Roseman vs. UNE

[uglypug]

I’m very torn between these two schools. I think Roseman will be a more relaxed environment because of the block scheduling but that I might gain more at UNE as far as working in rural communities and I got a general feel that the people there are more serious about dentistry. If anyone has any advice on anything about both or either schools that’d be helpful! Thanks in advance!

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[rk1229]

UNE. I don’t even know the debt at UNE but I’m sure it’s lower than Roseman’s. Go where people are serious about dentistry; Roseman painted their program as easy to me and it rubbed me the wrong way. 400k+ is too much to pay for “easy”

 

[BluntForceTrauma]

If it's between the two, UNE. Cost is roughly the same. Portland is a fun city.

 

[GoDental101]

UNE hands down. Although the nice laidback experience at Roseman is tempting, you want to go to a dental school that will push you. The fact that Roseman boasts a more relaxed experience would be a huge red flag in my mind. I have a couple friends at UNE and it is very rigorous, but you’ll be happy you put the work and effort in when graduation comes. Good luck!

 

[uglypug]

UNE hands down. Although the nice laidback experience at Roseman is tempting, you want to go to a dental school that will push you. The fact that Roseman boasts a more relaxed experience would be a huge red flag in my mind. I have a couple friends at UNE and it is very rigorous, but you’ll be happy you put the work and effort in when graduation comes. Good luck!

Thank you for the response! Another huge thing is that I’m from the west coast and Roseman would be a much shorter and direct plane ride. Do you think UNE’s curriculum/experience is worth the distance? I just can’t tell because they’re both newer schools so to my understanding I figure rankings/prestige are the same.

 

[GoDental101]

Thank you for the response! Another huge thing is that I’m from the west coast and Roseman would be a much shorter and direct plane ride. Do you think UNE’s curriculum/experience is worth the distance? I just can’t tell because they’re both newer schools so to my understanding I figure rankings/prestige are the same.

It’s totally worth it. You can also get cheap flights from Boston. If your convenience is your priority then go to Roseman, but if your quality of education is your priority then go to UNE. Good luck!!

 

[Tooth Fairy 1]

I'm about to graduate from Roseman. I really liked my didactic and clinical experience here which at the time was run by Dr. Janis. They are making more changes to the didactic side of things to mimic the new board changes and how they teach so I can't speak for didactic side aka first 2 years. But clinical side hasn't changed if anything it only improves each year. I have had a lot more experience than some of my peers at other dental schools. I had 5 interviews and I remember not getting in my top 2 choices at the time. It was a blessing in disguise! Talking to my friends who did get in I'm doing wayyy more than them clinically. The great things about Roseman is you can really take your education where you want it to go. I wanted to do a lot of crowns in different materials plus e4d's, place an implant, surgical extractions, etc I reached my goals. I gave 100% and got it back. I volunteered in the emergency clinic on my off days, followed-up with patients, learned about the kind of treatment that I wanted to do and I attained my production goals. I'm honestly not one of the smartest people in my class by any means but I'm the hard worker. I had no problems passing all my boards and wreb first try. I don't know if anyone at Interview day boasted about this school being "easy" but I am happy. School is my life though just saying. Didactically compared to my classmates I think they were wayyy more stressed for academic portion but we both passed boards. I do realize that I have it better than some other schools out there but I can confidently say I worked my butt off in clinic and dental school has been the most challenging period of my life. I seriously didn't know the meaning of stress before dental school but it's not our school they make it the best they can it's dentistry. It's seriously something that can't be explained until you become a D3 and you're starting clinic. But yes I take dentistry very seriously and give 100% every day in clinic not everyone is like me though some people want to leave clinic as soon as they can. But doesn't every dental school have those. I lastly want to add, only because it's my last day of clinic today and I'm a bit sentimental lol That our faculty are hands down the best. Our Oral surgeon will basically let you do any type of full bony surgical extraction, tori removal, and implant placement (after it's been approved) without stepping in. Especially because we don't have specialities at our school we get to do some more difficult cases. And some of the faculty in our Quad are amazinggg--so patient, so nice, and great teachers. The hardest part of leaving Utah is leaving them. Good luck with your decision I would honestly go with the gut feeling you got during your interview and how the students, who weren't conducting interviews looked e.g. happy, stressed etc. Roseman shuts down clinic when interviews are going on but you still catch some people here and there.

 

[GoDental101]

I'm about to graduate from Roseman. I really liked my didactic and clinical experience here which at the time was run by Dr. Janis. They are making more changes to the didactic side of things to mimic the new board changes and how they teach so I can't speak for didactic side aka first 2 years. But clinical side hasn't changed if anything it only improves each year. I have had a lot more experience than some of my peers at other dental schools. I had 5 interviews and I remember not getting in my top 2 choices at the time. It was a blessing in disguise! Talking to my friends who did get in I'm doing wayyy more than them clinically. The great things about Roseman is you can really take your education where you want it to go. I wanted to do a lot of crowns in different materials plus e4d's, place an implant, surgical extractions, etc I reached my goals. I gave 100% and got it back. I volunteered in the emergency clinic on my off days, followed-up with patients, learned about the kind of treatment that I wanted to do and I attained my production goals. I'm honestly not one of the smartest people in my class by any means but I'm the hard worker. I had no problems passing all my boards and wreb first try. I don't know if anyone at Interview day boasted about this school being "easy" but I am happy. School is my life though just saying. Didactically compared to my classmates I think they were wayyy more stressed for academic portion but we both passed boards. I do realize that I have it better than some other schools out there but I can confidently say I worked my butt off in clinic and dental school has been the most challenging period of my life. I seriously didn't know the meaning of stress before dental school but it's not our school they make it the best they can it's dentistry. It's seriously something that can't be explained until you become a D3 and you're starting clinic. But yes I take dentistry very seriously and give 100% every day in clinic not everyone is like me though some people want to leave clinic as soon as they can. But doesn't every dental school have those. I lastly want to add, only because it's my last day of clinic today and I'm a bit sentimental lol That our faculty are hands down the best. Our Oral surgeon will basically let you do any type of full bony surgical extraction, tori removal, and implant placement (after it's been approved) without stepping in. Especially because we don't have specialities at our school we get to do some more difficult cases. And some of the faculty in our Quad are amazinggg--so patient, so nice, and great teachers. The hardest part of leaving Utah is leaving them. Good luck with your decision I would honestly go with the gut feeling you got during your interview and how the students, who weren't conducting interviews looked e.g. happy, stressed etc. Roseman shuts down clinic when interviews are going on but you still catch some people here and there.

TL;DR
Go to the cheaper school.
Roseman is about 500k total COA...plus about 90k of accrued interest during school bringing it to about 590k. This will then accrue about 41k of interest per year after graduation.
UNE is about 400k total COA....plus about 60k of accrued interest during school bringing it to 460k. This one will accrue about 32k of interest per year after graduation.
Reducing the principal cost on the loans going to UNE will be much easier than if you go to Roseman. Either way you are getting the same product from your education...a DMD degree. Good luck you'll never regret getting the better price.

 

[Tooth Fairy 1]

TL;DR
Go to the cheaper school.
Roseman is about 500k total COA...plus about 90k of accrued interest during school bringing it to about 590k. This will then accrue about 41k of interest per year after graduation.
UNE is about 400k total COA....plus about 60k of accrued interest during school bringing it to 460k. This one will accrue about 32k of interest per year after graduation.
Reducing the principal cost on the loans going to UNE will be much easier than if you go to Roseman. Either way you are getting the same product from your education...a DMD degree. Good luck you'll never regret getting the better price.

No need to tag me and be rude. Just thought I would give my point of view of my school. Also, your numbers are off I don't know why you rounded Roseman up and UNE down to make your point knowing people don't have time to check tuition themselves. But because I read I went ahead and checked. Roseman fees decrease D1 to D4 year so the actual tuition would be 360,000 and UNE 315,000 without living expenses (which are about the same). So 45K difference in tuition. Also, I don't disagree that tuition cost for all schools should be considered and is very important.

 

[GoDental101]

No need to tag me and be rude. Just thought I would give my point of view of my school. Also, your numbers are off I don't know why you rounded Roseman up and UNE down to make your point knowing people don't have time to check tuition themselves. But because I read I went ahead and checked. Roseman fees decrease D1 to D4 year so the actual tuition would be 360,000 and UNE 315,000 without living expenses (which are about the same). So 45K difference in tuition. Also, I don't disagree that tuition cost for all schools should be considered and is very important.

I have friends starting at both schools so I used their numbers. UNE had an estimated COA for 100k for the first year while Roseman had a COA of 130k. So 100k x 4 is 400k and 130k x 4 is 520k. So not to be rude that’s not my intention at all, but I actually rounded Rosemans cost down and was still able to make my point. I also think that when talking about cost it’s wise to mention the whole COA not just the tuition so people can really see how big of a hole different schools could potentially dig them. That’s why I included the interest and everything.

 

[Tooth Fairy 1]

I have friends starting at both schools so I used their numbers. UNE had an estimated COA for 100k for the first year while Roseman had a COA of 130k. So 100k x 4 is 400k and 130k x 4 is 520k. So not to be rude that’s not my intention at all, but I actually rounded Rosemans cost down and was still able to make my point. I also think that when talking about cost it’s wise to mention the whole COA not just the tuition so people can really see how big of a hole different schools could potentially dig them. That’s why I included the interest and everything.

I consider "Too long; didn't read" rude I can careless about inaccurate tuition rates you throw online. Not like I get paid or some crazy benefit to give my opinion about a school I attended. And I know you used your friends numbers, but I used the actual websites of both schools for 2019 and saw your estimations of COA was off.

 

[GoDental101]

I consider "Too long; didn't read" rude...Not like I get paid or some crazy benefit to give my opinion about a school I attended.

I’m sorry I thought Roseman was paying you or giving you was A’s to convince people that their overpriced program was worth it over a cheaper program. My bad.

 

[sobertiger]

They're both overpriced but it is what it is I guess

 

[Jlm50]

UNE isn't easy but everyone cares about you being the best dentist you can be so I love it. We have people from all over the USA in my class. From Canada, Hawaii, Cali, Florida, etc and they all are still able to go home for breaks and such. Our class has an Instagram where our year has been documented. Check it out and if you have specific questions just comment.
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[Tooth Fairy 1]

I’m sorry I thought Roseman was paying you or giving you was A’s to convince people that their overpriced program was worth it over a cheaper program. My bad.

They're both overpriced. And no dumb*** I don't need an incentive; it's actually from the goodness of my heart.

 

[GoDental101]

They're both overpriced. And no dumb*** I don't need an incentive; it's actually from the goodness of my heart.

I forgot to clarify UNE is overpriced, Roseman is ridiculously overpriced. I don’t understand how you consider trying to convince someone to spend extra money on the same result a good part of your heart...I’d hate to see the bad parts. Good luck though paying off those loans!
OP my votes for UNE...best wishes!

 

[GoDental101]

They're both overpriced. And no dumb*** I don't need an incentive; it's actually from the goodness of my heart.

Also there is no need to be calling be people names on here. I’m not a dumb*** and neither are you so just be nice. The only reason you don’t understand the gravity of the cost difference between these two schools is because you are in denial about how your school debt is going to impact your future. I’m just trying to help people in their future by simply GOING TO THE CHEAPER SCHOOL.