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I gave my dog lavender and verbena essential oils why does he still have parvo
 
StayingPositive2017 said:
I rubbed tea tree oil all over my dog. Why is he sick now and he still has fleas?
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Hi we don’t believe in chemicals. Do you practice holistic medicine? No ok we’re going to a vet that actually knows what they’re doing.
 
RedLauren said:
I gave my dog lavender and verbena essential oils why does he still have parvo
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The answer here is obvious, you didn't use the universal cure-all for every ailment that ever existed.....

Extra virgin, organic coconut oil.

Shame on you.
 
DVMDream said:
The answer here is obvious, you didn't use the universal cure-all for every ailment that ever existed.....

Extra virgin, organic coconut oil.

Shame on you.
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Lmao too real.
 
So I just saw incredibles 2 and it was completely ruined. PSA: if you are going to a movie theater that has reclining chairs and if you’re going to take your shoes off, make sure you don’t ruin the movie for others by making them smell your SMELLY A SS FEET FOR two hours. :yuck:
 
RedLauren said:
So I just saw incredibles 2 and it was completely ruined. PSA: if you are going to a movie theater that has reclining chairs and if you’re going to take your shoes off, make sure you don’t ruin the movie for others by making them smell your SMELLY A SS FEET FOR two hours. :yuck:
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My rule for all movies I want to see in theater.... wait at least one month (sometimes even 6 weeks) before going to see the movie. This ensures that most of the hype/crowds are gone and sometimes you get lucky enough to be the only person in the theater.
 
So I'm moving from to a new place WITH my current roommate. That's all to the good.

The problem is she wants to move all her stuff solo and not use/chip-in for a moving truck. All of the communal stuff is mine (entertainment unit, sofa, dining set, livingroom chair..) and her argument is that because she got rid of her sofa (for money) when she moved in that all of this falls on my shoulders. All of the communal stuff is my responsibility to move because I own it? This makes no freaking sense to me. She uses the stuff more than I do!

I wouldn't mind except I'm not sure how to find reliable help to move my stuff (we're in clinics so it's rough) and I got a professional moving quote for $500-$600 dollars. Which is a lot, on vet school loans.

This is weird, right? I'm not being unreasonable here? This whole thing has left a weird taste in my mouth and is making me rather upset..
 
flameshock said:
So I'm moving from to a new place WITH my current roommate. That's all to the good.

The problem is she wants to move all her stuff solo and not use/chip-in for a moving truck. All of the communal stuff is mine (entertainment unit, sofa, dining set, livingroom chair..) and her argument is that because she got rid of her sofa (for money) when she moved in that all of this falls on my shoulders. All of the communal stuff is my responsibility to move because I own it? This makes no freaking sense to me. She uses the stuff more than I do!

I wouldn't mind except I'm not sure how to find reliable help to move my stuff (we're in clinics so it's rough) and I got a professional moving quote for $500-$600 dollars. Which is a lot, on vet school loans.

This is weird, right? I'm not being unreasonable here? This whole thing has left a weird taste in my mouth and is making me rather upset..
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That's not very neighborly-roommate-y.... I understand the argument from both perspectives. Is she willing to compromise? Maybe not go professional moving but find help to move the communal stuff? Cause, yes, $500-600 is steep (since we'll be in debt FOREVER + /- 5 years)
 
flameshock said:
So I'm moving from to a new place WITH my current roommate. That's all to the good.

The problem is she wants to move all her stuff solo and not use/chip-in for a moving truck. All of the communal stuff is mine (entertainment unit, sofa, dining set, livingroom chair..) and her argument is that because she got rid of her sofa (for money) when she moved in that all of this falls on my shoulders. All of the communal stuff is my responsibility to move because I own it? This makes no freaking sense to me. She uses the stuff more than I do!

I wouldn't mind except I'm not sure how to find reliable help to move my stuff (we're in clinics so it's rough) and I got a professional moving quote for $500-$600 dollars. Which is a lot, on vet school loans.

This is weird, right? I'm not being unreasonable here? This whole thing has left a weird taste in my mouth and is making me rather upset..
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Do you have a class Facebook page? Post there asking if anyone has a truck and will help you load things up/move them or a truck you can borrow for a day. I moved during clinics too, I didn't have a lot, but some living room furniture and a bed. Paid a friend in pizza and beer, he helped load things up, drive to new apartment and unload. Took about an hour and a half.

Maybe that will work out? Can offer food or even $100, much cheaper still.
 
Uhaul truck rentals are also not suuuper expensive, iirc, especially if you’re not traveling super far with the truck (I think there’s a base rental rate and then a by the mile rate additional????)
 
SkiOtter said:
Uhaul truck rentals are also not suuuper expensive, iirc, especially if you’re not traveling super far with the truck (I think there’s a base rental rate and then a by the mile rate additional????)
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In my city it’s $20/day + $0.99/mile. So it really depends on how far you’re going.
 
Got a scolding by my current boss vet. Right before I'm about to scrub in as primary on a surgery I haven't seen or done since January. I can't stop replaying it now in my head and just keep feeling worse and more and more incompetent. Feels like crap. Only 1 more week on this rotation at least.
 
RedLauren said:
In my city it’s $20/day + $0.99/mile. So it really depends on how far you’re going.
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yeah, flames is moving apartments and is already AT school, so I assumed it'd be relatively close by which is why I suggested it. Definitely can get pricey if you're going far, but still cheaper than professional movers if you're not.
 
kcoughli said:
Got a scolding by my current boss vet. Right before I'm about to scrub in as primary on a surgery I haven't seen or done since January. I can't stop replaying it now in my head and just keep feeling worse and more and more incompetent. Feels like crap. Only 1 more week on this rotation at least.
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I hope surgery goes well! Unsupportive management is so frustrating 🙁
 
kcoughli said:
Got a scolding by my current boss vet. Right before I'm about to scrub in as primary on a surgery I haven't seen or done since January. I can't stop replaying it now in my head and just keep feeling worse and more and more incompetent. Feels like crap. Only 1 more week on this rotation at least.
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PrincessButterCup said:
I hope surgery goes well! Unsupportive management is so frustrating 🙁
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It did go well 🙂 Feeling much better, just needed to close up a uterus and abdomen to get my head screwed back on right.
 
Needing some advice on my current job situation. To be honest I'm not sure if this is normal treatment or not so honest opinions wanted please.

Background: I work at a specialty practice. I was hired under the job title of technician, but I always refer to myself as an assistant (that's what I'm putting on VMCAS) considering this was my first paid vet job. Anyways, I was very upfront with my clinical skill set being pretty limited when I interviewed for this job, but made it very clear that I wanted/was willing to learn anything they would be willing to teach me. So basically my boss (the vet who owns the practice) hired me because he liked my personality and he was willing to let me gain the skills I need from learning from the other techs. Well here's the issue...

I've been working here for a year now. All of the other techs are RVTs, and they literally hate that I work with them. They think that I'm a "lazy person off the street who comes in and thinks I can do their job", although I've explained to them that I do not get paid the same as an RVT, I am not lazy because I've been in school for 5 years, and that I have to have this kind of job because I'm applying for veterinary school this year and I want to have background knowledge of the vet world. I constantly praise them for having gone to tech school and have made it overwhelming clear that I do not view myself on the same "level" as them at this point. I'm a lowly pre-vet who wants to learn from them and from the vet. Anyways, the vet is always so busy that he has no idea what goes on with the techs. He doesn't know that they treat me poorly and he doesn't have time to teach me things himself. I have plateaued in terms of learning. They literally won't even let me draw blood, give injections, administer any medications, etc., when I actually had done all of those things when I volunteered way back in high school. Should I move on from this job because it's a hostile and unproductive work environment in terms of gaining knowledge? Or should I talk to the vet about what's happening? Is this normal for registered techs to be bitter towards the pre-vet coworkers who are just trying to learn from them? I ask them all the time if they will please show me how to do different things and they always say "you'll learn it in vet school" and walk off.

I seriously go home and cry a lot because it's hard to be called lazy when I've been working my butt off for 5 years and still have 4 more to go.

Help [emoji24]


Edit: I should add that I haven't talked to the vet about this before because he has worked with the head tech for like 10 years and I know he would become defensive of her if I ever even hinted anything negative about her. So I would have to be very careful with my wording.


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vethopeful_2 said:
Needing some advice on my current job situation. To be honest I'm not sure if this is normal treatment or not so honest opinions wanted please.

Background: I work at a specialty practice. I was hired under the job title of technician, but I always refer to myself as an assistant (that's what I'm putting on VMCAS) considering this was my first paid vet job. Anyways, I was very upfront with my clinical skill set being pretty limited when I interviewed for this job, but made it very clear that I wanted/was willing to learn anything they would be willing to teach me. So basically my boss (the vet who owns the practice) hired me because he liked my personality and he was willing to let me gain the skills I need from learning from the other techs. Well here's the issue...

I've been working here for a year now. All of the other techs are RVTs, and they literally hate that I work with them. They think that I'm a "lazy person off the street who comes in and thinks I can do their job", although I've explained to them that I do not get paid the same as an RVT, I am not lazy because I've been in school for 5 years, and that I have to have this kind of job because I'm applying for veterinary school this year and I want to have background knowledge of the vet world. I constantly praise them for having gone to tech school and have made it overwhelming clear that I do not view myself on the same "level" as them at this point. I'm a lowly pre-vet who wants to learn from them and from the vet. Anyways, the vet is always so busy that he has no idea what goes on with the techs. He doesn't know that they treat me poorly and he doesn't have time to teach me things himself. I have plateaued in terms of learning. They literally won't even let me draw blood, give injections, administer any medications, etc., when I actually had done all of those things when I volunteered way back in high school. Should I move on from this job because it's a hostile and unproductive work environment in terms of gaining knowledge? Or should I talk to the vet about what's happening? Is this normal for registered techs to be bitter towards the pre-vet coworkers who are just trying to learn from them? I ask them all the time if they will please show me how to do different things and they always say "you'll learn it in vet school" and walk off.

I seriously go home and cry a lot because it's hard to be called lazy when I've been working my butt off for 5 years and still have 4 more to go.

Help [emoji24]


Edit: I should add that I haven't talked to the vet about this before because he has worked with the head tech for like 10 years and I know he would become defensive of her if I ever even hinted anything negative about her. So I would have to be very careful with my wording.


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first of all, just from this post i can tell you aren't lazy. if you were lazy, you wouldn't be having a problem not being taught these things and you would not be reaching out for advice on what to do about this situation. keep your chin up.
i would definitely do something about it, whether it is talking to the vet or finding a new place to work, versus just letting it slide. all of the registered and unregistered techs i've worked with (both for my job and where i volunteer) have always been willing to show me things and were excited for me when i told them i got into school. the work environment you are currently in is toxic and not a good place to be. there's a chance it could get better with talking to the vet or it could even potentially get worse, depending on how catty the people you work with are. it's up to you if you want to talk to the vet and see if it'll get better or find a new job where they are more willing to teach you. if it were me, i would probably move on. good luck with either option you choose.

also, are you depending on this vet for your one required vet LOR??
 
SkiOtter said:
first of all, just from this post i can tell you aren't lazy. if you were lazy, you wouldn't be having a problem not being taught these things and you would not be reaching out for advice on what to do about this situation. keep your chin up.
i would definitely do something about it, whether it is talking to the vet or finding a new place to work, versus just letting it slide. all of the registered and unregistered techs i've worked with (both for my job and where i volunteer) have always been willing to show me things and were excited for me when i told them i got into school. the work environment you are currently in is toxic and not a good place to be. there's a chance it could get better with talking to the vet or it could even potentially get worse, depending on how catty the people you work with are. it's up to you if you want to talk to the vet and see if it'll get better or find a new job where they are more willing to teach you. if it were me, i would probably move on. good luck with either option you choose.

also, are you depending on this vet for your one required vet LOR??
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[emoji51] yes to your last question. I should've mentioned that because that's the extra factor that is making this hard for me. I wouldn't be able to make any big moves in terms of finding another job or having "the talk" with him until after I've asked for a letter (which I'm asking for this Friday actually).

I think what you said about it potentially getting worse or getting better is definitely the unfortunate reality. He and I have a good relationship, but at the end of the day he's die hard attached to the head tech and I just have a feeling that it would go south. Maybe I just need to wait it out a few months, and then explain to him that I need to work elsewhere in order to diversify my experiences (which is really true regardless of this whole scenario).

It's funny because I didn't even realize that being treated like this was abnormal until I took my dog for her annual a couple weeks ago. The RVT who did the appointment saw my scrubs and we started chatting about our jobs. She was so encouraging and didn't talk down to me at all. It was like I caught light of the other side of the fence for a moment and realized that the way they talk to me isn't actually normal.

Thanks for giving me the confidence to branch out and go elsewhere! I really wasn't sure if I was being too dramatic or not. I mean I tried to stick it out for at least a year in order to give it a fighting chance. But it's hurting my learning potential and confidence as a person honestly. Also, It's definitely nice to be reminded that I'm not actually lazy. So thank you for that [emoji846]


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vethopeful_2 said:
Needing some advice on my current job situation. To be honest I'm not sure if this is normal treatment or not so honest opinions wanted please.

Background: I work at a specialty practice. I was hired under the job title of technician, but I always refer to myself as an assistant (that's what I'm putting on VMCAS) considering this was my first paid vet job. Anyways, I was very upfront with my clinical skill set being pretty limited when I interviewed for this job, but made it very clear that I wanted/was willing to learn anything they would be willing to teach me. So basically my boss (the vet who owns the practice) hired me because he liked my personality and he was willing to let me gain the skills I need from learning from the other techs. Well here's the issue...

I've been working here for a year now. All of the other techs are RVTs, and they literally hate that I work with them. They think that I'm a "lazy person off the street who comes in and thinks I can do their job", although I've explained to them that I do not get paid the same as an RVT, I am not lazy because I've been in school for 5 years, and that I have to have this kind of job because I'm applying for veterinary school this year and I want to have background knowledge of the vet world. I constantly praise them for having gone to tech school and have made it overwhelming clear that I do not view myself on the same "level" as them at this point. I'm a lowly pre-vet who wants to learn from them and from the vet. Anyways, the vet is always so busy that he has no idea what goes on with the techs. He doesn't know that they treat me poorly and he doesn't have time to teach me things himself. I have plateaued in terms of learning. They literally won't even let me draw blood, give injections, administer any medications, etc., when I actually had done all of those things when I volunteered way back in high school. Should I move on from this job because it's a hostile and unproductive work environment in terms of gaining knowledge? Or should I talk to the vet about what's happening? Is this normal for registered techs to be bitter towards the pre-vet coworkers who are just trying to learn from them? I ask them all the time if they will please show me how to do different things and they always say "you'll learn it in vet school" and walk off.

I seriously go home and cry a lot because it's hard to be called lazy when I've been working my butt off for 5 years and still have 4 more to go.

Help [emoji24]


Edit: I should add that I haven't talked to the vet about this before because he has worked with the head tech for like 10 years and I know he would become defensive of her if I ever even hinted anything negative about her. So I would have to be very careful with my wording.


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I’m totally anti-working at a place that makes you cry. When are you applying to vet school? Do you have time to find another clinic and build a relationship with another vet? If you applying this cycle and think the vet will write you a good LOR, I’d probably tough it out for the summer. Otherwise? Adios.
 
mmmdreamerz said:
I’m totally anti-working at a place that makes you cry. When are you applying to vet school? Do you have time to find another clinic and build a relationship with another vet? If you applying this cycle and think the vet will write you a good LOR, I’d probably tough it out for the summer. Otherwise? Adios.
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Haha, you'd think I'd be anti-crying work environments too but I think my standards have lowered over the years lol

I'm applying this cycle. Also this vet has talked for the last year about "that really great letter he's going to write for me!" so I agree that I prob need to stay here until after that's taken care of. I guess I'll stick it out for a little while longer and then look for a place where I can grow. I just want to be helpful and learn stuffs!!!!!!! [emoji51]

Thank you guys. Really. [emoji177]


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vethopeful_2 said:
Haha, you'd think I'd be anti-crying work environments too but I think my standards have lowered over the years lol

I'm applying this cycle. Also this vet has talked for the last year about "that really great letter he's going to write for me!" so I agree that I prob need to stay here until after that's taken care of. I guess I'll stick it out for a little while longer and then look for a place where I can grow. I just want to be helpful and learn stuffs!!!!!!! [emoji51]

Thank you guys. Really. [emoji177]


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When you ask for a letter, talk the vet up and ask questions like “what clinical skills do you think are most helpful to learn before starting vet school.” If he mentions things you haven’t been trained to do or haven’t been allowed to do very often, let him know that you would really love to further develop your skill set. Hopefully he would direct his staff to continue training you accordingly. If not, maybe you can start planning an amicable exit.
 
I agree that the work environment sounds less than ideal and potentially toxic. No one should be ridiculing you or making you feel like you can't do anything. Get your letter but also I would still mention it to the vet. Let him know that you were very excited to start working with him since he placed such an importance on you learning. Let him know that you would really like to take the next step with learning including giving injections, drawing blood, etc. Come from a place in which you are approaching him about learning more instead of a place in which the other techs are being rude to you about it. When he asks why you haven't done these things, then bring up that you have asked the techs but they haven't taught you yet despite your asking.

It is entirely possible that he doesn't realize they aren't training you on these things and they may not think that the vet wants you learning these things.
Nothing will change unless something is mentioned.

The other option is to just leave and try elsewhere, but it is possible you could run into a similar issue, though hopefully not.

This does give you opportunity to professionally address potential "conflict" or "something that wasn't going right for you.".... you know those stupid, pesky interview questions that come up that ask "Tell us about a time when you had to deal with conflict" or "Tell us about time in which something wasn't working out for you, how you approached it and what the outcome was."

Nobody will know you are having a hard time if you don't speak up and then the vet may be blind-sided when you go to quit when he may have actually been helpful in resolving the tension.
 
Jess Monster said:
When you ask for a letter, talk the vet up and ask questions like “what clinical skills do you think are most helpful to learn before starting vet school.” If he mentions things you haven’t been trained to do or haven’t been allowed to do very often, let him know that you would really love to further develop your skill set. Hopefully he would direct his staff to continue training you accordingly. If not, maybe you can start planning an amicable exit.
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Oooo I like the way you worded that! The reality is that I am truly just trying to solve the issue of a learning plateau. So if I could resolve this at my current practice, I would be fine with that. I'm not super hopeful because they continually say that I'm "lazy because I didn't go to tech school before getting this job", but maybe if I could get clear direction from the vet then I could verbally let the others know that he wants me to practice these things when they try to withhold help in the future.


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DVMDream said:
I agree that the work environment sounds less than ideal and potentially toxic. No one should be ridiculing you or making you feel like you can't do anything. Get your letter but also I would still mention it to the vet. Let him know that you were very excited to start working with him since he placed such an importance on you learning. Let him know that you would really like to take the next step with learning including giving injections, drawing blood, etc. Come from a place in which you are approaching him about learning more instead of a place in which the other techs are being rude to you about it. When he asks why you haven't done these things, then bring up that you have asked the techs but they haven't taught you yet despite your asking.

It is entirely possible that he doesn't realize they aren't training you on these things and they may not think that the vet wants you learning these things.
Nothing will change unless something is mentioned.

The other option is to just leave and try elsewhere, but it is possible you could run into a similar issue, though hopefully not.

This does give you opportunity to professionally address potential "conflict" or "something that wasn't going right for you.".... you know those stupid, pesky interview questions that come up that ask "Tell us about a time when you had to deal with conflict" or "Tell us about time in which something wasn't working out for you, how you approached it and what the outcome was."

Nobody will know you are having a hard time if you don't speak up and then the vet may be blind-sided when you go to quit when he may have actually been helpful in resolving the tension.
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I really appreciate your insight on this! Totally agree that I don't need to come at it with a "complain-y" attitude. It will be really interesting to see what his response is when I talk to him about it. Id bet that he likely has no idea about any of this.

And I laughed out loud when you mentioned that this is a good vet school interview question scenario. I want to be able to look back and feel like I took a professional route when faced with conflict. I tend to let people run over me because I'm so concerned with being kind that I don't stand up for myself... but I realize that's a personality flaw that needs to be fixed. Clients will run over me if I don't put on my big girl pants so hopefully this will be a good stepping stone haha. Thank you!! [emoji846]


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Today my boyfriend and I moved from our apartment into a temporary sublease until we go to Colorado in August. During the chaos of moving, my 13 year old kitty, Marley ran away. We found him about an hour later, THANK GOD. I was so upset I couldn’t even keep it together when we were looking for him. I love him so so much and I don’t know what I’d do knowing he was lost. We found him about and hour ago but I cant seem to shake the feeling of anxiety. What a day.
 
RedLauren said:
Today my boyfriend and I moved from our apartment into a temporary sublease until we go to Colorado in August. During the chaos of moving, my 13 year old kitty, Marley ran away. We found him about an hour later, THANK GOD. I was so upset I couldn’t even keep it together when we were looking for him. I love him so so much and I don’t know what I’d do knowing he was lost. We found him about and hour ago but I cant seem to shake the feeling of anxiety. What a day.
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I couldn't even imagine. My worst fear. I'm glad you found him and hopefully you are getting all the kitty cuddles.
 
JaynaAli said:
Winston was lost for four hours once. It was horrible, more so because I was visiting a friend and wasn't in my own neighborhood where he could find his way home. I'm glad you found Marley though!
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Thank you! I’m glad you found your Winston too. 😍
 
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He’s feeling much better. A little dirty but we’re okay with that 🙂
 
RedLauren said:
Awww they even have the same little bald spots! Grey kitties are the cutest.
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I love my little gray kitty, she has a coat as soft as a chinchilla. It also means I find her fur EVERYWHERE, because she sheds similar to how a husky would with her double coat, but it oh-so-soft.
 
DVMDream said:
I love my little gray kitty, she has a coat as soft as a chinchilla. It also means I find her fur EVERYWHERE, because she sheds similar to how a husky would with her double coat, but it oh-so-soft.
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Yup. I know it well.
 
RedLauren said:
Today my boyfriend and I moved from our apartment into a temporary sublease until we go to Colorado in August. During the chaos of moving, my 13 year old kitty, Marley ran away. We found him about an hour later, THANK GOD. I was so upset I couldn’t even keep it together when we were looking for him. I love him so so much and I don’t know what I’d do knowing he was lost. We found him about and hour ago but I cant seem to shake the feeling of anxiety. What a day.
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So glad you found him. So scary. One time I was home visiting my parents and one of my girls escaped because someone left the door open. I was totally hysterical, searching everywhere. Finally turned a corner and she was just laying on the sidewalk, chilling. Cats.
 
DVMDream said:
I love my little gray kitty, she has a coat as soft as a chinchilla. It also means I find her fur EVERYWHERE, because she sheds similar to how a husky would with her double coat, but it oh-so-soft.
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Mine is the same! She’s actually a dilute tortie but mostly grey. Her fur is sooooooooo soft. I don’t have the shedding problem with her though.
 
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