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Bottle of Bear said:
Send pictures (or picture) of what he can expect when he gets back to the States. Not sure what type of relationship you two have, but you can make it suggestive yet tasteful (if you're comfortable with that). Heads up though he'll expect everything in that photo when he gets home.
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EngrSC said:
A friend of mine did this when her husband was overseas. She had tasteful but risqué pictures taken then made a 12 month calendar out of them. He LOVED it!
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pinkpuppy9 said:
@LyraGardenia Boudoir pics. seriously. They're tasteful (normally) and really pretty, and most photographers will work around your comfort zone. I never did them myself, but I've had several friends do a shoot and they've all turned out beautifully.

I also planned on something like this at some point: http://lovebookonline.com/ and there's loads of variations on that as well, but shipping may be an issue.

The only thing I'd possibly look into a bit is what ramifications you may face for sending certain types of pictures/videos to China. Their laws regarding the subject are vague, but they still do quite a bit of censorship over there last I heard (I had a buddy over there a few years back who complained...). Even if they went through, it'd be weird to think that someone somewhere may have had to approve your private photos, or that they went through some database or something....idk. Food for thought.
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BeautifulBritishColumbia said:
I second this; I think they look far better than any other kind of photo. And if they ever happened to get out to the wrong set of eyes, you (usually anyway) have enough clothing on for it to not be scandalous.

I've never had them done myself, but I have done a few boudoir-style shoots for friends. Every time was really fun to do, people can really express themselves through them.
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This is really off-topic at this point, but thanks for the input everyone! Not to get too TMI, but I think I am going to do something along those lines. I can't afford to hire a professional photographer, and I doubt I could find one available within the next week, but I'll fake it lol. He's actually taken some boudoir photos of me before (he's a semi-professional photographer), but I'm sure he won't complain regardless haha.

I am also sad, angry and disappointed in the results of this election. I was so hopeful, I knew maybe two people who voted for Trump (but I know my Facebook feed is biased). I've had two glasses of wine and two margaritas tonight, so that numbs the pain a bit. I'll be going to bed very soon though, it's basically decided unless a miracle occurs.
 
I'm honestly just a little... hurt. As an immigrant, a woman, a member of the lgbt community. So many people voting for someone who constantly spews vitriol towards huge swathes of the population. It disappoints me, and makes me sad, and makes me question my neighbors. And I know people have hundreds of different reasons for their voting decisions, but truly, it just feels like a bit of a kick in the face.

Gotta get my three hours of sleep I guess. Try not to dream of "Lock Her Up" chants.

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I wrote a whole thing, when I woke up at 2 am, about what I am afraid this means for me and my family... but it didn't send. I will take it.

I would rather you know that I have hope.
 
Trump's campaign was pure theater. Why would a reality TV star who had the metrics showing that his brash style works change a thing?

I still don't condone lots of what he said, to make it clear. His acceptance speech was an immediate change of tone though.
 
Seeing as I might be the only person posting on this thread who voted Republican, I thought it might be enlightening for you to hear why I voted for Trump.

I think we can all agree that both candidates are extremely flawed personally. Trump has got one heck of a potty mouth and is unstable, and Clinton's numerous legal issues cast serious doubts on her as a president. I don't really think you can make a case for either candidate based purely on them personally. You have to willfully ignore one person's failings while attacking the other's. My logic class told me that's a terrible argument. You also can't put their failings on a balance and say one is worse than the other, because my system of judging the scales is going to be very different than your system. We'd just end up chasing each other in circles.

What I voted for was an ideology. Though I do not trust Trump to uphold what he says he represents, I do trust Clinton to do what she said she would do. I am pro-life (#1 priority), take an originalist view of the Constitution, think that the federal government needs to shrink, and fall mostly in line with traditional conservative views. I would much rather have had Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, or Ben Carson representing my views. I could either cry about Trump taking the nomination or take a chance that he'd actually represent my views like he promised. Honestly, I think Trump is a douche. But I took the chance and will accept responsibility for my vote if it turns out badly.

If you voted for Clinton (or any of the other candidates) based on ideology, I disagree, but respect you thinking through your views and voting based on what you believe is best for America. It is the give and take between ideologies that has made America what it is. No one system has overruled the other for long, and it helps to balance the extremes that either might go to. Our system of government is the greatest in the history of the world. Why? Because the decisions made in one climate have checks, balances, and are able to be reversed.

This is not the end of America. Don't buy into the sensationalism. All my conservative friends and family said the world was going to end when Obama got elected. It didn't. It didn't end when he got reelected, either. It's not going to end because Trump got elected, and it wouldn't have if Clinton won. In another 4 years, you'll have another chance to express your views and try to change things to the way you see fit.

I have a lot more thoughts, but more than I have the time or the inclination to type out. Just don't stereotype Trump voters as racist, sexist, uncouth immigrant haters who don't think through the issues. And I'll promise not to stereotype Clinton voters as baby-killing, freedom-hating, socialist cry-babies who vote based on their emotions.
 
love2hunt said:
Seeing as I might be the only person posting on this thread who voted Republican, I thought it might be enlightening for you to hear why I voted for Trump.

I think we can all agree that both candidates are extremely flawed personally. Trump has got one heck of a potty mouth and is unstable, and Clinton's numerous legal issues cast serious doubts on her as a president. I don't really think you can make a case for either candidate based purely on them personally. You have to willfully ignore one person's failings while attacking the other's. My logic class told me that's a terrible argument. You also can't put their failings on a balance and say one is worse than the other, because my system of judging the scales is going to be very different than your system. We'd just end up chasing each other in circles.

What I voted for was an ideology. Though I do not trust Trump to uphold what he says he represents, I do trust Clinton to do what she said she would do. I am pro-life (#1 priority), take an originalist view of the Constitution, think that the federal government needs to shrink, and fall mostly in line with traditional conservative views. I would much rather have had Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, or Ben Carson representing my views. I could either cry about Trump taking the nomination or take a chance that he'd actually represent my views like he promised. Honestly, I think Trump is a douche. But I took the chance and will accept responsibility for my vote if it turns out badly.

If you voted for Clinton (or any of the other candidates) based on ideology, I disagree, but respect you thinking through your views and voting based on what you believe is best for America. It is the give and take between ideologies that has made America what it is. No one system has overruled the other for long, and it helps to balance the extremes that either might go to. Our system of government is the greatest in the history of the world. Why? Because the decisions made in one climate have checks, balances, and are able to be reversed.

This is not the end of America. Don't buy into the sensationalism. All my conservative friends and family said the world was going to end when Obama got elected. It didn't. It didn't end when he got reelected, either. It's not going to end because Trump got elected, and it wouldn't have if Clinton won. In another 4 years, you'll have another chance to express your views and try to change things to the way you see fit.

I have a lot more thoughts, but more than I have the time or the inclination to type out. Just don't stereotype Trump voters as racist, sexist, uncouth immigrant haters who don't think through the issues. And I'll promise not to stereotype Clinton voters as baby-killing, freedom-hating, socialist cry-babies who vote based on their emotions.
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Respect.
 
I think it's the anti-Muslim thing that bothers me the most out of anything Trump has said and done, mostly because it has brought around a lot of additional negativity and really can't be classified as anything other than hate speech. This whole country is supposed to be slowly moving away from racism, and this is a step back in a serious and scary way.

Never mind the p*ssy grabbing - that's another can of worms. But women are in a better place to battle that sort of stuff than Muslims are right now.
 

Personally, I don't feel this is the right forum for a political debate and for the record, I'd feel the same if someone posted something with similar rhetoric but the opposite viewpoint. There are other forums, on SDN and elsewhere, for this topic.
 
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This is implying that one should distance themselves from their religion and beliefs to avoid persecution in this country. That's not what America is supposed to stand for.

SDN is probably not the ideal place for you to express these particular opinions, since we try to be open and welcoming to everyone here.
 
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love2hunt said:
Didn't have a problem with the political talk on this forum until something hit a sore spot, eh?
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Not at all. I had no problem with your previous post about voting for Trump because it was on topic, not argumentative, and not rude.

If you'd like to discuss/debate/argue/whatever, you're welcome to PM me. I do like political debates, but this isn't the right place and your language was rude and inflammatory.
 
love2hunt said:
No, that was implying that equating race with religion is comparing apples to oranges.

And if it's open and welcome, why are you not open and welcome to my point of view and input?
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This isn't a political forum, that's the point you're missing. Discussion is fine, until you tell someone to just choose another religion.
 
love2hunt said:
Did I say "Muslims should choose another religion?" Did I say "Islam is stupid and you should just change it so you don't get persecuted?" No, I simply pointed out that religion and race aren't nearly the same thing.
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FYI, no point in going back and editing your original post to try and change your original implications when it has already been quoted.
 
love2hunt said:
Rude? Inflammatory? I would disagree. Opinionated? Absolutely. Instead of trying to shut me down with labels, why not tell me why I'm wrong?
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As I've already stated, I'd be happy to discuss this with you via PM or in a more appropriate forum.
 
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Trilt said:
The lounge has a sociopolitical subforum that is great for debates.

I've found over the years that fighting on the internet often results in butthurt and rarely results in changed opinions.
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Can confirm. It also takes up a ton of time and is a source of unnecessary stress. I made it a point for myself to post nothing inflammatory about this election as a status or on another person's post...other than humorous things involving my pets. I was actually told by a few friends that they loved seeing something other than anger come up on their feed, so that was nice.
TrashPanda said:
As I've already stated, I'd be happy to discuss this with you via PM or in a more appropriate forum.
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:troll:
 
I feel as though this election was based solely on 1) the candidates themselves (instead of the issues) and 2) on (smaller) social issues rather than the issues that really are going to "make America great again."
 
mmmdreamerz said:
100 levels of THIS.
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Yup. There's a fair amount of research that shows if you want to change someone's mind, arguing is just about the worst thing to do. Asking questions for clarification, finding common ground, and having a calm and polite discussion (rather than argument or debate) are much more effective. But not as much fun, I guess.
 
love2hunt said:
This is the problem I eluded to in my first post. I have an ideology, and judging by the replies to my comments, there are opposite ideologies. We should be able to discuss viewpoints and opinions. If you feel strongly about your beliefs, is it liable to lead to hurt feelings and getting riled? Yep. But instead of replying to what I said with substance, they've tried to tell me to go away. Come on. If you're gonna express your views, be prepared to defend them.

Now, I did not know there was a specific political forum, and I'll quit posting here if that's the case. However, no one brought that up until I said some unpopular things, and that is the exact problem with our politics today. "I'm open and inclusive, except when it offends me." Calling me a "troll" is what they call an ad hominem, @pinkpuppy9 (i.e. if you can't attack the argument, attack the person). I replied to specific claims and comments with substance. Coming on here and posting #TRUMPTRAIN2016 would be trolling, but I didn't do that.
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Around here, 'troll' is a term for someone who is seeking attention and intentionally posting in order to get a reaction (which is exactly what you've been doing since you've been very politely asked to take your debate elsewhere several times).

You may not have picked up on this since you're so new, but those of us that have been on this forum for a while have a general feel for what's going to incite arguments. You being asked to seek an appropriate outlet for your next-level debate was an effort to keep the peace. By not respecting that, you are considered a 'troll.' No one here really cares to debate with you, so I don't understand why you're still trying to get a rise out of people.

Please seek the appropriate thread for this.
 
My problem is with our president having publicly denounced a specific group of people based on their religion.

And yeah, Muslim/Islam is a religion, but if you are a brown person, I think you know that people tend to hate first and ask questions later.
 
On the topic of correct venues, I don;t know if someone can get to the Lounge or the Sociopolitical forum until they have at least 50 posts. Maybe it's 100. I can't remember. So, not yet - but that's the best place for these topics in the future.

It's hard to not get drawn in!
 
Trilt said:
I've found over the years that fighting on the internet often results in butthurt and rarely results in changed opinions.
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Oh, I dunno. It's often changed my opinion about someone.... just not in the way they hope.
 
twelvetigers said:
My problem is with our president having publicly denounced a specific group of people based on their religion.

And yeah, Muslim/Islam is a religion, but if you are a brown person, I think you know that people tend to hate first and ask questions later.
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I see your point and agree. I didn't like Obama's "clinging to guns and religion" comments, or the Clinton campaign's anti-Catholic comments. I'm sure many peaceful Muslims felt the same way about Trump's comments.

And I won't pretend to know what it's like to be a "brown person," but I will say I think the tendency has become to "hate first, ask questions later" across the board. That's where America really lost in this election. And it's a shame.
 
love2hunt said:
I see your point and agree. I didn't like Obama's "clinging to guns and religion" comments, or the Clinton campaign's anti-Catholic comments. I'm sure many peaceful Muslims felt the same way about Trump's comments.

And I won't pretend to know what it's like to be a "brown person," but I will say I think the tendency has become to "hate first, ask questions later" across the board. That's where America really lost in this election. And it's a shame.
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*nods* Better acceptance and better understanding is pretty much always the answer.
 
Wasn't sure where to put this so I figured I'd stick it here.

Mentioned in the rave thread that I got to shadow a boarded equine surgeon today. It was incredible, and I could go on for a whole post about how great it was. I will definitely be going there again in the future. I'll save the gushing for some rave post another time.

However, got my first true experience of the times when things just go wrong for no apparent reason. I saw 2 extremely capable and extremely experienced veterinarians in tears pretty much begging a horse to get up because after giving it all that they had for 5 hours, they still couldn't get him to his feet. One of these vets has been practising over 15 years. Super sweet horse with a great disposition, very healthy, in for a quick (pretty routine) procedure. Everything went exactly as planned, surgery was over quickly, vitals good, started to recover earlier than expected, then just never fully recovered. Full panel of bloodwork showed nothing major. The vets treated everything they could think of just in case. They didn't stop trying for 5 hours. He just didn't recover.

That image is going to stay with me for a long time. It's incredible how much the people in this profession care, and
the idea of (possibly) working in a profession where people care this much is pretty unbelievable
 
2021ProspectiveDVM said:
I feel as though this election was based solely on 1) the candidates themselves (instead of the issues) and 2) on (smaller) social issues rather than the issues that really are going to "make America great again."
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People say that about every election, and it's going to be partially true for every election. But the reality is, people vote for all kinds of reasons. Some people will vote with their party no matter who is running. Some care more about social issues than anything else - and it's not hard to see why: they're a lot easier to understand (at least on the surface) than things like economics and foreign policy, and their effects feel more immediate. These issues may seem small to you, but to others they feel as if their very way of life depends on it - and who are you to say it doesn't? But a lot of people do know about all those other "more important" issues and will vote based on those as well. And some people vote based on who the candidate is, or at least who they claim to be. Heck, a lot of people vote just to try to keep the guy they don't like out of office. It's not just this election, it's every election. The media tends to make it about one thing, or one category of things, but a lot of voters care about more than just what FOX or CNN is telling them to care about.
 
LetItSnow said:
Hmmmm.

New York vets able to get CE credits for offering free spays/neuters.

Not sure what I think of this. So in exchange for doing something for less than we deserve, and something that won't help improve our skills in any meaningful way, we can duck (part of) our continuing ed requirements that help keep us current?

Not so thrilled.
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They had a line in there about "better training" for the vets, not entirely sure how that would be part of it unless it's done as part of a spay/neuter workshop where you learn new techniques or something (which of course isn't at all what this sounds like).
 
LyraGardenia said:
This is really off-topic at this point, but thanks for the input everyone! Not to get too TMI, but I think I am going to do something along those lines. I can't afford to hire a professional photographer, and I doubt I could find one available within the next week, but I'll fake it lol. He's actually taken some boudoir photos of me before (he's a semi-professional photographer), but I'm sure he won't complain regardless haha.
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Doesn't have to be professional. I'd say the more grainy the photo the better. Really spins the wheels of the imagination. But you're probably a classier person than I am.
 
lol, someone was complaining today because they said there's never been a worse response to the election of a president than the response right now and I had to remind them about the Civil War.

This has been an interesting election for me, I'm a huge history nerd and I've been sharing election history back to the ~1820's with a lot of people on Facebook in the past few days. For once, talking about US History has actually made people want to keep listening to me!
 
vetmedhead said:
lol, someone was complaining today because they said there's never been a worse response to the election of a president than the response right now and I had to remind them about the Civil War.
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For one terrifying moment I had no idea how the Civil War started. There was an election? What?

That moment is over, but yeah . . . It happened.
 
Are there any non-obvious uses for baby shampoo? I just discovered that my mom is keeping a stash under the bathroom sink. Maybe she thinks if she prepares for a grandbaby she'll get one . . .
 
PrincessButterCup said:
Are there any non-obvious uses for baby shampoo? I just discovered that my mom is keeping a stash under the bathroom sink. Maybe she thinks if she prepares for a grandbaby she'll get one . . .
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Use it to give yourself the baby soft skin you've always dreamed about.
 
Hey guys! I hope this wasn't posted elsewhere. If so, feel free to send me a link for recent conversation about it.

BUT I was just wondering what the general opinion is on Pet Insurance? Like what kind is mostly accepted/do you think it is worth it?

I have a healthy 3 year old greyhound but given they're basically made of glass bones and paper skin, I'm thinking about getting a plan for emergencies.
 
My dog is insured. I figured that since I'm a new graduate who doesn't work in a 'typical' clinic setup and have the ability to do a lot of my own veterinary care and I did not have 4-8k saved up for emergency surgeries (FB, TPLO, hemilaminectomy), illness that required extensive hospitalization, or cancer and required a workup/chemo/radiation it was worth it. I would most likely pursue those things for my dog if money weren't an object and his quality of life would be good after. I realized I could put it all on credit cards and use what little savings I had or beg from my parents and struggle with that decision and how to deal with it, but instead I can pay $20 per paycheck (automatically taken from my check even, so easy!) and he's covered for up to 90% of costs. If I still worked for VCA, I probably wouldn't have done insurance because their discounts for their doctors are really good. When I was working ER, it was SO much nicer when an owner would say 'yeah, do whatever, he's insured' and you could provide the best care for the animal without constantly rehashing finances with the owners.

I do wish I had gotten it earlier. I had thought about it, but never did it, and last year my dog was diagnosed with a chronic condition (luckily it isn't too expensive) that is now unfortunately excluded. At least I'm covered for new things moving forward. Some people may be better off just putting money aside in a savings account and 'self insuring' but with internship/residency salary and everything it was going to be a while before I can make big strides and save a lot so insurance made sense for me. I was worried that my middle aged dog would need expensive care before I was able to save enough to do what I wanted, which is why insurance is good for me. I haven't made a claim on him yet, but I have helped owners fill out claims on patients I've seen. It can be a little bit of a hassle, your vet records better be in order, and you should be prepared for several 'pre-existing conditions' but it's worth it.

I have Nationwide (formerly VPI). Others I considered were Trupanion and PetPlan. They all have pros and cons.
 
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I have my kitties on Healthy Paws. I definitely wish I had signed my older girl up earlier, but thankfully she wasn't diagnosed with kidney disease until just recently so that won't be considered pre-existing. There are a lot of companies out there, I would just make sure to look into their exclusions and all of that to make sure the things you want covered are actually covered. Some plans also have annual limits so you'll want to look into that as well. You shouldn't really have to worry about them being accepted because as far as I know the way they all work is they reimburse you after you pay the fee (unless it's something really huge, then there may be an exception made in some cases where they'll pre-approve you for that amount). I have made a couple claims with mine, didn't reach my deductible so I haven't gone through the reimbursement process yet. The claims process was pretty easy, I just took pictures of my invoices and sent them in, then the company contacted the vet for their medical records. One thing I would do is make sure you send in all of your medical records (going back to when you adopted your pet) when you first sign them up, so you don't have to worry about waiting on those being processed the first time you make a claim. I pay about $55 a month for my two cats.

In the future I want to look into the plans that have wellness components, but there aren't very many of those and from my cursory research it seemed like they were probably more expensive than they were worth. So for now I still keep a vet bill fund that will cover wellness/preventative care and my annual deductible, plus some extra since the reimbursement for my older girl is only 70%.
 
PrincessButterCup said:
Are there any non-obvious uses for baby shampoo? I just discovered that my mom is keeping a stash under the bathroom sink. Maybe she thinks if she prepares for a grandbaby she'll get one . . .
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Any make up brushes that aren't synthetic (or maybe even if they are) like kata said. Also, washing certain fabric items or fur (like if you had a sheepskin rug or something). Or, maybe they just like it. Washing the pets maybe. Is it used at all?

If binkies and bottles start showing up, I'd consider running.
 
twelvetigers said:
Any make up brushes that aren't synthetic (or maybe even if they are) like kata said. Also, washing certain fabric items or fur (like if you had a sheepskin rug or something). Or, maybe they just like it. Washing the pets maybe. Is it used at all?

If binkies and bottles start showing up, I'd consider running.
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Haha. I asked, apparently it's for washing stuffed animals.
 
twelvetigers said:
Any make up brushes that aren't synthetic (or maybe even if they are) like kata said. Also, washing certain fabric items or fur (like if you had a sheepskin rug or something). Or, maybe they just like it. Washing the pets maybe. Is it used at all?

If binkies and bottles start showing up, I'd consider running.
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Second washing the pets, I used to use baby shampoo on any of my pets with sensitive skin.
 
GreytLife said:
Hey guys! I hope this wasn't posted elsewhere. If so, feel free to send me a link for recent conversation about it.

BUT I was just wondering what the general opinion is on Pet Insurance? Like what kind is mostly accepted/do you think it is worth it?

I have a healthy 3 year old greyhound but given they're basically made of glass bones and paper skin, I'm thinking about getting a plan for emergencies.
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A little different because well it was a horse and not a dog or cat but insurance was fantastic...if you think greyhounds are made of glass bones and paper skin, let me tell you about my mare 😱 Paid for itself over and over again.
 
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