RVU vs CNU

[Kodiak22]

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Hi all,

I am having a hard time choosing between RVU and CNU.

Here is the short list:
RVU pros:
Good board scores and match list
Love the area
Great curriculum

RVU cons:
Do school (which doesn’t bother me but not sure how i would be affected with the residency merger)

Cnu pros:
MD
Good usmle scores

Cnu cons:
location of school
Did not have a great feeling during interview day
Private loans
Match list didn’t seem very impressive to me

Overall I like RVU better in terms of school and area but CNU is a MD school and has good USMLE scores so far. Any thoughts??

 

[mc29012]

RVU seems like a way better fit for you. The fact that the only pro you can come up with for CNU specifically is the letters after your name makes me think that you would be happier at RVU. Also don't underestimate how rough private loans can be. Variable interest and lack of loan forgiveness down the road can really balloon the difference in overall cost, plus theres less flexibility when repaying during residency/fellowship years.

 

[Cath Up]

I imagine this is around as close of a comparison you can have with regards to DO vs MD, as RVU has had solid results so far (and as far as I've heard is in a nice location) and CNU is not well regarded in the MD community.

Anyway, CNU 10/10 times- you'll have more opportunity with the MD than the DO. It shouldn't necessarily be that way, but it be like that. Best of luck to you.

And while the CNU matches I've seen haven't been stellar, almost all DO schools couldn't hold a candle to their specializations/residency locations.

 

[Kodiak22]

I imagine this is around as close of a comparison you can have with regards to DO vs MD, as RVU has had solid results so far (and as far as I've heard is in a nice location) and CNU is not well regarded in the MD community.

Anyway, CNU 10/10 times- you'll have more opportunity with the MD than the DO. It shouldn't necessarily be that way, but it be like that. Best of luck to you.

And while the CNU matches I've seen haven't been stellar, almost all DO schools couldn't hold a candle to their specializations/residency locations.

What do you think of these 2 match lists? RVU has more placement into specialties but I’m not sure about all of the locations. I’ve heard a lot of mixed things about that.

https://medicine.cnsu.edu/shareddocs/Academic/Match-Results-2019-corrected-version_updated.pdf

http://www.rvu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Residency_MatchList_2019.pdf

 

[Cath Up]

What do you think of these 2 match lists? RVU has more placement into specialties but I’m not sure about all of the locations. I’ve heard a lot of mixed things about that.

https://medicine.cnsu.edu/shareddocs/Academic/Match-Results-2019-corrected-version_updated.pdf

http://www.rvu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Residency_MatchList_2019.pdf

The things I look for in match lists are proportion specialized (not in primary care specialties) and proportion in university programs. Of course, the most important part of match lists is if people matched where they wanted, in specialties they wanted to match in. But these are pretty much always going to remain unknowns (schools don't really release this info), hence looking for what I mentioned above. I want to clarify that I don't necessarily hold the belief that training in university programs is generally better or will necessarily make one a better physician- but my understanding is they do tend to be more competitive. So looking for those programs in match lists helps you answer the question: are students at this school able to match to competitive places when they want to?

So if most of a class happened to actually want primary care specialties, it could be a great list and I might be predisposed to think it wasn't as competitive or something. So you can never read too much into match lists, in my opinion.

For the lists you gave me, this is what I sloppily (there could be some errors) came up with:

CNU:
58 total matches
28 (48%) obvious uni matches
23 (40%) in FM/IM/peds

RVU:
~150 total matches
56 (37%) obvious uni programs
72 (48%) in FM/IM/peds

On top of that, I saw proportionally more CA residencies on CNU's list, which I think are generally (not always) a bit more competitive because lots of people want to live in Cali. This is obviously more skewed though because RVU students aren't in Cali so probably don't want to go there as much as CNU students. But, I think it is worth mentioning.

 

[Kodiak22]

The things I look for in match lists are proportion specialized (not in primary care specialties) and proportion in university programs. Of course, the most important part of match lists is if people matched where they wanted, in specialties they wanted to match in. But these are pretty much always going to remain unknowns (schools don't really release this info), hence looking for what I mentioned above. I want to clarify that I don't necessarily hold the belief that training in university programs is generally better or will necessarily make one a better physician- but my understanding is they do tend to be more competitive. So looking for those programs in match lists helps you answer the question: are students at this school able to match to competitive places when they want to?

So if most of a class happened to actually want primary care specialties, it could be a great list and I might be predisposed to think it wasn't as competitive or something. So you can never read too much into match lists, in my opinion.

For the lists you gave me, this is what I sloppily (there could be some errors) came up with:

CNU:
58 total matches
28 (48%) obvious uni matches
23 (40%)in FM/IM/peds

RVU:
~150 total matches
56 (37%) obvious uni programs
72 (48%) in FM/IM/peds

On top of that, I saw proportionally more CA residencies on CNU's list, which I think are generally (not always) a bit more competitive because lots of people want to live in Cali. This is obviously more skewed though because RVU students aren't in Cali so probably don't want to go there as much as CNU students. But, I think it is worth mentioning.

Oh ok that makes sense, thank you for that information! That was very helpful!

 

[Cath Up]

Oh ok that makes sense, thank you for that information! That was very helpful!

Yeah, of course. Please don't let my opinion influence you too much, and do what you feel is best for yourself.

Also, people generally do not post real photos of themselves on here, just FYI- it's not like there's much risk, but you'd be safer changing it to something else. I recommend my cat, but I doubt you have photos of her.