plastic surgeon pay

[Profchaos]

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So I've been watching MTV for a bit, and I saw the plastic surgeons who gave pretty damn good boob jobs. I wonder how much do they averagely make despite the fact there's potential competition. Do they make more than us being dentist?
I hope not.

 

[Rezdawg]

Do they make more than us being dentist?
I hope not.

No question. They bank.

There will definitely be exceptions here and there, but, all in all, a plastic surgeon will make more.

 

[Tzips]

No question. They bank.

There will definitely be exceptions here and there, but, all in all, a plastic surgeon will make more.

Yup. Just like dentists who specialise in cosmetic dentistry will usually bring in more than your poor overworked neighborhood GP... Fact is, if you focus on vanities you're pretty much ensuring that your clientele in wealthy, which means that they can pay, and pay well. Face it - if salary was in proportion to importance in society, why would prefessional atheletes easily pull in 100 times what teachers earn? Life's just seriously twisted.

 

[Profchaos]

Yup. Just like dentists who specialise in cosmetic dentistry will usually bring in more than your poor overworked neighborhood GP... Fact is, if you focus on vanities you're pretty much ensuring that your clientele in wealthy, which means that they can pay, and pay well. Face it - if salary was in proportion to importance in society, why would prefessional atheletes easily pull in 100 times what teachers earn? Life's just seriously twisted.

Surgeon - Plastic Reconstructive 25th%ile Median 75th%ile
the United States $220,948 $274,796 $341,820
and

Orthodontist 25th%ile Median 75th%ile
the United States $89,715 $109,203 $132,410

The ortho pay must be at some hospital, but under same condition Plastic surgeon is making almost 3 times more. Does that mean if a practicing orthodontist makes 300k, then a plastic surgeon pulls out 900k. Damn good money.

 

[anima dannata]

...Fact is, if you focus on vanities you're pretty much ensuring that your clientele in wealthy, which means that they can pay, and pay well. Face it - if salary was in proportion to importance in society, why would prefessional atheletes easily pull in 100 times what teachers earn? Life's just seriously twisted.

I think human beings are twisted, not life...how can someone justify spending so much money on looking good...when they could prob feed a town in a third world country for a whole month with the money...I don't know maybe I would have a different perspective if I came from a really wealthy family. As for professional atheletes and movie stars..lots of them do good with their money and the people are the ones supporting their careers...we are willing to pay $10 to watch a movie and hundreds of dollars to watch sport games...hey we don't even need to watch real actors, we are satisfied with watching so called regular people acting like idiots on television...what is this world coming to?!?

 

[Tzips]

then a plastic surgeon pulls out 900k.

Sounds about right, considered to whom they are catering. I wouldn't be surprised if many pull in well over a million.

 

[organichemistry]

Sounds about right, considered to whom they are catering. I wouldn't be surprised if many pull in well over a million.

top end plastic surgeons in southern california (hollywood, beverly hills, santa monica, etc) are going to make a lot more than plastic surgeons in fargo, north dakota, or birmingham, alabama, or even dallas, texas or detroit, michigan.

in reality, although there are some plastic surgeons making well over a million bringing that average way up, the median is probably somewhere in the high 200s.

 

[eran76]

Yup. Just like dentists who specialise in cosmetic dentistry will usually bring in more than your poor overworked neighborhood GP... Fact is, if you focus on vanities you're pretty much ensuring that your clientele in wealthy, which means that they can pay, and pay well. Face it - if salary was in proportion to importance in society, why would prefessional atheletes easily pull in 100 times what teachers earn? Life's just seriously twisted.

The reason professional athletes make so much more than teachers is not because society it twisted, it’s because being a really good professional athlete is not only hard, but uncommon (i.e. scarce). Whereas, being a teacher, while not easy, is an extremely easy profession to get into. After all, what are all the history/philosophy/sociology/communication/polysci/english majors going to do when they graduate?? After a few years of bumming around East Asia or the former soviet block teaching english, they'll end up at a school baby-sitting teenagers.

Really, it’s a simple supply and demand question: there are a lot more people qualified to teach than there are people qualified to play professional sports, therefore, the cost of replacing a teacher is practically zero. Hence, teachers barely make enough to survive on. If you want to change than, reduce the number of college graduates with useless degrees.

 

[ncalcate]

While plastic surgeons make lots of money, keep in mind that the competition to land a plastics residency is fierce. You have to be top 10% of your class at med school, have top 10% board scores on the USMLE, great recs, research, etc.

Also, you have to do a five-year residency, of which a significant portion is a general surgery residency. That is where 80 to 90 hour weeks are the norm. And then you usually have to do a 1 to 2 year fellowship on top of that.

So yeah, plastic surgeons make a lot of dough, but that is after 6-7 years of training after med school, with little pay and crazy hours.

 

[beastly115]

Ever see Dr. Rey from Dr. 90210? He drives a Porsche 911 Turbo ($130k) and was about to buy a house worth around $2 million I think it was. You want to see how much plastic surgeons in Beverly Hills make, watch that show, it's insane. He does work incredibly long hours though. I remember him saying that he almost never sees his daughter or spends quality time with his family.

 

[ItsGavinC]

Ever see Dr. Rey from Dr. 90210? He drives a Porsche 911 Turbo ($130k) and was about to buy a house worth around $2 million I think it was. You want to see how much plastic surgeons in Beverly Hills make, watch that show, it's insane. He does work incredibly long hours though. I remember him saying that he almost never sees his daughter or spends quality time with his family.

Certainly, a great judge of income is to base it off a television show (reality or not).

Nobody wants to see the reality show about a plastic surgeon who has gone broke due to drugs and rides a bike everywhere. Wait, I'd watch that.

 

[drat]

Ever see Dr. Rey from Dr. 90210? He drives a Porsche 911 Turbo ($130k) and was about to buy a house worth around $2 million I think it was. You want to see how much plastic surgeons in Beverly Hills make, watch that show, it's insane. He does work incredibly long hours though. I remember him saying that he almost never sees his daughter or spends quality time with his family.

Dr. Rey makes me vomit daily. That man's priorities are messed up -- routinely telling women to get breasts bigger than they want because "their cleavage is [his] reputation." 😱 But yeah, I still watch the show because it is interesting.

 

[Tzips]

The reason professional athletes make so much more than teachers is not because society it twisted, it’s because being a really good professional athlete is not only hard, but uncommon (i.e. scarce). Whereas, being a teacher, while not easy, is an extremely easy profession to get into. After all, what are all the history/philosophy/sociology/communication/polysci/english majors going to do when they graduate?? After a few years of bumming around East Asia or the former soviet block teaching english, they'll end up at a school baby-sitting teenagers.

Really, it’s a simple supply and demand question: there are a lot more people qualified to teach than there are people qualified to play professional sports, therefore, the cost of replacing a teacher is practically zero. Hence, teachers barely make enough to survive on. If you want to change than, reduce the number of college graduates with useless degrees.

Yes, in a large part it is because of supply and demand, yet the fact remains that most fans will be far more willing to spend money on entertainment, be it sports or movies, than on their child's education - 'cause education shoud be free, right? 🙄 Our mixed-up values - what we are willing to spend money on - greatly influences the relative salaries. Because, by your reasoning, there should be such competition among teachers that only the best ones can get the jobs, but that is clearly not the case; in fact, there is a deficit in the number of would-be teachers, partially because the wages are so poor. It seems to me that an analagous situation exists among nurses as well.

 

[Tzips]

Have you seen toofache's avatar? Dis-gusting.

I quite agree with you there... maybe he thinks all females should avail themselves of plastic surgery? 🙄

 

[eran76]

Yes, in a large part it is because of supply and demand, yet the fact remains that most fans will be far more willing to spend money on entertainment, be it sports or movies, than on their child's education - 'cause education shoud be free, right? 🙄 Our mixed-up values - what we are willing to spend money on - greatly influences the relative salaries. Because, by your reasoning, there should be such competition among teachers that only the best ones can get the jobs, but that is clearly not the case; in fact, there is a deficit in the number of would-be teachers, partially because the wages are so poor. It seems to me that an analagous situation exists among nurses as well.

You make a good point about the relative value people place on things such as education vs. entertainment. I would counter however that a great number of people who can afford it, send their kids to private schools which appears to be a demonstration of the value of education. Also, many parents these days are still trying to pay through school themselves (i.e. D-students) let alone be worried about the local public school. People don't want to support public schools b/c the funding system is based on property value. Rich people with better homes and fewer (if no) kids are less willing to contribute to schools their kids don't use. The poorest in our society, who incidentally seem to be breeding at a high rate, tend to live in less expensive housing and consequently pay lower property tax (if any for renters) towards their children’s education.

Now, as for teachers, the merit vs. seniority system is currently under attack by the Governator in California. In that state, teachers are screaming about funding cuts and changes in the system. A merit system would eventually just degenerate down to teachers teaching to the assessment tests b/c those tests will determine who gets the pay raises. Is that better education for our kids? Are older teachers bad? Clearly not. Good teachers don’t go into the field b/c of the low wages, you are correct about that. But one of the reasons that wages are so low is that for every good teacher who is discouraged by low pay there are ten mediocre teachers who will take the job. There are simply too many college graduates who can teach, so the competition between them drives down the wages.

Nurses, meanwhile, are in exceedingly short supply b/c too few are being trained. In my state, there is a 30,000 nurse shortage, but UW graduates something like 90 nurses a year. That’s a ridiculous situation where the market is demanding and paying a high rate but the number of qualified workers is low (again supply and demand). Now I’m the son of a nurse, and a nurse’s aide myself, so I feel pretty close to the subject. Nurses get **** on by doctors (and patients🙂 on a daily basis, are paid poorly for the conditions and hours they work, and indeed some people (mostly women) are discouraged from the profession. What this ignores is the historical and demographic consequence of the women’s liberation movement. From the late 60s on nursing was seen as a second rate job for women and so fewer entered. Today the average age of a nurse is 47, the same age as my mum. There is a massive post-baby-boom gap behind her generation that is only going to widen as nurses retire. Solution: 1) increase nursing school enrollment, 2) reduce med school course load so med students can return to being orderlies and help take the strain off nurses while simultaneously getting some actual patient contact so they don’t **** on the nurses quite as bad later.