'Plan to enroll' clarification

[mariposas905]

I would like some clarification about the plan to enroll deadline on April 30th. AAMC recommends that applicants let go of all but one acceptance by this date (Protocol 9). However, after calling them today, the representative explained this differently. She said nothing is binding until the school-specific commit to enroll deadline, and that April 30th is just the day the "commit" option becomes available. She said we can only "plan to enroll" at one school, but that we do not have to drop the other acceptances until the commit to enroll deadline.

Also, under the plan to enroll option, it says the following:

"I have preliminarily selected this medical school as the one I plan to attend in accordance with Protocol 9 of the Application and Acceptance Protocols for Applicants. Medical schools can only see aggregate information until April 30th and will not know which applicants have selected "Plan to Enroll" at their school or at other schools. Beginning April 30th, medical schools can see which of their accepted applicants have selected "Plan to Enroll" at their institution. I understand that I can continue to interview, hold my current acceptance offers and receive additional acceptance offers, and remain on any waitlist at any other medical schools to which I applied."

Does this mean that we can still hold onto more than one acceptance after April 30th? So for example, if an applicant is accepted to two schools, could they submit 'plan to enroll' at one school and continue holding the other school acceptance? This is what I gathered from the AAMC representative and the message above. However, Protocol 9 seems to contradict this information.

I would really appreciate if someone could explain this to me. @gonnif would love your input as well. Thank you!

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[Incursio]

Do you think that if the schools where you are waitlisted at see that you are "planning to enroll" at school A will be less likelier to offer you an acceptance because they think you will attend school A?

 

[GoldenGal12]

So essentially, on 4/30 we must select PTE for a school, but can continue to hold onto our other acceptances in the case that we are not entirely sure our final decision yet?

 

[meronebib]

Do you think that if the schools where you are waitlisted at see that you are "planning to enroll" at school A will be less likelier to offer you an acceptance because they think you will attend school A?

No. It's in the rules that we must select PTE by April 30th. Schools know this and won't hold you accountable for following the rules. It's not worth it to play games here.

So essentially, on 4/30 we must select PTE for a school, but can continue to hold onto our other acceptances in the case that we are not entirely sure our final decision yet?

No, you must withdraw all your acceptances by April 30th except for one, which is your PTE school. You can stay on waitlists until you select CTE.

 

[965978]

You can only hold 1 acceptance on April 30 along with your waitlist. Any acceptance that you have on April 30th without noting PTE, can be rescinded without notice. I warn all students not to screw around with this date, especially this year. Schools are worried about making sure all seats are filled and are much more likely to drop/rescind acceptances this year and move on to waitlist than they have in the past

And I’m pretty sure AMCAS has an electronic procedure to single out people holding multiple acceptances after 4/30 and then warning the schools

 

[mariposas905]

https://www.aamc.org/download/492394/data/chooseyourmedicalschool_sept25.pdf
(emphasis added)
Beginning April 30, accepted applicants will have two options to select: “Plan to Enroll” and “Commit to Enroll.” Selecting “Commit to Enroll” indicates that the applicant has made a final selection and withdrawn all other applications.• Starting April 30, the AMCAS tool will identify the applicants making either selection. This applicant-specific information will be visible only to schools where the applicant has a current acceptance or alternate-list position.• The AMCAS tool will not identify the names of the other schools where an applicant has a current acceptance or alternate-list position.• Selecting “Commit to Enroll” does not automatically withdraw applications from other medical schools. Applicants must communicate directly with all schools about their final decision according to each school’s specific policy.

View attachment 260367

Could you share the link where you found this report and release date table?

 

[mariposas905]

Uhhhh it was the link in the original posting, along with the attached document...

I didn't see the table in that link though the one where it talks about the type of report med schools receive and the release date....The only table in found in the posted link is regarding the timeline of what applicants/med schools can do and when.

 

[mariposas905]

See my post below

'Plan to enroll' clarification

Yes, that is the post I'm looking at and this is the link I see: https://www.aamc.org/download/492394/data/chooseyourmedicalschool_sept25.pdf

However, when I click on it, I can't seem to find the table in your post (I attached it again here - it's the report and release date table). I couldn't find another link in the post, but please lmk in case I'm looking at it wrong!

 

[mariposas905]

attachment

Thank you for providing this link!

 

[Gilakend]

If you are on no waitlists is there any downside to selecting CTE today?

 

[candbgirl]

If you are on no waitlists is there any downside to selecting CTE today?

Are you waiting to hear from any schools that you interviewed at? If so , would you go to them over the school you are currently accepted at?

 

[Gilakend]

Are you waiting to hear from any schools that you interviewed at? If so , would you go to them over the school you are currently accepted at?

Nope, heard back from all the schools I interviewed at and withdrew all acceptances except one. Never on any waitlists.

 

[teenyfish]

Are you guys seeing the "Commit to enroll" option? I only have plan to enroll.

 

[southpaw3]

Are you guys seeing the "Commit to enroll" option? I only have plan to enroll.

Same! Perhaps it isn't online yet?

 

[ThrowawayShmoaway]

Are you guys seeing the "Commit to enroll" option? I only have plan to enroll.

Same! Perhaps it isn't online yet?

It was available on my end and I was able to select it

 

[teenyfish]

Oh gosh I'm a fool. I didn't click "Edit selection".

 

[GoldenGal12]

I just received another acceptance today; therefore, that means that I do not have to select PTE or CTE for 14 days correct?

 

[bree95]

I just received another acceptance today; therefore, that means that I do not have to select PTE or CTE for 14 days correct?

You should check with either school to make sure what their rules are.

 

[southpaw3]

Oh gosh I'm a fool. I didn't click "Edit selection".

Ha, I didn’t either. Whoops!

 

[aj2234]

.

 

[hopefulpremed10]

Hi everyone!

What happens if you get off the waitlist for School B after May 1st, but already put "plan to enroll" to School A on AMCAS? I just got off a waitlist at School B, but I am waiting on scholarship information from both schools. Is the deadline now up to the discretion of both schools or do I have to decide immediately? Don't wait to get any acceptances rescinded. :/

Thanks!!

 

[IsleyOfTheNorth]

Are you guys seeing the "Commit to enroll" option? I only have plan to enroll.

Commit to Enroll won't be available for a while yet if I remember my AAMC emails correctly. Only Plan to Enroll becomes available today.

 

[deleted972488]

Commit to Enroll won't be available for a while yet if I remember my AAMC emails correctly. Only Plan to Enroll becomes available today.

CTE opens 4/30

 

[IsleyOfTheNorth]

 

[himalayansaltlamp]

Is the tool up yet? I don't see it!

 

[KnightDoc]

CTE opens 4/30

Yeah, keep in mind this a zombie thread -- all posts earlier than the ones @gonnif made earlier today are from last year!! 🙂

 

[IsleyOfTheNorth]

Is the tool up yet? I don't see it!

It's up, yes. Try logging out of AAMC and logging back in.

 

[deleted972488]

Yeah, keep in mind this a zombie thread -- all posts earlier than the ones @gonnif made earlier today are from last year!! 🙂

@gonnif Why did you necrobump?

 

[himalayansaltlamp]

If you have two acceptances, can you change which one of the two you PTE, or can you only change for a new acceptance?

 

[deleted972488]

If you have two acceptances, can you change which one of the two you PTE, or can you only change for a new acceptance?

Yes, until 4/30 you can change your selection to any other acceptance.

 

[KnightDoc]

Yes, until 4/30 you can change your selection to any other acceptance.

Since I don't have access to the tool, hopefully you can answer a question I've been wondering about -- I have been assuming that each school functions independently in the tool, and you could theoretically PTE to more than one school at the same time prior to 4/30. Is this true, or can you only make one selection at a time?

 

[deleted972488]

Since I don't have access to the tool, hopefully you can answer a question I've been wondering about -- I have been assuming that each school functions independently in the tool, and you could theoretically PTE to more than one school at the same time prior to 4/30. Is this true, or can you only make one selection at a time?

You can only make one selection at a time!

 

[chimken]

If you have two acceptances but you are not sure yet, shoupd you not Select pte until april 30th or select one and potentially change it later

 

[AnonymousDoctorGuyPerson]

To tack on to the question about multiple acceptances and choosing one to PTE, does selecting a school for PTE affect financial aid options at all? I figure no, but...

This is what I'd like to know as well, in terms of receiving scholarships from one school in order to entice you over choosing another.

 

[KnightDoc]

If you have two acceptances but you are not sure yet, shoupd you not Select pte until april 30th or select one and potentially change it later

I honestly don't think it matters. Schools like it because it supposedly gives an indication of what their yield is going to look like, but since it is non-binding I personally don't think it has a lot of value. The school that you choose sees it; the others stay in the dark until 5/1. So, I guess if it were me I'd feel free to show my favorite school some love since it really costs you nothing and you can change your mind as many times as like between now and 4/30.

 

[KnightDoc]

To tack on to the question about multiple acceptances and choosing one to PTE, does selecting a school for PTE affect financial aid options at all? I figure no, but...

I also would figure no, but it might make sense to play a little hard to get. Think about it like this -- assuming they take it into consideration at all (which I really doubt), does telling them you're "planning to enroll" without seeing financial aid make them more or less likely to be generous with you? I think they'd be more likely to use it to lure someone rather than throwing it at someone they already have. Just my 2 cents!

 

[deleted972488]

I honestly don't think it matters. Schools like it because it supposedly gives an indication of what their yield is going to look like, but since it is non-binding I personally don't think it has a lot of value. The school that you choose sees it; the others stay in the dark until 5/1. So, I guess if it were me I'd feel free to show my favorite school some love since it really costs you nothing and you can change your mind as many times as like between now and 4/30.

Prior to April 30, schools cannot see which applicants plan to enroll, just how many.

 

[KnightDoc]

Prior to April 30, schools cannot see which applicants plan to enroll, just how many.

Yes -- I didn't realize that they can't even see that a particular applicant has chosen PTE at their school, let alone another school. They only see aggregate data. Even more reason not to use it (unless, of course, you are totally done, in which case there is absolutely no reason to risk missing a deadline, even if it's 10 weeks away 😉, since they can't even see you are showing them any love!! 🙂

 

[deleted972488]

Yes -- I didn't realize that they can't even see that a particular applicant has chosen PTE at their school, let alone another school. They only see aggregate data. Even more reason not to use it (unless, of course, you are totally done, in which case there is absolutely no reason to risk missing a deadline, even if it's 10 weeks away 😉, since they can't even see you are showing them any love!! 🙂

In theory, if everyone (or, at least, enough people) used the tool, schools would have a good idea of their yield and could start accepting applicants off the waitlist.

 

[gyngyn]

In theory, if everyone (or, at least, enough people) used the tool, schools would have a good idea of their yield and could start accepting applicants off the waitlist.

Sadly, PTE has been of little use in this regard.

 

[KnightDoc]

In theory, if everyone (or, at least, enough people) used the tool, schools would have a good idea of their yield and could start accepting applicants off the waitlist.

Not really, because it's not binding before 4/30, so no school would dare pull people off WLs based on a non-binding aggregate PTE number. On the other hand, if people withdrew from As as soon as they knew they weren't attending, THAT would provoke early WL movement (and, to the extent it happens, it does!).

 

[Goro]

Sadly, PTE has been of little use in this regard.

Can you elaborate, wise @gyngyn?

 

[gyngyn]

Can you elaborate, wise @gyngyn?

If a school interviews applicants likely to get multiple interviews, they are also likely to get multiple waitlists. A PTE just means that you are their favorite at that moment.

 

[cupcake81]

Hi guys,
Are applicants required to use the PTE tool? I have not selected a school yet, because I am unsure and currently waiting to hear back from my top choice. Will I get in any kind of trouble for not selecting a school?

 

[deleted972488]

Hi guys,
Are applicants required to use the PTE tool? I have not selected a school yet, because I am unsure and currently waiting to hear back from my top choice. Will I get in any kind of trouble for not selecting a school?

You must do it by 4/30. If you don’t, your acceptance will be rescinded. Until then, you do not have to make a selection.

 

[catkitten2]

Can someone confirm that my understanding is correct?

On April 15 you have to narrow down to 3 schools and on April 30 you have to narrow to 1 school INCLUDING withdrawing from all waitlists. So that means all the people who remove 2 schools on April 30 will open up quite a few seats. But at that point the only people still on waitlists who can fill the newly opened seats are people with no other acceptance. People who hold an acceptance to anywhere prior to April 30 will not benefit from any waitlist movement post the CTE deadline.

 

[deleted972488]

Can someone confirm that my understanding is correct?

On April 15 you have to narrow down to 3 schools and on April 30 you have to narrow to 1 school INCLUDING withdrawing from all waitlists. So that means all the people who remove 2 schools on April 30 will open up quite a few seats. But at that point the only people still on waitlists who can fill the newly opened seats are people with no other acceptance. People who hold an acceptance to anywhere prior to April 30 will not benefit from any waitlist movement post the CTE deadline.

No. You do not have to withdraw from WLs until your PTE school’s CTE deadline.

PTE = withdraw from other acceptances
CTE = withdraw from waitlists

 

[KnightDoc]

Can someone confirm that my understanding is correct?

On April 15 you have to narrow down to 3 schools and on April 30 you have to narrow to 1 school INCLUDING withdrawing from all waitlists. So that means all the people who remove 2 schools on April 30 will open up quite a few seats. But at that point the only people still on waitlists who can fill the newly opened seats are people with no other acceptance. People who hold an acceptance to anywhere prior to April 30 will not benefit from any waitlist movement post the CTE deadline.

Your understanding is only partially correct. Schools want you to narrow to 3 schools by 4/15, but there is no mechanism to enforce that, so it's totally up to you. On 4/30, pretty much all schools require either PTE or CTE, and both require that you reduce to one A at that point. PTE allows you to stay on WLs until the CTE date. CTE requires you to withdraw from WLs. Most schools do not have a 4/30 CTE date, so most people WILL benefit from 4/30 WL movement.

 

[catkitten2]

Your understanding is only partially correct. Schools want you to narrow to 3 schools by 4/15, but there is no mechanism to enforce that, so it's totally up to you. On 4/30, pretty much all schools require either PTE or CTE, and both require that you reduce to one A at that point. PTE allows you to stay on WLs until the CTE date. CTE requires you to withdraw from WLs. Most schools do not have a 4/30 CTE date, so most people WILL benefit from 4/30 WL movement.

Thank you both for the clarification, I really appreciate it!

 

[KnightDoc]

Thank you both for the clarification, I really appreciate it!

You are also correct about what generates all the post 4/30 WL movement. It's caused by people being forced to reduce to 1, but keep in mind that a number of people are holding more than 3 before that date! 🙂 Of course, some people don't wait until the last minute. That's why you'll see some WL movement even now, and continuing until the end of the cycle.