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aggievethopeful2021 said:
The fact that there is only 7-8 microwaves for over 1000 students is really getting frustrating. We share our vet school with undergrads, and all of us vet students have lunch at the same time along with most of the undergrads so the lines are always ridiculously long.
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You should bring your own microwave and charge $5 for people who want to skip the long line
 
aggievethopeful2021 said:
The fact that there is only 7-8 microwaves for over 1000 students is really getting frustrating. We share our vet school with undergrads, and all of us vet students have lunch at the same time along with most of the undergrads so the lines are always ridiculously long.
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Ugh, that's awful. We've had issues with not enough microwaves, but we don't have undergrads in our building. Last year some people brought extras to have in the back of our lecture hall, but then this year we were told we could only have 2 in our current lecture hall because 3-4 running at one time was causing shortages. 🙄 I think it's mostly sorted out out now that the first year lounge is open, which has a fridge and microwaves. Anyway, I'd bring it up with your class president to see if they can talk to administration to get more microwaves somewhere.
 
@aggievethopeful2021 - You could put in a good word for me at TAMU. I will come with a microwave, a hot plate (stolen from my school, of course 😀), and a mutha'lickin' toaster oven. I'll put them in one of those wheely things that people drag around instead of wearing backpacks. But, get this, I'll have my three-legged dog drag the cart and only DVM students can use it. Deal?
 
Vombatidae said:
@aggievethopeful2021 - You could put in a good word for me at TAMU. I will come with a microwave, a hot plate (stolen from my school, of course 😀), and a mutha'lickin' toaster oven. I'll put them in one of those wheely things that people drag around instead of wearing backpacks. But, get this, I'll have my three-legged dog drag the cart and only DVM students can use it. Deal?
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And you’ll charge $5 a person per use 😉

Gotta pay those loans off somehow
 
When your rotation mates avoid taking cases so you and one other person end up with 8 patients and the other people only have one.....
 
SkiOtter said:
Yes but she’ll find less people who want to use her microwave for $100 than $5 or even $10, so she wouldn’t make much, if any, charging $100 a pop
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Better idea. She charges $100 for the semester for people to use her microwave. Then as she makes a profit she buys new microwaves, while also breaking an existing school microwave. Eventually she replaces all school microwaves with her own and has a microwave monopoly.
 
Caiter92 said:
Better idea. She charges $100 for the semester for people to use her microwave. Then as she makes a profit she buys new microwaves, while also breaking an existing school microwave. Eventually she replaces all school microwaves with her own and has a microwave monopoly.
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Definitely $1000 per semester 😀
 
mmmdreamerz said:
Twas a joke based on the sorry state of the average vet student student loan balance lol
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Trilt said:
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Nah I got the joke, but charging $100 you’re gonna get very few people using her microwave and will probably end up making less money over time versus charging a lower amount and having more people pay it. :shrug:
 
I'll bring something cool like a laser cutter and we can make better anatomy diagrams. Or a 3D printer. I'm full of teacher-useful ideas, just let me in! 🙂
 
Hahaha I totally should brknbone and charge people. Although, probably not $100 :laugh: what’s sad is we used to only have 4 microwaves for most of last semester. We complained, they bought us four more. But they short out of all 4 run at the same time so it’s actually only like two. Lol.
 
PrincessButterCup said:
I think students are discouraged from bringing their own cadavers to school. 😛
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Probably lololol.

Models, diagrams, and pictures never helped me. I must be elbow deep in the abdomen of a dog with a scalpel in the other hand to fully process the information. :laugh:
 
PrincessButterCup said:
I think students are discouraged from bringing their own cadavers to school. 😛
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Tangent: When my guinea pig Phineas died abruptly when I was a student, I took him to school and did a gross dissection in the anatomy lab to go hunt for any obvious cause.

I may have snuck him in there at 2AM to do it....
 
LetItSnow said:
Tangent: When my guinea pig Phineas died abruptly when I was a student, I took him to school and did a gross dissection in the anatomy lab to go hunt for any obvious cause.

I may have snuck him in there at 2AM to do it....
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But did you find a cause??
 
LetItSnow said:
Tangent: When my guinea pig Phineas died abruptly when I was a student, I took him to school and did a gross dissection in the anatomy lab to go hunt for any obvious cause.

I may have snuck him in there at 2AM to do it....
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I feel like we are almost encouraged to necropsy our own pets if we want to.
 
PrincessButterCup said:
I could not do this. I don't think I could even be present while someone else did the necropsy.
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I agree with you, and I love necropsies. I think I would just be afraid of either making that my last memory of my pet or seeing the extent of the illness that killed my pet and feeling super bad about it.

But then again, before every necropsy I've ever done I will put a hand on or pet the cadaver and thank it for giving me the chance to learn more about it and medicine in general. There's a certain level of... I don't know how to describe it - intimacy, almost? - to necropsies that make me think doing it on one of my own animals would be way too emotionally taxing.
 
vetmedhead said:
I agree with you, and I love necropsies. I think I would just be afraid of either making that my last memory of my pet or seeing the extent of the illness that killed my pet and feeling super bad about it.

But then again, before every necropsy I've ever done I will put a hand on or pet the cadaver and thank it for giving me the chance to learn more about it and medicine in general. There's a certain level of... I don't know how to describe it - intimacy, almost? - to necropsies that make me think doing it on one of my own animals would be way too emotionally taxing.
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My dog has an extraskeletal osteosarcoma in his iliopsoas that is invading his spinal canal. At one point I thought about doing a necropsy when we reach the end, but I 100% agree that seeing the extend of pathology might make be feel guilty even though he really is a happy and comfortable dog at the moment. I wouldn't mind letting someone else perform one but I can say with certainly now that I couldn't be there. I would read the report though. Love your "thank you" comment. <3
 
After seeing several necropsies, I definitely don't want to see one of my pets cut open like that. That said, I have sliced open a few of my fish in hopes of finding out what killed them, and have always been disappointed in the lack of findings. I know people that have done it for their small mammals and birds though.
 
vetmedhead said:
I agree with you, and I love necropsies. I think I would just be afraid of either making that my last memory of my pet or seeing the extent of the illness that killed my pet and feeling super bad about it.

But then again, before every necropsy I've ever done I will put a hand on or pet the cadaver and thank it for giving me the chance to learn more about it and medicine in general. There's a certain level of... I don't know how to describe it - intimacy, almost? - to necropsies that make me think doing it on one of my own animals would be way too emotionally taxing.
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Yes to all of this.

When Cali died and I decided not to send her to necropsy, it was largely because it would have been random students doing it. I would trust any of our pathologists or residents with her because I know them and have relationships with them, and I wouldn't have been uncomfortable with them having that intimacy with her.
 
kaydubs said:
I did this too
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I think sometimes it helps to just do centering and grounding behaviors like this before you do certain things. I think in some ways it helps a bit with compassion fatigue and other badness to be able to take a moment to reflect before you start something like a necropsy (or an anatomy dissection, for that matter) rather than diving right in. It gives me space to feel my appropriate feelings without walling them off or ignoring them until they hit me all at once later.

I do a lot of necropsies on animal cruelty cases for work and it also helps me stay focused on a goal and desired outcome for the necropsy, and to process some emotions before we start.
 
kaydubs said:
Staying asleep is becoming increasingly difficult. I miss sleeping. I miss it a lot.

Feeling very conflicted about work. I’m becoming resigned to finding new job but still trying to figure out how to not rage quit in the meantime...
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I'm thinking of rage quitting my second job. I've even calculated how long I could survive with no income.
 
@kaydubs & @DVMDream - Can I ask what makes you want to quit? Most of the vets that I have worked with have said that you should extensively research where you apply, tour, and pay attention to the body language of those working. I'm curious if you both are unhappy because the job is not what it was described as or some other reason.
 
Vombatidae said:
@kaydubs & @DVMDream - Can I ask what makes you want to quit? Most of the vets that I have worked with have said that you should extensively research where you apply, tour, and pay attention to the body language of those working. I'm curious if you both are unhappy because the job is not what it was described as or some other reason.
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You can PM me.
 
kaydubs said:
Staying asleep is becoming increasingly difficult. I miss sleeping. I miss it a lot.

Feeling very conflicted about work. I’m becoming resigned to finding new job but still trying to figure out how to not rage quit in the meantime...
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Hang in there, kdubs! You can find the job for you. It is out there. <3
 
strider144 said:
You know, before today I never appreciated how no one at med school dissects their relatives or loved ones.

I think I'll stick with the randomly-assigned, pre-embalmed dead person.
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Your comment made me think about everything we do in anatomy, which got me thinking about having to skin a human’s face and I think I’m gonna go throw up now.

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cdoconn said:
Your comment made me think about everything we do in anatomy, which got me thinking about having to skin a human’s face and I think I’m gonna go throw up now.

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Brb. Also vomiting.
 
cdoconn said:
Your comment made me think about everything we do in anatomy, which got me thinking about having to skin a human’s face and I think I’m gonna go throw up now.

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Our school does an anatomy exchange with the med school where we go see their anatomy lab/cadavers, and they come see ours. I was really surprised that the skinned faces didn't bother me at all. I can't really explain it, but the preservation process just makes them look fake in a way. I knew they were real, but they didn't look real.
 
Skimble said:
Our school does an anatomy exchange with the med school where we go see their anatomy lab/cadavers, and they come see ours. I was really surprised that the skinned faces didn't bother me at all. I can't really explain it, but the preservation process just makes them look fake in a way. I knew they were real, but they didn't look real.
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That’s nice... I think? Idk, that’s a little crazy. I know it’s something I’d get used to, but actually dissecting a human is weird to me.
 
cdoconn said:
That’s nice... I think? Idk, that’s a little crazy. I know it’s something I’d get used to, but actually dissecting a human is weird to me.
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Huh. Guess you're not a serial killer after all.
 
SkiOtter said:
Just because she doesn’t like dissecting them doesn’t mean she doesn’t like killing them
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I always imagined her as a next level, psychopathic serial killer. If she's just a regular old serial killer....meh. Hannibal or bust.
 
Skimble said:
Our school does an anatomy exchange with the med school where we go see their anatomy lab/cadavers, and they come see ours. I was really surprised that the skinned faces didn't bother me at all. I can't really explain it, but the preservation process just makes them look fake in a way. I knew they were real, but they didn't look real.
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We have something similar with the human anatomy program here and I always thought it was funny because they were almost universally horrified by the animal cadavers lol. Meanwhile the vet students were usually knee deep in the human cadavers asking questions and asking about finding different organs/muscles.
 
Elkhart said:
Yeah, the idea of dissecting human faces and hands (I don't know why hands in particular bother me, too, they just do) put me off the idea of med school entirely. That, and everything to do with human vomit.
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The hands bother a lot of people, especially if they still have nail polish on them
 
Vombatidae said:
@kaydubs & @DVMDream - Can I ask what makes you want to quit? Most of the vets that I have worked with have said that you should extensively research where you apply, tour, and pay attention to the body language of those working. I'm curious if you both are unhappy because the job is not what it was described as or some other reason.
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I left my first job because after a time, I had issues with the standard of care and the way things were being done/run.

It's tough to "extensively research" a private practice GP job. You interview, tour and sometimes get to tag along to appointments. I think it's tough to appreciate or pick up on the little things that might bother you over time. Not saying don't make every effort to feel a place out, but it's easier said than done as a snapshot in time.
 
vetmedhead said:
We have something similar with the human anatomy program here and I always thought it was funny because they were almost universally horrified by the animal cadavers lol. Meanwhile the vet students were usually knee deep in the human cadavers asking questions and asking about finding different organs/muscles.
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I did a cat during my post-bacc. My anatomy lab doesn't actually start until near the end of first year, but I think I will prefer the human, because the human died naturally and chose to be there and I don't know from whence the cats came. I had a really hard time anytime I was dealing with skin and fur. Once it was all muscle and fascia and organs, I was ok. The fur was very very not ok.

During med school interviews, you typically tour the anatomy lab. When I toured at my school, there were some people working with a prof to identify various things on the inside of the skull. About half of the interviewees kept their eyes glued on the tour guide, taking care not to look to the side, while the rest of us tried to look like we were engaged as we stared in rapt attention at the anatomy lesson instead.

Although also you guys must have some huge cadavers, and that's pretty freaky. They have strict height and weight limits for human cadavers for ease of handling and storage, so my cadaver is unlikely to be all that much bigger than me.
 
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