Random non-pathology and only peripherally related to pathology thread

[b&ierstiefel]

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My god...Michigan played awful. If they play like this, I can see them losing against Purdue, Minnesota, Iowa, and Ohio State. That would make for a 5-loss season which the Wolverines haven't had since...can't remember.

 

[yaah]

Yep. Terrible. Notre Dame played like crap but they made a few big plays and that was enough. Michigan just couldn't score a touchdown in the first half, and didn't seem to have the guts or the ability to go for any play that was greater than 4-5 yards.

I doubt it will be a 5 loss season. More likely, it will be a 1-2 loss season and this game will be remembered as the one in which they blew the chance at the title.

The word of the day is: Blundering.

 

[b&ierstiefel]

Well...some of the coaches in the storied programs have stated that these early games have been "growing up" games. I hope the loss today against ND really wakes this team up and they improve significantly...and FAST.

I never thought of this year's team as a national championship team. If Michigan WERE to play for national championship, I believe that whoever they played would hand their ass to them....and the loss would be even more embarrassing than Michigan's loss to USC last year.

This year is kind of a rebuilding year for the Maize and Blue. They lost a veteran QB and RB. Luckily, we have a trio of good receivers (what was up with Braylon dropping all those balls today though?) and an up and coming QB who I think will continue to develop. He needs to grow up fast though if Michigan's to have that 9-2 or 10-1 season you speak of.

Oh well...next week is SDSU...they've been known to come close to pulling off upsets in the past...hopefully we won't fall victim to them next Saturday. We ARE playing them at home so I'm not too worried...home field advantage in college football is a really big deal.

Go Blue!

 

[deschutes]

Glad to hear you both had a good weekend 😀

A girlfriend took me out and stuffed me at a restaurant of my choosing. I am much happier now 🙂 (It's partly the bellini and capp.)
It's good to have friends, good to have real food, wear dressy clothes and make-up again!

I'm off to watch Monty Python. Another of those old films I always meant to see but never did.

Man, how could I forget that THIS is what life is supposed to be like outside of Teams!!!

 

[yaah]

Which Monty Python? Holy Grail, I hope. The other movies, while entertaining in parts, are nothing like Holy Grail.

I have the entire Flying Circus (their TV show from the late 60s/early70s) on DVD. Fantastic. They were truly revolutionary.


Kenny Lust: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the refreshment room here at Bletchley. My name is Kenny Lust and I'm your comp?re for tonight. You know, once in a while it is my pleasure, and my privilege, to welcome here at the refreshment room, some of the truly great international artists of our time. And tonight we have one such artist. Ladies and gentlemen, someone whom I've always personally admired, perhaps more deeply, more strongly, more abjectly than ever before. A man... well, more than a man, a god, a great god, whose personality is so totally and utterly wonderful my feeble words of welcome sound wretchedly and pathetically inadequate. Someone whose boots I would gladly lick clean until holes wore through my tongue, a man who is so totally and utterly wonderful, that I would rather be sealed in a pit of my own filth than dare tread on the same stage with him! Ladies and gentlemen... the incomparably superior human being, Harry Fink!
Voice Offstage: He can't come!
Kenny Lust: Never mind, it's not all it's cracked up to be.


Interviewer : Good evening. I have with me in the studio tonight one of the country's leading skin specialists, Raymond Luxury Yacht.
Raymond Luxury Yacht : That's not my name!
Interviewer : [tries literal pronunciation] I'm sorry; Raymond Luxury Yatscht.
Raymond Luxury Yacht : No no no, it's spelled, "Raymond Luxury Yacht," but it's pronounced, "Throat Warbler Mangrove."

 

[deschutes]

Yes, the Holy Grail - a very recent acquisition of my housemate's.
(The DVD I mean. 😛 )

I never saw such earnestly organized silliness! 😀 😱

Cue Benedictine monks....
"pie Jesu Domine..." *thump*
"dona eis requiem..." *thump*

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yaah, for you I have a curious question: This talent that you have just displayed - re-enacting whole segments of movies word for word, with accurate tone of voice and turn of phrase and excellent comedic timing - what is it about guys that makes them able to do that??

Of course who am I to judge, never having met you in person 🙂 but it would not surprise me that you would be like these 3 guys I knew from back home, who would get together and be inspired to play off one another and I would laugh so hard that the lunches sitting in front of us become a secondary affair.

I'm not saying girls can't be comedic, but I've never seen a girl do this in particular.

Just another thing I find fascinating about guys 😉

 

[b&ierstiefel]

Ahh...the holy grail...one of my personal favorites. Can't even recount the number of times I've seen this movie since high school...

I love the whole coconut scene:

Castle guard: Halt! Who goes there?
King Arthur: It is I, Arthur...King of the Britons (he says a bunch of stuff but I can't remember all the detail)...and this is my trusty servant Patsy....I must speak with your lord and master.
Guard: What? Ridden on a horse?
Arthur: Yes.
Guard: You're using coconuts.
Arthur: What?
Guard: You've got two empty halves of coconut and you're bangin' 'em together. Where did you get the coconuts?
Arthur: We found them.
Guard: Found them? The coconut's tropical.
Arthur: What do you mean?
Guard: Well, this is a temperate zone.

then I love how this degenerates into the whole discussion regarding swallows:

Guard: Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
Arthur: Not at all. They could be carried.
...
Guard: What? A swallow carrying a coconut?
Arthur: It could grip it by the husk.
Guard: It's not a question of where he grips it. It's a simple question of weight ratios! A five (?) ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.

Gosh I wish I could put the pieces together but alas, my memory is not as good as yaah's. Hopefully I came close. Great scene, great movie...I feel as though I must watch it again soon.

I can imagine Pathology interviews and being asked the three questions: What is your name? What is your favorite color? What is your quest?

When I become a pathology attending, that is what I shall do when a young chap comes into my office seeking a residency position.

 

[yaah]

~
yaah, for you I have a curious question: This talent that you have just displayed - re-enacting whole segments of movies word for word, with accurate tone of voice and turn of phrase and excellent comedic timing - what is it about guys that makes them able to do that??

Of course who am I to judge, never having met you in person 🙂 but it would not surprise me that you would be like these 3 guys I knew from back home, who would get together and be inspired to play off one another and I would laugh so hard that the lunches sitting in front of us become a secondary affair.

Well, actually, I had some help with that one from the web. I wouldn't be able to quote that scene from memory. It's more of a generality that I remember. But there are many things that I do remember quite well. Brains are weird in what they remember. I just read most of a chapter on ovarian tumors the other day, and when I then saw a slide of one, I felt more clueless than I should have. But oh well. It is very fun to reference Monty Python though.

Andy, you could interview someone with the "Argument" sketch...

Man : Look, this isn't an argument.
Mr. Vibrating : Yes it is.
Man : No it isn't, it's just contradiction.
Mr. Vibrating : No it isn't.
Man : It is.
Mr. Vibrating : It is not.
Man : Look, you contradicted me.
Mr. Vibrating : I did not.
Man : Oh you did.
Mr. Vibrating : No, no, no.
Man : You did just then.
Mr. Vibrating : Nonsense.
Man : Oh, this is futile.
Mr. Vibrating : No it isn't.
Man : I came here for a good argument.
Mr. Vibrating : No, you didn't. No, you came here for an argument.
Man : An argument isn't just contradiction.
Mr. Vibrating : It can be.

 

[b&ierstiefel]

Andy, you could interview someone with the "Argument" sketch...

Man : Look, this isn't an argument.
Mr. Vibrating : Yes it is.
Man : No it isn't, it's just contradiction.
Mr. Vibrating : No it isn't.
Man : It is.
Mr. Vibrating : It is not.
Man : Look, you contradicted me.
Mr. Vibrating : I did not.
Man : Oh you did.
Mr. Vibrating : No, no, no.
Man : You did just then.
Mr. Vibrating : Nonsense.
Man : Oh, this is futile.
Mr. Vibrating : No it isn't.
Man : I came here for a good argument.
Mr. Vibrating : No, you didn't. No, you came here for an argument.
Man : An argument isn't just contradiction.
Mr. Vibrating : It can be.

LOL...who is Mr. Vibrating? Or is that something you made up? And what role would I have in this conversation? Man? or Mr. Vibrating?

It's kinda like the "Who's on first?" sketch.

 

[yaah]

That was the guy's name. Mr Vibrating. You could do that with

You: Well, here we are. How are you?
Interviewee: Fine. Hi.
You: Hi.
Interviewee: Is this an interview?
You: Isn't that what you're here for?
Interviewee: Aren't you supposed to ask me questions?
You: I already have.
Interviewee: No you haven't.
You: Yes I did.
Interviewee: This isn't an interview.
You: Yes it is.
Interviewee: No it isn't.
You: Yes it is.
Interviewee: Well I don't think I want to come here then.
You: Yes you do.

 

[b&ierstiefel]

cool...i shall save this in my repertoire.

Brilliant!

this guinness is for you.

 

[yaah]

I just heard the awful cliche again on tv, "No one smells the end zone like Priest Holmes." Well, the cliche doesn't always include Priest Holmes, but they like to use the phrase "Smelling the end zone" or "Smelling the first down markers." Bite me. The end zone has no odor. It is the least use plot of land on the football field and thus has the least odor. Perhaps one can smell the 40 yard line because that is where the lineman frequently squat and drip sweat. So perhaps one doesn't smell the end zone, one smells everything but the end zone.

I hate sports cliches.

My least favorite device that is over-used in sports is when they pluralize a player's name. Like, "The Tom Bradys and John Elways of the world" or "He got a chance to play with the Jerry Rices and the Tim Browns" or "He is right up there with the Hank Aarons and the Willie Mayses when it comes to home run prowess." There is only ONE of each of these players, ****sticks.

And sports broadcasters say "What a play" too much. What a play by Jackson. What a play by Smith. What a play by Jenkins. What does that mean? Is that even proper english? Can you diagram that sentence? I thought not.

 

[b&ierstiefel]

the more sports games i watch over my life, the more i realize that sportscasting and color commentating is not hard. a lot of what they say is so predictable i could even do the job! well not really 🙂

i guess not anyone can do this job well...i mean look at dennis miller!

just turned on the game after watching monty python for the um-teen thousandth time. it's looking like a good game is brewing.

 

[Stinger86]

Andy,

Your new avatar and "tagline" rock, man

 

[b&ierstiefel]

Andy,

Your new avatar and "tagline" rock, man

Thanks man.

Have you seen my baseball?

 

[b&ierstiefel]

oh yeah stinger, you know i was also searching for a picture of cartman in the special olympics south park episode. tried so hard to find it but was still unsuccessful. if anyone can get me a picture of cartman dressed up like the special olympics contestant (with the shoe, helmet, etc), i'll give you a cookie 🙂

 

[yaah]

oh yeah stinger, you know i was also searching for a picture of cartman in the special olympics south park episode. tried so hard to find it but was still unsuccessful. if anyone can get me a picture of cartman dressed up like the special olympics contestant (with the shoe, helmet, etc), i'll give you a cookie 🙂

I looked for ya, dude. But unsuccessful. I like Warren though.

Due to the magic of flying machines, I am now back in taxachusetts. How about that? Them Wright Brothers sure was on to something.

 

[deschutes]

You know that clock that went by two hours ago? That was your bedtime.

Why is everyone up so late on a weekday??

 

[yaah]

You know that clock that went by two hours ago? That was your bedtime.

Why is everyone up so late on a weekday??

I was traveling and had nothing to do today (thursday) except get a haircut and probably go to the red sox. So I stayed up past my bedtime.

So today I got my haircut and got Kelly's Roast Beef then I watched (again), on On Demand, that HBO movie Something the Lord Made about the Blalock-Taussig blue baby operations. I love that movie. Seen it a couple of times now. History is fascinating.

 

[b&ierstiefel]

I looked for ya, dude. But unsuccessful. I like Warren though.

Due to the magic of flying machines, I am now back in taxachusetts. How about that? Them Wright Brothers sure was on to something.

BOOYAH! Found it!

I'll still use Warren as my avatar but use the cartman pic as my profile picture

 

[yaah]

Where'd you find it? Cartman rules.

No kitty that's a bad kitty!!

 

[b&ierstiefel]

Where'd you find it? Cartman rules.

No kitty that's a bad kitty!!

yeah...it took me like half an hour...i mainly used google.

my first google search was "****** cartman"...that didn't work
my second google search was "special olympics cartman"...that didn't work
i tried several combinations of the above and related words...still no hits.

then i figured there must be an episode archive...so i searched the comedy central site to find the name of the episode. apparently, it was a season 8 episode called "up and down steroid"...so i google searched that.

on the second page of the search results, i found a site which led to this site:

http://www.southpark.dsl.pipex.com/images/epiimgs/803.shtml

whew....i'm spent.

still haven't found my baseball

 

[deschutes]

Why exactly are we all online on a lovely Friday evening??

 

[b&ierstiefel]

Usually we go out and occasionally get tanked on Friday nights...but my buddies and I decided not to go out tonight in light of our friend's recent hospitalization. He comes out with us every Friday night and it just felt weird to go party without him in the group.

I ended up taking a nap and woke up not too long ago...now my whole sleep schedule is screwed.

How did your first week of nephro go?

 

[deschutes]

Since my first week of Nephro went well, I feel qualified to NOT post in the Official Anti-Clinical Medicine Thread 😛

I've had 3 preceptors in four days (these seems to be a recurring theme with me 🙄 )
Currently my preceptor (till next Friday) is a very cool lady doc (I am just beginning to learn how cool) who spends 75% of her time running a renal transplant research lab.

I've given up trying to re-synch my sleep schedule. I sleep PRN - which lately hasn't been much!

 

[b&ierstiefel]

That's cool...glad you're week of nephro went well. You know, if you like nephro, you could go into IM, do a nephro fellowship, and be a nephrologist.

 

[deschutes]

That's cool...glad you're week of nephro went well. You know, if you like nephro, you could go into IM, do a nephro fellowship, and be a nephrologist.

One of us contemplated that path at one point in our lives - and it certainly wasn't me!

 

[b&ierstiefel]

Are you implying something? I know nothing of what you speak. 🙄

 

[deschutes]

Are you implying something? I know nothing of what you speak. 🙄

Implying? I am stating it!

How is your friend doing? Not too many medical students visiting, I hope?

 

[b&ierstiefel]

He got discharged early this morning on SQ lovenox and coumadin. He has gotten a lot better...he's starting to gain some sensation in his hand. He's in good spirits and is joking around.

I heard that a family member called his house for the first time since this all happened. He picks up the phone and does his ****** impression for several minutes! Then he says, "Just kidding!" The caller got really pissed and threatened to fly out here and personally kick his ass for scaring him like that.

He's got a long road to recovery but it's awesome that throughout all of this, he never lost his sense of humor.

 

[deschutes]

That is awesome to hear! (I had to Google Lovenox.)
I hope he does well.
I wish I had the necessary talent to do a ****** impression 😉

~
A classmate did some math today - our clerkship is 54 weeks long, not counting holidays at X'mas and at the end. We are now done with week 27.

Therefore we are halfway through.

"I am in blood
Stepp'd in so far that, should I wade no more,
Returning were as tedious as go o'er"
-Macbeth (IV,III)

From now on, he says, when a preceptor asks you how far along you are, instead of saying, "we're just starting clerkship," you can now say, "we're just finishing clerkship."

 

[b&ierstiefel]

That is awesome to hear! (I had to Google Lovenox.)
I hope he does well.
I wish I had the necessary talent to do a ****** impression 😉

I do both ****** and cartman impressions. Haven't done the ****** impression in a while...it's generally not cool to do that in public without looking like a complete jackass 😀

A classmate did some math today - our clerkship is 54 weeks long, not counting holidays at X'mas and at the end. We are now done with week 27.

I'm sorry

 

[deschutes]

Hey, in 3rd year do you guys put in orders? It seems to me that although we don't have sub-I's here, we're being asked to perform at the level of a sub-I from the moment we start clerkships.

I hear that at the U of Iowa, med students don't write progress notes on medico-legal grounds.

 

[QuietSylph]

Hey, in 3rd year do you guys put in orders? It seems to me that although we don't have sub-I's here, we're being asked to perform at the level of a sub-I from the moment we start clerkships.

I hear that at the U of Iowa, med students don't write progress notes on medico-legal grounds.

How appealing--no notes. Maybe I should have transferred to Iowa before 3rd year.

At my school, we usually did not input orders as 3rd years unless the resident/intern(s) had gone to cover clinic or something. If that was the case, the attendings inevitably expected we would know exactly what to do, whether or not we had been shown the details of the order protocol at that particular hospital. Of course, this resulted in the students looking like idiots... but that wasn't anything new. 😛

 

[b&ierstiefel]

Hey, in 3rd year do you guys put in orders? It seems to me that although we don't have sub-I's here, we're being asked to perform at the level of a sub-I from the moment we start clerkships.

I hear that at the U of Iowa, med students don't write progress notes on medico-legal grounds.

Notes are fine as long as they don't have to be the long, drawn-out, M3 versions of notes that not many people read anyways. It might be a good idea to write some notes as a student so that when he/she becomes an intern, he/she will have some experience doing so.

Oh but wait...we won't be interns! Haha! OK I propose a new rule...future pathology medical students should not have to write notes .

Tangent: Michigan just edged out a non-ranked, non-conference opponent...I fear the future of the Wolverine football team as Big Ten play commences. 🙁

 

[yaah]

Hmmm...I heard about that Michigan game. Didn't see that one coming. I am weddinged out (new word created). Yesterday was rehearsal, today was event. Picture if you will a picturesque outdoor setting on the north shore of boston, waves crashing against the rocks, a lighthouse off the point, an outdoor wedding against a seaside backdrop, with a nice tent off to the side to hold the reception. Then picture if you will the remnants of ****ing Hurricane Ivan deciding to dump multiple inches of rainwater.

Actually though, the rain stopped by mid afternoon and while the ceremony had to be moved indoors, the reception was still in the tent and everything went smashingly. Perhaps the weather gods took pity. They needed to take pity on me though. There was only one other person at this wedding who was single (although the maid of honor seemed to put up a good facade and, if my spider sense was right, was sort of coming on to me before her boyfriend returned from wherever he had been hiding, and at this point she was wearing my coat). And this other person was ahem, needless to say, not my type (the maid of honor, sad to say, was. But I don't mess with other peoples' relationships, superficial and doomed as they may be). But it was fun nonetheless - the groom was my oldest friend in the world and the band played many a great 80s hit.

 

[b&ierstiefel]

Just got back from watching the Hopkins/de la Hoya fight...gawd did that fight suck or what? Somebody needed to step it up and make a difference but all it took was a weak "liver" shot...won't say who won cuz I don't wanna ruin it for anyone. I'm sure people will hear all about it tonight or tomorrow.

 

[deschutes]

But I don't mess with other peoples' relationships... But it was fun nonetheless.

You and me both.

I spent the evening with the house elective student who wanted to see the city. The city being the big small town that it is, we ended up going clothes-shopping at a mall.
(He bought, I didn't - after a year I am STILL having difficulty finding an interview-style winter wool coat in my size! Ah the futility of looking for clothes in a country where "average" is 3 sizes larger than you...)

He wants to do Internal, but respects Path. Too bad he's taken - he's CBC, likes Thai (and seafood!) and plays an awesome guitar.
But it was fun nonetheless 😉

 

[deschutes]

How appealing--no notes. Maybe I should have transferred to Iowa before 3rd year.

No kidding. I was told that on their surgery rotation, the med students get to go study. STUDY!! What a foreign word.

Though I whine loud and long about it, I agree with Andy - writing notes is good practice. And if notes are a pain to a med student, then my sympathies to poor UIowa interns who have to write them all because med students don't!

Yes, our clerk orders have to be "activated" on the computer system - which is akin to a resident's co-signing them, except for the fact that it takes longer to log on to the computer system to check them off than to actually ink a scribble. Gee whiz, and they thought they had a solution this time.

 

[yaah]

Just got back from watching the Hopkins/de la Hoya fight...gawd did that fight suck or what? Somebody needed to step it up and make a difference but all it took was a weak "liver" shot...won't say who won cuz I don't wanna ruin it for anyone. I'm sure people will hear all about it tonight or tomorrow.

What in the name of all that is holy are you doing watching the "sport" known as boxing? It is an abomination on our culture, worse than pro wrestling and the WNBA.

I used to be somewhat amused by boxing, but no longer. The fact that people gamble on two men pummeling each other is a little weird. I could understand if the pummelers were betting on the fight, but not interested observers. I would never wager money on the outcome of a fight between two people with probable brain damage and certainly questionable career choices.

Andy, can you explain to me what in the name of the flying wallendas possesses people to get dressed up in tuxedos in order to broadcast or comment on a boxing match? This ranks right up there with the strangest customs in our recorded history. Yes, we are going to sit around and watch two shirtless man whup on each other until they are both bleeding, have lost some teeth, broken their noses, and can no longer see or digest food due to the punishment. And in between rounds they will be swishing water in their mouths to remove the blood, spitting it out, dripping body fluids all over the canvas, and their handlers will be cursing and equally filthy. Be sure to dress up!

And boxing should have only one weight class. None of this "middleweight, bantamweight (what is bantamweight?), featherweight (if you are being called a featherweight, IMHO you should not be making a living by fighting others. They outlawed midget wrestling because it was insensitive, didn't they?), cruiserweight (???), lightweight, light heavyweight, heavyweight, etc...) There should be one class. If you're not big enough to beat the toughest guys, then tough cookies. It's a fight. In the real world, "pick on someone your own size" doesn't cut it, so why should it in organized sports? May the best man win. I would have more respect for boxing if they dismissed these weight classes.

And there shouldn't be different title-awarding agencies. There should be one title. As if it could be more unimportant who the world featherweight champion is, there are actually 3 of them, right? IBC, IBF, WBC (probably wrong on the acronyms).

Hey, I'm the world featherweight champion!
Congratulations, scrawny, now go get me some lemonade before I beat you up.

 

[b&ierstiefel]

What in the name of all that is holy are you doing watching the "sport" known as boxing? It is an abomination on our culture, worse than pro wrestling and the WNBA.

Hey! Don't diss WNBA...those women are hot! Even hotter than Jennie Finch! Recudnize!

Boxing for me is fine in limited doses. It isn't by any means one of my favorite sports but when two high profile boxers duke it out in the ring on PPV and my friend invites me to watch, of course I'm gonna watch. And it was another excuse to have a few brews with friends I haven't seen in a while.

I used to be somewhat amused by boxing, but no longer. The fact that people gamble on two men pummeling each other is a little weird. I could understand if the pummelers were betting on the fight, but not interested observers. I would never wager money on the outcome of a fight between two people with probable brain damage and certainly questionable career choices.

I agree that gambling on sports (except for NCAA March Madness) is stupid. None of us had money on the fight. Hence we were not stupid.

Andy, can you explain to me what in the name of the flying wallendas possesses people to get dressed up in tuxedos in order to broadcast or comment on a boxing match? This ranks right up there with the strangest customs in our recorded history. Yes, we are going to sit around and watch two shirtless man whup on each other until they are both bleeding, have lost some teeth, broken their noses, and can no longer see or digest food due to the punishment. And in between rounds they will be swishing water in their mouths to remove the blood, spitting it out, dripping body fluids all over the canvas, and their handlers will be cursing and equally filthy. Be sure to dress up!

Bah! It's just another excuse for rich people to tell the world they're rich. Hey let's make an expensive event that only us rich snobs can watch...then to rub it in further, we'll actually attend the event in $2000 suits. Then there are the commentators and broadcasters...they're the rich snob wannabes who wear the imitation $2000 suits that really cost about three-fitty.

And boxing should have only one weight class. None of this "middleweight, bantamweight (what is bantamweight?), featherweight (if you are being called a featherweight, IMHO you should not be making a living by fighting others. They outlawed midget wrestling because it was insensitive, didn't they?), cruiserweight (???), lightweight, light heavyweight, heavyweight, etc...) There should be one class. If you're not big enough to beat the toughest guys, then tough cookies. It's a fight. In the real world, "pick on someone your own size" doesn't cut it, so why should it in organized sports? May the best man win. I would have more respect for boxing if they dismissed these weight classes.

Ha! That's what I would expect to hear from a tall guy like you. You probably beat up on short kids like me didn't ya?

That's right damnit! Pick on kids your own size. Speaking of midget wrestling, I was so bummed when they outlawed it. That was a huge source of income for me back in the day.

 

[deschutes]

I never watch wrestling. It affects my delicate sensibilities.

Actually, it is an interesting Psych exercise. I used to think it was stupidity combined with herd mentality and monetary gain, but having read Robert Bly's "Iron John" I suspect Bly would argue that for lack of ever having been initiated into adult manhood do these men-wrestlers continue to do this - victims of a force stronger than mere stupidity.

 

[b&ierstiefel]

I never watch wrestling. It affects my delicate sensibilities.

WWF wrestling is silly in my mind. However, mud-wrestling.....

 

[yaah]

I never watch wrestling. It affects my delicate sensibilities.

Actually, it is an interesting Psych exercise. I used to think it was stupidity combined with herd mentality and monetary gain, but having read Robert Bly's "Iron John" I suspect Bly would argue that for lack of ever having been initiated into adult manhood do these men-wrestlers continue to do this - victims of a force stronger than mere stupidity.

Actually, Robert Bly had a brief stint in the WWF under the pseudonym "EL PLANCHARADORE MYSTERIOSO" but his career went downhill when he was hit by a folding chair, knocked out, and dumped in a garbage bin. They lost all respect for him them because he wouldn't retaliate in kind.

 

[deschutes]

Actually, Robert Bly had a brief stint in the WWF under the pseudonym "EL PLANCHARADORE MYSTERIOSO" but his career went downhill when he was hit by a folding chair, knocked out, and dumped in a garbage bin. They lost all respect for him them because he wouldn't retaliate in kind.

My understanding is that he was under the influence of alcohol when he acquiesced to that ridiculous bet. Good thing he came to when in the can.

 

[yaah]

Deschutes (or anyone) how do you tell if a girl is hitting on you? Some people have been quite friendly to me lately. One even sent me a picture of a girl wearing lingerie (it wasn't her though - it was because of a conversation we were having).

Girls are weird. Girls will come up to you, grab your butt, and then when you ask them out they say, "no, I just want to be friends." 😉

 

[deschutes]

Deschutes (or anyone) how do you tell if a girl is hitting on you? Some people have been quite friendly to me lately.

Well really, I've never been hit on by a girl, so I honestly would not know 😉

But all kidding aside... we have here one of my favourite topics of conversation. Right up there with food!

My relationships have all been somewhat atypical. I know lots of people claim this, but I stand by the fact that mine are more atypical than most - so atypical that they are undefined... even years later.

I don't understand girlie-girls all that well - I was never one. So if those are your type, I cannot help you there. I'm sure you could get lots of help from women's magazines though 😛

I think that if she is spending more time than necessary or usual in your company, then she is probably attracted - whatever she says.

I would turn the question back on you - how do I tell if a guy my age is hitting on me?

 

[yaah]

I would turn the question back on you - how do I tell if a guy my age is hitting on me?

1) He will keep showing up in places you are at.
2) He may ask you questions with obvious answers because he doesn't know what else to say to you.
3) Whenever you look at him he is looking back at you (or in the process of glancing away).
4) He sends you a naked picture of himself.

Girlie girls are ok, I don't really have a type. I like people who are intelligent, funny, and not afraid to NOT take themselves seriously. I guess I'm like my friend whose wedding I was just at - he said at the wedding that he knew he was going to like the girl when she showed up for their first date and made fun of the clothes he was wearing. Not that I necessarily enjoy being made the object of ridicule, but if it's all in good fun, I enjoy it. But I only date lingerie models, hence my perpetual singledom because all the lingerie models live in warm weather climates. 😉

I also like people who are independent and have a brain of their own. I'm not incredibly picky though. As long as someone has enough of a brain, likes to laugh, and believes cheating on someone is a bad thing (and not "a momentary weakness,") we can generally do business. I believe loyalty and respect are important characteristics.

But see, it's hard to tell. Because some people are just friendly with everyone

 

[deschutes]

In other words, we make fools of ourselves? 😉

I dunno. Some people are SO much better at looking nonchalant than others. Why they would though, is a whole new ballgame - and that's where everyone gets confused.

I guess my idea of girlie-girls was not those who wear pink dresses, but the species that giggles and herds and coos. Personally, they drive me nuts - I have a visceral reaction to the estrogen.

Looks and personality, humour and a mind of their own - I think everyone looks for these. But what sort of looks, what sort of personality, what sort of humour and what sort of mind... infinite variation thereof. And that's what makes people so fascinating.

Yes, some people are just friendly with everyone. I've learnt to stop reading too much into things or extrapolating into the future... and instead just sit and enjoy the pleasure of the other's company.

It is an oddly intense yet quiet sort of pleasure.

 

[yaah]

Looks and personality, humour and a mind of their own - I think everyone looks for these. But what sort of looks, what sort of personality, what sort of humour and what sort of mind... infinite variation thereof. And that's what makes people so fascinating.

Yeah, but there are so many people who just have no clue. Distinctly unfunny and uninteresting. I guess it is all about perspective though. I have no doubt some people find me dull and boring, and that's fine. I don't expect to get along with everyone.

But yes there is an infinite variation to the human experience as well as the human perspective. For instance, despite my disbelief, some people actually do enjoy listening to Celine Dion and Britney Spears, and buy magazines to find out what kind of trash they are throwing out.