Refinance now or later?

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castafari

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Are most of you refinancing as residents and fellows or waiting to be an attending. I'm currently a fellow and moonlighting part time. I have a really bad offer from Sofi. I was wondering if I should keep shopping around or wait another 6-7 months to be working full time as an attending?
 
Are most of you refinancing as residents and fellows or waiting to be an attending. I'm currently a fellow and moonlighting part time. I have a really bad offer from Sofi. I was wondering if I should keep shopping around or wait another 6-7 months to be working full time as an attending?
refinancing what?
 
Are most of you refinancing as residents and fellows or waiting to be an attending. I'm currently a fellow and moonlighting part time. I have a really bad offer from Sofi. I was wondering if I should keep shopping around or wait another 6-7 months to be working full time as an attending?

Without more relevant information there really is no way to sensibly answer your question.
 
I have refinanced with DRB and they were able to give me a rate 1.5 points lower than my previous company. Sofi wouldn't go that low and would only accept some of my loans. The process was very easy also.
 
I waited til attendinghood. Went from 5.8 to 1.9 with Earnest. May be worth waiting the 5 months you have left...
 
Did IBR, and barely made a dent. Hated seeing 5.8% interest on every statement, so that my payments didn't do anything to the principal.
 
Did IBR, and barely made a dent. Hated seeing 5.8% interest on every statement, so that my payments didn't do anything to the principal.
How long ago did you refinance?
I have refinanced before, but then my loans got bought by another company so wondering if I could refinance again.
 
i did IRB as resident. Wondering if I should refinance now as fellow with income around 100k including moonlighting but a ****ty deal from Sofi so far (rate from 6.8% to around 5.8%) or wait for a much better deal 7 months from now when my income goes way up? Is there any harm in refinancing twice in one year? I sent in application to DRB today for a better deal
 
i did IRB as resident. Wondering if I should refinance now as fellow with income around 100k including moonlighting but a ****ty deal from Sofi so far (rate from 6.8% to around 5.8%) or wait for a much better deal 7 months from now when my income goes way up? Is there any harm in refinancing twice in one year? I sent in application to DRB today for a better deal
Lots more options to check out than just sofi and drb.
http://whitecoatinvestor.com/new-players-in-student-loan-refinancing/
 
I used SoFi a year and a half ago. I had been an attending for a year at the time. Some have had better experiences with DRB, some with SoFi. SoFi was much better for me, so I went with them. The other players might be good now.

Refinancing as a resident is brand new. If you are getting 5 rates you must be looking at fixed rates. Don't do that. Look at the variable rates with a short timeframe. If you do what all the financial wizards say and live like a resident the first few years of attendinghood, you should currently be able to come out ahead.

White Coat Investor does have some good reviews on his site. But he now only promotes those who are paid advertisers. He is quite open about that in his yearly financial disclosure. You'll still get a good deal, and he probably covers the biggest and best refinancers out there, but there could be others not on his website that would work well, too.

Good luck.
 
Guys - my own personal experience was that waiting til you have attending income (which should be MUCH better than even fellow-with-moonlighting income) will look much better in the eyes of the refinancing company. Your income-to-debt ratio is better, simply put.

@castafari: If I read that right, SoFi offered to take you from 6.8% to 5.8%? Fu*k that noise - that sucks. Just keep making payments so you get in the habit of it, and wait the 5 months you have left until you have attending $$$ before you refinance. Like I said - I went from 5.8 to <2. (Full disclosure: wife is an attending physician as well)

@chocomorsel: I refi'ed in September 2015, which would have been about 1 month into working as an attending. I have no idea on the particulars about whether you can refi again.

Take your time to do due diligence on this - there are probably like 8 or 10 different places that will refinance with competitive rates. I used Earnest, which worked well for me. I elected to take a variable rate, which works for me since I'm trying to clobber debt early with the lowest possible interest rate, but other companies might offer better/different perks that work better for your individual situation.

Look at anything on The Google about this topic and you'll find options - I just found www.magnifymoney.com - which lists almost 20 different refi companies that offer different options. Search them out, and see what works. But if you have attending money and are still paying 6.8%, my humble opinion is you are overpaying, given the refi options.
 
I've been doing income based repayment for the last 5 years. Is it worth refinancing or betting on loan forgiveness via IBR? Anyone else stick with IBR in the long run?
 
I've been doing income based repayment for the last 5 years. Is it worth refinancing or betting on loan forgiveness via IBR? Anyone else stick with IBR in the long 2017 when the first group of people will be eligible for the supposed loan forgiveness


2017 is when the first group of people will be eligible for the supposed loan forgiveness under IBR. If you've already been paying for 5 years it might be worth it to see how it pans out. However, I'm not optimistic that the .gov is going to come up with millions if not billions of dollars to pay off physician loans.
 
2017 is when the first group of people will be eligible for the supposed loan forgiveness under IBR. If you've already been paying for 5 years it might be worth it to see how it pans out. However, I'm not optimistic that the .gov is going to come up with millions if not billions of dollars to pay off physician loans.

Kaz - EXACTLY. I simply can't believe that the government would allow physicians (the students who are almost 100% assured to make enough to pay off all education debt) to "get away" with not paying every penny.

Additionally, I couldn't get a straight answer from anyone on the question "Is the forgiven part of my loan taxed as income?".
 
I did Sofi as a young attending this fall. . The variable rate is like 2.7%. They keep sending me presents too. Pumpkin pie, t-shirts, bottle openers, etc. I joke with my wife that a rich old lady in San Francisco named Sofi paid off my loans and likes sending me gifts because she is bored. I have a $100 bonus code if anyone wants. Just pm me.
 
Kaz - EXACTLY. I simply can't believe that the government would allow physicians (the students who are almost 100% assured to make enough to pay off all education debt) to "get away" with not paying every penny.

Additionally, I couldn't get a straight answer from anyone on the question "Is the forgiven part of my loan taxed as income?".
Pretty sure the answer to that is a big fat yes for IBR if you do the forgiveness at 25 years. PSLF forgiveness at 10 years is not taxable.
 
If you all want individualized answers, you gotta post loan amount, interest rate, current/future income and tax brackets etc. Here is some general advice/experience.

I refi'd about $80K through DRB, taking a bunch of 4-5%+ loans to 2.6% ish variable. While it was ultimately effective, it was far from pleasant. Their tech/online experience is awful, and I actually gave up on an attempt to refi more with them because they couldn't get their act straight with their underwriter. After weeks and weeks of phone calls, I gave up; I was a bit surprised that they didn't actually seem to care, either.

Sofi, on the other hand, has way better tech/online experience but they are more choosy financially as to which loans they'll refi, and it seems like their rates tend to be higher, so you may not get what you want with them either.
 
I am 6 months out of fellowship. I was originally going to do IBR, until I recently switched jobs and I did not qualify any longer for loan forgiveness.

After shopping around (earnest, commonbond, DRB) I refinanced my loans with SoFi.

I went with SoFi because it was a straightforward process, and took only a few days to get everything together. Whereas, with Earnest, they required some other paper work, work contracts, letters., etc.

I went from a 6.8% rate down to a 5.1% with a 15 year fixed. Which I got the similar rates for the other lenders.

I looked into variable rates; however, I decided to go with a fixed rate for the sake of not worrying about fluctuations in interest rates with the potential of it going up.
 
I refinanced with DRB 10-yr fixed 4.5%.

Some paperwork involved, took about 2 months total, not too bad though and will definitely save a lot of money.
 
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