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Caiter92 said:
This was not the election for people to make a political statement. If the vote hadn't been split, this wouldn't be happening.
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I was just thinking about that, actually. Damn spoiler effect. There are several states where Clinton would've won if the third-party votes weren't split. Urgh.
 
WildZoo said:
Wait, can this happen just so the crazy universe we're living in could be complete?
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If McMullin wins Utah (very unlikely) and the house of reps goes for him over Trump (even unlikelier), then yeah, he could become president.

That's not even the craziest scenario! If Trump and Clinton tied in the electoral college and democrats won the senate, we'd probably have a President Trump and Vice President Tim Kaine.
 
TrashPanda said:
If McMullin wins Utah (very unlikely) and the house of reps goes for him over Trump (even unlikelier), then yeah, he could become president.

That's not even the craziest scenario! If Trump and Clinton tied in the electoral college and democrats won the senate, we'd probably have a President Trump and Vice President Tim Kaine.
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Oh America lol
 
Bottle of Bear said:
Don't blame the people, blame the parties for trotting such horrid creatures out as their candidates.
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And the media for portraying them as equally horrid. But also the people, since they're the ones who actually voted.
 
Bottle of Bear said:
Don't blame the people, blame the parties for trotting such horrid creatures out as their candidates.
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This. I get why the idea of "splitting the vote" seems so important to people, but I did not feel relatively comfortable for standing with either POTUS candidate. That is why I voted third party, voted for a candidate that I believed in and morally felt I could support. And I refuse to feel guilty for doing so because of a political system's failures.
 
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I don't blame people for voting third party. Honestly truly don't. I mean, some of those votes would have gone for Trump and some would have gone for Clinton if there were no other options, so I don't know if it makes as much of a difference as people think. Our problem really isn't that we have too many options.
 
Gwenevre said:
This. I get why the idea of "splitting the vote" seems so important to people, but I did not feel relatively comfortable for standing with either POTUS candidate. That is why I voted third party, voted for a candidate that I believed in and morally felt I could support. And I refuse to feel guilty for doing so because of a political system's failures.
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Absolutely. I did the same.
 
Bottle of Bear said:
Don't blame the people, blame the parties for trotting such horrid creatures out as their candidates.
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Gwenevre said:
This. I get why the idea of "splitting the vote" seems so important to people, but I did not feel relatively comfortable for standing with either POTUS candidate. That is why I voted third party, voted for a candidate that I believed in and morally felt I could support. And I refuse to feel guilty for doing so because of a political system's failures.
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Oh, no, I'm really not blaming you guys. I'm blaming the system. It's absolutely ludicrous that we as voters can't even feel comfortable voting for who we actually want without worrying about spoiler effect.
 
WildZoo said:
When CNN's like "DUN DUN DUN PROJECTION!!!" but it's just to announce that Clinton gets Washington or Trump gets Georgia. Like, omg, so much drama, such surprise.
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And yet I am still watching CNN.

Mostly because CBS used the phrase "get out from under Donald" more than once and I couldn't handle it
 
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Independent, but I love this gif
 
cowgirla said:
And yet I am still watching CNN.

Mostly because CBS used the phrase "get out from under Donald" more than once and I couldn't handle it
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I'm watching for the Silver Fox and his Wolf buddy
 
It's interesting, I actually expected to see a higher percentage in the 3rd party votes because of how much chatter there was but I guess my facebook news feed is a biased sample 😉 Looks like it'll be the usual low single digits.
 
Trilt said:
Cool. I just hope people are content with the decision, whatever it ends up being (Trump or Hillary), if they voted 3rd party. Because you decided to vote for someone who didn't have a chance.
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Because as this election showed, it's so wonderful to have two choices for president. And if the 3rd party gets enough votes they can get federal funding.
 
Trilt said:
Cool. I just hope people are content with the decision, whatever it ends up being (Trump or Hillary), if they voted 3rd party. Because you decided to vote for someone who didn't have a chance.
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I will gladly bear whatever consequences come from my vote, because whether I voted 3rd party or not, I think the end result would have been the same.
 
Bottle of Bear said:
Because as this election showed, it's so wonderful to have two choices for president. And if the 3rd party gets enough votes they can get federal funding.
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Eh. As a practical person, I know that the reverberations from the supreme court justices appointed during this election will impact our rights and laws for decades. And I live in a swing state, so it's a sore spot for me.
 
WildZoo said:
It's interesting, I actually expected to see a higher percentage in the 3rd party votes because of how much chatter there was but I guess my facebook news feed is a biased sample 😉 Looks like it'll be the usual low single digits.
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Yeah, I was expecting a lot more third party votes. Facebook is so unreliable. 🙄

According to my Facebook feed, Hilary should have been a landslide victory.
 
According to my workplace and family, Trump should have closed it by now. According to my FB, Hillary should be winning, with a solid serving of Johnson.

It's so, so close. Gonna be caffeinating a lot tomorrow...
 
I'm getting sleepy. But I want to know the results...
 
In regards to splitting the vote:
I don't think 3rd parties have enough support down there to justify blaming them for the results. Yes votes matter, but there are way more factors that played a much larger role. Honestly not splitting the vote is one of the advantages of the two-party system.

It is very different up here, because the "third parties" (in reality just more major parties) have enough support to be legitimately competitive. A major concern with the last election was that you either voted conservative or for 1 of the Liberal-Green-NDP; overall the number of people voted not-Conservative was high, but individually for each party Conservatives could have had the most. Clearly that ended up not being a concern because of Liberal landslide, but I know many Green/NDP voters who strategically voted Liberal because they didn't want Conservative again
 
I kind of want to stay awake, and I kind of really don't.
 
BeautifulBritishColumbia said:
I'd say it depends on what time you have class in the morning
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I don't. We're on our small group PBL (sort of) week, my group doesn't meet until 1. Technically I don't have to be at school until noon, but parking is an issue and I do have to do some research on my assigned topic for the case before the meeting.
 
cowgirla said:
My first farm call isnt until 10a. hence why I am still drinking,
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WildZoo said:
I don't. We're on our small group PBL (sort of) week, my group doesn't meet until 1. Technically I don't have to be at school until noon, but parking is an issue and I do have to do some research on my assigned topic for the case before the meeting.
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Well, I would say you can both stay up for a while longer then. It's only 12:30 (if I guessed what time zone you guys are in correctly)

Cowgirla: beer, wine, or hard liquor?
 
BeautifulBritishColumbia said:
Well, I would say you can both stay up for a while longer then. It's only 12:30 (if I guessed what time zone you guys are in correctly)

Cowgirla: beer, wine, or hard liquor?
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12:30 is about 90 minutes past my bed time.

And I started with beer. But then I ran out and switched to tequila.
 
PrincessButterCup said:
Yeah, I was expecting a lot more third party votes. Facebook is so unreliable. 🙄

According to my Facebook feed, Hilary should have been a landslide victory.
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I had quite a bit of Trump, but every place I've lived has been a very gun happy, intolerant little part of the world.
 
If this thought helps anyone. America is becoming progressively more educated with each generation, but especially ours, we are becoming more racially diverse and not just white. In a few years something like this may not even be possible anymore. I'm trying to focus on this as being one last push from *that* part of America before it no longer becomes possible, we have to live with four years of it, but in the time scale of things, it's so small.
 
Is this a ****ing joke?!

I have a 7 AM anatomy final tomorrow. It's worth 40% of our grade. Please donate all flower funds for my funeral to the local humane society.
 
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