Nick8 Full Member 10+ Year Member Joined Apr 16, 2010 Messages 25 Reaction score 0 Points 0 Resident [Any Field] Jun 6, 2011 #1 Members do not see this ad. If I want to assess a lung shunt in a patient who is on a ventilator, do I have to set FiO2=100% or I can assess the shunt on any FiO2?
Members do not see this ad. If I want to assess a lung shunt in a patient who is on a ventilator, do I have to set FiO2=100% or I can assess the shunt on any FiO2?
Doctor4Life1769 **tr0llin, ridin dirty** Verified Member 15+ Year Member Joined Apr 28, 2008 Messages 34,250 Reaction score 917 Points 5,341 Location Where the grass is always greener Resident [Any Field] Jun 6, 2011 #2 I thought it was 100% O2, but my memory fades me at this point.... I'll relearn it for Step 3/internship/residency.
I thought it was 100% O2, but my memory fades me at this point.... I'll relearn it for Step 3/internship/residency.
PMPMD 4G MD Verified Member Physician Faculty 15+ Year Member 20+ Year Member Joined Oct 16, 2001 Messages 1,432 Reaction score 28 Points 4,696 Attending Physician Jun 7, 2011 #3 If you're talking about the calculation of shunt fraction from the forumla below, then yes. Qs/Qt = (CcO2 - CaO2) / (CcO2 - CvO2) FiO2 is set to 1.0 to make the calculation of CcO2 easier.
If you're talking about the calculation of shunt fraction from the forumla below, then yes. Qs/Qt = (CcO2 - CaO2) / (CcO2 - CvO2) FiO2 is set to 1.0 to make the calculation of CcO2 easier.
Nick8 Full Member 10+ Year Member Joined Apr 16, 2010 Messages 25 Reaction score 0 Points 0 Resident [Any Field] Jun 8, 2011 #4 PMPMD said: If you're talking about the calculation of shunt fraction from the forumla below, then yes. Qs/Qt = (CcO2 - CaO2) / (CcO2 - CvO2) FiO2 is set to 1.0 to make the calculation of CcO2 easier. Click to expand... Thank you for your answer. However does the shunt depend on FiO2? If yes, Iwill have different shunts in different sets of FiO2 in one patient.
PMPMD said: If you're talking about the calculation of shunt fraction from the forumla below, then yes. Qs/Qt = (CcO2 - CaO2) / (CcO2 - CvO2) FiO2 is set to 1.0 to make the calculation of CcO2 easier. Click to expand... Thank you for your answer. However does the shunt depend on FiO2? If yes, Iwill have different shunts in different sets of FiO2 in one patient.
Paseo Del Norte Full Member 10+ Year Member Joined Jun 11, 2009 Messages 606 Reaction score 0 Points 0 Location Land of Sand Non-Student Jun 11, 2011 #5 Nick8 said: Thank you for your answer. However does the shunt depend on FiO2? If yes, Iwill have different shunts in different sets of FiO2 in one patient. Click to expand... Traditionally, I believe the thinking is that the shunt equation, when calculated with an FiO2 of less than 1.0 will be a mix of both shunt and venous admixture as opposed to shunt only.
Nick8 said: Thank you for your answer. However does the shunt depend on FiO2? If yes, Iwill have different shunts in different sets of FiO2 in one patient. Click to expand... Traditionally, I believe the thinking is that the shunt equation, when calculated with an FiO2 of less than 1.0 will be a mix of both shunt and venous admixture as opposed to shunt only.
fakin' the funk Full Member Verified Member 15+ Year Member Joined Aug 23, 2004 Messages 2,934 Reaction score 983 Points 5,291 Attending Physician Jun 16, 2011 #6 PMPMD said: If you're talking about the calculation of shunt fraction from the forumla below, then yes. Qs/Qt = (CcO2 - CaO2) / (CcO2 - CvO2) FiO2 is set to 1.0 to make the calculation of CcO2 easier. Click to expand... Which is to say, FiO2 is set to 1.0 to assume a ScO2 (sat post-ventilated capillary) of 100% Unless you have crazy diffusion impairment, you can simplify this equation to: Shunt % = (1-SaO2)/(1-SvO2) The shunt fraction does not depend on the FiO2, but the PO2 and SaO2 and SvO2 will
PMPMD said: If you're talking about the calculation of shunt fraction from the forumla below, then yes. Qs/Qt = (CcO2 - CaO2) / (CcO2 - CvO2) FiO2 is set to 1.0 to make the calculation of CcO2 easier. Click to expand... Which is to say, FiO2 is set to 1.0 to assume a ScO2 (sat post-ventilated capillary) of 100% Unless you have crazy diffusion impairment, you can simplify this equation to: Shunt % = (1-SaO2)/(1-SvO2) The shunt fraction does not depend on the FiO2, but the PO2 and SaO2 and SvO2 will