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Aprilthearab said:
Personally, this isn't really what pinged me about that post. It was more that it sets you up to not have to make your own reads, and idk, also just felt a little off and unexpected
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Oh ok, pulled the wrong stock response then, my bad.

Yeah yeah "but clem shouldn't you make your own reads completely independently?" why, when I can use someone who's better at the game's reads instead?
 
Anyways I'm aware of the various ways that statement can be SR, for the sake of brevity let's just assume that whichever one you're side eyeing it for I responded with a suitably mocking retort
 
Day 1 PLANT VOTE TALLY

[1] Clem J - Aprilthearab
[2] moonstermash - Animal Midwife, Thunal33
[0] samac
[0] Santygrass
[0] Animal Midwife (AM)
[2] potentialsheltervet (PSV) - Santygrass, genny
[2] Thunal33 - Clem J, moonstermash
[1] genny - samac

8/9

Missing: @potentialsheltervet

Vote closes TODAY at 8pm EST/5pm PST, 7/6/24 (~5.7 hours).
Note that this game has no hammer vote. Everything is pure deadline/plurality.
 
Fwiw, of the moon/PSV/thunal tie right now, I'd probably be most inclined to move to PSV. I still think moon might just be a stumbly villager (though the retaliation was strange) and I'm not sure what to make of thunal but I'd like to give them another cycle to think about it
 
PSV still hasn't voted. And she's tied on the board. It's a low tie, but still. Hmmmm
 
I almost certainly won't be here for eod
 
Aprilthearab said:
It wasn't low posting that made me sus him, it was what he did say that made me pause. Hard to pinpoint exactly why though. I think the overall vibe I got matched your description, minus the meta-specific analysis -
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Aprilthearab said:
I'm not using my own analysis of meta because I am personally too rusty and don't know some players well enough or at all, but I'm not going to dismiss other people's analysis of meta

Aka. I don't really have a foot to stand on to say "Clem sounds like his wolf meta." But if Santy says "Clem sounds like his wolf meta" then I'm interested in hearing his interpretation
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Eh, April's early posts are still towny so I don't think I really push her today. But I'm not a fan of that reaction to Moonster's vote when I didn't even think that and the reason for why Clem's sheep post pinged her is kind of weak.
 
Thunal33 said:
This kind of bothers me on reread. If moon is town it feels like egging on the fight between us.
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How was it egging on a fight? I didn't like that Moon immediately switched their vote onto the person who voted for them with no other explanation. It felt retaliatory and I called it out
 
Thunal33 said:
Eh, April's early posts are still towny so I don't think I really push her today. But I'm not a fan of that reaction to Moonster's vote when I didn't even think that and the reason for why Clem's sheep post pinged her is kind of weak.
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It is a weak reason, but Clem offered an explanation that didn't match my reason (may not have been the same for others) so I wanted to offer my reason
 
Thunal33 said:
what if I

vote PSV
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Why?
I don't think I've seen you sus PSV up until now, and your last reads list was this
Thunal33 said:
April
Santy/Samac
PSV/Clem
genny
AM/Moonster

is where I'm at right now. Like your questions to PSV/moonster which could be a way to get involved and generate content but it's fairly safe and i feel like I might see a towny underlying process if it were there.
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And previously, you thought that Clem's reason for village reading PSV was decent, which was likely more a reflection on your Clem read than PSV but you said it was "somewhat good for her"
Thunal33 said:
Clem is probably town with a little bit of paranoia there. I think his mindset read on PSV makes sense and I think it's somewhat good for her but I'm a little bothered about his level of confidence in it. I think realistically it's not that hard to fake/shouldn't be a lock.
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Looking at that reads list, I'm also wondering why the switch from Moon to PSV rather than to AM, Genny, or Clem who would all be people you feel worse or the same about
 
Thunal33 said:
April
Santy/Samac
PSV/Clem
genny
AM/Moonster

is where I'm at right now. Like your questions to PSV/moonster which could be a way to get involved and generate content but it's fairly safe and i feel like I might see a towny underlying process if it were there.
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Okay yet another thing that kind of bothers me is that PSV hasn't posted a single time since this reads list was posted so I would like to know what changed

There are several non-sketchy reasons someone could switch their vote like that, but I'm really not liking the naked switch in context of the reads list that was given after PSV's most recent posts
 
Aprilthearab said:
Looking at that reads list, I'm also wondering why the switch from Moon to PSV rather than to AM, Genny, or Clem who would all be people you feel worse or the same about
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Oh no thun is townreading me now
 
Animal Midwife said:
Not to interfere with your posts @Aprilthearab but I thought you were okay with PSV going over.
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I am, but I'm not okay with the lack of reasoning Thunal is giving for switching. I'm trying to decide if I think this is v/w and if so, which one is the w. Or, if it's w/w (doubt, but not impossible) and this is an attempt to scare people off of PSV or a premature bus
 
Aprilthearab said:
I am, but I'm not okay with the lack of reasoning Thunal is giving for switching. I'm trying to decide if I think this is v/w and if so, which one is the w. Or, if it's w/w (doubt, but not impossible) and this is an attempt to scare people off of PSV or a premature bus
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That'd be some pretty low confidence in a wagon to leave just because it got three votes. Especially if you think it's a bus.
 
Animal Midwife said:
That'd be some pretty low confidence in a wagon to leave just because it got three votes. Especially if you think it's a bus.
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Again, I am not discounting my read on PSV yet. I'm just confused about Thunal.
 
Aprilthearab said:
Why?
I don't think I've seen you sus PSV up until now, and your last reads list was this

And previously, you thought that Clem's reason for village reading PSV was decent, which was likely more a reflection on your Clem read than PSV but you said it was "somewhat good for her"
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I wanted to see how other people reacted to PSV being a top wagon and I didn't give reasons on purpose. I've had some more private sus on PSV since that list because I was second guessing my reads and I don't scumread AM anymore, but I still think moon is more likely to hit.
 
Aprilthearab said:
Okay yet another thing that kind of bothers me is that PSV hasn't posted a single time since this reads list was posted so I would like to know what changed

There are several non-sketchy reasons someone could switch their vote like that, but I'm really not liking the naked switch in context of the reads list that was given after PSV's most recent posts
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What changed was me thinking AM was towny and not really feeling genny so I think I was wrong somewhere and voting PSV might help me figure out where.
 
I think AM's response was good and April's was kind of mixed. Like I get people have different things they get pinged by but it's clear my naked vote wasn't because I couldn't come up with a reason or it was opportunistic. Like I've given reasons on literally everything before the vote, the naked vote had to have a point.
 
@Clem J random thought: if you plan on sheeping my reads why d1 vote me? I get having sus on me but if you think my reads will be good enough to sheep (which they may not be in a new place, but that's beside the point) why not consider giving me more time to make them?
 
Day 1 PLANT VOTE TALLY

[1] Clem J - Aprilthearab
[1] moonstermash - Animal Midwife
[0] samac
[0] Santygrass
[0] Animal Midwife (AM)
[3] potentialsheltervet (PSV) - Santygrass, genny, Thunal33
[2] Thunal33 - Clem J, moonstermash
[1] genny - samac

8/9

Missing: @potentialsheltervet

Vote closes TODAY at 8pm EST/5pm PST, 7/6/24 (~89 minutes).
Note that this game has no hammer vote. Everything is pure deadline/plurality.
 
vote moonster

This is probably my vote for EoD. If wolves are taking advantage of the sus on me moonster fits that bill more than Clem or anyone else. I think Clem's responses have been good for him and I'll sheep Clem's PSV read for now
 
Aprilthearab said:
Personally, this isn't really what pinged me about that post. It was more that it sets you up to not have to make your own reads, and idk, also just felt a little off and unexpected
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It’s very Clem though isn’t it? Am I misremembering Clem?
 
Aprilthearab said:
I am, but I'm not okay with the lack of reasoning Thunal is giving for switching. I'm trying to decide if I think this is v/w and if so, which one is the w. Or, if it's w/w (doubt, but not impossible) and this is an attempt to scare people off of PSV or a premature bus
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A bus this early without significant pressure on both wagons?
PSV wouldn’t willingly be apart of that
 
Thunal33 said:
vote moonster

This is probably my vote for EoD. If wolves are taking advantage of the sus on me moonster fits that bill more than Clem or anyone else. I think Clem's responses have been good for him and I'll sheep Clem's PSV read for now
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You have to unvote here so say “unvote PSV vote moonster”
 
samac said:
No. It hurt PSV’s soul and she doesn’t like what it did to future games and I don’t think she’d do it again.
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That's exactly what she said the first time she bussed.
 
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