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Hah, hate to defend the academicians, but the Cedars guys are solid and the training there is top-notch. This is probably an anomaly, but they are all well-pedigreed, decent guys who look out for their residents. From what I've heard, all the recent grads landed jobs/geographies of choice, and I know for a fact the faculty make calls to help their residents out on the job search.

you miss my point. My point is that the program was just not needed. I don’t care that Sandler is a nice guy or the “well pedegreed” faculty. Of course Larry David did not have any issues recruiting to live in Beverly Hills practicing at a celebrity hospital, where stars go to sober up after a coke heroine binge. So they kept a graduate to stay on faculty and now they “top notch”? The new NYC programs im sure are also fine. This is why places will never shut down.
 
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Lots of programs are solid but did they need to open. I am sure moffitt is a great center and one of the largest in the world.

agreed, also should have never been opened. I think about half of programs should be shut down.
 
agreed, also should have never been opened. I think about half of programs should be shut down.

There needs to be a merit system for closing/contracting programs. Increase RRC requirements dramatically, and the programs that cannot meet those within 2 years must contract or shut down. Why does Moffitt not get to have a program but University of Kansas is allowed 2 spots a year?
 
There needs to be a merit system for closing/contracting programs. Increase RRC requirements dramatically, and the programs that cannot meet those within 2 years must contract or shut down. Why does Moffitt not get to have a program but University of Kansas is allowed 2 spots a year?

There is a thread on twitter about what makes a good program or how to decide that. Worth contributing to if you have ideas.
 
There needs to be a merit system for closing/contracting programs. Increase RRC requirements dramatically, and the programs that cannot meet those within 2 years must contract or shut down. Why does Moffitt not get to have a program but University of Kansas is allowed 2 spots a year?

sure thats fine but what happens when Kansas actually meets these requirements and so does Moffit? Because the assumption is that some of these places will not meet and not all of them have low patient volume
 
Not according to KO!



Never met or heard of KO before this but man is he a beaurocrat w this ‘nobody knows the exact number defense.’ How about instead of Astro sitting on their behinds they go figure out the right number, or maybe KO should do that if he wants to ask a dumb question like that.
 
sure thats fine but what happens when Kansas actually meets these requirements and so does Moffit? Because the assumption is that some of these places will not meet and not all of them have low patient volume

Then they both get to keep their spots. Ideally, the lines are moved so as to get us back to 120-150 a year. I do not care where those cuts are made.

First things first let's talk about basic things that aren't based on case volume. These are my opinions of what should happen at minimum. Feel free to copy and paste them to twitter.
1. There HAS to be a 1:1 Attending to Resident ratio at absolute minimum. 6 attendings with 8 residents is absolutely unacceptable and grounds for immediate contraction. The concept of 'well 2 residents are on research' is an absolute affront to our field.
2. Minimum of 6 attendings to be eligible for a residency program (Willing to compromise on this). I think going through 4 years of residency learning from 4 attendings (the minimum) is not acceptable. For programs with significant numbers of lab-based attendings (say 80/20 research) this has to be 6 full-time equivalents (FTEs), meaning that if you have 2 80% researchers, you need 8 attendings.
3. To piggy back on 1 and 2, 1 FTE Attending: 1 Resident minimum ratio. 5 attendings that are 80% research = 1 Resident. 5 attendings that are 80% clinical = 4 residents.
4. All academic attendings are required to have at least 2 to 3 months every academic year without having resident coverage. If there are not enough attendings to accomodate all the residents (even with the ones that are on research), then contract the residency.
5. Maximum number of hospitals that a resident rotates at during their residency is 3, not including true electives that are resident driven (and not semi-mandatory such as a pediatrics rotation).

I imagine that policies such as these would eliminate at least 10-15 spots a year without even getting into massively increased graduation requirements.
 
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Never met or heard of KO before this but man is he a beaurocrat w this ‘nobody knows the exact number defense.’ How about instead of Astro sitting on their behinds they go figure out the right number, or maybe KO should do that if he wants to ask a dumb question like that.
if nobody "knows" and this is small field with "wild" fluctuations, seems like most irresponsible thing you could do is just double residency slots?
cant predict the future bs, so lets throw up hands and do nothing. We could use the past to guide us and in the past has there ever been a shortage of radiation oncologists?
 
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He's back! Not sure what to make of this one...

Is he joking? Upset he didn't get invited to speak?

I swear RW is the Donald Trump of RadOnc:

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This one made me lol, he must buddies with Francis Collins



RW seems to be losing it. Happens to a lot of old people that used to be influential, if he’s like this in public imagine how insufferable he’s become in person. Sad to see him ruin his legacy and leave us w stupid tweets. Let him be a lesson for younger physicians, just bc you are a physician says nothing about your actual ability to lead and influence, you’ll need to take classes and learn this skill which is a long process. Old foggies like RW are what happen to talented people with 0 leadership skills
 
A while back i was attacked on here for stating that boomers were the absolute worst people in rad onc. Was told to go eat avocado toast. Glad to see people are seeing the truth!
 
I thought the mass exodus out of mdacc was like 8 years ago?

maybe it continues.....
2013 I think?

 
Pretty disgusting post to suggest that because MDACC is “hiring” all these people, that means most people will have access to these opportunities. As a PD of a program known for scut, guy is now sending “vibes” lmao
 
Feel bad for the medstudent who does not know what they do not know. Med students should hear about the pros and cons of the field and any attempt to water down issues behind “good vibes” is just lying and deception

Man, the OG Tweet and the replies are just sad.

The med student is EXPLICITLY ASKING for positive vibes only?

Ok.

Do that with another topic - "hey, as a student, if I tell you I think the Nazis in World War 2 weren't entirely wrong, send me POSITIVE VIBES ONLY".

Ra-Ra-RadOnc crowd: "oh totally the Nazis were puppies and sunshine, let me @ these 18 other people who also think Nazis are swell".

This is medicine. You need to be able to use critical thinking to wade through good and bad evidence, opinions, practices etc to do what's best for your patients.

RTOG 0617 was wrong, I treat all my lung patients to 74 Gy and above, I keep getting destroyed in chart rounds and on my malpractice suits - POSITIVE VIBES ONLY. DO BETTER.
 
Back in day, they were obviously top in biology, but not a very busy department.
Sad thing is it ain't clinics keeping them busy. Its research on retrospective data. Helping get the PD to Houston. Waste of 4 years IMO, but some people are slow.
 
Why would an average program like ucla scut ppl out? You should at least be top tier to get away with that like Stanford, msk, and uchicago.
 
This poor med student. MS3 stuck in a Twitter echo chamber, matches 2021, graduates 2026, and then looks for a job. There will be >1000 new ROs between now and then (assuming massive contractions don’t take place), and I’m guessing MSKCC and MDACC won’t hire 50+ faculty each over the intervening years...

Percy et al, this seems as good a time as any to remind you and your acolytes that anecdotes are not data. Hiring 10 this year (main center or not) does not mean there is an abundance of jobs this year, and it definitely does not mean there will be jobs for 200 grads per year in 2026.

Whoops, there I go, being too negative. Mea culpa.

#radoncrocks *clap emoji x3*
 
The reason why MDACC is expanding is because they continue to take advantage of their cronyism at both a federal and regional level to massively overcharge for cancer care and receive state funds, both of which allow them to have significant financial resources with which to grow and compete.
 
This response even better...why they trying to undo all our hard work haha jk



"It's cold where I am right now, so climate change isn't a thing!"

I would consider it unethical to not tell an interested medical student about the jobs issue at the moment. If they still want to do radonc, fine, but at least allow them to have full information about the specialty.
 
DO BETTER. Hypothetical female med student with a potential bright future, choice for multiple specialties does not like hearing the “negativity” and wants people to do “better”. Women who curie tweeter handle fake activists offer “support”. When this candidate cannot find a job she likes to raise a family and where her SO needs to be, will she still ask the field to “do better”? The silence from the tweeter handle crew will be deafening. “Women who curie” will still be in cahoots with the same leaders driving our field off cliff (old white men and clown bully chairs) hurting women, minorities, and everyone else. DO BETTER.
 
Now if someone from mdacc would only tweet about financial toxicity like doc at mskcc...

THANK YOU for posting this. MSKCC is 5x as expensive as our practice (according to insurers, they, CTCA, and MDACC are all right around the same cost), so her basing a career on financial toxicity while working at one of the three most expensive cancer programs in the country is highly ironic at best and hypocritical at worst.

Additionally, she recently wrote that MSKCC gets EKGs on all patients before they start XRT (hers included, I would imagine), and she has no idea why or what the clinical benefit would be. So, essentially, she admitted to department-wide fraudulent over-billing. Nice.
 
Additionally, she recently wrote that MSKCC gets EKGs on all patients before they start XRT (hers included, I would imagine), and she has no idea why or what the clinical benefit would be.
just thoracic/L breast cases? Or all breasts? Or all RT patients (eg even a GBM patient, even palliative bone met patients)?
 
Ain’t it funny folks that we live in a world where someone can make a career out “financial toxicity” while working for a premier pretty financially “toxic” centre that clearly just over utilizes resources.
 
Ain’t it funny folks that we live in a world where someone can make a career out “financial toxicity” while working for a premier pretty financially “toxic” centre that clearly just over utilizes resources.

It is completely ridiculous. Unless you are actively trying to change the system and speaking out you are part of it. No wonder the public has such mistrust of physicians and believes we are a bunch of money grubbing gremlins.
 
Ain’t it funny folks that we live in a world where someone can make a career out “financial toxicity” while working for a premier pretty financially “toxic” centre that clearly just over utilizes resources.
While virtue signaling "choose wisely", at your lower-reimbursed cancer center, to everyone else
 
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