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MixedAnimals77 said:
Ranting here because I've ran out of places to rant🙃 I'm getting induced early because of mild pre-eclampsia so I'm getting induced tomorrow and have been doing twice weekly apts up to where both our parents are to have higher level care. Of course grandparents are excited but my in laws....OMG. I cannot. They have literally called or texted EVERY SINGLE DAY THIS WEEK to "check in". LEAVE ME THE F* ALONE. Today was the same as yesterday, same as the day before. AND they want us to check in tomorrow and I'm like WHY we are literally going to the hospital and unlikely to have the child tomorrow. Especially after I have told them we will let you know if/when we are ready for visitors.
Thanks for coming to my in law rant😅
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We established firm rules:
1. We will tell you when we're ready and the nurses know not to let anyone in.
- my MIL was shocked no one but us would be there for my son and no one but us and BIL/SIL would be there for my niece. But I didn't want anyone else there. My vagina and vulva, my choice.

2. Literally put my phone on do not disturb and didn't respond to anyone until hours and hours later. Nice peace of mind.
 
Hugs, mixy 💜💜💜💜 definitely would recommend ignoring any and all texts you do not want to read/answer tomorrow and the coming days. Put it on do not disturb and/or have hubs tell his parents to cool it and that they won’t be getting any updates during the process until baby is born. You don’t need that extra stress.
 
battie said:
We established firm rules:
1. We will tell you when we're ready and the nurses know not to let anyone in.
- my MIL was shocked no one but us would be there for my son and no one but us and BIL/SIL would be there for my niece. But I didn't want anyone else there. My vagina and vulva, my choice.

2. Literally put my phone on do not disturb and didn't respond to anyone until hours and hours later. Nice peace of mind.
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Defs the plan. I just cannot anymore.
My MIL asked my mother if I was going to be on the phone with her during birth. My mom frowned and was like no...also it could be like literal days before I have him. They can't seem to take a hint but yes that's my plan because I might kill them otherwise 😅
 
honeypot999 said:
The amount of pre-vets “harassing” (using that term very loosely) me because I still believe that if the AVMA pulls RVC’s accreditation and there’s no grace period for current/enrolled student is a bad look is crazy.
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It’s an extremely bad look. I have a friend in his third year right now and he’s horrified that he won’t be able to take the NAVLE easily. RVC has expressed they essentially have no plan for these North American students and it’s really unfortunate.
 
Shiloh47 said:
Damn wtf, I thought that if you enrolled in the school while it was accredited & for whatever reason the school lost accreditation, you would still be able to sit for the NAVLE since it was accredited when you accepted? That’s not the case?
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It usually is, so it's really strange if that approach is not being taken with RVC
 
WildZoo said:
It usually is, so it's really strange if that approach is not being taken with RVC
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I guess RVC is claiming since they are an international program those rules don’t apply? Idk how it’s not the same as a stateside program but they are actively telling students that is not the case and they will have to go through PAVE or ECFVG like other programs not accredited. So they’re either misinformed and spreading false info or somehow have different rules applying to them
 
Cowsrcool said:
I guess RVC is claiming since they are an international program those rules don’t apply? Idk how it’s not the same as a stateside program but they are actively telling students that is not the case and they will have to go through PAVE or ECFVG like other programs not accredited. So they’re either misinformed and spreading false info or somehow have different rules applying to them
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It’s so strange because Australian vet students have popped up in threads saying they were given NAVLE reassurance when their schools were on probation.
 
honeypot999 said:
It’s so strange because Australian vet students have popped up in threads saying they were given NAVLE reassurance when their schools were on probation.
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This RVC situation is really making me worried for the future. I had assumed when I applied (and accepted) my spot at Glasgow that probation was nothing to be afraid of, and that's clearly not the case anymore. It sucks the AVMA is willing to put so many students in this position, and it's because they have no protections for international schools regarding AVMA accreditation (please correct me if I'm wrong on this).
From my understanding, it seems to stem from the fact that international schools have their own accrediting bodies, alongside AVMA, vs schools in the US only have the AVMA usually, and therefore they have some obligation to make sure the students at least get a usable degree.
Your comment on the Aus students getting reassurance makes me rethink everything though. Why would there be assurances for some international schools, and not for others?? Is it an RVC thing or an AVMA thing at this point, it's hard to say, I just feel awful for the students at RVC put in this situation through no fault of their own!
 
BunnyFluffy said:
This RVC situation is really making me worried for the future. I had assumed when I applied (and accepted) my spot at Glasgow that probation was nothing to be afraid of, and that's clearly not the case anymore. It sucks the AVMA is willing to put so many students in this position, and it's because they have no protections for international schools regarding AVMA accreditation (please correct me if I'm wrong on this).
From my understanding, it seems to stem from the fact that international schools have their own accrediting bodies, alongside AVMA, vs schools in the US only have the AVMA usually, and therefore they have some obligation to make sure the students at least get a usable degree.
Your comment on the Aus students getting reassurance makes me rethink everything though. Why would there be assurances for some international schools, and not for others?? Is it an RVC thing or an AVMA thing at this point, it's hard to say, I just feel awful for the students at RVC put in this situation through no fault of their own!
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Especially because I don’t think it was ever clearly communicated in the AVMA COE bylaws that international schools were held to a different standard with terminal accreditation.
 
MixedAnimals77 said:
Defs the plan. I just cannot anymore.
My MIL asked my mother if I was going to be on the phone with her during birth. My mom frowned and was like no...also it could be like literal days before I have him. They can't seem to take a hint but yes that's my plan because I might kill them otherwise 😅
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They bugged the hubs but that's his problem. It told him I would not be talking to them. Meanwhile our star wars child arrived

 
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honeypot999 said:
Especially because I don’t think it was ever clearly communicated in the AVMA COE bylaws that international schools were held to a different standard with terminal accreditation.
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I just spent some time skimming the bylaw documents and while I admit I could have missed something, everything I saw specifically referring to accreditation of colleges outside the US and Canada actually explicitly says that it uses the same criteria/guidelines as the US/Canada schools for the accreditation. However it didn’t talk specifically about terminal accreditation in that specific section 3.3 about international schools. Earlier in document, in section 3.2.7 where they do address terminal accreditation, the section does start out saying “for schools in the US and Canada…” which suggests to me there may be different policies for international schools, but I don’t see where they outline a different parameter for schools not in the US and Canada. And I did a control+F for all instances of terminal in the 214 pg pdf document.
 
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MixedAnimals77 said:
Ranting here because I've ran out of places to rant🙃 I'm getting induced early because of mild pre-eclampsia so I'm getting induced tomorrow and have been doing twice weekly apts up to where both our parents are to have higher level care. Of course grandparents are excited but my in laws....OMG. I cannot. They have literally called or texted EVERY SINGLE DAY THIS WEEK to "check in". LEAVE ME THE F* ALONE. Today was the same as yesterday, same as the day before. AND they want us to check in tomorrow and I'm like WHY we are literally going to the hospital and unlikely to have the child tomorrow. Especially after I have told them we will let you know if/when we are ready for visitors.
Thanks for coming to my in law rant😅
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battie said:
We established firm rules:
1. We will tell you when we're ready and the nurses know not to let anyone in.
- my MIL was shocked no one but us would be there for my son and no one but us and BIL/SIL would be there for my niece. But I didn't want anyone else there. My vagina and vulva, my choice.

2. Literally put my phone on do not disturb and didn't respond to anyone until hours and hours later. Nice peace of mind.
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Although you have your new addition already (CONTRAGULATIONS!!), I wanted to add in on this because we've already talked about our disdain for our respective inlaws, lol.

My husband and I are trying, sort of, and no one else knows this (except all of you now) for a multitude of reasons that you all probably would agree with.

+1000 on the firm rules thing, especially if you intend to have more kids. Set those boundaries now. Honestly, unless you really want to tell people, no one needs to know when you go into labor. No one needs to know the minute the kid pops out. No one needs to know until you are ready to tell them. No one is entitled to visit the kid until you are ready, especially if you suspect they won't respect any other boundaries you have (such as not kissing your child).

These boundaries need to be even more aggressive if you are the bearer of the first grandchild. Is your spouse enforcing these boundaries at least? Nothing worse than you having to constantly be the bad guy in these situations. My husband has gotten MUCH better at this with time, but our engagement/early marriage was rough. My MIL was a true horror.
 
pp9 said:
Is your spouse enforcing these boundaries at least?
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10/10 point here. Marriage is the definition of "teamwork makes the dream work". If your spouse isn't also enforcing boundaries, then the battle is already lost.

My husband and I had to work through in law issues on both sides for a while. Now we will actually support our opposite in law if we think their child is over reacting or not giving grace. So establishing these boundaries now, working together, and being consistent can actually strengthen your in law relationship *if there's a positive relationship to foster*.
 
honeypot999 said:
If my car decides to make one more weird noise, I’m driving it off a cliff.

You’re telling me I put $900 in to fixing one noise and now it’s making two more noises??

I swear I have the worst luck with cars
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I had an old junk Taurus in college that perpetually had a whiny belt. It wasn’t a necessary fix and was like $500 so I just never went anywhere without playing my stereo VERY loudly. Sometimes I miss that car 🤣 could hear me coming from a mile away for multiple reasons.
 
indysadventures said:
I had an old junk Taurus in college that perpetually had a whiny belt. It wasn’t a necessary fix and was like $500 so I just never went anywhere without playing my stereo VERY loudly. Sometimes I miss that car 🤣 could hear me coming from a mile away for multiple reasons.
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My favorite ford escape was like that and I loved it except when the car engine blew up on the highway

I think the calipers of my brakes are stuck so it’s making a grinding and squealing noise constantly. Plus a clunking noise under the driver side.

I hate cars
 
honeypot999 said:
If my car decides to make one more weird noise, I’m driving it off a cliff.

You’re telling me I put $900 in to fixing one noise and now it’s making two more noises??

I swear I have the worst luck with cars
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If there’s any solidarity I have to get an 800 dollar repair for break lines 😭
Cars just sense if you even have 5 extra bucks and want to act up
 
honeypot999 said:
If my car decides to make one more weird noise, I’m driving it off a cliff.

You’re telling me I put $900 in to fixing one noise and now it’s making two more noises??

I swear I have the worst luck with cars
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Solidarity. I won't go into detail but I have my own terrible car luck going on recently. They are just the worst.
 
My sweet hamster passed today. He was about a year-old golden chubby guy and I'm devastated. I lost one of my guinea pigs last week to heart failure due to CHF she'd had diagnosed for a month and now suddenly my roommate hammie. I've had pets pass before but with this little guy he was perfectly fine from what I could see. He was active, had good appetite, loved running around my room and just living his life. He came to me when I called his name and even learned a few tricks for me. He never really was crazy about affection but hey I'm not either so maybe he was just taking after me. I was studying this afternoon when I heard him make a little noise in his enclosure so I went to say good morning and saw him collapse onto his bedding from his sandbox and close his eyes. I picked him up and he opened his eyes, gave two little grunts and he was gone. I'm heartbroken and feeling this loss hitting harder than they usually do. I miss you my mister mogu man. It was planned that he would come with me to vet school but I guess fate had other plans than for him than to watch his owner bust her butt studying. Just wanted to get these feelings out somewhere because I can't bring myself to tell anyone without crying all over again. 🐹
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Not really a rant but are vet students generally eligible for SNAP during semesters? Anyone have any experience with this? 🤔
Also with food banks are you allowed to just go get stuff or is there a requirement to access it.
 
Shiloh47 said:
Not really a rant but are vet students generally eligible for SNAP during semesters? Anyone have any experience with this? 🤔
Also with food banks are you allowed to just go get stuff or is there a requirement to access it.
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In theory some college students could qualify, but you have to meet certain criteria. I found the graphic below on the USDA website. If this is still accurate, vet students wouldn’t be meeting the work requirements so those without children or a disability may not be eligible.

And food bank rules will vary by the program. Some have income requirements and others may just give food to anyone. One my mom volunteers at will give food to anyone, but I live in a very rural town. A lot of food pantries have limited hours or certain daytime pickup times that may be hard for a full time veterinary student to make work…for example, the church I went to in undergrad had a food pantry, but their hours were like 10-12 on thursdays or something.

Really though, while I am all for reducing loan amounts and there’s no shame in going to a food bank and most are happy to give their food out, your loan disbursements should cover food. That’s part of the living expenses included in the cost of attendance estimates. Maybe not eating lobster and steak every night, but more than enough to survive on, especially if you don’t have children to feed as well.
 
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Shiloh47 said:
Not really a rant but are vet students generally eligible for SNAP during semesters? Anyone have any experience with this? 🤔
Also with food banks are you allowed to just go get stuff or is there a requirement to access it.
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I think this varies by state. I am in Illinois and have been able to get SNAP while a student. There used to be work requirements but they got rid of them at least 5 years ago.

My local food bank is run by a church and is essentially "No questions asked. If you need food, we have food you can take." I think most of them are that way.
 
Our lease renewal is due in six days, which we were planning on re-signing for one more year, until two days ago when our neighbors got into a loud altercation and fired four shots in our parking lot, less than 200 ft from our front door.

I don’t know what to do. We felt incredibly safe where we are until 48 hours ago. Now I’m wondering how many days until I have a bullet hole in my apartment, or until someone dies, but it’s not as easy as “just move out”.
 
_rae_ said:
Our lease renewal is due in six days, which we were planning on re-signing for one more year, until two days ago when our neighbors got into a loud altercation and fired four shots in our parking lot, less than 200 ft from our front door.

I don’t know what to do. We felt incredibly safe where we are until 48 hours ago. Now I’m wondering how many days until I have a bullet hole in my apartment, or until someone dies, but it’s not as easy as “just move out”.
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this is a super valid concern and i'm glad to hear you were not hurt during this altercation. i would start looking at new places regardless if you plan to renew or not just incase you HAVE to move. maybe you can ask to change units and state the reason you previously mentioned?
 
katiemcat said:
Doing externships are so fun! What’s not fun is finding / paying for housing in expensive areas to do said externships 🥹
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Honestly I had the most luck just asking people in my network. For one, I even just asked a girl at a party I’d just met (friend of a friend) if she knew anyone in a certain town and she did happen to know someone I stayed with for three weeks. And they even let me bring my dog. But the externship fb group is very helpful sometimes too. It’s stressful though.
 
_rae_ said:
Our lease renewal is due in six days, which we were planning on re-signing for one more year, until two days ago when our neighbors got into a loud altercation and fired four shots in our parking lot, less than 200 ft from our front door.

I don’t know what to do. We felt incredibly safe where we are until 48 hours ago. Now I’m wondering how many days until I have a bullet hole in my apartment, or until someone dies, but it’s not as easy as “just move out”.
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Def would call and report it to police if it ever happens again. Ik it's alot harder in a larger town but usually when those types of things happen one of them isn't supposed to have the said firearm or there are other issues the police can resolve and make your situation safer
 
MixedAnimals77 said:
Def would call and report it to police if it ever happens again. Ik it's alot harder in a larger town but usually when those types of things happen one of them isn't supposed to have the said firearm or there are other issues the police can resolve and make your situation safer
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I had called the non-emergency line because of the screaming, but they got upgraded to a 911 call (which I hated doing because my upstairs neighbors are not white and I’m pretty sure I heard one of the cops mention ICE during one of their escalated discussions). We had one unit respond who ended up calling in two more, and then we had a K-9 unit behind the building the next morning. The cops also never talked to us. My hope is it gets resolved by our apartment complex as we have pretty strict rules on firearms, whether they belong to you or your guest, but I have no idea when or if that’ll happen.

vampyrica said:
this is a super valid concern and i'm glad to hear you were not hurt during this altercation. i would start looking at new places regardless if you plan to renew or not just incase you HAVE to move. maybe you can ask to change units and state the reason you previously mentioned?
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Unfortunately because of the unique layout of the building, I don’t think a new unit would help. Each building is only six apartments, two side by side per floor, and the front doors go directly outside; there’s no common hallways. That’s part of the reason we liked it; it felt more like mini condos and less like an adult dorm building. I have three tours scheduled over the next few days, so hopefully something works out 🤞🏻
 
JaynaAli said:
Honestly I had the most luck just asking people in my network. For one, I even just asked a girl at a party I’d just met (friend of a friend) if she knew anyone in a certain town and she did happen to know someone I stayed with for three weeks. And they even let me bring my dog. But the externship fb group is very helpful sometimes too. It’s stressful though.
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For my first one my friend from college let me and a classmate crash at his guest house for two weeks. I am eternally grateful. Didn’t know about the externship housing group will definitely check it out !
 
Well, we're officially moving. The pros: the neighborhood is way more residential (goodbye industrial complex), the house is a CUTE craftsman with amazing built ins, and we're only moving a few minutes down the road so the commute is really no different. The cons are: moving, and the bedrooms are very small. We really hoped to land some place we could stay through the end of school and maybe we will, but it will definitely depend on how this next year goes. We toured an adorable apartment that I was in love with, but the spouse made a good point that the bedrooms would fit a bed and literally nothing else, so we nixed it. C'est la vie. I'm trying really hard right now to reframe this as a positive, and not the time crunched, stressful, scary thing it has been.
 
_rae_ said:
I'm trying really hard right now to reframe this as a positive, and not the time crunched, stressful, scary thing it has been.
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To be fair to yourself, it doesn't have to be a positive right now. Necessity is neither positive nor negative. It just is. I think it's fair to wait until you're settled and re-evaluate.

A bit different, but I was apprehensive about our house, but we needed to move and it was bad timing to get a good house. Then I hated it. And now with each thing we do, I like it a little bit more. Eventually, I will probably love this house because it will be what I want. But until then, it's okay that I only kinda like my house.
 
battie said:
A bit different, but I was apprehensive about our house, but we needed to move and it was bad timing to get a good house. Then I hated it. And now with each thing we do, I like it a little bit more. Eventually, I will probably love this house because it will be what I want. But until then, it's okay that I only kinda like my house.
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If I've learned anything over the past 5 years of home ownership (minus this past year) and as we prepare to move into our fourth home, it's that you will never be able to buy the 'dream home' unless you are a millionaire. The rest of us buy a house that works and do what we can to make it more in line with what we want.

_rae_ said:
Well, we're officially moving. The pros: the neighborhood is way more residential (goodbye industrial complex), the house is a CUTE craftsman with amazing built ins, and we're only moving a few minutes down the road so the commute is really no different. The cons are: moving, and the bedrooms are very small. We really hoped to land some place we could stay through the end of school and maybe we will, but it will definitely depend on how this next year goes. We toured an adorable apartment that I was in love with, but the spouse made a good point that the bedrooms would fit a bed and literally nothing else, so we nixed it. C'est la vie. I'm trying really hard right now to reframe this as a positive, and not the time crunched, stressful, scary thing it has been.
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Moving is always 100% stressful. You are only here temporarily though, if that helps at all. Even if you stayed in this place for the rest of your school years, it's okay to hate certain things about it. At the end, you pack up and move on in a clean break. As long as the space is reasonably functional for you and it's not a dump, which is harder to find in college towns in my experience.
 
pp9 said:
As long as the space is reasonably functional for you and it's not a dump, which is harder to find in college towns in my experience.
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It is far from a dump, which I'm very grateful for. We explicitly stayed away from the student areas because I am too old to deal with undergraduate housing problems and undergraduate shenanigans. I'm essentially a young person with a grandma attitude. The house is very well cared for, the landlords are only a few blocks away, it's near a lot of restaurants and shopping that we like, and the area is primarily professionals, families, and post-bacc students.
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To be fair to yourself, it doesn't have to be a positive right now. Necessity is neither positive nor negative. It just is. I think it's fair to wait until you're settled and re-evaluate.

A bit different, but I was apprehensive about our house, but we needed to move and it was bad timing to get a good house. Then I hated it. And now with each thing we do, I like it a little bit more. Eventually, I will probably love this house because it will be what I want. But until then, it's okay that I only kinda like my house.
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I'm thankful that we're creative and handy people. We've painted various pieces of thrifted furniture, the spouse is an artist and very good at designing a space, and the landlords are considering letting us paint too. I'm hopeful that we can make something nice out of it.
 
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It is far from a dump, which I'm very grateful for. We explicitly stayed away from the student areas because I am too old to deal with undergraduate housing problems and undergraduate shenanigans. I'm essentially a young person with a grandma attitude. The house is very well cared for, the landlords are only a few blocks away, it's near a lot of restaurants and shopping that we like, and the area is primarily professionals, families, and post-bacc students.

I'm thankful that we're creative and handy people. We've painted various pieces of thrifted furniture, the spouse is an artist and very good at designing a space, and the landlords are considering letting us paint too. I'm hopeful that we can make something nice out of it.

I'll delete these later (also hoping I did this right), but here's our three season room, and our living and dining built ins. Again, focusing on the cuteness factor as much as I can.
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It looks really cute!

Fellow grandma here, btw.
 
Shiloh47 said:
www.forbes.com

Student Loans And Trump's Megabill: What To Know After House Passes Bill

The bill overhauls how new borrowers can pay back their loans and imposes new limits for how much they can take out.
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So does the grandfathering provision still stand or no PLUS loans past 2026 for anyone with this if it goes past the senate?
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I think the bill was no new plus loans for new borrowers starting in fall 2026, but if you had one taken out prior to then, they will still let existing borrowers have them until 2029-2030 school year and then no one at all gets them starting in 2030. So in theory students who are currently enrolled or are starting this fall should still have access all four years, but it’s possible the bill changes or that the articles I have been reading were incorrect. Applicants for this upcoming app cycle that’s just starting need to take heed and factor this into their decisions.
 
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pp9 said:
If I've learned anything over the past 5 years of home ownership (minus this past year) and as we prepare to move into our fourth home, it's that you will never be able to buy the 'dream home' unless you are a millionaire. The rest of us buy a house that works and do what we can to make it more in line with what we want.


Moving is always 100% stressful. You are only here temporarily though, if that helps at all. Even if you stayed in this place for the rest of your school years, it's okay to hate certain things about it. At the end, you pack up and move on in a clean break. As long as the space is reasonably functional for you and it's not a dump, which is harder to find in college towns in my experience.
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Seconding all of this, as I currently am sitting amongst boxes, stressed out of my mind, with our closing next week. Moving always hurts and compromise always exists unless you have millions to spend.

There’s been so many emotions with selling and leaving our first home, and leaving our friends and loved ones with this multi-state move. Not to mention the guilt of my partner having to up and move jobs for me.

But, a positive note - I’m also looking at so many things I hated about our first house, and seeing how in the end, none of it mattered as I came to love the space and make it our own. And, while our new home has some compromises too (hello knob and tube wiring and no central air 🫣), I know I’ll be thinking the same way in a few years.

Moving is emotional and the brain fog is intense. I can barely keep a handle on all the things that need to be done, and now there’s tearful goodbyes with friends nearly every day now, which isn’t helping my anxiety or my sadness. I know my spouse and I made the right choice for both of us, but it’s still hard to swallow. I always told myself if I got into the school local to me (across the state border, but still OOS), I’d go there despite the commute. There were several reasons why that wasn’t the right choice, but it doesn’t mean that I’m not sitting here, a twitchy and sad ball of anxiety, cursing myself for choosing to move 1,500 miles.

Moving sucks, but as you’ve said, it’s temporary. I just have to make that into a mantra over the next two weeks 🫠 @_rae_ , you aren’t alone - moving is hard and let yourself feel all the feels. But, I’m so happy you found a place!!
 
The optimist in me hopes that this bill, if passed (which I am not confident it will, similar to battie), would force schools to find a way to get less expensive. (If that is even possible.) The pessimist (or perhaps realist) in me thinks people are just going to have to take out private loans and people will do that despite the negative financial implications because "Follow your dreams" was highly valued in our generation growing up, for better or worse.

I am concerned about the cuts to Pell grants. I don't come from much and it is the only way I was able to go to college. I still came out with $30k in debt anyway even with living at home, going to a state school and working while in school. College would have been inaccessible to me without the program.

I will say, however, that I actually like the idea of having a new Pell grant program for short workforce preparation programs. The CNA class at a community college in my area is $1200 because it is 8 credits. It is not eligible for financial aid because it is considered to be a certificate program less than 9 credits. Having Pell grants available for things like the CNA class could really help the severe labor shortage that is negatively affecting nursing home quality in my area and many others.
 
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would force schools to find a way to get less expensive. (If that is even possible.)
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It would be interesting to see what the cost to run higher ed elsewhere in the world is. Is it similar when adjusted for differences between the US and other areas? Cause I do feel there is a lot of excess, particularly in casual amenities, at universities. There doesn't need to be work out equipment and areas in every dorm, as an example. I linked a great YouTube video on cost of higher education from either Half as Interesting or Wendover Productions over on YouTube. A lot of cost is under utilized space and time tbh.
 
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