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Well, its a shame that the majority of voters determine whats legal and not whats right. Weren't we debating the latter?

 

[OncoCaP]

Dude you REALLY need to take a chill pill. Just because the guy was smoking pot with one of his med student friends on interview day does not mean the guy is a stoner.

Doesn't mean he isn't. If he's smoking on interview day at the med school, that's certainly unusual.

You are making a false assumption.

How do you know this person? Maybe he is a regular user, maybe not. We don't have that information.

For every "stoner" (we'll define this as a person who smokes weed several times a week or more), there are 10 people who smoke recreationally, as in once every month, every 6 months, or every year.

How do you know this?

If this guy was a stoner, it would be hard to believe he'd keep a good GPA, nail the MCATs, and maintain a decent array of EC's enough to interview for medical schools and/or get accepted.

Based on what?

If you have smoked before, you know it can take you out of your rhythm sometimes, especially if you do it often.

Some people are so smart, it doesn't matter. They do well anyway.

Sure, abusing marijuana has definite consequences. But abusing ANYTHING would. ...

Sure. So don't abuse them.

Just because marijuana is illegal and cigarettes and alcohol aren't, doesn't make it worse. You've obviously never smoked weed before. I consider cigarettes and alcohol way worse. That list of negative effects of marijuana.. compare that to the negative effects of cigarettes and you'll notice a significant disparity.

Yes, cigarettes and alcohol have issues associated with them, which is why our OP would probably complain about a med student and interviewee enjoying a beer at the med school as well.

Fact of the matter is, smoking marijuana once every blue moon is NOT that big of a deal. Just like drinking once a week isn't, or gambling when you go to vegas, or loading up on expressos during finals week. And don't bring LSD, shrooms, heroin into this, because those drugs are CLEARLY on a much different level than marijuana. Weed is on the same level as drinking, maybe even less.. alcohol impairs you considerably more in my opinion. How can you justify that this person is so horribly evil for smoking pot as to warrant a complaint?

You have no idea how often the people involved smoke. We don't have that information. How many people were smoking pot between interviews when you were interviewing? Does that seem a little bit out of the ordinary to you?

You're the one making assumptions. I'm just stating what we know, which is that marijuana abuse is a problem for many. Whether it's a bigger problem than alcohol is really irrelevant to this discussion. Both can be problematic. I could just as easily see the OP complain about a med student and interviewee getting drunk and then getting into a car and swerving all over the road.

Anyway, I'm going to go work out. Hope you all have a good evening.

 

[SIREN]

I think it comes down to your attitudes about smoking pot and the profession of medicine. If you see smoking pot as similar to having beer or cigarette, then you probably wouldn't worry about it. If you saw it as something obscene, then you probably would feel like complaining. It comes down to your values, what you thought was wrong. If the majority of Americans think smoking pot is no big deal, why is it illegal? The majority of voters do think recreational use of pot is a big deal and want to keep it outlawed, and so it is, for now, anyway.

I disagree with this, only because I am against pot, period. I don't think it's the same as alcohol or cigarettes. However, if you sincerely want to bring about change, then do something worthwhile, without assuming the role of possibly destroying someone's life, and possibly the lives of many others. He can write a letter or meet with Dean or AdComs and inform them of what he witnessed that day, and how he feels they should address this, without naming or singling out one or two people. This way the school, can address everyone and issue a warning that other visitors witnessed their vile behavior and were offended as a result.

 

[hairyhuang]

If we all got stoned and read this thread, it'd be ****in hilarious

 

[scgroat]

It sounds to me like someone didn't get out enough during their college days. By the way, I'd prefer a stoner with much videogame experience to an alcoholic who does something that is technically legal when it comes down to who's cracking open my heart. If you disagree, so be it. I better not see you snitches exceeding the speed limit, with your seatbelt off, or jaywalking. Grow up and realize that a little chiefing doesn't automatically mean you don't care about being a good doctor.

 

[valiteq]

I think it comes down to your attitudes about smoking pot and the profession of medicine. If you see smoking pot as similar to having beer or cigarette, then you probably wouldn't worry about it.

The thing is... I do see smoking pot as similar to having a beer or cigarette. And I believe it should be legalized. But I also think (and I suspect that most adcom members would agree) that someone willing to risk jail time, exposure to un-regulated substances and the lives of others (by driving while stoned) to get high, is not someone who is ready to be responsible for a patients life.

 

[Kaydubz]

I think it comes down to your attitudes about smoking pot and the profession of medicine. If you see smoking pot as similar to having beer or cigarette, then you probably wouldn't worry about it. If you saw it as something obscene, then you probably would feel like complaining. It comes down to your values, what you thought was wrong. If the majority of Americans think smoking pot is no big deal, why is it illegal? The majority of voters do think recreational use of pot is a big deal and want to keep it outlawed, and so it is, for now, anyway.

It's illegal because we wanted to blame everything on the Mexicans way back when.

- The Lancet

 

[SIREN]

The thing is... I do see smoking pot as similar to having a beer or cigarette. And I believe it should be legalized. But I also think (and I suspect that most adcom members would agree) that someone willing to risk jail time, exposure to un-regulated substances and the lives of others (by driving while stoned) to get high, is not someone who is ready to be responsible for a patients life.

You have just contradicted yourself big time. If you believe pot should be legal, and that it is similar to cigarettes and alcohol, what is your real reason for wanting to report the two students and possibly destroy their futures, which, by the way, it's sounds as if they are more than capable of doing this without your assistance. If you feel pot should be legal, like cigarettes, what's the difference in a doctor smoking a cigarette while on break? While I believe the students were irresponsible, they were not driving or treating patients, and this could have very well been an isolated incident. I am just surprised to hear you say that you think pot should be legal, but yet want to get someone else in trouble for smoking it. 🙁

 

[cheezer]

So - at an interview, an applicant and a medical student were smoking pot... what do you do?

no i wouldn't report them. smoking a joint in broad daylight is quite ballsy and requires a great deal of courage.

doctors need courage

courage is american

you're not anti-american...are you?

 

[shotdiscus]

"If you do not smoke this, we have a problem." -- Wayne Brady

 

[Bito42]

ask yourself... would you report this person to the police if you saw them at a party? If not, then some other competativeness may be factoring in.

 

[SIREN]

There are two questions here: you're respect for someone who uses pot, and your respect for someone who is willing to break the law. It's perfectly possible to not feel that strongly about the act itself (thinking pot is harmless) and still be very annoyed that the candidate would be willing to risk his future and jail time just to get high.

I agree to disagree. Yes, of course he can still be "very annoyed", that is not the issue. This issue is him acting on his 'annoyance' and his role in taking steps to risk someone else's future even though he thinks smoking pot is harmless, his motives are questionable. I respect someone's innocence until they are proven guilty. If he wants to play Inspector Gadget and squander all his time and risk the ruin of his reputation by throwing around 'unfounded' accusations then by all means he is well within his rights to do so. 🙂

ask yourself... would you report this person to the police if you saw them at a party? If not, then some other competativeness may be factoring in.

Exactly. 🙂

 

[Cirrus83]

OP, you are either a troll or a troll without the r. But either way, you should report it just to show the adcoms what a tool you are. For one thing you're attempting to report something with zero proof. What is the school going to do? Bust into the student's apartment illegally to prove it?

And for that matter, how exactly do you plan on reporting an illegal stash in someone's home when you don't know where they live. Based on you watching them smoke something? Here's a news flash, the cops don't actually have that much time to go around busting random people who just smoke weed, whose addresses you don't even know.

lol, in fact, I pretty much insist that you do call the cops, and record the conversation and then upload it here, just because I would love to hear how the police respond to this toolishness.

Oh, and in NY state it's a civil offense, so all that would happen would be a ticket for $250. Actually, the cops wouldn't even be able to get a warrant to search the med student's house just because you can't get a warrant based on some kid seeing someone smoke weed. So unless you can somehow link the medical student to a terrorist cell or something you're out of luck there.

And for the record? No I don't think people should be smoking weed on a medical school campus, but the OP's posts are just plain ridiculous. Seriously, wtf. If it really bugged the OP he should have stopped the med student from driving away while stoned and handled the problem then and there.

 

[Kaydubz]

he's a toll?

oh, i see what you did there.

👍

OP, you are either a troll or a troll without the r. But either way, you should report it just to show the adcoms what a tool you are. For one thing you're attempting to report something with zero proof. What is the school going to do? Bust into the student's apartment illegally to prove it?

And for that matter, how exactly do you plan on reporting an illegal stash in someone's home when you don't know where they live. Based on you watching them smoke something? Here's a news flash, the cops don't actually have that much time to go around busting random people who just smoke weed, whose addresses you don't even know.

lol, in fact, I pretty much insist that you do call the cops, and record the conversation and then upload it here, just because I would love to hear how the police respond to this toolishness.

Oh, and in NY state it's a civil offense, so all that would happen would be a ticket for $250. Actually, the cops wouldn't even be able to get a warrant to search the med student's house just because you can't get a warrant based on some kid seeing someone smoke weed. So unless you can somehow link the medical student to a terrorist cell or something you're out of luck there.

And for the record? No I don't think people should be smoking weed on a medical school campus, but the OP's posts are just plain ridiculous. Seriously, wtf. If it really bugged the OP he should have stopped the med student from driving away while stoned and handled the problem then and there.

 

[bulletproof]

So - at an interview, an applicant and a medical student were smoking pot... what do you do?

You make a mental note of the stupidity involved in doing this in broad daylight, and then you go home, and get on with your own life. The fact that you felt the need to ask about this in a public forum raises major concerns as to whether or not you have the common sense/practicality to cut it in Med. school and beyond. It amazes me that you have been to high school, and college, and can't figure this "conundrum" out.

As for the "its illegal" argument......*barf* Read up on the history of alcohol and other substances of abuse in this country. Would you have reported the same individuals for sharing a beer post-interview during prohibition?

You are not the moral police. And the fact that you posted this worthless thread is testament to the fact that you are in desperate need of A LIFE.

 

[slclp]

I would have no problem minding my own beeswax... except that is illegal. Otherwise its not any worse than having a beer - but I wouldn't want a physician operating on a member of my family if they were willing to risk their career to get high.

so if you saw an applicant/interviewee that you knew you knew to be under the age of 21 drinking an alcoholic beverage after the interview you would report them because it's illegal?

i highly doubt it.

 

[inaminute]

wow

this brings back memories of junior high. One group was trying way hard to be cool, smoking weed and calling the other group (who thought it was destructive, pointless, silly, immature) names meant to teach those nonsmokers a LESSON about being NARCS or SNITCHES. LMAO. And how old are most of you? the reason you are being so childish about the op's question is you are PISSED that if you get caught being "cool" your career won't be as an MD.

grow up.

OP, I think it was disturbing that those two were so unconcerned about what they were doing. Frankly, I think you should have called the cops THEN and walked away. If it was "cool" and "everyone thinks it's okay" none of these people here would be howling at the possibility that you might have turned those two children in. Consequences for your own actions aren't someone else's fault, they're YOURS, and trying to bully people who correctly state that you are wrong is pathetic.

 

[mirakate]

wow

this brings back memories of junior high. One group was trying way hard to be cool, smoking weed and calling the other group (who thought it was destructive, pointless, silly, immature) names meant to teach those nonsmokers a LESSON about being NARCS or SNITCHES. LMAO. And how old are most of you? the reason you are being so childish about the op's question is you are PISSED that if you get caught being "cool" your career won't be as an MD.

grow up.

OP, I think it was disturbing that those two were so unconcerned about what they were doing. Frankly, I think you should have called the cops THEN and walked away. If it was "cool" and "everyone thinks it's okay" none of these people here would be howling at the possibility that you might have turned those two children in. Consequences for your own actions aren't someone else's fault, they're YOURS, and trying to bully people who correctly state that you are wrong is pathetic.

*applauds*

 

[inaminute]

*applauds*

*curtseys*

 

[TexanGal]

Personally, I would. I hear all that stuff about nobody liking a snitch... but (and maybe this is highly unrealistic of me) I think that medical students/wanna-be's should be more responsible and health conscious than to sink to the level of doing drugs that simply only mess you up. Just my two cents.

 

[inaminute]

Personally, I would. I hear all that stuff about nobody liking a snitch... but (and maybe this is highly unrealistic of me) I think that medical students/wanna-be's should be more responsible and health conscious than to sink to the level of doing drugs that simply only mess you up. Just my two cents.

not to mention that one of the people he saw hopped in a car and drove off...wonder if anyone would be so nonchalant about that guy killing their kid in a crosswalk?

 

[TexanGal]

inaminute, I'm glad you have a brain on you.

I guess I missed the memo where it became okay to stay quiet in times of moral dilemmas where you should speak up. Who knows, like you said, maybe getting these kids in a bit of trouble might save someone's life later down the road.

 

[GatorPhD]

Ask the gentlemen to please stop. If they blow smoke in your face and laugh, pull out a butterfly knife. Round house kick the med student while throwing signal flares in the air. Call the cops, knife the interviewer in the back, and tie both of them together with masking tape. Set the med student on fire and wait for the cops to show up. When the popo arrive, you're free to SPRINT to the deans office and tell him what happened.

😆HAHA!! LMAO!! That's the funniest thing I've read in a while.

 

[akademix]

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[waytosuck]

This really amazes me... just like the other thread.

I mean.. I knew people were out there that would actually be the type of douche to report someone lighting up a joint but damn... THAT MANY?

GET INFORMED.

If you saw them drinking a beer you wouldn't report them.. and guess what (at least in my state) drinking in public is against the law too.

Blah.. I'm not even gonna bother. I wasted all my pro-pothead energy on the other weed thread.

 

[SoFlaKnight]

Were you or anyone else being directly adversely affected by them doing this? The answer is an emphatic, N to the O...

Most people forget about a little thing called Self Responsibility. As adults, they must live with the consequences of their actions if they get caught, what should you care?...Hell, maybe it was a really stressful interview?🙄

 

[inaminute]

shawwtaaay, i think yall really needta see cam'ron with anderson cooper on 60 mins so i can introduce you to a little something called stop snitchin....(the video be mad funny), but i be a firm beleiver dat if it aint yo business stay out of it....the lames who say they would snitch are da same lames who done been lame they entire high school, and college career and are the same introverted oxygen leeching failed abortions (with battle scars from coat hangers to prove it) dat finna have somthin like this catch up to them..when ish like dis happens, it gon fix itself...when dis is some harmless jawn like dis, and folk get all crazy about it, den cheaa, dis stuff finna catch up wit you soon nuff as well..its da way da world works...i aint tellin you to stop colorin within da lines--but what im sayin is, if one of yo classmates aint, then you juss dont go make a PSA to errbody yadig..that wont only get yo g-pass taken away from you, dat da kinda thang datll get u murdered alotta places. juss my 2 cents

way to make gangstas look real bright LOL

 

[inaminute]

Were you or anyone else being directly adversely affected by them doing this? The answer is an emphatic, N to the O...

Most people forget about a little thing called Self Responsibility. As adults, they must live with the consequences of their actions if they get caught, what should you care?...Hell, maybe it was a really stressful interview?🙄

ahh, the "anything that doesn't personally impact ME" morality

LMAO

actually, your post supports the consequences of smoking a joint in public being GETTING CAUGHT because you took the chance that someone who saw it for the idiotic act it is did the predictable thing and reported you

don't whine about the predictable consequences of your own stupidity

 

[SoFlaKnight]

ahh, the "anything that doesn't personally impact ME" morality

LMAO

actually, your post supports the consequences of smoking a joint in public being GETTING CAUGHT because you took the chance that someone who saw it for the idiotic act it is did the predictable thing and reported you

don't whine about the predictable consequences of your own stupidity

Buddy, with the exception of a few troll posts, nobody here's opinion is stupid and/or whining about predictable consequences...

The OP simply inquired whether or not we would report the incident at an interview...

I don't drink alcohol, smoke tobacco or cannabis, but I do know that the latter causes less harm than either alcohol (no violence) or tobacco (no addiction and less inhaled smoke per day). I am not suggesting in stating this that I think pot is harmless. Almost nothing in the world, including drinking water, is completely harmless. But who cares what I think about that. What does matter is that I am also a firm believer in freedom of individual action, along with responsibilityfor self-inflicted harm.

You seem to want to dictate other people's lives to them. That is not your responsibility. Your responsibility is to be closely concerned with what you are doing on a daily basis and to try to be A#1 at it. This is everyone's "duty".

The people in the 'situation', just like us, don't need other people to dictate their lives when we are the ones who takes responsibility for what we do, nobody else. But hey, that's just the Libertarian in me talking😀

 

[TexanGal]

The people in the 'situation', just like us, don't need other people to dictate their lives when we are the ones who takes responsibility for what we do, nobody else. But hey, that's just the Libertarian in me talking😀

You said it yourself. For some of us, responsibility is making sure *******es don't risk other peoples lives at the expense of their few minutes of joy by getting high.

 

[akademix]

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[SoFlaKnight]

no i wouldn't report them. smoking a joint in broad daylight is quite ballsy and requires a great deal of courage.

doctors need courage

courage is american

you're not anti-american...are you?

Son, if you don't smoke this joint, the terrorists win

Akademix, I hear you man, a lot of these kids are straight up weak sauce...

 

[TexanGal]

And now we're being taught ethics and morality by someone with no grammar skills. "Finna". Niiice.
Thanks Dr. Phil. 🙄

 

[waytosuck]

And now we're being taught ethics and morality by someone with no grammar skills. "Finna". Niiice.
Thanks Dr. Phil. 🙄

So using marijuana is immoral?

 

[Mombosuthu]

wow i should get the babypowder out and straight up smack some of yall...99% of people wouldn't report anything like this cause they wouldnt care--it happens all the time--if somebody says theyre finna get high, let em say it...who are you to play the moral police--oh wait, i forgot you got a vested interest in the school and all of a sudden your voice has cracked, sack has dropped, and you think its your responsibility as a good person to report somebody SAYING they finna get high..i aint waste my time to read this entire thread cause ive seen enough on this 3rd page to assume that its filled with a buncha nerd lames with as much personality as a piece of cardboard--but even if he had a blunt or a J lit, that aint your business...let him do what he wants, itll catch up to him...if he did hit a kid like all you fools keep saying, then wow, im sorry a kid had to be hit, but hey, theyll figure out hes blunted...you guys are rediculously foolish for tryna support something like that...i see yalls logic, but wow, i feel like the only friends people like yall have is tom from myspace. i can picture how half yall look right now...man...i cant believe that imma be dealin with folk like you in med school....whatever, just dont forget to wear your pocket protector when buying the next round of irish sperm-bombs at the bar--and by bar i mean your hands in your pants in front of the cpu. i aint really mean, and this message was a collective rant to all those with no friends (aka the ones who gotta play police). ...well eatin pigs aint somthin i believe in, and i hate the 5-0...nwa said it the best, and i think they was talkin to most of yall haters..

LOL, man, LOL. You just made my day. LOL.

 

[cbr]

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[Just2Fitz]

to the op poster--

how do you know they were cheefing? you shouldve asked to join

 

[akademix]

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[SoFlaKnight]

yea cuz grammar dictates morality...stop playin hopscotch on this member's member for a second sweety...i mean gee golly--youre one liners are so well crafted and written--and after all, only somebody who could write their points on a forum using proper punctuation should be taken seriously....mayne, youre aint funny to the point where its painful...youre jokes are worse than whatever stank booty moralities you hold regarding this issue. its crazy, cause it seems as if you are cut from the same cloth (nutrag) as erry one of those trolls/lame gunners who lookin out for themselves....oh wow i gotta report him so i can make sure he gets rejected and i get in!!! great mentality..thats straight turrible...straight turr...you honestly feel your life is in danger when folk say they FINNA be smoking weed? i dunno where in texas you from, but from the way it sounds, youd prolly be mugged on sesame street... what you FINNA do? report me to to the grammar nazis for the misuse of commas and ellipses? i bet you would, cause you already proved that you snitch...you wouldnt even tell the grammar nazis, youd prolly tell the adcom bout my grammar deficiencies and cut out the middle man right?....listen i aint here for any problems and don't mean to come at you roastin you and i aint mean to put you to shame like i just did (textbook style)--but don't bite off more than you can chew...aint no reason to get personal, and since you did, i figured i would too....but i still love u (and so do my grammar)

...word...

Interesting article just came out, http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/07/27/marijuana.psychosis.ap/index.html which elaborates on the only thing they can really come against THC for. I've heard before that those with family histories are more prone to experience the underlying psychotic outbreaks if they smoke weed. Personally, I think they were either going to have the psychotic episode to begin with and the 'high' just makes them realize the psychoses...or there is just something in the nature of those prone to drug use that predisposes the conditions...

What do you guys think about Dr. Andrew Weil's take on including in Maslow’s hierarchy of needs the "human need to expand and alter their state of consciousness"?👍👎

I believe there is some truth to it which explains why some people succeed in experiencing altered consciousness by engaging in risky behavior, some of which seems socially acceptable (skydiving) and others less socially acceptable (high-speed driving or recreational drug use).

http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/07/27/marijuana.psychosis.ap/index.html

 

[inaminute]

nice try on that Lancet article, Knight

it actually says mj ain't harmless at all

as for the arguments that some of us can't dictate whether some of you smoke weed in public, well, you're trying to dictate whether we point out your public use to those paid to deal with you. Ironic, and hilarious.

 

[da8s0859q]

I believe there is some truth to it which explains why some people succeed in experiencing altered consciousness by engaging in risky behavior, some of which seems socially acceptable (skydiving) and others less socially acceptable (high-speed driving or recreational drug use).

😀

 

[Koch]

Well its a good thing he will have the 4 years of Med School and then residency to mature.

Honestly I am amazed how many people would have turned the two guys in. I know it's a personal decison, but I would never have even thought about turning them in.

Just my thoughts.

Are you guys even reading this. I keep seeing posts about how this thread is full of nerds who would turn the guys in. Like 80% of the posts (or more) have said they wouldn't.

 

[Mombosuthu]

yea cuz grammar dictates morality...stop playin hopscotch on this member's member for a second sweety...i mean gee golly--youre one liners are so well crafted and written--and after all, only somebody who could write their points on a forum using proper punctuation should be taken seriously....mayne, youre aint funny to the point where its painful...youre jokes are worse than whatever stank booty moralities you hold regarding this issue. its crazy, cause it seems as if you are cut from the same cloth (nutrag) as erry one of those trolls/lame gunners who lookin out for themselves....oh wow i gotta report him so i can make sure he gets rejected and i get in!!! great mentality..thats straight turrible...straight turr...you honestly feel your life is in danger when folk say they FINNA be smoking weed? i dunno where in texas you from, but from the way it sounds, youd prolly be mugged on sesame street... what you FINNA do? report me to to the grammar nazis for the misuse of commas and ellipses? i bet you would, cause you already proved that you snitch...you wouldnt even tell the grammar nazis, youd prolly tell the adcom bout my grammar deficiencies and cut out the middle man right?....listen i aint here for any problems and don't mean to come at you roastin you and i aint mean to put you to shame like i just did (textbook style)--but don't bite off more than you can chew...aint no reason to get personal, and since you did, i figured i would too....but i still love u (and so do my grammar)

...Word X2...

 

[Meatwad]

no i wouldn't report them. smoking a joint in broad daylight is quite ballsy and requires a great deal of courage.

doctors need courage

courage is american

you're not anti-american...are you?

Lmao. I was about to post that this thread was a waste of 15 minutes of my life and full of the lamest dregs of SDN society until I stumbled upon this comic masterpiece. Carry on.

 

[inaminute]

Are you guys even reading this. I keep seeing posts about how this thread is full of nerds who would turn the guys in. Like 80% of the posts (or more) have said they wouldn't.

more "code of the schoolyard" bullying, excellent

 

[Koch]

more "code of the schoolyard" bullying, excellent

Whoa, I'm not bullying. I was using their words, not mine. I don't buy the whole thing actually happening so I'm not weighing in on either side. I just feel that if there's going to be insults thrown around they should at least be accurate.

 

[cbr]

x

 

[inaminute]

ha, the theory being that the mere plebes in public schools are too weighed down by being plebeian to have some concern about flagrant drug use in public? or that private school students have something up their b*tts? sorry to blow up that theory---I'm from a public undergrad.

 

[da8s0859q]

ha, the theory being that the mere plebes in public schools are too weighed down by being plebeian to have some concern about flagrant drug use in public? or that private school students have something up their b*tts? sorry to blow up that theory---I'm from a public undergrad.

oooh, SO many things to say, so little time.

 

[inaminute]

oooh, SO many things to say, so little time.

smoke some weed and get back to us---surely it will give you the ability to articulate your many thoughts