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[fakin' the funk]

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Info I got from the moderators....dude attempted to join the private forum 3 times already with different screenames (as of yest)....So to answer your question no. I think it helps to accomplish it's mission.

later

First of all, that comment wasn't directed toward you.

2nd of all, if Nitecap trolls the forum, WHO CARES?!?! Stop feeding the troll and he'll go away - and YOU'RE the one who feeds him.

 

[Induc(junc)tion]

I request an invite. Ive been around at least a month (haha), but Ive pmed many of you with my intentions.

 

[bullard]

Password is case-sensitive.

Don't worry, you're not missing anything.

Not sure what's to be discussed on the private forum that can't be discussed here.

But if it's nitecap-less then that's good enough for me. 😍

Password don't work for me. 😡

What am I doing wrong? 😕

 

[Noyac]

Done
Thanks
Sorry, so stupid. 😀

 

[SleepIsGood]

Password is case-sensitive.

Don't worry, you're not missing anything.

Not sure what's to be discussed on the private forum that can't be discussed here.

But if it's nitecap-less then that's good enough for me. 😍

Yes, AMEN to the last line of your post.

True, things around there are slow. But hey, it just started up like yesterday foo 😉 Also, keep in mind that ppl are just beginning to make the transition.

Plus factor in: 1) Match craziness is over 2) it's close to summer, etc. 3) prolly will be less ppl on there then here. so the traffic may be slower, but the traffic on here has been slower too in recent weeks (aside from the Nitecap stuff).

Hang tight fellas!

Please PM me if anyone else has been having problems with the Password or anything. I've tried to address issues on a case by case basis. But it's hard when there's only one of us! Man, do I feel the pain that Venty and OMD were going through! It's all good though, it's for a good cause!

BTW, first case posted on there today!

 

[ThinkFast007]

May I ask a favor from you all. If interested in the Private Forum, please just leave a message on HERE. The proper person will contact you.

I keep having to empty out my PM box cuz of inadequate space. Thanks!

 

[Wyclef]

Budding M1 here. Long time reader, first time poster to this forum. I have learned a ton from this forum and would love to be included in the club!

 

[SleepIsGood]

Budding M1 here. Long time reader, first time poster to this forum. I have learned a ton from this forum and would love to be included in the club!

Good to see that you are on the ball that early in the game!

Anyways, flip through this thread and you will see the 'requirements' for the private forum, if you meet them fine. Please note one of the requirements is being a ASA member.

I know the requirements may seem trivial to some, but it helps maintain a standard and maintains privacy. Further, it prevents troll infiltration.

For those med students, just remember this public forum is still a good source of info and attendings/residents will be posting on here too.

Thank you for your understanding and enthusiasm.

 

[chrisjohn]

Never post because I don't have anything to contribute, but I hugely appreciate those with experience sharing. Matriculated this year, will be a budding MSI come August, and will get that ASA student membership. Please keep posting in the open forum, there are some grateful readers.

As a prior service non-traditional student, it's great see the promised land. As for the trolls, they are insignificant pukes. Instead of tearing professionals down, try becoming one yourself.

 

[Carm]

Request please

 

[mocdoc]

I think I am in chicamedica's graduating class, starting an anesthesiology residency next year.

I have been away for a few weeks and I don't post often so I am not up to date on the private room.

 

[Induc(junc)tion]

Hook me up yall!

 

[georgiadawg]

May I ask a favor from you all. If interested in the Private Forum, please just leave a message on HERE. The proper person will contact you.

I keep having to empty out my PM box cuz of inadequate space. Thanks!

i'd like an invite. start ca-1 in 07. surgery intern now. thanks.

 

[SleepIsGood]

Hey everyone-

Real quick, as thinkfast007 wrote please do not PM him about the private forum. Please PM me.

Also. I think I've communicated one way or another with everyone that's asked for the private forum.

Thanks for everyone's patience and understanding.

Later

 

[toughlife]

remember sleepgood also said you need to be an ASA member to gain access to the private forum.

So open your wallets, get your $10 out and get a membership.

 

[KluverBucy]

i was "tapped" a few days ago and thought for sure my computer was gonna be fuked over with a virus, but luckily i was wrong. thanks alot guys, i nearly **** my pants cuz of your private message.

anyway, not an ASA member right now, but will have to get the $ together. anyway...why is it so necessary to know all my personal info for this private forum? can't you just tell by my previous posts who i am (i.e. i'm an a$$hole at times and obviously am not too fond of nitecap), instead of giving out all my personal info??

 

[SleepIsGood]

i was "tapped" a few days ago and thought for sure my computer was gonna be fuked over with a virus, but luckily i was wrong. thanks alot guys, i nearly **** my pants cuz of your private message.

anyway, not an ASA member right now, but will have to get the $ together. anyway...why is it so necessary to know all my personal info for this private forum? can't you just tell by my previous posts who i am (i.e. i'm an a$$hole at times and obviously am not too fond of nitecap), instead of giving out all my personal info??

Hey Kluver-

I understand your concern. But hey, we've got a lot of ppl already in the private forum. Everyone that went through had to do it. It's just a way to make certain that everyone is who they say they are. The info is not shared with ANYONE by any means, just utilized for verification purposes through the ASA. No moderator can give out personal info to anyone.

Most of us believe that $10 that one has to pay for the ASA is a great investment. For people that are interested in Anesthesiology it's a great way to learn about the fascinating field via the free Journals and Newsletters that you get monthly. Further, for the private forum, we do want to mk certain that 'physicians/docs to be/attendings" are in it ONLY. Everyone in there knows that everyone went through the same screening process, although no one in the forum except the moderator knows your identity. Hey man, it just makes being 'more open' with each other a lot easier.

Well, I hope you choose whatever you think suits you best.

Thanks, hope to see you there soon 👍

 

[KluverBucy]

Hey Kluver-

I understand your concern. But hey, we've got a lot of ppl already in the private forum. Everyone that went through had to do it. It's just a way to make certain that everyone is who they say they are. The info is not shared with ANYONE by any means, just utilized for verification purposes through the ASA. No moderator can give out personal info to anyone.

Most of us believe that $10 that one has to pay for the ASA is a great investment. For people that are interested in Anesthesiology it's a great way to learn about the fascinating field via the free Journals and Newsletters that you get monthly. Further, for the private forum, we do want to mk certain that 'physicians/docs to be/attendings" are in it ONLY. Everyone in there knows that everyone went through the same screening process, although no one in the forum except the moderator knows your identity. Hey man, it just makes being 'more open' with each other a lot easier.

Well, I hope you choose whatever you think suits you best.

Thanks, hope to see you there soon 👍

yea, i def think the 10 bones for the ASA is a great deal, don't get me wrong. it's just that i'll have to think about whether to join, however i do agree that it's a good place to discuss certain topics without "others" interjecting with absurd comments.

ps. i hope no one was offended when i said that i thought i nearly got a virus and "thanks alot for almost making me **** my pants" cuz i was just messing with you guys. 😉 i meant to add this ---> to my previous comment, but obviously left it out by accident. 😎

 

[TofuBalls]

CA-3
Just paid ABA $950 for written exam registration.
Have ASA card in wallet.
Player's Club Member

May I please have access?

Thanks

 

[Dr. J?]

MSIV....ASA app 'in process'....requesting secret handshake.

 

[jetproppilot]

CA-3
Just paid ABA $950 for written exam registration.
Have ASA card in wallet.
Player's Club Member

May I please have access?

Thanks

players club member...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

 

[supahfresh]

Riviera Casino player's member, Las Vegas, Nevada

 

[Annette]

For goodness sake! registered with SDN in 1999! Been sucked in by trolls, but only in my more naive years. 70 days until I become an attending. Not a member of ASA 'cause I'm not an anesthesiologist. I appreciate reading the cases, though. Hope you don't put all the good stuff in the private forum.

 

[jetproppilot]

For goodness sake! registered with SDN in 1999! Been sucked in by trolls, but only in my more naive years. 70 days until I become an attending. Not a member of ASA 'cause I'm not an anesthesiologist. I appreciate reading the cases, though. Hope you don't put all the good stuff in the private forum.

I'm stayin' here.

Think The Ring concept is more novelty than anything else.

I'll stop into The Ring periodically, climb up the two flights of stairs to the VIP section, sit around, shoot the bull.

But SDN Anesthesia speaks to the masses.

Thats what I'm interested in.

 

[Dr. J?]

The 'Masses' are appreciative to all the attendings out there in cyberspace who take the time to drop knowledge and offer advice to those that follow.

 

[ThinkFast007]

I'm stayin' here.

Think The Ring concept is more novelty than anything else.

I'll stop into The Ring periodically, climb up the two flights of stairs to the VIP section, sit around, shoot the bull.

But SDN Anesthesia speaks to the masses.

Thats what I'm interested in.

Hey...as they say, "you know you". maybe it's not for you. I dont see it as a 'ring'. Yo man, if you dont like the concept, then that's cool..but i dont think it's something that needs to be constantly be projected as a 'cult' or 'ring'. I just see it as a forum where physicians/residents/med students can discuss in private the issues facing anesthesiology in confidence w/o external eavesdropping. Guys like Nitcap, who run rappant on here already said in soo many words, "I just want to go on these doctor forums and learn about what you guys say so that I'm better equipped to counter what you all will be saying in the real world". Personally, I think some info should be for docs eye's only. If medicine was just a science, w/o any "art" then I guess we would all just be CRNAs. I think part of being a doctor is keeping some things w/i the profession w/o exposing EVERYTHING. It's not about insecurity or immaturity, it's about maintaining the profession.

I still remember less than 10 yrs ago walking into a doc's office with the 'sniffles'. Because of the respect I had for him and this 'mysteriousness' about a doc, I would walk out of his clinic feeling better w/o him having done almost anything to me. I think that's part of the so called 'art of medicine'. How many ppl now walk into doctors offices with that same notion?..I think it's rare.

I think there needs to be a line drawn with being friendly with other professionals, and letting them know everything about your profession so that they can trump you one day (as you have seen, many are already trying to specialize in things like pain already). Why are anesthesiologists perceived by surgeons and others as being able to do the job of nurse? cuz we let them do a lot of what DOCTORS were once only able to do. Look JPP, i know you have made your 'millions' did your thing and are happy with it. OF course, the concern for what's in the future for FUTURE anesthesiologists may not be of big concern to you. I think it's a little naive to say that there arent a ton of CRNAs that think/act like Nitecap, but in the 'real world' put on the guise of just wanting to work and 'help'. I'm sure if you met nitecap in real life, he wouldnt be as much of a 'harda$$" as he is on here. in fact, he would probably 'kiss butt' and try to get whatever info out of you as it pertains anesthesiology as he can. It's clear from his words that he and many others on here arent in here just to 'learn' for the heck of it, but rather to expand their interests. I supopse I am more concerned about the interests of us budding anesthesiologists. I'm sure you can understand that since you were once there. But hey, like I said, you know what's best for you brother. If physicians dont look out for their own interests NO ONE will. It's clear from what's happened historically, that docs do not look out for their own interests and thus are in teh stage we are in right now w/ managed care.

btw, not a full fledged VIP section yet. we're still working on some lushy couches and open martini bar.

 

[ThinkFast007]

The 'Masses' are appreciative to all the attendings out there in cyberspace who take the time to drop knowledge and offer advice to those that follow.

LOL...

dont worry the masses are welcome to teh private forum too. just need an ASA membership, which as I've stated earlier is avery valuable thing to have!

later

 

[ThinkFast007]

For goodness sake! registered with SDN in 1999! Been sucked in by trolls, but only in my more naive years. 70 days until I become an attending. Not a member of ASA 'cause I'm not an anesthesiologist. I appreciate reading the cases, though. Hope you don't put all the good stuff in the private forum.

you dont have to be an anestehsiologist to be a member of the ASA...it's open to med studetns and residents 😉

by the way...the saying above your avatar...overeducated, underpaid... that's why it's important to mk sure YOUR interests are looked out after 😉

 

[toughlife]

Hey...as they say, "you know you". maybe it's not for you. I dont see it as a 'ring'. Yo man, if you dont like the concept, then that's cool..but i dont think it's something that needs to be constantly be projected as a 'cult' or 'ring'. I just see it as a forum where physicians/residents/med students can discuss in private the issues facing anesthesiology in confidence w/o external eavesdropping. Guys like Nitcap, who run rappant on here already said in soo many words, "I just want to go on these doctor forums and learn about what you guys say so that I'm better equipped to counter what you all will be saying in the real world". Personally, I think some info should be for docs eye's only. If medicine was just a science, w/o any "art" then I guess we would all just be CRNAs. I think part of being a doctor is keeping some things w/i the profession w/o exposing EVERYTHING. It's not about insecurity or immaturity, it's about maintaining the profession.

I still remember less than 10 yrs ago walking into a doc's office with the 'sniffles'. Because of the respect I had for him and this 'mysteriousness' about a doc, I would walk out of his clinic feeling better w/o him having done almost anything to me. I think that's part of the so called 'art of medicine'. How many ppl now walk into doctors offices with that same notion?..I think it's rare.

I think there needs to be a line drawn with being friendly with other professionals, and letting them know everything about your profession so that they can trump you one day (as you have seen, many are already trying to specialize in things like pain already). Why are anesthesiologists perceived by surgeons and others as being able to do the job of nurse? cuz we let them do a lot of what DOCTORS were once only able to do. Look JPP, i know you have made your 'millions' did your thing and are happy with it. OF course, the concern for what's in the future for FUTURE anesthesiologists may not be of big concern to you. I think it's a little naive to say that there arent a ton of CRNAs that think/act like Nitecap, but in the 'real world' put on the guise of just wanting to work and 'help'. I'm sure if you met nitecap in real life, he wouldnt be as much of a 'harda$$" as he is on here. in fact, he would probably 'kiss butt' and try to get whatever info out of you as it pertains anesthesiology as he can. It's clear from his words that he and many others on here arent in here just to 'learn' for the heck of it, but rather to expand their interests. I supopse I am more concerned about the interests of us budding anesthesiologists. I'm sure you can understand that since you were once there. But hey, like I said, you know what's best for you brother. If physicians dont look out for their own interests NO ONE will. It's clear from what's happened historically, that docs do not look out for their own interests and thus are in teh stage we are in right now w/ managed care.

btw, not a full fledged VIP section yet. we're still working on some lushy couches and open martini bar.

I am with thinkfast on this one. It is important for us newbies to stick together and make sure we continue to maintain the viability of the field as best we can. For those of you who already did your thing and were successful I say congrats!
Now it is our turn and I'm sure we won't have it as easy as tbose of you did.

Requiring ASA membership to join the forum is great because it will encourage everyone to become active in the political process. What we are doing here is no different than what the AANA does with their members.

It is great to see the UTsouthwestern, militaryMD and noyac are already part of the private forum.

 

[BlackScorpion]

So how does a new user like myself become a member of this private forum? Third year medical student, interested in anesthesiology

 

[jetproppilot]

I am with thinkfast on this one. It is important for us newbies to stick together and make sure we continue to maintain the viability of the field as best we can. For those of you who already did your thing and were successful I say congrats!
Now it is our turn and I'm sure we won't have it as easy as tbose of you did.

Requiring ASA membership to join the forum is great because it will encourage everyone to become active in the political process. What we are doing here is no different than what the AANA does with their members.

It is great to see the UTsouthwestern, militaryMD and noyac are already part of the private forum.

Liike I said previously,

I think the private forum has its place.

But I hope the banter between the rockstars here does not diminish.

In the early nineties, there were attendings that were rockstars to me. Stupid microcosm thinking, yes. But important to me as a budding physician,

yes.

The internet has given us a tool to disseminate our medical (and sometimes personal) lives.

For whatever stupid reason, I'm gratified by that.

And the cyber-world allows me to write, which is really my ultimate passion.

Writing in an invatation-only forum defeats my purpose.

I mean, what are we gonna talk about in The Foreskin Society that can't be talked about here?

Mil/UT/Noyac know all the tricks.

So we talk about the tricks of the trade that we all know about.

And we've sequestered our audience.

Brilliant.

I think the answer is for the moderators to be more aggressive with terrorrists that divert threads.

Not forming a foreskin society.

 

[Wyclef]

I agree that the private forum is a good idea. It will make it easier for yall to discuss the current problems in anesthesiology (the turf war, etc.) and come up with solutions without being interrupted every 5 seconds by nitecap or others hostile to the profession. I appreciate TL and TF's political mindedness. I'll be glad to join in the fall after I can join the ASA. Until then, if you come up with any marching orders that us non-card carrying members can help out with, just let us know.

I do appreciate Jet's stance too that he wants to post to the masses. Being a faithful reader, I appreciate this. I would hate for anyone to be excluded from reading great posts and learning from current residents/attendings. Maybe the private forum can be for war plans only, and everything else can remain in the main forum?

Peace.

 

[jetproppilot]

I agree that the private forum is a good idea. It will make it easier for yall to discuss the current problems in anesthesiology (the turf war, etc.) and come up with solutions without being interrupted every 5 seconds by nitecap or others hostile to the profession. I'll be glad to join in the fall after I can join the ASA. Until then, if you come up with any marching orders that us non-card carrying members can help out with, just let us know. Peace.

Wyclef,

FBI Jet Profiler here.

You sure do have alotta names for the same avatar.

 

[SleepIsGood]

So how does a new user like myself become a member of this private forum? Third year medical student, interested in anesthesiology

Hey there BlackScorpion.

It's pretty easy. Just check out either page one or two of this thread and you will see the requirements. One of which is ASA membership. One of our other posters was kind enough to actually even post the PDF link. Got any more q's , just PM me.

p.s. no foreskin is needed

 

[Wyclef]

Wyclef,

FBI Jet Profiler here.

You sure do have alotta names for the same avatar.

<chuckle> It was my favorite avatar SDN offered! Ket! If I was just a tad more computer savvy I'd learn how to get a customized one on here...Maybe when I get to 50 posts I'll decide to find a decent one... I don't mind being profiled (or having my overseas phone calls listened to) by you FBI types if it helps protect us from people who should be profiled!

 

[SleepIsGood]

So we talk about the tricks of the trade that we all know about.

And we've sequestered our audience.

Brilliant.

I think the answer is for the moderators to be more aggressive with terrorrists that divert threads.

Not forming a foreskin society.

Hey Jet..

Perhaps this is not the place to say this. But as a new moderator on the private forum, i can tell you that we're VERY busy in terms of having to screen stuff, etc. I can NOW empathize with the mods on here cuz it's impossible for us to read each and every little thing. And at the same time give ppl the opportunity to say what they want to.

Although I love SDN, and I spend a lot of time on it. I think we all have other things in our life to do so it mks it hard to just 'swat' the problem makers. That's why the private forum is so great, it's free of CRNAs that just want to 'start' trouble. Why not focus that energy tht would be used to 'swat' into something more positive, as in advancing the interests/education of med students/residents/attendings interested in Anesthesiology.

 

[jetproppilot]

Hey Jet..

Perhaps this is not the place to say this. But as a new moderator on the private forum, i can tell you that we're VERY busy in terms of having to screen stuff, etc. I can NOW empathize with the mods on here cuz it's impossible for us to read each and every little thing. And at the same time give ppl the opportunity to say what they want to.

Although I love SDN, and I spend a lot of time on it. I think we all have other things in our life to do so it mks it hard to just 'swat' the problem makers. That's why the private forum is so great, it's free of CRNAs that just want to 'start' trouble. Why not focus that energy tht would be used to 'swat' into something more positive, as in advancing the interests/education of med students/residents/attendings interested in Anesthesiology.

OK Sleep,

I respect your post.

But gimme a break.

How many med schools are there out there?

How many residencies?

How many of those individuals are gonna take the time, if they are even aware of its existence, to join The Foreskin Society???

Mil/Noyac/UTs informative posts are better served here.

I didnt realize how vast our audience was until I was banned by The Ostrich Chick.

Read that thread. It'll amuse you. It humbled me.

I'm stikkin' here for the most part.

Again, if they get their VIP section up to snuff with some oversized couches and some Playstation-2s, I'll chill there for some time.

But again, its kinda defeating the purpose.

 

[SleepIsGood]

OK Sleep,

I respect your post.

But gimme a break.

How many med schools are there out there?

How many residencies?

How many of those individuals are gonna take the time, if they are even aware of its existence, to join The Foreskin Society???
.

you're pushing the envelop on the playstations, unforunatley i dont know about what kind of funding we're going to get to get all of that together.

But hey, listen, word of mouth is GREAT. I think just in one week the increased PMs from students/residents is a very good step in the right direction.

Dont worry man, word will get around. I know I'm trying to get more ppl from my med school on there. I know others in it are also trying to do the same thing. Dude, honestly it serves a good purpose. It's SDN man. IT's SDN with a password, which only require ASA membership. That's it.

We're relatively new. But hey we've got vision.

 

[SleepIsGood]

Just to all you med students / residents

Listen, as we've posted on here before. The Private Forum is not a secret society, where individuals must surrender some part of their anatomy. It's only intention is to help you and I (medstudents/residents) and even the attendings.

It's the exact same thing as this public forum, but with a password.

If you guys prefer constantly fighting with the Trolls/CRNAs/ etc, then perhaps this public forum is the right one for you (which I will concede can be entertaining..but definitely the true intent of SDN). I dont enjoy getting a kick out of CRNAs soaking up the knowledge only to advance their own agenda. Further, I dont LOVE fighting them online all the time.


There you have it on record. 😉

btw I hope all of you guys who requested invites got one. I tried to get around to everyone. Please contact me again if you posted on here/PMd me and have not heard anything.

later

 

[KluverBucy]

good thing a foreskin isn't required for this society, cuz i lost my 'turtleneck' quite some time ago....no wonder i'm always cold in the winter

 

[SleepIsGood]

good thing a foreskin isn't required for this society, cuz i lost my 'turtleneck' quite some time ago....no wonder i'm always cold in the winter

I agree it's a good thing. Honestly, I wouldnt have known how to allow females in if that was a requirement, 😀

 

[cfdavid]

LOL...

dont worry the masses are welcome to teh private forum too. just need an ASA membership, which as I've stated earlier is avery valuable thing to have!

later

LOL If Nurse Nitecap wants to gain access to our "secrets" let's at least make him pay into our lobbying fund.

 

[TheSleepMaster]

You guys are tripping. Where are you getting your stuff at? It is bunk.

 

[Rameumptom]

Hey Sleep is Good,
I'm an MSIII with an ASA membership of 2 years. Can I please come play in the private forum? Thanks.

 

[SleepIsGood]

Hey Sleep is Good,
I'm an MSIII with an ASA membership of 2 years. Can I please come play in the private forum? Thanks.

tell me if you got a PM or not from me.

later

 

[cfdavid]

I didnt realize how vast our audience was until I was banned by The Ostrich Chick.

.

Oh, come on Dr. Mom. It's all in good fun...lol

 

[Bobblehead]

Listen, as we've posted on here before. The Private Forum is not a secret society, where individuals must surrender some part of their anatomy. It's only intention is to help you and I (medstudents/residents) and even the attendings.

I looked up the membership costs for ASA out of curiosity:

$10 to a med student
$25 to an anesthesia resident
$225 to all other MD trainees

While it's mostly not a lot of money your audience are people drawn to a free forum (and the lurkers that never bother registering an account). Some of the more interested students may pay the fee and wait for the secret handshake but you may lose the group that isn't as interested yet. On the other hand that's sometimes the price you have to pay to keep the trolls away.

 

[SleepIsGood]

I looked up the membership costs for ASA out of curiosity:

$10 to a med student
$25 to an anesthesia resident
$225 to all other MD trainees

While it's mostly not a lot of money your audience are people drawn to a free forum (and the lurkers that never bother registering an account). Some of the more interested students may pay the fee and wait for the secret handshake but you may lose the group that isn't as interested yet. On the other hand that's sometimes the price you have to pay to keep the trolls away.

I realize this myfriend and I hear ya.

However, it's the best way to keep the trolls away. Enforcing/Fighting with the trolls 'online' just cause the threads to spiral downward and are frankly a waste of time to me. It's all about what you want. I'm an advocate of quality vs just quantity.

Oh and I think it's $5 to students if they sign up before June or something?

Cheers,

 

[VolatileAgent]

seeing as this thread has gotten to 100 posts, i gotta chime in.

i am a card-carrying asa resident member. i am a frequent contributor to this forum. i work with techs, nurses, crna's, other residents, attendings, nurses in other departments, other residents, other attendings, nurses aides, food service workers, cleaning staff... you get the picture. i listen to everyone and want to hear their advice, opinions, feelings, wants, wishes, desires. i strive to communicate with everyone. but, if and when push comes to shove, i will let whomever is existing solely to challenge me know that the buck stops with me (as the direct representative of the attending who's co-signing my work). that should be good enough for any physician. when it comes down to it, i will listen - and even learn - from every possible person i can. this makes me a better physician. and, i have a great reputation as a confident, knowledgable doctor because of it. but, if someone makes it obvious that they are existing solely to challenge me, i will make it clear - with facts - that the ultimate responsibility ends with me and, if necessary, remind them that the discusison we are having is a courtesy. not surprisingly, this gets me even more respect.

i want no part of this embarrassment you are proposing.

this 'private forum' business is incredibly lame. if you can't handle being a professional and dealing with dissent, pick another profession. what are you going to do each time a nurse questions one of your orders? are you going to run away into some private room and have a discussion among your other resident colleagues about how stupid that nurse is and she should have listened to you? trust me you will have a very rough residency if you think this is an effective way to handle confrontation.

thinkfast, you are very paranoid and insecure. i just can't understand how you can live in a world where you feel so threatened by words that you have to run and hide. this private forum business has propelled your lameness to new heights.

count me out.

 

[DrMom]

The Ostrich Chick.

That would be an emu. 😉