Originally posted by bigbaubdi
"...free speech-denying fascists such as bigbaudbi"
I am a free-speech denying fascist? Where have I said that ppl should be jailed or punished for expressing their viewpoints? You have the right to start an ORM thread just as I have the right to call such a thread racist. You have the right to challenge my characterization just as I have the right to defend it. That's what free speech is all about.
"not only should URMs talk about issues, but EVERY group should talk about whatever issues they please"
Exactly what types of issues and problems do ORMs have in getting admitted to medical school (besides whining about affirmative action)? Also given the fact that 90% of all med students are ORMs, why would you need to "Rally your fellow ORMs" as you suggested in a previous post? ORMs don't need to be "rallied". There is no need to "Rally" a group (white people) who have occupied a dominant position in medicine and American society for hundreds of years. Nor is there any need to "rally" Asians, who are on average relatively well off financially.
"how bout......the invention of modern math, philosophy, and physics. how bout electricity, the light bulb...vacines...penicilin...the automobile...flight....spacships..."
Your post is astonishingly Eurocentric. I'm not going to waste too much of my energy refuting this however I should point out that much of modern European advancement was based upon the violent subjugation of non white peoples. And of course, all human civilization comes straight out of Africa.
I can't believe how hypocritical you are. The way in which you deny free speech is by arguing against the organization of various majority groups, such as ORMs. You say such organization is similar to that of the KKK, hitler, blah blah blah. So of course you imply that ORM speech is different from URM speech, and that while the latter can organize to "improve" themselves, the former simply organizes for more sinister ends. This is the dumbest argument I have ever heard, and is completely racist.
90% of premeds are not ORMs. Yet again, you are simply making stuff up. Furthermore, asians and oppressed whites (poorer ones, ones denied education) and whatnot, are as needy of rallying as anyone else. Asians and poor whites, and even specific caucasian groups, have all been victims of hate at some point. Why is their plight ignored? You make gross generalizations about entire racial groups, showing me that you are the true racist here, speaking as if all within a certain group are well off, or all within another group are living in slums. I have news for you, there are poor asians and whites are there, and there are URMs out there with riches beyond your very imagination. So stop thinking of the world in black and white, in both a figurative and literal sense, because it has made you into a bigot.
hahahhahaha all human civilization comes out of africa? NO ONE HERE IS SAYING THAT URMS ARE INFERIOR A PRIORI. WE ARE SAYING THAT EVERY RACIAL GROUP DESERVES EQUAL CONSIDERATION, AND THAT INDIVIDUALITY SHOULD BE THE NORM. Get that message in your head, because god knows bigotry has already taken over in there. I am not saying URMs shouldnt organize to improve their situation. As I have already said repeatedly, URMs SHOULD organize to improve their situation. All I am saying is that ORMs have difficulties as well.
Let me raise an analogy, because it appears as if pure logic is lost on you. Let us treat a thread about a given subject as a club, like in school, in your case, middle school.
The URMs have a club to hang out. Why shouldnt the ORMs? They are still minorities (Asians are considered minorities, just because they are overrepresented in medicine due to having greater success without handouts, doesnt mean that they arent minorities). So why can certain races have clubs, but not Asians?
Basically, my fundamental question to you is, what is so wrong with certain groups organization? All I am saying is that every organization should be allowed to communicate freely as long as it does not harm anyone, which an ORM thread did not. How did the ORM thread hurt anyone? Why can certain groups not assemble within the perverted logical system your mind has generated while others can?
More importantly, why are you a bigot? How did you become a huge racist? Why do you associate all ORM group activity with the KKK and Hitler, while all URM group activity involves benefitting society?
You have a perverted worldview,bigbaubdi, and it saddens me that racist individuals such as yourself might one day be in some position of power. I hope this is not the case for society's sake.
