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because I'm not confident it's Clem. AM stuck her vote almost all phase on moon, and was resistant to voting PSV so yes I think she has a better chance of being scum than most. You're in there because your vote feels most like "oh crap my partner is dying I better vote them" than earlier votes.
Did you forget that I'm the reason PSV went over moon? I egged that vote on the entire cycle even if I wasn't physically part of it.
Yeah, it's not great but that's usually how they're formed.
I'd love to hear your (stronger) arguments for others then
But am I the first to trademark?!
Eh, if I know I’m likely to go over like I’m champs I tried to form the blocc with myself as an outsider. Even tho I knew I was village I was realistic about thread state.
Sorry, could you rephrase?
Oh I’m just saying if you’re village and you’re high in the Poe you have to work under the assumption you stand to get yeeted so if you’re going to make a game winning blocc you can’t be in it.
@Thunal33 Also I’m going to add this out there as an AM defense who saw what thunal saw when I originally moved you down in the Poe. If you just look at vote movement and where AM was putting her Sus I agree it could look like someone shading their packmate without actually having to vote there.
I'd never operate under that assumption. As a villager, I'm even more lock town than an innocent child. Therefor I'm not an "expendable" that can die. So I completely understand where he's coming from even if I don't agree with it.
Eh
OK, so what direction do you propose? Who's your choice for Most Likely Wolf?
I think it's worth looking at the rest of Clem ISO's at well.
So is your POE is just Clem/Thunal? Because that's probably fine with me tbh.
Like, this is my list from before rereading. If genny moves up, that basically leaves me Clem/Thunal, too.
I can't see you killing Santy when he was your biggest, unwavering supporter.
Really more a question of how big the gap is, with a tiny side of "am I misclearing someone higher up?" But I'm with samac tbh - I don't want to go around in circles second-guessing myself when it could be straightforward. Save worry for D3.
I wouldn't call one post telling moon to self pres and then not talking about it forcing her to. AM was still on moon the whole day and she spent more time than others did trying to get content from PSV and interact with her. She gave PSV a lot of chances to look towny. If there is something really towny about AM I welcome people's input but I don't see it.
how AM was pushing PSV I think could also be an in to get PSV to react in a towny way and get cleared. Yes AM put a lot of heat on PSV but she never actually voted there and her push was quite open ended/giving PSV a lot of room to look good off it.
In your opinion, what should I have said to moon after she self-prezzed on PSV when I told her to?
Why are you avoiding the posts I made to PSV? They're very easy to find.
I looked through your ISO. Which posts do you think I'm avoiding?
Literally 98% of my posts. Go through it again.
There's nothing you should have said, I was just saying that you didn't force her. It's not in itself wolfy in a black and white way and that wasn't what I was saying, I was saying that it had a plausible wolf motive and made sense as w/w interaction if you were concerned about PSV not being towny enough.
That's not very helpful.
Okay, please explain how you force someone to vote that apparently isn't self-prez on PSV unless you're 99% certain she's a town PR"?
I don't know but that wasn't even the question, I was concerned that the play wasn't as anti-wolf as you and others gave it. Anyone can tell someone to self-pres and that's only the reason PSV went over because she actually did it. Moon could easily have not done it or have self-pressed later without anyone telling her.
Anyone can tell someone to self-prez? Then why didn't you tell her that at any point before I did fiscal yesterday?
So you're back to shading moon again? Otherwise, I don't even know what this means.
You haven't voted anyone. I want to know why you're hesitating when we have this massive arsenal of information.
Because I didn't think of it. You could ask that same question to everyone else in the thread.
I can't ask that question to everyone because they stayed on PSV after voting her. Only two people screamed she was village leading up to EOD.
Then why are you arguing nonexistent points to try and discredit me?
...What?
Then the what the frick do you mean by "village cred"? If you think she's a villager, then that's just a villager voting.
You didn't vote late yesterday at all. That was PSV. You voted several hours before EOD.
PSV was literally the last voter yesterday so who knows what the scum team is planning.
I'm implicitly including myself as the fourth lol
I'm not trying to discredit you, I'm responding to your questions.
You're not my supervisor
Yes but you see I don't currently think it's likely I go over so I'm not super concerned about it
He was also incredibly unpaired from psv
vote thunal
Okay, I've never heard that before but thanks for clarifying.
...That probably won't bode well but we'll see I guess.
It's more about the psv side for me. I don't think psv feels particularly comfortable having extended interactions with/talking much about her partners with any amount of "substance."
So are a lot of people. So I still take note of choosing him.
