Highly doubtful since I assume you would have 0 experience with pharm and pod as compared to other applicants to those programs, so that makes no sense.... The only one I would consider is the masters since that could help if you have a low undergrad GPA but I've never heard of this type of transfer before 🤷 and I would be cautious in assuming it is a guaranteed interview.
I don't know about interviewing, but they would take a look if you are really interested. Those specific programs probably want/need more applications to fill their class, and it is a check to see if your interest lies in working in the area in any role rather than just in dentistry.
I knew an orthopedic surgeon who said that of those who had not gotten accepted into his DO medical school, they, the school, would take the students who got rejected and take their application and apply for them to the DPM podiatry school at the same university...so it's not completely unheard of. But yes, it wouldn't guarantee an interview, just let the students "cross-apply", so to speak.
Now they are asking him/her/them to spend that money at their pharmacy school
It's more common than you think. We push rejected applicants to consider our SMP and other health professions programs at our reputable nonprofit med school too.
There’s never a guarantee for anything. It’s a cash grab, don’t fall for it.
Very likely
How do you mean? Aren't you applying to become a pharmacist just like pre-pharms applying to pharm schools? Are you talking about the tuition of the pharm school there?
Which is way too expensive, the dental or pharm school?
You’re not applying to pharmacy, you’re applying to dentistry and they’ve deemed your app not good enough for their school so they’re trying to see if you just want to go into healthcare or if your passions are solely dentistry. idk About pharm schools but I know that some of them are predatory and are willing to do anything to fill a class. Don’t fall for it.
Both schools are very expensive at midwestern since it’s private
Do you want to be a dentist, or a pharmacist? There is no wrong answer here, but decide on one and stick to it.
Definitely dental, more than likely both.
Is this solely based upon your opinion? I agree that luring applicants to other non-professional programs like masters/etc is pure marketing, but I do not see how applying to pharm school is predatory considering pharmacist is one of desired jobs like dentists, and naturally won't have filling up their class.
It's predatory in that they are trying to sway someone, and if someone can be swayed, more than likely they did not do their due diligence and research and then they get screwed with extremely high loan amounts when they choose the other school on a whim. Look, no offense to PharmD's, but for the amount of tuition and time it takes to get their training... an associate's degree RN doing locums and travel will beat them, not to mention get treated better by the corporate world of hospitals. But I digress. This isn't just mine or Rysndek's opinion, it looks like princeafrica, allDAT, and PerioDont agree here too, I think.
Well said
So you have a problem with pharmacy programs/and the career as a pharmacist in general, not specifically Midwestern's way of swaying dental applicants?
A lot of pharmacy schools have opened up where they charge large amounts of tuition and the cost of the degree outweighs how much they might make. There’s a lot less regulation In pharmacy than in dentistry in regards to new schools opening. We are just saying to be weary of changing professions where the degree costs a lot. If you applied to dental school you had reasons, don’t doubt yourself because a school is offering an other way out.
I have my own beef with specific pharmacists, and lab techs, and ancillary services in general in the life of working in a hospital setting, of which I will not get into here. But avoiding that, yes, I do have a lot to say about pharmacy programs and the career outlook of PharmD's in general. Some of it is (I will not be afraid to admit it) hearsay, and not at all from firsthand experience. What do you want to know?
Ah I see. I do not know anything about pharmacy school tuition. Midwestern's 3-year (most pharm schools are 4-year, right?) sounds very attractive to me, and yearly tuition looks definitely cheaper than dental school. Also I heard that fresh grads make at least 100k right out working in CVS or sth. I am considering this program if I am accepted to only expensive dental schools this cycle. I mean...looking at rough numbers on websites the avg annual salary of dentist and pharmacists is like 30k~50k difference? I think it's a stable job in my layman opinion...But you gave me a new insight thank you
I'm just a layman, but Midwestern's 3-year pharm program sounded very attractive to me (when most are 4-year, am I right?), not to mention their cheaper tuition compared to dental school (this goes without saying really but still...). Also known avg salary for pharmicists is not bad, like early 100ks? I mean I don't know, within my knowledge I think pharmacist isn't bad...
Don’t forget about taxes And heavy interests rates on student loans! While you may owe less going to pharmacy you’re going to ultimately be making less while a dentist may make more as they grow their skills and have the potential of buying a practice. Gotta look at the bigger picture rather than simply wages. But if pharmacy is something that interests you, I’d try to go somewhere that’s the cheapest and take your time researching the field rather than just jumping in. It’s a big decision to go to professional school so you wanna make sure you’re making the best decision for yourself.
I just read this now, Pharm schools across the nation, in general, are struggling to fill their class? Is this true?
So you are saying although dental schools have higher tuition they will pay off better in future, in the long run, right?
Yes to some extent. You have better career advancement opportunities. I would visit the pre-pharm forum to gain some insight since this is a dental forum.
Thank you. I guess I was misled in thinking that I have a good backup plan if I am rejected by all dental schools. Thank you.
Honestly, learning from these forums and also learning after applying. There’s a lot of knowledge that’s kept from you from these schools and industry unless you ask questions!
Prepare for the interview...?
I've done a lot of research on podiatry and it all seems very interesting. I could find an interest in this as I have a family of diabetics with nasty feet.
Did you fill out and submit an AACPMAS application? If so, they won't know. If you have permission to transfer your AADSAS application over, then it's possible. If course they will ask you why Podiatry and your experiences. But it's up to you and your career goals... but you should answer honestly rather than try to play the game.
I didn't fill that out. They emailed me with a link to fill out some info (attached) and i chose podiatry. I will make sure to be honest but I will try to showcase my interest still as it's not something that I would decline if I didn't get any dental acceptances.
Got the rejection from mw and received the email for transfer a couple days after.
Podiatry forums are similarly pessimistic.
And it isn't one of those "grass is greener on the other side" of pictures either. It's not like dentists bemoaning "oh, I should've become a physician, they get to (list pros of medicine here while ignoring the cons)" and physicians/surgeons stating at the same time "oh woe is me, I should've gone into dentistry, they get to (insert pros of dentistry here while also ignoring the cons)". No, the career outlook of pharmacy, coupled with the amount of time and money it takes to become one, makes it hard to justify the time and financial means needed to become one. At least with dentistry, if done at the correct (cheap) school and with some good advice heeded from WCI, it still makes financial sense to pursue it.
