Post PGY2 Benefits?

[UofK]

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I am really curious to know the benefits residents are getting after completing a PGY2, specifically vacation time. Anyone getting > or equal to 4 weeks? Or is 2-3 weeks the norm starting out?

Any other benefits worth mentioning feel free to disclose if willing.

 

[gwarm01]

I had 4 weeks as hybrid clinical with no residency starting in 2013. Benefits are rarely tied to your credentials in my experience.

 

[njac]

I make a couple dollars more per hour than non specialist pharmacists hired the same time as myself, but we started with the same benefits package.


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[Dr Wario]

When you are talking vacation, are you saying personal days off (which would include holidays, sick etc)? I think hospitals are really sneaky for making it look like they are giving so much more vacation than retail (thus justifying the drastic reduction in salary) but in reality the difference is not so great.

 

[TheBlaah]

When you are talking vacation, are you saying personal days off (which would include holidays, sick etc)? I think hospitals are really sneaky for making it look like they are giving so much more vacation than retail (thus justifying the drastic reduction in salary) but in reality the difference is not so great.

I don't think that's true at all. Every retail pharmacist I know (recent graduates) has about 2 weeks PTO, some of whom can only schedule to schedule it once a year. I myself received an offer some time ago with 1.5 weeks for the first year, basically.

Every hospital position I've received an offer from (basically a new grad as well) had at least 4 weeks PTO+several sick days. Granted, retail gets holidays. But that only really matters if the holiday happens to land on your "day", or you split them evenly with your coworkers. I also prefer to have the choice of when to use them rather than be forced to use them on a holiday.

Maybe they eventually converge together (though I doubt it as a lot of hospitals near me max out around 6-7 weeks PTO), but for starting out, hospitals definitely have the advantage in terms of PTO.

 

[BidingMyTime]

Every hospital I've seen gives far more vacation time retail. Even with the vacation days added in to ET/PTO, it only 6 more extra holidays with retail, and hospital ET/PTO is quite more than that.

 

[BenJammin]

The greatest benefits of having a PGY2 is that you get to work under pharmacists like me who didn't need to spend two years at a hospital at half pay to prove that they learned something in school.

 

[gwarm01]

The greatest benefits of having a PGY2 is that you get to work under pharmacists like me who didn't need to spend two years at a hospital at half pay to prove that they learned something in school.

Damn, right to the core.

I feel sorry for those who thought doing a residency meant they'd be guaranteed a specialty clinical position, but they accepted a central staffing job. Then as I listen to them complain about their work duties, the hours, and how people with fewer credentials but more experience are allowed to round with doctors (I believe the common line was "that's bull****! He doesn't even have a residency!), all I could wonder is why did you accept this job and why aren't you going out there to find what you really want?

So many new grads complaining about working evenings and asking when they can switch to day shift. You applied to and accepted the 1430-2300 shift. Why are you surprised that you are expected to work those hours?

I have to admit that I was one of those dumb people too. Now that I am on a day schedule I actually miss working late. Sleep in every day, never any traffic, decent shift differential. It was nice.

 

[PumpkinSmasher]

Benefits are no different for residency or no residency pharm at our system.

I am in amb care and in my experience, vacation is much more in hospital and amb care and at least for me much more flexible about time off.
We start at 4 weeks vacation, I will be up to 5 weeks in a few years. Also 12 sick days that accrue without maximum and 10 paid holidays. I have seen hospitals with similar pto but never in retail

 

[BenJammin]

Benefits are no different for residency or no residency pharm at our system.

I am in amb care and in my experience, vacation is much more in hospital and amb care and at least for me much more flexible about time off.
We start at 4 weeks vacation, I will be up to 5 weeks in a few years. Also 12 sick days that accrue without maximum and 10 paid holidays. I have seen hospitals with similar pto but never in retail

Don't tell the retail guys that, a lot of them get 4 weeks after 10 years of service lol

 

[Dr Wario]

Don't tell the retail guys that, a lot of them get 4 weeks after 10 years of service lol

Considering the fact that us retail guys make 100k more the first year out of school (no residency) we are already about 35 weeks of vacation ahead, you don't need to feel too bad for us 🙂

 

[297point1]

So many new grads complaining about working evenings and asking when they can switch to day shift. You applied to and accepted the 1430-2300 shift. Why are you surprised that you are expected to work those hours?

For the same reason why so many people marry the wrong person: they expect to be able to change them!

Luckily for them, quitting a job is faster and cheaper than divorce. Both can still leave a lot of wreckage in their wake.

 

[Dred Pirate]

No hospital that I will grant you years of service for previous work when it comes to vacation benefits - let alone give you extra time because you have a residency. Believe me, I have been offered jobs at competitors and have asked - to no avail. Typical starting PDO around for hospitals is between 5-7 weeks initially, and maxing out at 7-8 weeks PDO per year.

 

[gwarm01]

No hospital that I will grant you years of service for previous work when it comes to vacation benefits - let alone give you extra time because you have a residency. Believe me, I have been offered jobs at competitors and have asked - to no avail. Typical starting PDO around for hospitals is between 5-7 weeks initially, and maxing out at 7-8 weeks PDO per year.

The old golden handcuffs. I've jumped around a couple times but I'm only a few years into my career. This current job has pretty good benefits so it'll be hard to walk away. It's going to be time to balance new job + higher pay against seniority and better benefits very soon.

 

[njac]

Also depends how easy it is to use the PTO.

Current job is decent - we put in up to 6 mos in advance, and as long as only 2 people are out at a time it's no big deal and usually gets approved. I've taken >200 hours of PTO this year and last.

But my per diem job they will only grant the time off if they can find someone to staff it. So as a per diem, I constantly have staff begging me to work so they can take some time off. I want to say "you do realize I've already worked40 hours this week before I even walked in your door" but I try to accommodate them when I can.

One PGY2 bonus: when I've interviewed for jobs they've paid for flights and hotel and transportation (either car service or rental car), which is a nice perk.


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