Rosalind Franklin AP Misinformation

[ni5hit]

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Okay so i've been reading on these forums a couple months now and there is something that I wanted to clear up. I am not sure if this topic's already been convered but I didn't find anything when I did a search. That being said here goes...

All the threads I have read about the Rosalind Franklin AP program say that you're practically guaranteed to get into their medical school if you maintain a 3.0 through the program. I have also seen people post numbers like "90% acceptance" for students in that program to the Chicago Medical School. I had decided that I was going to do the Georgetown SMP when I found out about two weeks ago that I got into the AP program at Rosalind. I went ahead and contacted the admissions office to get the truth on all these rumors and her answer was very interesting. When I first called she gave me statistics for the past two years:

62 out of 83 students in the program were offered acceptances to their medical school last year. That's ~75% success rate.
52 out of 91 students in the program were offered acceptances the year before that. That's ~57% success rate.

I then asked her whether the people who didn't get in happened to have applied elsewhere and she told me that most people who do the program plan to attend their medical school and that they've only had a handful of students in the past couple years that have ever turned down CMS and gone to another medical school.

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Later on I emailed her to ask why those 21 students (39 year before) didn't get offered acceptances. Her response was very lengthy so I'm going to just post the important parts...

Firstly, as with any program, the Applied Physiology class may have attrition throughout the academic year. This attrition rate varies with each academic class. Some candidates drop out of the program if they are accepted to another university, some due to academic difficulties, and some for personal reasons. The second reason for a disparity between the initial AP matriculation figures and the number of AP students who have successfully matriculated into The Chicago Medical School is because the applicants were found unqualified for the MD program.

Admission into the School of Medicine is not guaranteed for AP students, regardless of maintenance of any specific GPA at RFUMS. The application process to The Chicago Medical School is completely separate from the Graduate School application process.

Successfully obtaining the AP degree does not automatically guarantee a student admission into the Medical School. Each candidate is evaluated on his or her own merit, and is not evaluated with respect to their position within the AP applicant pool (i.e. RFUMS does not take the top "X" percent of the class or the top "X" number of students). Several curriculum changes of the last few years makes it difficult to compare historical data to the possible performance of this year’s class. Because the AP program’s curriculum has evolved over the last few years, historical data for this program reflects candidates who have undertaken different coursework and should not be used to evaluate the potential success of the current student body.

update:::
64/90 got in this past year (~71%)


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crap now i dont know what to do! Gtown SMP is supposed to have a 60% success rate after the first year. I thought Gtown SMP was harder to get into than the RFUMS AP so then why do they have lower success rates?? 😡

anyone have any ideas on which is the better choice? I know gtown has better connections to other schools but I mean 70+% is kind of hard to top even if all 70% are going to CMS. thoughts?

 

[myg]

Of the 26 people that did not get in this past year, how many had >= 3.0 GPA ? If they had lower GPAs than the unofficial cutoff, then it would make sense. But if a majority of them had >= 3.0 GPA, then maybe the interviews are more important than previously stated on other threads ?

Okay so i've been reading on these forums a couple months now and there is something that I wanted to clear up. I am not sure if this topic's already been convered but I didn't find anything when I did a search. That being said here goes...

All the threads I have read about the Rosalind Franklin AP program say that you're practically guaranteed to get into their medical school if you maintain a 3.0 through the program. I have also seen people post numbers like "90% acceptance" for students in that program to the Chicago Medical School. I had decided that I was going to do the Georgetown SMP when I found out about two weeks ago that I got into the AP program at Rosalind. I went ahead and contacted the admissions office to get the truth on all these rumors and her answer was very interesting. When I first called she gave me statistics for the past two years:

62 out of 83 students in the program were offered acceptances to their medical school last year. That's ~75% success rate.
52 out of 91 students in the program were offered acceptances the year before that. That's ~57% success rate.

I then asked her whether the people who didn't get in happened to have applied elsewhere and she told me that most people who do the program plan to attend their medical school and that they've only had a handful of students in the past couple years that have ever turned down CMS and gone to another medical school.

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Later on I emailed her to ask why those 21 students (39 year before) didn't get offered acceptances. Her response was very lengthy so I'm going to just post the important parts...




update:::
64/90 got in this past year (~71%)


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crap now i dont know what to do! Gtown SMP is supposed to have a 60% success rate after the first year. I thought Gtown SMP was harder to get into than the RFUMS AP so then why do they have lower success rates?? 😡

anyone have any ideas on which is the better choice? I know gtown has better connections to other schools but I mean 70+% is kind of hard to top even if all 70% are going to CMS. thoughts?

 

[Phil Anthropist]

...she gave me statistics for the past two years:

62 out of 83 students in the program were offered acceptances to their medical school last year. That's ~75% success rate.

Well, you also have to consider that some of these students may have received acceptances early (October-December). In this case, some of these people may not have finished the program. In addition, even though they may have been offered interviews by Chicago Medical School, they may have declined these interviews after being accepted elsewhere (e.g., their state med school). While some medical schools accept graduate students on the condition that they finish their graduate program, not all medical schools have this requirement. So the actual success rate may have been higher had these students finished the program.

52 out of 91 students in the program were offered acceptances the year before that. That's ~57% success rate.

I think myg asks a good question. How many of these students that were not offered acceptances did not get a B average or better? And again, you have to consider that some students may have been in the program and then dropped out not because of their grades, but because they had earned acceptances elsewhere.

I then asked her whether the people who didn't get in happened to have applied elsewhere and she told me that most people who do the program plan to attend their medical school and that they've only had a handful of students in the past couple years that have ever turned down CMS and gone to another medical school.

Turning down the acceptance to CMS implies that these students were interviewed and accepted. If a student earns an acceptance elsewhere and declines an interview from CMS (and consequently does not earn an acceptance at CMS), this is a different scenario; these people would not actually turn down an acceptance from CMS (because they would never have received an acceptance in the first place).

Firstly, as with any program, the Applied Physiology class may have attrition throughout the academic year. This attrition rate varies with each academic class. Some candidates drop out of the program if they are accepted to another university, some due to academic difficulties, and some for personal reasons. The second reason for a disparity between the initial AP matriculation figures and the number of AP students who have successfully matriculated into The Chicago Medical School is because the applicants were found unqualified for the MD program.

The bolded text is what I'm referring to.

Hypothetical:

Let's say I'm in the AP program. While in the AP program, I interview at my state school's MD program in mid-October. I am notified that I have been accepted in November. My state school doesn't require that I finish the AP program. Consequently, I withdraw.

In the statistics you mention above (concerning success rate), I would not be considered "successful," and yet, I would be attending medical school somewhere else for the following Fall.

A more telling statistic would be



how many of the students were accepted at a US med school (perhaps with breakdowns for MD/DO)
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how many people started the AP program



This statistic would tell you how many students who enrolled in the program were successful in obtaining med school admission. It is not necessarily representative of the success of the program itself because some students may be accepted prior to even receiving any course grades in the program. My point is that I wouldn't restrict the success rate solely to those obtaining admission to CMS.

 

[spundit]

So would it be standard procedure for all students in the AP program to apply to many different options following the AP year in case, for whatever reason, we are denied admission into CMS? I plan on applying to both allopathic and osteopathic schools in case i do not get into CMS. I am also not confident that CMS with take ALL students who get >= 3.0.

Is it standard procedure for all AP students to apply elsewhere and attend interviews during the AP school year? Do the other medical schools, particulary DO schools, look favorably on the AP student who applies and in indecisive pending results from the AP program?

 

[lumaya]

Okay so i've been reading on these forums a couple months now and there is something that I wanted to clear up. I am not sure if this topic's already been convered but I didn't find anything when I did a search. That being said here goes...

All the threads I have read about the Rosalind Franklin AP program say that you're practically guaranteed to get into their medical school if you maintain a 3.0 through the program. I have also seen people post numbers like "90% acceptance" for students in that program to the Chicago Medical School. I had decided that I was going to do the Georgetown SMP when I found out about two weeks ago that I got into the AP program at Rosalind. I went ahead and contacted the admissions office to get the truth on all these rumors and her answer was very interesting. When I first called she gave me statistics for the past two years:

62 out of 83 students in the program were offered acceptances to their medical school last year. That's ~75% success rate.
52 out of 91 students in the program were offered acceptances the year before that. That's ~57% success rate.

I then asked her whether the people who didn't get in happened to have applied elsewhere and she told me that most people who do the program plan to attend their medical school and that they've only had a handful of students in the past couple years that have ever turned down CMS and gone to another medical school.

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Later on I emailed her to ask why those 21 students (39 year before) didn't get offered acceptances. Her response was very lengthy so I'm going to just post the important parts...




update:::
64/90 got in this past year (~71%)


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crap now i dont know what to do! Gtown SMP is supposed to have a 60% success rate after the first year. I thought Gtown SMP was harder to get into than the RFUMS AP so then why do they have lower success rates?? 😡

anyone have any ideas on which is the better choice? I know gtown has better connections to other schools but I mean 70+% is kind of hard to top even if all 70% are going to CMS. thoughts?

Hey ni5hit!
Its steph...remember me? go gators!

Anyways, just wanted to let you know I'm going to the RFUMS AP program for sure! I have an apt and everything! Whatever you decide, good luck! 😛

 

[ni5hit]

myg, I actually did ask her about the whole >=3.0 GPA question (my exact question to her below)::

Was it because they did not maintain the 3.0 GPA requirement, or was it due to other reasons? Also, is receiving an acceptance to the Chicago medical school solely dependent on maintaining the GPA requirement and performing well on the interview or are there other considerations (previous MCAT scores, etc.)

She never gave me an exact answer on how many of the students that weren't accepted had GPA's below this 3.0 mark. Her answer was basically what I originally posted, so I do not really know what to make of it.

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Phil Anthropist, you make some good points. Would you mind addressing those questions to the RFUMS AP office and posting th reply? I am sure she is sick of me bugging her 😀
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spundit, the lady I spoke with made it sound almost as if everyone in the program only applies to CMS and nowhere else. I don't know if thats the smartest way to do it. Personally, I would def apply to a whole bunch of schools along with CMS and leave my options open. Nothing to lose (well except $$$$ and time).
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hey step!! actually i heard about ur acceptance from sheets...congrats! PM with ur new # or IM me so we can catch up! its been too long! (btw hows alex?)
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anyone have any thoughts on Gtown SMP v. RFUMS AP considering all of this info? i think i have to give the deposit for the AP program in 6 days so I am really in a time crunch (i already paid the $500 for gtown)! i would really appreciate any advice!

oo and I already submitted by AMCAS and put Gtown on it and in a paragraph about it in my PS so do I even really have the choice to switch now?? Could I change any of that now that I've submitted (it hasn't been certified yet bc they are waiting on my transcripts). 😱

 

[Orchid 209]

I have some other numbers that may help you.

At orientation 2004, they said for the 03-04 class 77 people COMPLETED the program, 62 offered acceptances, 58 decided to matriculate. Of the 15 people who didn't get acceptances, they didn't get the masters either(so you can assume they didn't make the 2.96 cutoff). I'm not sure how many people matriculated into the AP program in Aug 03. They also put in bold that the GPA needed to get a masters is 2.96 with a disclaimer in bold and red that there is no guarantee in acceptance to the med school.

I'm getting paranoid now myself. My classmate who lives in the dorm got his acceptance packet yesterday. I've yet to receive mine. 😕 I'm literally looking out the window ..... waiting for the mailman at this moment. If I don't get it today I might just march straight to the office, the suspense is killing me!

Supposedly the reason for the disclaimer was because about a dozen or so students in the 80's who completed the program with above a 3.0 were denied acceptances, and went on to sue the school. I've heard many different rumors for the disclaimer and how things have changed. One is at that time, they didn't reserve spots fot the AP to the med school, and the number of students making the GPA was greater than what they predicted and could absorb. The rumor now is that for every AP student, they reserve a spot in the class. If the student doesn't make it, the spot goes to someone on the waitlist. (If you read closely in the last paragraph of MSAR, you will see that it says a number of the matriculants into the med school are from the master's program). Another reason for the disclaimer is that it gives them a reason for rejecting someone whose a jerk, cocky, or any other characteristics that the school doesn't not want in their med student.

Of course if you call the school, they aren't going to say anything about getting the 3.0 will get you an acceptance. I dont' think they would like to face any lawsuits.

about interviews, EVERYBODY is scheduled for an interview, regardless of whether they submitted and amcas application or not. The interviews started late august last year, I'm assuming that's way before any MD acceptances were given. supposedly the interviews are the way the filter out some people based on their personality/undesirable characteristics. also, if you do horribly at your interview, they will call you in for a second interview.

 

[EctopicFetus]

Hi everyone. First of all I would like to wish you all good luck in whatever school you choose to pursue your career. Let me clear a few things up.

I did the AP program a few yrs ago and I will now be a 4th yr in 2 weeks time.

1) The idea is simple get a 3.0 or higher GPA and you will get in. Over the last FIVE years I dont know of anyone who has gotten this GPA and not gotten in.

2) The numbers might be skewed for a number of reasons. It is wise to complete your AMCAS ASAP and apply to places you would like to go beyond CMS. When I did the program I can think of 3 people who dropped out in Octoberish because they got into other med schools. Additionally, some people drop out after the 1st trimester cause their grades are just so poor that they wont make it through.

3) Numerically speaking it is theoretically possible for EVERYONE to make it in. (this of course does not happen). Most of your true AP classes are graded on a straight scale basis. The classes you sit in with the MD students (MCB, Genetics, medical Physio, Embryo, Biochem) are graded in a way where the MD students set the curve and the AP students just fall into the curve.

4) The school NO LONGER GUARANTEES admission because they dont want to take douche bags. So if you personality sucks just make sure you can hide it until you get in.

As always if you have specific Qs PM me

Ectopic.

 

[TheKoman]

Id like to add to Ectopic and everyone else:

Im going to be a 2nd year at RFU. I did the AP program in 03-04. The stats that have been supplied are true. Its around a 60% acceptance rate, not 90. I never heard of 90%. However, the 40% who did not make it either 1) go into other schools during the year a dropped out (a small number) 2) Dropped out early in the year because they got a C in some huge class like physio thats 14 units and its hard to overcome that 3) Completed the program but did NOT meet the 3.0 mark.

I dont think any school can claim a SMP 90% matriculation rate into their OWN medical school. Since Ni5 is thinking of Georgetown, look at their rates. They start off with 100 students or so and only 25 get into GU.... 25%. So what are you complaining about Ni5? Of course there are many students who get accepted to other schools so they claim a higher rate of student who matriculate into any school, including DO and overseas and Pharm school. Also, they rates are not just the following years but include ppl who get accepted maybe 2-3 years after doing GU-SMP.

Anywayz, not that I think RFU is a better school or the best school than others, but I think the AP program is great. Its for you to decide if you want to go

Also, addressing the lawsuit.... this did happen and the school lost. Now, they dont restrict the number they can accept into the Med school. The way they counter acted it was that they made the program harder than back in the 80s when they got sued. they added Neuro into the curriculum and other similar stuff. Also, the reason they dont say they guarantee you is because they want to avoid another lawsuit and have the option to reject you if you are a jackass and do something stupid like kill someone, get caught with 20lbs of cocaine or just simply piss off the admin somehow. As long as you act "professionally", you'd be fine.

Hope that answers some questions

 

[Orchid 209]

Hey... I got these numbers from El Capeetan

For the 2004-2005 Class:

94 matriculated
79 finished all courses
64 offered acceptances.

Hope it helps some people who are debating between RFU AP and some other post bacc make a decision.

Oh yeah for any other AP that were in my class: I talked to the admissions office today. They are sending the acceptance package to the permanent address (not local mailing address), unless you personally told them you would be in the area and etc. That being said: I'M IN!! 😀 all that nervousness!! My parents were just too stubborn to check their mail for me.

 

[daffy]

Hey... I got these numbers from El Capeetan

Oh yeah for any other AP that were in my class: I talked to the admissions office today. They are sending the acceptance package to the permanent address (not local mailing address), unless you personally told them you would be in the area and etc. That being said: I'M IN!! 😀 all that nervousness!! My parents were just too stubborn to check their mail for me.

Congrats Orchid and best of luck in the future!

 

[TiggidyTooth]

The only thing that worries me is the school's probationary status. Does anyone know anything with this in regards to accredidation and the LCME? I am assuming they are still on probation.

Tooth

 

[Phil Anthropist]

The only thing that worries me is the school's probationary status. Does anyone know anything with this in regards to accredidation and the LCME? I am assuming they are still on probation.

Tooth

Correct, CMS is still on probation. But honestly, I would be shocked if the school loses its LCME accreditation. CMS accreditation info can be found here. The school is taking many initiatives to try and ensure that the school will not lose its accreditation (the tuition freeze, new facilities, etc.). Other schools have been put on probation in the past (MCP Hahnemann/Drexel and Temple are two examples, if I remember correctly). These schools then made the changes that the LCME wanted and these schools are no longer on probation. There's a possiblity that something could go wrong, but CMS seems to be taking the LCME's concerns seriously. I don't think loss of accreditation is too likely.

 

[Dr. Zaius]

about interviews, EVERYBODY is scheduled for an interview, regardless of whether they submitted and amcas application or not.

So, we don't have to submit an amcas app to RFUMS?

 

[Orchid 209]

So, we don't have to submit an amcas app to RFUMS?

No you still have to submit an AMCAS app, just you don't have to have it by the interviews (interviews are in late august to early september). You have to have it in by the AMCAS deadline which is Nov 1 I believe.

 

[Vaz]

Hey orchid, i sent you a pm, please check.
thanx
vaz

No you still have to submit an AMCAS app, just you don't have to have it by the interviews (interviews are in late august to early september). You have to have it in by the AMCAS deadline which is Nov 1 I believe.

 

[richc]

Sorry if this is a repeat (I just skimmed throught the thread), but I visited RF this past weekend to make a decision on whether or not to go there. Here's some info that I got while I was there:

- RF is no longer on probation. You can actually check it on the link Phil provided.
- ALL the students this past year who finished the AP program with a gpa > 3.0 were offered spots and all had accepted except for 1 who may still be deciding.
- Next year's class (2006-2007) may become more competitive like Georgetown. That is, only the top 5% or so may be offered admission into RFUMS so the "guarantee" of finishing with a 3.0 or higher may no longer be in effect starting with that class. But just keep in mind that they were just talking about this and haven't decided on it yet.

 

[Orchid 209]

where did you hear about the top 5% of class getting acceptances only from? That's interesting because I haven't heard of anything. Why would they change it because in the past, some of their top students started with the AP program?

 

[richc]

where did you hear about the top 5% of class getting acceptances only from? That's interesting because I haven't heard of anything. Why would they change it because in the past, some of their top students started with the AP program?

The guy who gave me the tour (Dave?) told me that. When he first introduced himself he also stated that he was in charge of admissions for AP students into the regular M.D. program so you can interpret that however you'd like. He said that the administration was just considering it, but I don't think he offered an explanation and I didn't ask for one.

 

[ucsb101]

oh they better not change it to the whole 5% crap!

 

[Orchid 209]

hopefully it's just a scare tactic! the more people who don't want to go to RFU AP b/c of that, the more people they can accept off their waitlist, as I heard there is a waitlist for the AP!

yeah that does suck! I'm glad I did AP last year!

 

[Narv007]

i believe the 5% rule is for 06-07 from what richc said, not 05-06, so no need to worry.

 

[EctopicFetus]

Personally, I would be SUPER surprised if they did this 5% crap. I think the reality is that if thet did the program would go to the wayside and from what I know many people at the school would not be sad to see this happen. Perhaps they could do 50% but... 5% would be insane.. Why even show up? It would make it extremely cut throat and would make the program an unhappy place to be. This is simply my 2 cents.

 

[plzletmein]

Personally, I would be SUPER surprised if they did this 5% crap. I think the reality is that if thet did the program would go to the wayside and from what I know many people at the school would not be sad to see this happen.

Why would people at the school NOT be sad to see the program change to only 5% acceptance?

Isn't the program good for RF because for every successful matriculant into the med school, they essentially got an extra year of tuition during the AP program? And that they also know for sure that a sizeable portion of their class has already succeeded in the M1 classes.

Or does the school want reduce AP admissions into the med school so they can boost their overall stats and gain more prestige? Thanks.

 

[sunnyjohn]

Why would people at the school NOT be sad to see the program change to only 5% acceptance?

Isn't the program good for RF because for every successful matriculant into the med school, they essentially got an extra year of tuition during the AP program? And that they also know for sure that a sizeable portion of their class has already succeeded in the M1 classes.

Or does the school want reduce AP admissions into the med school so they can boost their overall stats and gain more prestige? Thanks.

This is probably the reason.

 

[USArmyDoc]

It is absolutly absurd to give admissions to the top 5% of the AP class. Why even bother going there? I was really going to consider going there if I was accepted for the 06-07 class but now I am just not so sure. All it would be is a waste of money/time.

 

[EctopicFetus]

Or does the school want reduce AP admissions into the med school so they can boost their overall stats and gain more prestige? Thanks.

This is the answer. Certain faculty members have been lobbying long and hard to dump the program. As far as the loss in tuition keep in mind that it is only $3.5 million which isnt a ton of money to the school. They have done a bunch of things to increase their revenue and I am thinking that financially this would not kill them.

Let me just say I think this 5% thing is not true. This is only my humble opinion. Also, not to flame........... but richc has very few posts which might mean..... well...... enough said..... this is the net so you have to be careful who you believe......

 

[Mperor]

I'm calling shennanigans on this rumor. As a precautionary, however, I emailed the director of records and admissions to verify or discredit the rumor. I'll let you guys know whats up when I hear back from her.

 

[USArmyDoc]

Awesome Mperor. If this 5% rumor turns out to be true than I think this program would be a waste of time for me.

 

[EL CAPeeeTAN]

Good News everyone!! I just hung up the phone with one of the faculty and told them that there is a rumor floating around that they are changing the AP program to only accept 5% into the medical school upon completion of the AP program. I was told "that is absolutely not the case, it seems every year many new and old rumors go around and this will not happen" They also said that in the furture if there are any changes it would be with curriculum or something like that but there are no current plans for changes. They also assured me that this upcoming year (2005 -2006) will be identical to previous years and that there are no plans to change anything and that they do not expect any changes for the near future classes. They also asked me to relay that the "5%" issue is a rumor and not to worry about it. So there you go.

 

[richc]

double posts are fun

 

[richc]

Good News everyone!! I just hung up the phone with one of the faculty and told them that there is a rumor floating around that they are changing the AP program to only accept 5% into the medical school upon completion of the AP program. I was told "that is absolutely not the case, it seems every year many new and old rumors go around and this will not happen" They also said that in the furture if there are any changes it would be with curriculum or something like that but there are no current plans for changes. They also assured me that this upcoming year (2005 -2006) will be identical to previous years and that there are no plans to change anything and that they do not expect any changes for the near future classes. They also asked me to relay that the "5%" issue is a rumor and not to worry about it. So there you go.

Isn't this basically what I said? Did I ever say that this is GOING to happen? No. Some of you guys need to relax and focus on getting your AMCAS done now. I thought I'd just mention this for future applicants since this was coming from a guy who worked in the actual admissions office.

But just keep in mind that they were just talking about this and haven't decided on it yet.

 

[EL CAPeeeTAN]

Isn't this basically what I said? Did I ever say that this is GOING to happen? No. Some of you guys need to relax and focus on getting your AMCAS done now. I thought I'd just mention this for future applicants since this was coming from a guy who worked in the actual admissions office.

I understood exactly what you were saying and everyone here appreciates all info given out. That is what this forum is for, gathering information. I just noticed that many people were getting nervous about what your tour guide said "could" happen. So to end all the confusion and excitement, I thought "I will call and speak with someone in the loop" I actually ended up talking to a director and explained the rumor and as he told me it is not even a consideration and actually laughed about it. I was not accusing you of starting some rumor or claiming that you where posting false info. I understand you are just posting what you heard, and in fact I appreciate you posting it. I was just doing some looking into the claims made by your tour guide, not you. I suppose if someone heard from a reliable source that the medical school "may" get shut down and then posted this info everyone would be anxiously researching to find out as much info as they could about the situation. No one is attacking you. Thank you for posting what you heard.

Anyways, my AMCAS is done and submitted, however I appreciate your concern.

 

[Mperor]

I understood exactly what you were saying and everyone here appreciates all info given out. That is what this forum is for, gathering information. I just noticed that many people were getting nervous about what your tour guide said "could" happen. So to end all the confusion and excitement, I thought "I will call and speak with someone in the loop" I actually ended up talking to a director and explained the rumor and as he told me it is not even a consideration and actually laughed about it. I was not accusing you of starting some rumor or claiming that you where posting false info. I understand you are just posting what you heard, and in fact I appreciate you posting it. I was just doing some looking into the claims made by your tour guide, not you. I suppose if someone heard from a reliable source that the medical school "may" get shut down and then posted this info everyone would be anxiously researching to find out as much info as they could about the situation. No one is attacking you. Thank you for posting what you heard.

Anyways, my AMCAS is done and submitted, however I appreciate your concern.

Thanks EL CAP. See you in the fall. Ugh, I still have to fill out my AMCAS, again.... 🙁

 

[USArmyDoc]

EL CAP you are the man. Also, richc I appreciate you posting the cautionary note regarding the top 5% of the class will matriculate. If it was true and I was not made aware of it I would of applied and if accepted attended to RFU AP thinking it was the 3.0 and above gig. So thanks

 

[Orchid 209]

Thanks EL CAP. See you in the fall. Ugh, I still have to fill out my AMCAS, again.... 🙁

If u dont' mind goign to CMS for med school......... just resubmit everything. All u need to do is add the new courses for the AP program. and if you are really lazy to play around w/ your PS, wait until after the interview for CMS to submit your app! They will either use last year's app to the school or your AP application, since it's rarely that your apps can changed that much in one year!

That's what I did last year 😀

 

[richc]

EL CAP you are the man. Also, richc I appreciate you posting the cautionary note regarding the top 5% of the class will matriculate. If it was true and I was not made aware of it I would of applied and if accepted attended to RFU AP thinking it was the 3.0 and above gig. So thanks

I would imagine that if they ever did change it, that they would mention it or at least tell you if you asked them about what their statistics were for students who matriculated from the AP program.

 

[EL CAPeeeTAN]

Richc and everyone,

Thanks for all of the input and sharing info, it has been a great help. I look forward to meeting everyone at the end of July. We will have to introduce ourselves by our SDN names to put a face with the name.

Thanks again!!