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What is the magic number to get into pod school? Anyone who got in....would you mind sharing your score?
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depends on your GPA and when you apply...
i know someone that had around a 3.5-6 and got a half scholarship to scholl and they asked this person to get a "16" on the MCAT....
mid 20s and you'll have your choice of schools with scholarships...
I don't know much about the MCAT and I have never taken it, but I thought 23 was a fairly low score, no? I am just curious why MCAT scores can be this low... podiatry is still medicine, afterall... and the schools that accept the DAT still, what score do they expect? Average for dental now is between 19-20. I'm just trying to understand the discrepancies out of curiosity and for no better reason.
So if I have a 3.5 GPA and got a 24 on the MCAT do I stand a chance of getting in?
So if I have a 3.5 GPA and got a 24 on the MCAT do I stand a chance of getting in?
It varies depending upon school. Some have very high competition while others accept anyone who applies.
No brah, he/she will get in anywhere with that, even DMU and AZPOD. As long as they are not an interview spaz, they are golden.
honestly pod schools is MUCH MUCH harder then I anticipated.... either way a 3.2-3.3 and 21-24 on the mcat should be enough to get you in. From what I hear it is getting more and more "competitive" lately.... i'd try to get in asap.
P.S. whoever is saying that competitive and podiatry school is an oxymoron etc... ask the many kids who now are not getting accepted/having a MUCH harder time to get in. There are a lot more now than the past 2-3 years...
Scholl, DMU, and AZPOD are definitely more stringent on acceptance than the other schools. Ohio, NYCPM, and Temple are pretty easy to get in. Barry and CSPM, a pulse.
i heard OCPM has bcom very selective who its takes in. Is this true? (to all who applied at OCPM in this admission cycle)
But then again, I know of someone who got a high gpa with low mcat got accepted to OCPM with schalorship and didnt get an interview at Scholls.
I heard of a few people who got put on the 5 year program even before school started. lol
Put in a 5 year program before starting? I didn't even know they did that. I imagine you would have to have both a very low gpa and mcat not just one or the other. Conditional acceptances are a weird thing and can be good and bad. For instance I have a strong gpa and resume and when applying to schools I was yet to take the MCAT. However, the main school I wanted to go to offered me a provisional acceptance as long as I took the MCAT (no minimum cutoff score needed) and then I was formally accepted with scholarship a few days after I actually took it. Anyways what I'm trying to say is I basically quit studying when I found out about the provisional acceptance and focused on other things instead. But you can see how this could contribute to the lower average acceptance score for school so and so.
It's a bit ridiculous to say that "conditional acceptance" is dumb. It may be dumb for you based on your circumstances. However it can prove extremely helpful by providing a year earlier entry, which will possibly enable them to work a year longer as a podiatrist in the future and avoid sitting stationary for another year, for a mere 500.00
I am one of those students and a conditional acceptance based on a known cutoff score is simply be betting on myself where I stand a good chance to win.
So I view the opportunity for conditional acceptance a very positive function as it enables some students in unique circumstances and perhaps enables schools to fill seats with those otherwise uniquely qualified students.
Conditional acceptances may be a good thing for some people, but I think that they bring the overall stats down for podiatry students. So many people say that anyone can get into a podiatry school, the stats are low, etc. Offering conditional acceptances to people who have not yet taken the MCAT sets a low standard from the beginning. If an admissions committee tells you that you only need to get a certain (extremely low) score on the MCAT, then that is what people tend to aim for. Why should you spend all this time studying your tail off, if you only have to get a 20? If we want to be seen at the same level as MDs and DOs, then we should have similar admissions standards. Many MD and DO schools won't even look at your application until they have an MCAT score, regardless of how impressive you seem without it. I think that most podiatry students out there have the capacity to score well on the MCAT (evidenced by the curriculum that is faced in school). But the knowledge that you can get in with a low score perpetuates the cyle of low admission statistics.
It's a bit ridiculous to say that "conditional acceptance" is dumb. It may be dumb for you based on your circumstances. However it can prove extremely helpful by providing a year earlier entry, which will possibly enable them to work a year longer as a podiatrist in the future and avoid sitting stationary for another year, for a mere 500.00
I am one of those students and a conditional acceptance based on a known cutoff score is simply be betting on myself where I stand a good chance to win.
So I view the opportunity for conditional acceptance a very positive function as it enables some students in unique circumstances and perhaps enables schools to fill seats with those otherwise uniquely qualified students.
Conditional acceptances may be a good thing for some people, but I think that they bring the overall stats down for podiatry students. So many people say that anyone can get into a podiatry school, the stats are low, etc. Offering conditional acceptances to people who have not yet taken the MCAT sets a low standard from the beginning. If an admissions committee tells you that you only need to get a certain (extremely low) score on the MCAT, then that is what people tend to aim for. Why should you spend all this time studying your tail off, if you only have to get a 20? If we want to be seen at the same level as MDs and DOs, then we should have similar admissions standards. Many MD and DO schools won't even look at your application until they have an MCAT score, regardless of how impressive you seem without it. I think that most podiatry students out there have the capacity to score well on the MCAT (evidenced by the curriculum that is faced in school). But the knowledge that you can get in with a low score perpetuates the cyle of low admission statistics.
I think if they take away those conditional acceptances we can gain more respect (look at MD schools). This is one of the reasons why pod school has such low stats (as mentioned above).
Conditional acceptances may be a good thing for some people, but I think that they bring the overall stats down for podiatry students. So many people say that anyone can get into a podiatry school, the stats are low, etc. Offering conditional acceptances to people who have not yet taken the MCAT sets a low standard from the beginning. If an admissions committee tells you that you only need to get a certain (extremely low) score on the MCAT, then that is what people tend to aim for. Why should you spend all this time studying your tail off, if you only have to get a 20? If we want to be seen at the same level as MDs and DOs, then we should have similar admissions standards. Many MD and DO schools won't even look at your application until they have an MCAT score, regardless of how impressive you seem without it. I think that most podiatry students out there have the capacity to score well on the MCAT (evidenced by the curriculum that is faced in school). But the knowledge that you can get in with a low score perpetuates the cyle of low admission statistics.
So if I have a 3.5 GPA and got a 24 on the MCAT do I stand a chance of getting in?
One way i think is that we raise our admission bar high and dont care how many students we take. be it just 20 (for a class of 100) and then make those 20 students pay the fees that would equal what 100 people would pay. in that way, schools will be able to afford everything and we can get a class that is top notch. its a win win situation. the only thing is that then our annual tution will be way higher and we have to graduate with student loans in millions.
One way i think is that we raise our admission bar high and dont care how many students we take. be it just 20 (for a class of 100) and then make those 20 students pay the fees that would equal what 100 people would pay. in that way, schools will be able to afford everything and we can get a class that is top notch. its a win win situation. the only thing is that then our annual tution will be way higher and we have to graduate with student loans in millions.
How would taking out conditional acceptances help us gain more respect? Conditional acceptancs dont even make up 30% of regular admission cycle (i did found out this from someone). the average regular applicants are having low mcats, low gpas,etc. what abt them?
The main issue is schools should increase the general admission stats like high GPA, high MCATs,etc etc. but i doubt this would be happening suddenly. We still lack applicants and without good number of applicants there isnt healthy competition & shortage of seats. Things are definetly improving every year.
I think this issue is related to APMA, AACPM and APMSA more than individual schools. if these organizations adverstise aggresively, increase public awareness,do recruitment in colleges,etc. Our numbers can increase which inturn will increase our competion and applicant stats.
But as long as applicant numbers are itself down, it wont make a big difference if school raises the bar to GPA 3.5 or MCAT 28. We need huge applicant pool so that schools can be picky
U r being sarcastic right?
Are you sure that conditional acceptances make up only 30%??
Do you think those people are going to study their butts off for the MCAT?
Like you said, higher score = more respect, am I right?
So you dont think conditional acceptances lead to people with lower scores? What about those people with 3.5-3.8 GPAs and only need a 16 or 17 to get in?
yes atleast at two toptier schools where i found out from seniors.
Yes you are absolutely right and i agree with you that higher score = more respect.
But think abt this, If its a good student he/she will study hard and get a decent score. i mean common why would a 3.9 gpa guy be contented with 18 MCAT. he will definetly try for 24-25. i know some people in scholl who were asked MCAT score in low 20s but they scored in 25s. I think this issue is more on applicant than school people.
I know some people are lazy and they will lose motivation. Its a grey area i guess. I personally think if there's a good student, he will study hard no matter what cutoff he has been given.
Plus schools dont willingly give low cutoffs. they see the average class stats and then give the students the average score required. if our overall appliant pool (conditional + regular applicants) itself becomes competitive then iam sure the cutoff scores will be in high 25s or low 30s.
No! why does it look sarcastic . iam dead serious. if we really want serious changes than brother we all have to seriously think abt this problem. we cannot just ask schools to raise their admission criteria without resolving the problem of their finances if by chance they run low on students.
If applicant numbers are not changing then perhaps we can change our fees and compensate school in that way if they suffer in applicant numbers bcoz of the raised admission criteria. And we really have to do something abt this whole situation. because due to the low admission stats our field is also becoming a backup option for many rejected MD/DO/Dent applicants. which is very unhealthy and hurting our image. People should join podiatry becuase they love it and not because they got rejected from everywhere else (believe me, when you will join pod school and start speaking to fellow students.you will be suprised by the numbers).
I do, however, agree with the fact that our applicant pool is low and needs some work. Podiatry as a doctoral degree and a profession really needs to come in the public eye more often. I am confident that Vision 2015 and other APMA marketing strategies will create a larger applicant pool in the future. A larger applicant pool will warrant the competitiveness of podiatry; not the millions of loan debt. In addition, there is already a trend of more students applying for podiatry.
Like I said, we need to get podiatry out there in the public. I want to hear high schoolers saying to each other "hey man I wanna go in to podiatry!" or "have you heard about podiatry this looks sweet?!". Spread the word. It is OUR JOB! We can do this guys. Then with graduating podiatrists out there in the real world doing surgeries and showing everyone what pods can do everyone around them will have no choice but to be impressed. Don't worry about admission standards or what not, that'll take care of itself. Start small, grow big, spread the word, prove ourselves, and earn the respect.
Are you sure that conditional acceptances make up only 30%??
When I talked to the people at Ohio, I know atleast half of the applicants there were conditionally accepted, if not more.
Other schools might be different.
So you dont think conditional acceptances lead to people with lower scores? What about those people with 3.5-3.8 GPAs and only need a 16 or 17 to get in?
Do you think those people are going to study their butts off for the MCAT?
Like you said, higher score = more respect, am I right?
Also note there are MANY MD or Pharm and other programs that allow students to enroll as an undergrad...and as long as they maintain a given threshold value of gpa/mcat they are automatically moved to the professional program.... this is also a tool to secure students they can deem successful.. i'm sure it's a stats game and they have a damn good curve of success relating a given gpa and a cut off mcat score
BUT, I said to myself that it's only podiatry school admissions and I need to get this thing in ASAP if I want to enroll for Fall 08. So can you see how people with my type of attitude can bring the MCAT scores down?