Retaking Nbde Part 1 For A Perfect 90

[drknali]

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hi ,calling all those with the last chance for getting in next year in nyu,umdnj,boston.
for the highly elusive 90,writing nbde part 1 in dec end or jan first week 2008
lets goin together for the big 90

 

[dentalhelp2006]

hi ,calling all those with the last chance for getting in next year in nyu,umdnj,boston.
for the highly elusive 90,writing nbde part 1 in dec end or jan first week 2008
lets goin together for the big 90

I'm in..............any ideas on how we can get aggressive with this.?

 

[drknali]

its quality and repeated studying, even if its a line,we got to remeber it for good.
lets discuss our weakness and boring things to remember here,
8 hrs a day for a month should be fine.
if u are game lets motivate each other,wat r u studyin now,what have u finished

 

[s m i l e 2007]

we can also post everyday portin what we are going to study and whether or not we completed the planned portion.🙂

 

[TOM_24]

Hey guys, I think its a good idea to share our experience and weakness in NBDE part one.

Actually retaking the exam its like a sword with two edge.I think we have to concentrate more in old exams this time🙂

Best of luck guys👍

 

[drkooks]

what are u guys doing more than u did the first time ????
any new sources ????

 

[drknali]

if we are good with decks [really good]
10days
kaplan book 5 days,usmle first aid 5
Q bank 5 days
revision 5 days

we can crack 90

any other ideas guys

 

[hunny100]

hi...count me in too ..does any one of u have an idea where to get material according to new format or are u guys gonna stick to old papers based on old format?

 

[hunny100]

hi ,calling all those with the last chance for getting in next year in nyu,umdnj,boston.
for the highly elusive 90,writing nbde part 1 in dec end or jan first week 2008
lets goin together for the big 90

hi..do u know if latest dental decks are different from previous ones??? i mean have they changed them according to new format.cause the decks i m using are from 2005 i wonder if latest version is more clinical thanxx
by the way thanx for starting this thread

 

[dentalhelp2006]

if we are good with decks [really good]
10days
kaplan book 5 days,usmle first aid 5
Q bank 5 days
revision 5 days

we can crack 90

any other ideas guys

I'm planning on taking the exam on the 22nd..........what do you guys think? Too soon?

 

[drknali]

the exam is only new format,lets do this way.
since we have taken this exam before
lets check out whar pulled us down last time

can we start discussing lateral pterygoid. and tmjoint
about 10 Q come from this

 

[TOM_24]

if we are good with decks [really good]
10days
kaplan book 5 days,usmle first aid 5
Q bank 5 days
revision 5 days

we can crack 90

any other ideas guys

DONT miss the old exams... I thinks its really helpfull( but its tae a lot of time😡

 

[docdk]

old papers yes but r u talking about v old too like 88-78 papers?? r they helpful??

 

[vijaggi]

m also in,m also retaking the exam in jan 1st r 2nd week.does any body have solution for this unreleased q papers 99,00,02 papers,that takes hell lot of time nd ans r confusing nd some r incorrect,do any of you have correct ans for them.
i would tell the testlets is important there were 8 testlets which had 6 qs based on each teslet.i heard new first aid usmle book has clinical vignettes.

hunny100 ,decks 2006 r 2007 has clinical vignettes which r asked in new version of exam.dont miss them

 

[skydentist]

I also want to joint the group ..gave my xm some time back...wat all r u guys reading ??👍

 

[TOM_24]

Hey guys, I was wondering if any 1 using the first aid NBDE ... its worth to buy it or not?


Thank u guys

 

[drknali]

iam doing decks,kaplan book,kaplan bank as of now
planning to do usmle first aid later
i dont recommend nbde book,its a waste of money

 

[docdk]

n what abt crack the nbde papers anybody trying them out??

 

[drknali]

i realized,in my previous exam questions were changed and repeated,but its the same topic.its not abt knowing the correct answer but knowing everything abt the question

 

[deeepa]

I am planning to take my exam in jan 25th,just started studying.my plan is-
dks-25
ada-50qs
kaplan qbank-25qs
first aid book-18pages

for 40days, at the end of 40 days i will take my exam,do you guys will this plan work out?or is there is any other suggestions from u?please feel free to point out,wish u all good luck.
deeepa.

 

[chinnu96]

me too in the race fr the magic no.
planning 2 take 1st wk of feb. good luck 2 all.

 

[drkooks]

hi.. i am retaking for the magic score too..
do u think kaplan book and q bank ..worth studying???
i think they have too much info hard to retain..
i am doing decks and first aid with kaplan dentessential..( it is more compact than kaplan book)...
what do u think do i still have to do kaplan book,,
🙁 i am confused..
anyway goodluck for all of u

 

[drknali]

hi.. i am retaking for the magic score too..
do u think kaplan book and q bank ..worth studying???
i think they have too much info hard to retain..
i am doing decks and first aid with kaplan dentessential..( it is more compact than kaplan book)...
what do u think do i still have to do kaplan book,,
🙁 i am confused..
anyway goodluck for all of u

its not what u read but what u remember,all questions look easy and familiar in the exam but its the last choices we get stuck with
i believe the only way is to study is to make sure we remember evry single detail
its not the QUANTITY BUT QUALITY THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE

 

[drknali]

hows the studyin going,its the last 3 weeks that count.
if u can do 8 hrs ,in a 3 hr cycle.
i think its enough
wat do u all think

 

[dentalhelp2006]

hows the studyin going,its the last 3 weeks that count.
if u can do 8 hrs ,in a 3 hr cycle.
i think its enough
wat do u all think

I think it should be enough.........but panic is what's getting to me.......anybody have good ideas on retention of the anatomy section......it seems like everytime I study it, its like a new language!!!

 

[chinnu96]

I think it should be enough.........but panic is what's getting to me.......anybody have good ideas on retention of the anatomy section......it seems like everytime I study it, its like a new language!!!

hi try 2 do qs. or discuss with ur fr .then ull retain better than jus goingg thru thepory. ok bye. good luck.

 

[drknali]

I think it should be enough.........but panic is what's getting to me.......anybody have good ideas on retention of the anatomy section......it seems like everytime I study it, its like a new language!!!

i know its tough ,retaining... i try comparitive study and writing it down and sticking on the wall of my room,,i know its a mess,but when u keep looking at it all the time,u kinda remember,its hard work ,writing all down, but it helped me

 

[hopekeepsmegoin]

hey..my examz on 27th dec..havent started qs papers yet..still stuck with decks😕....can only give like 5 dayz for papaers...can anyone tell me wat papers sud i concentrate on more..m really confused folks....decks just enver end and i seem to never remember al that especially anat n biochem😡

 

[hunny100]

hey..my examz on 27th dec..havent started qs papers yet..still stuck with decks😕....can only give like 5 dayz for papaers...can anyone tell me wat papers sud i concentrate on more..m really confused folks....decks just enver end and i seem to never remember al that especially anat n biochem😡

no..i would strongly suggest give good amount of time to old examz..

 

[cool freak]

hi..i'm new in this forum..i had taken the exam in oct. this year..didn't do that well..also looking to go for my 90 score this time..but i'm not sure when should i take it..to apply to nyu..bu..upeen..you think summer time is good???

 

[cutedoc12]

hey..my examz on 27th dec..havent started qs papers yet..still stuck with decks😕....can only give like 5 dayz for papaers...can anyone tell me wat papers sud i concentrate on more..m really confused folks....decks just enver end and i seem to never remember al that especially anat n biochem😡

i wud suggest u to do the exam papers first coz they tell u in wat way questions are askd n dats very imp to know....u can do decks later on if u get time....but papers shud be on priority......gud luck

 

[hopekeepsmegoin]

OMG...M SCARED NOW!all this while i was ok with only few qs papers..this means i have to re direct my study at the last minute😱,and chuck the deck for a while.....🙁..thakz for ur replies..ppl😍

 

[hunny100]

OMG...M SCARED NOW!all this while i was ok with only few qs papers..this means i have to re direct my study at the last minute😱,and chuck the deck for a while.....🙁..thakz for ur replies..ppl😍

u know what ..in my opinion never get nervous cause that straight away cuts off few percent from ur final score..atleast that's what happened with me..

 

[dreamdr]

u know what ..in my opinion never get nervous cause that straight away cuts off few percent from ur final score..atleast that's what happened with me..

hey guys...what are these old exams? should we really do usmle 1 if there is time?

 

[drknali]

cracking all the papers,give u a complete idea,of nbde part1,
if u dont know any answer try searching wikipedia,and learn everything abt the question.i try that,

 

[dreamdr]

cracking all the papers,give u a complete idea,of nbde part1,
if u dont know any answer try searching wikipedia,and learn everything abt the question.i try that,

are you guys doing surface anatomy atlas or are you sticking to the textb?ffffforfor it

 

[drsa]

i m in too ...i m trying to improve my score ....right now just doing the kaplan book and past papers........this thread is good to keep in touch....

 

[drknali]

do we have to do everything,watz imp?
can u guys let me know.

 

[drknali]

dental decks or kaplan book give ur views,which is better in decks ? and vice versa

 

[hunny100]

dental decks or kaplan book give ur views,which is better in decks ? and vice versa

i dont have kaplan book i dont even know how it looks like ...in my opinion 10 old examz...dental decks ,and kaplan q bank ..thats all i plan to do..any seggetions wellcome

 

[docdk]

yeah dental decks... do it everyline n word..
at this time dont waste time on kaplan ..
then qpapers , first aids ,qbank...

 

[Perioguy]

I thought I'd add my 2 cents on re-taking Part I.

The first time I took it, I got an 85 (because I went to a Canadian school and didn't realize how important Part I was). I retook it and got an 88. I took it a third time, scored a 90, and got into a great perio program.

My recommendations: Forget the Decks. They're useless. The information is NOT DETAILED ENOUGH for the questions the NBDEs ask.

I used the following:

First Aid for the NBDE Part I (They summarize things really well, and a lot of the info is from old exams, so you don't have to scour old, outdated tests for information. I feel that this is a GREAT book, especially when combined with the next one.)

First Aid for the USMLE Step I (They have amazing charts, mnemonics, and tons of useful information. Combined with the above book, you get a great review of pathology, anatomy, physiology, and biochem.)

Clinical Microbiology Made Ridiculously Simple (Great charts in the back of each section summarizing all the details you'll ever need.)

A Clinical Biochemistry book (I don't have it on me) to supplement the above.

Netter's Atlas of Anatomy to visualize things properly.

I used the Decks to start, but rarely revisited them because the modern exams are asking questions that require so much more knowledge than the Decks provide. It can mean a 90 vs. an 85.

Old exams to solidify your knowledge.

Review, and review often. You have to memorize a TON of stuff. This test does not get any easier. Don't get misled by earlier years, because those exams are objectively much easier than what they're testing now.

Good luck!

 

[hunny100]

wow thanx for taking time out and sharing ur experience..i scored 85% ..aiming to score much higher this time if God willing ...dont u think kaplan Qbank will help as it's based on new format instead of books u mentioned as time is an essence for me ..have to take part 2 as well before may



The first time I took it, I got an 85 (because I went to a Canadian school and didn't realize how important Part I was). I retook it and got an 88. I took it a third time, scored a 90, and got into a great perio program.

My recommendations: Forget the Decks. They're useless. The information is NOT DETAILED ENOUGH for the questions the NBDEs ask.

I used the following:

First Aid for the NBDE Part I (They summarize things really well, and a lot of the info is from old exams, so you don't have to scour old, outdated tests for information. I feel that this is a GREAT book, especially when combined with the next one.)

First Aid for the USMLE Step I (They have amazing charts, mnemonics, and tons of useful information. Combined with the above book, you get a great review of pathology, anatomy, physiology, and biochem.)

Clinical Microbiology Made Ridiculously Simple (Great charts in the back of each section summarizing all the details you'll ever need.)

A Clinical Biochemistry book (I don't have it on me) to supplement the above.

Netter's Atlas of Anatomy to visualize things properly.

I used the Decks to start, but rarely revisited them because the modern exams are asking questions that require so much more knowledge than the Decks provide. It can mean a 90 vs. an 85.

Old exams to solidify your knowledge.

Review, and review often. You have to memorize a TON of stuff. This test does not get any easier. Don't get misled by earlier years, because those exams are objectively much easier than what they're testing now.

Good luck![/QUOTE]

 

[drknali]

Hey ,thank you for this great info and for sharing experience.
this is wat we need on this thread.

 

[vijaggi]

I thought I'd add my 2 cents on re-taking Part I.

The first time I took it, I got an 85 (because I went to a Canadian school and didn't realize how important Part I was). I retook it and got an 88. I took it a third time, scored a 90, and got into a great perio program.

My recommendations: Forget the Decks. They're useless. The information is NOT DETAILED ENOUGH for the questions the NBDEs ask.

I used the following:

First Aid for the NBDE Part I (They summarize things really well, and a lot of the info is from old exams, so you don't have to scour old, outdated tests for information. I feel that this is a GREAT book, especially when combined with the next one.)

First Aid for the USMLE Step I (They have amazing charts, mnemonics, and tons of useful information. Combined with the above book, you get a great review of pathology, anatomy, physiology, and biochem.)

Clinical Microbiology Made Ridiculously Simple (Great charts in the back of each section summarizing all the details you'll ever need.)

A Clinical Biochemistry book (I don't have it on me) to supplement the above.

Netter's Atlas of Anatomy to visualize things properly.

I used the Decks to start, but rarely revisited them because the modern exams are asking questions that require so much more knowledge than the Decks provide. It can mean a 90 vs. an 85.

Old exams to solidify your knowledge.

Review, and review often. You have to memorize a TON of stuff. This test does not get any easier. Don't get misled by earlier years, because those exams are objectively much easier than what they're testing now.

Good luck!

good work , thanks for the information

 

[Perioguy]

Hey, everyone.

I'm glad that some people found my advice useful.

Regarding the Qbank: I didn't use it, but that doesn't mean anything. If you feel that it gives you an edge on the competition, then by all means.

About the Kaplan books: I didn't really use them this time around, because they're too detailed, and they're simply not geared to give you the so-called "high-yield" info you need. That's what the USMLE and NBDE First Aid books are for, and they do an AWESOME job at it (especially the USMLE).

As to the "new" format: It's not really that big of a deal. You still have to know the basic science stuff to do well.

Here's how I thought about the exam: It's percentile based, which means that you have to do better than everyone else. So you need tools that not everyone is going to use, otherwise you're in the same boat. So what do we have? The Decks. Who uses them? Everyone. So just using them, assuming that you're learning them better than 90% of everyone else, is silly. Same goes for old exams. Who uses them? Everyone. Yeah, you get those recycled questions right, but so does everyone else. It doesn't distinguish you from the rest of the crowd.

Other resources mean that you spent more time trying to learn. Believe it or not, the NBDEs respond well to that. For every other source you learn from, you're using something that most other people are not, and that gives you an advantage. Because every additional question that you get right puts you one ahead. If you put in the extra effort, you're doing more than what the average person is doing, and hopefully, you'll also do better on the exam.

Part I is far more important than Part II, so spend your time on Part I if you're set on specializing. I have first-hand knowledge from program directors in perio, ortho, and oral surgery that a 90 is a must on Part I. Part II is not weighted so much, if at all (especially if you apply straight out of school and haven't taken the exam yet).

Good luck, and study like maniacs. I know it sounds ridiculous, but the more you study, the more you see how things come together...And having more knowledge never hurts.

PG

 

[hunny100]

Hey, everyone.

I'm glad that some people found my advice useful.

Regarding the Qbank: I didn't use it, but that doesn't mean anything. If you feel that it gives you an edge on the competition, then by all means.

About the Kaplan books: I didn't really use them this time around, because they're too detailed, and they're simply not geared to give you the so-called "high-yield" info you need. That's what the USMLE and NBDE First Aid books are for, and they do an AWESOME job at it (especially the USMLE).

As to the "new" format: It's not really that big of a deal. You still have to know the basic science stuff to do well.

Here's how I thought about the exam: It's percentile based, which means that you have to do better than everyone else. So you need tools that not everyone is going to use, otherwise you're in the same boat. So what do we have? The Decks. Who uses them? Everyone. So just using them, assuming that you're learning them better than 90% of everyone else, is silly. Same goes for old exams. Who uses them? Everyone. Yeah, you get those recycled questions right, but so does everyone else. It doesn't distinguish you from the rest of the crowd.

Other resources mean that you spent more time trying to learn. Believe it or not, the NBDEs respond well to that. For every other source you learn from, you're using something that most other people are not, and that gives you an advantage. Because every additional question that you get right puts you one ahead. If you put in the extra effort, you're doing more than what the average person is doing, and hopefully, you'll also do better on the exam.

Part I is far more important than Part II, so spend your time on Part I if you're set on specializing. I have first-hand knowledge from program directors in perio, ortho, and oral surgery that a 90 is a must on Part I. Part II is not weighted so much, if at all (especially if you apply straight out of school and haven't taken the exam yet).

Good luck, and study like maniacs. I know it sounds ridiculous, but the more you study, the more you see how things come together...And having more knowledge never hurts.

PG

wow....never thought abt nbde that way...thanx ..

 

[docdk]

' study like maniacs ' great !!
thank u so much...

 

[hunny100]

Hey, everyone.

I'm glad that some people found my advice useful.

Regarding the Qbank: I didn't use it, but that doesn't mean anything. If you feel that it gives you an edge on the competition, then by all means.

About the Kaplan books: I didn't really use them this time around, because they're too detailed, and they're simply not geared to give you the so-called "high-yield" info you need. That's what the USMLE and NBDE First Aid books are for, and they do an AWESOME job at it (especially the USMLE).

As to the "new" format: It's not really that big of a deal. You still have to know the basic science stuff to do well.

Here's how I thought about the exam: It's percentile based, which means that you have to do better than everyone else. So you need tools that not everyone is going to use, otherwise you're in the same boat. So what do we have? The Decks. Who uses them? Everyone. So just using them, assuming that you're learning them better than 90% of everyone else, is silly. Same goes for old exams. Who uses them? Everyone. Yeah, you get those recycled questions right, but so does everyone else. It doesn't distinguish you from the rest of the crowd.

Other resources mean that you spent more time trying to learn. Believe it or not, the NBDEs respond well to that. For every other source you learn from, you're using something that most other people are not, and that gives you an advantage. Because every additional question that you get right puts you one ahead. If you put in the extra effort, you're doing more than what the average person is doing, and hopefully, you'll also do better on the exam.

Part I is far more important than Part II, so spend your time on Part I if you're set on specializing. I have first-hand knowledge from program directors in perio, ortho, and oral surgery that a 90 is a must on Part I. Part II is not weighted so much, if at all (especially if you apply straight out of school and haven't taken the exam yet).

Good luck, and study like maniacs. I know it sounds ridiculous, but the more you study, the more you see how things come together...And having more knowledge never hurts.

PG[/QUOE]
do u know if nbde first aid based on new format has been printed already? cause the ones i found at amazon r printed on oct 2006

 

[dr ali]

I thought I'd add my 2 cents on re-taking Part I.

The first time I took it, I got an 85 (because I went to a Canadian school and didn't realize how important Part I was). I retook it and got an 88. I took it a third time, scored a 90, and got into a great perio program.

My recommendations: Forget the Decks. They're useless. The information is NOT DETAILED ENOUGH for the questions the NBDEs ask.

I used the following:

First Aid for the NBDE Part I (They summarize things really well, and a lot of the info is from old exams, so you don't have to scour old, outdated tests for information. I feel that this is a GREAT book, especially when combined with the next one.)

First Aid for the USMLE Step I (They have amazing charts, mnemonics, and tons of useful information. Combined with the above book, you get a great review of pathology, anatomy, physiology, and biochem.)

Clinical Microbiology Made Ridiculously Simple (Great charts in the back of each section summarizing all the details you'll ever need.)

A Clinical Biochemistry book (I don't have it on me) to supplement the above.

Netter's Atlas of Anatomy to visualize things properly.

I used the Decks to start, but rarely revisited them because the modern exams are asking questions that require so much more knowledge than the Decks provide. It can mean a 90 vs. an 85.

Old exams to solidify your knowledge.

Review, and review often. You have to memorize a TON of stuff. This test does not get any easier. Don't get misled by earlier years, because those exams are objectively much easier than what they're testing now.

Good luck!

thanx for all information, can you please tell us more about clinical biochemistry book? writer ?or more detail about the name of that book to buy? thanx