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  1. Caiter92

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    I'm gonna be real sad when I don't have as good of a discount as I had as a VA as a vet lol

    Free exams, 50% off all surgeries and services, at cost + 10% for all lab work and meds. Worked out to anywhere from a 50-70% discount on things. It was beautiful lol
     
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    Banfield was free for most things because they gave us up to 3 free wellness plans, and you could do the highest level of you wanted. Anything not included in the plan was 20% off. I guess that was worth selling my soul for a little while ;)
     
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    I never want to work for a banfield for various reasons, but if I ever end up at one, at least I get almost free Vet care :laugh:
     
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    The highest level plan was 2 physical exams, one in house CBC/Chem, two fecals, all vaccines, tonometry, and a dental which includes another set of bloodwork. Then a set of rads for dogs and a T4 for cats. Free ear swab on your first plan. All things were supposed to be used preventatively but we would definitely game the system to use them if the pet was sick or had a problem (like we would hang onto the rads until their second visit in case something came up). Sometimes got in trouble for it but meh.

    I hate that I still remember all of that lol
    Some things may have changed by now since I worked for them 3 years ago.
     
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    Through IDEXX you do.
     
  6. DVMDream

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    Not necessarily, just as we were mentioning that every clinic is charged differently based upon their contract with the lab. This is also part of the contract. If the clinic doesn't have enough business sent through Idexx, they do not receive this discount.
     
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  7. DVMDream

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    And all their in-house machines read blood wrong. Every single one and they have known it is a problem for a while, but meh, after years, they are just now slowly replacing the machines. Don't get me started on all the issues I have seen in clinics, corporate or otherwise.
     
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    Oh and can't forget that not every vet works for a clinic that has Idexx available. Industry vets, lab vets, relief vets, vets who work at clinics contracted with Antech or another lab instead, etc.... they can't just send blood to Idexx for free.
     
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    Huh. That’s interesting. I didn’t know that. I did know that there was a minimum number of labs that you had to send out to get certain benefits though. I think for my hospital it’s like an average of 4 labs per day.
     
  10. DVMDream

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    My own cat's bloodwork is coming due and even with my friend giving me a discount, it'll still cost ~$200ish.... which I'm fine with, but not all vets are getting free bloodwork.
     
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    Might explain why my kitty didn't get her CKD diagnosis until she got bloodwork done at school
     
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    Right? I need to reschedule Cheese for a follow-up chem and UA
     
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    Damn. That’s still a lot. My boss and I are pretty close and he’s the kind of guy who if he can give you something for free he will. One woman he worked with years ago went once to become a vet and she was giving her dog experimental bone grafts. She called him up after not seeing him for years and asked if she could get x rays and rebandage his legs. He said okay and ended up just not charging her for it. I’m sure he’d let me do that down the road.
     
  14. DVMDream

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    It was more just always reading ALP/ALT high and every hematocrit being like >60%... annoying crap. I'd have to explain constantly "this could just be sample hemloysis/lab error or real, we should send out or recheck in a month." They'd also refuse us to send out for conformation if the machines were being off, which was frustrating because that didn't cost them anything.
     
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    We used antech where I worked before vet school and dr’s got free bloodwork for their pets. I’m sure it’s a similar deal to idexx and varies by clinic/location.
     
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    It varies. One clinic I was at it was all staff got free labwork, another was just doctors, other clinics you just get a percent off. It gets a bit tricky because you also have to add in the government and taxes. Employees can get up to a 20% discount anything above that must be reported as additional income and you are taxed on it. So just keep that in mind when looking at a job that offers a 75% employee discount... 20% of that will really be "free" the other 55% is considered income and is taxed.
     
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    Huh, that’s interesting. We didn’t get a mark off on our invoices or anything, things were just literally entered into the computer as the employee pricing, and it worked out to the 50-70%. Wonder if that’s a work around.
     
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    I just know that one clinic I worked for wasn't reporting that extra above the 20% and, well, they finally got a big hit via taxes once it was noticed.
     
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    But was that extra marked on an invoice as a discount? I’m just curious if they were reporting that.
     
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    I honestly can't explain details on it as I wasn't there and can't recall what our receipts looked like. I just know that they definitely made a big point about it in their contract as most people just see "75% discount" and don't think about the rest. Where as prior to them getting "caught" they weren't reporting that additional 55% as income for each employee.
     
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    I know my hospital gets we get x amount of free labwork per year as a hospital. It's not geared towards certain staff or limited to like 1 panel/pet, at least as far as I know. Once we hit that amount, then there are fees and the free labwork is only for like CBC/Chem/T4/UA/HWT type stuff. Anything beyond that like urine cultures, cytology, extensive thyroid panels, etc has a fee. I do think our Antech fees are reasonable but that's mainly because our specific staff and that we have an Antech employee on site 5 days a week and a ridiculous caseload.
     
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    I'm a vet - where do I get my free bloodwork?? Lolol.
     
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    Yah, I always paid for mine, just discounted 25%. haha
     
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    Ours is usually 50% off, but still not free.
     
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    My community practice clinician was against free anyway. He said it went against profits for the business, and that money should go to production so your pay is higher. haha
     
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    Work at a small practice that does a lot of labwork. My practice gets free bloodwork for vets through IDEXX.
     
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    I doubt that's universal, even for small practices ;)
     
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    Damn, I guess that's a check in the GP column - might get free bloodwork

    But nah. Still not worth it. :p
     
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    Like DVMDream said, it’s usually a perk related to hitting goals. It can probably be universal as long as the office manager asks the rep about it and is adamant about it. My last office manager could get pretty much anything he wanted. It was almost like a super power.
     
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    We get free labwork from both Idexx and Antech for DVM pets, 50% off for staff pets. No limits, not related to any goals. We rarely use Idexx (only for things they offer than Antech doesn't since they don't have courier service in our area), so I was pretty impressed that they still give discounts. Basically anything that gets run through a machine- CBC/Chem/lytes, ua, thyroid, clotting factors, cortisol, progesterone. It comes in handy for my crazy creatures :) I think things like histopath and cytologies are discounted a little but not as heavily.
     
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    You know how dogs often look like they’re smiling when they’re actually very stressed and anxious? I feel like some breeds of dog that are more expressive than others (like golden retrievers) actually smile when they’re happy as well. Does anyone have some insight on this?
     
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    For the record, Loveland the town and Loveland Ski area are separate things a couple hours away from each other. But yes, both are nice.
     
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    Our golden, Sam, would smile his head off when he was happy. If he was anxious or stressed, the ears would go back, and he definitely was NOT smiling. But, you know, just one out of how many? I am sure that there are those that don't, and those that do. I personally feel that Sam was a special boy. :)
     
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    I know a yorkie that smiles when he’s happy. Actually I know two yorkies that do this.
     
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    here is our Sam...
     

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    I feel like they do smile. But I see it more around the eyes - they just relax a bit more when they’re happy. I notice it most when discharging surgical patients to their owners. Such a happy reunion!
     
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    Agree with others above that there are differences between the happy "smile" vs anxious/stressed out of their minds "smile."

    There are other body language cues that can help you figure out what might be going on, too -- a "smile" of either sort is generally accompanied by other signs.
     
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    You know how when people see the price for their visit on their invoice they say something like “I’m gonna have to make fluffy get a job!”? Today one of our clients actually went through with that and inquired about having her dog become a goose chaser. They have an interview tomorrow.
     
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    LOL
     
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    I wouldn't be so surprised. Lab costs can vary quite a bit between hospitals. Like between two hospitals I work at that are within 20 min drive from each other, the CBC/superchem/T4/UA/HWT packages are $300+ and $100...

    In the first practice, there isn't a panel under $140 (cbc/chem5)

    It's a matter of what package deals the hospital can make with the lab and what markup they decide to use.
     
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    My dogs totally smile when they are happy!
     

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    Went and saw Isn't It Romantic today with my mom. It was…beguiling. ;)
     
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    Oh my god. This is so dark and I love it :laugh:
     
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