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schools know about Multi accept. I just interviewed at Jefferson today and they told me that they have a list of people holding multi acceptances. Has anyone else heard this?
 
I thought they weren't allowed to have that information until May 15th. Maybe they're lying? lol
 
dr midnight said:
schools know about Multi accept. I just interviewed at Jefferson today and they told me that they have a list of people holding multi acceptances. Has anyone else heard this?
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They only have this information after March 15th. And only the schools that have already accepted you recieve this information.
 
That is not what Jefferson told me today. I even questioned them on it and they repeated it to me They have a list of those with multi acceptances. I was surprised.
 
dr midnight said:
That is not what Jefferson told me today. I even questioned them on it and they repeated it to me They have a list of those with multi acceptances. I was surprised.
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W-w-what?? O rly. Wait, maybe I can use this to my advantage. Check your multi-acceptance list, Jeff. What say you to a scholarship if I attend?
 
dr midnight said:
That is not what Jefferson told me today. I even questioned them on it and they repeated it to me They have a list of those with multi acceptances. I was surprised.
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Seems against AAMC traffic rules.
 
Admission officers DO talk. That's how they know "unofficially"
 
I think this is true. I had a Dean tell me a couple of days ago that she knew "I had a lot of options." Nine acceptances for me. I'm sure she knew. Maybe March 15 isn't the magic date.
 
plauto said:
Admission officers DO talk. That's how they know "unofficially"
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Yes I would love to hear from Lizzy. I am telling the truth I was just as shocked as everyone else. It may be "unoffical" but they know.
 
dr midnight said:
Yes I would love to hear from Lizzy. I am telling the truth I was just as shocked as everyone else. It may be "unoffical" but they know.
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Yeah, I always thought it was a little naive to think that schools are so in the dark about their applicants. If you ever have to wonder if they "know" or "don't know" ... chances are ... they "KNOW"! May 15 ... rules ... pffft.
 
Did you submit a FAFSA? I asked a FAFSA representative about what FAFSA personal info was available to medical schools. Apparently all of it is. Including med schools you choose to send a copy. Of course, there is no way of them knowing whether or not you have been accepted to these schools--just that you listed them on your FAFSA.
 
plauto said:
Admission officers DO talk. That's how they know "unofficially"
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I don't buy it. With the number of schools out there, the school doing the snooping would have to get pretty lucky to happen to contact the correct schools that a given applicant applied to. Multiplying this by the number of students being reviewed makes for a task that even the biggest gossip of a dean couldn't handle.
 
I dunno I heard that they at least have access to the list of schools you applied to. It's included on your primary AMCAS if you print a hard copy for example, so it seems reasonable that that page is also sent to each and every school on that list.
 
theWestVillage said:
I dunno I heard that they at least have access to the list of schools you applied to. It's included on your primary AMCAS if you print a hard copy for example, so it seems reasonable that that page is also sent to each and every school on that list.
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That for sure is just a pre-med myth you heard: this page is only on the student copy and is not included in what they send to the schools. They do not know where you have applied. Which is why a common interview question is "where else have you applied/interviewed?" If they already knew they would not waste their time on it.
 
3 little birds said:
Did you submit a FAFSA? I asked a FAFSA representative about what FAFSA personal info was available to medical schools. Apparently all of it is. Including med schools you choose to send a copy. Of course, there is no way of them knowing whether or not you have been accepted to these schools--just that you listed them on your FAFSA.
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Good point, I hadn't thought of that. Perhaps the Jefferson people were getting their information from this. Seems logical that you would only designate schools you were accepted to (usually) so perhaps they infer that about those on the list.
 
Hey guys, I am just telling you what they told our group believe it or not. deal with it. They said they know what schools you have been accepted to!!!, I doubt that they would lie about it. I also was very surprised so I questioned them on this and they came up with the same answer. They didn't say what schools you have applied to or interviewed or wait listed just accepted and holding multi places. I did fill out my fin aid but I am sure not everyone else had. I even listed schools I am still waiting to hear from...I filled in all 10 spaces. With 4 MD schools in Philly poss the whole state. I am sure they share information.
 
Rooter76 said:
Good point, I hadn't thought of that. Perhaps the Jefferson people were getting their information from this. Seems logical that you would only designate schools you were accepted to (usually) so perhaps they infer that about those on the list.
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Sure, but some people also list schools that are still pending. Wishful thinking I guess. In fact, some schools tell you at the interview to list them ASAP--even before acceptance. So it would have some correlation but not an exact list of acceptances.
 
Adcom members never see the list, at least not at my school. (I did see it once or twice in another capacity but not until September.) The Dean of Admissions and full time staff in the admissions office may see the list when it is released by AMCAS.

Could it be that the speaker used the present tense when the future tense would be more correct, as in "we know how many offers you hold, we have the list, don't try to hold more than one offer after May 15".

Based on past experience, schools know that many (almost all?) applicants with one offer hold more than one. Some applicants are so stellar that you just know that they will get an offer at every school that interviews them. Administrators can also see if you are holding more than one offer after May 15 and I know from talking with them that they get very annoyed at these applicants because making a late decision to drop a school can cause a need to go the waitlist rather late in the season.
 
LizzyM said:
Adcom members never see the list, at least not at my school. (I did see it once or twice in another capacity but not until September.) The Dean of Admissions and full time staff in the admissions office may see the list when it is released by AMCAS.

Could it be that the speaker used the present tense when the future tense would be more correct, as in "we know how many offers you hold, we have the list, don't try to hold more than one offer after May 15".

Based on past experience, schools know that many (almost all?) applicants with one offer hold more than one. Some applicants are so stellar that you just know that they will get an offer at every school that interviews them. Administrators can also see if you are holding more than one offer after May 15 and I know from talking with them that they get very annoyed at these applicants because making a late decision to drop a school can cause a need to go the waitlist rather late in the season.
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Thanks for weighing in, LizzyM. So, the date that schools you've been accepted at can see your other acceptances is May 15th? For some reason I thought it was March 15th. I remember people posting in the past how they got a scholarship from a school in the exact amount to make tuition equal to the state school they were holding an acceptance at as well. But perhaps they were notified in May - can't recall.

One more question - can a school you're waitlisted at see what acceptances you hold at any time in the cycle? Or are only schools you've been accepted at privy to that information, even in May?
 
When I interviewed at Michigan, the Dean said that they can see everywhere you've been accepted on March 15th. They give out scholarships shortly after this date (around March 25th), and their decisions on awards is based partly on where else you've gotten in. So it seems like, at the latest, schools can see where else you've been accepted (as long as they've accepted you), on March 15th.

I always thought that as soon as a school accepted you, they could see where else you've gotten in. But maybe that isn't true?
 
letitgo said:
When I interviewed at Michigan, the Dean said that they can see everywhere you've been accepted on March 15th. They give out scholarships shortly after this date (around March 25th), and their decisions on awards is based partly on where else you've gotten in. So it seems like, at the latest, schools can see where else you've been accepted (as long as they've accepted you), on March 15th.

I always thought that as soon as a school accepted you, they could see where else you've gotten in. But maybe that isn't true?
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i've heard Lizzy say this before.
 
thank you Lizzy. I know what your saying is the norm. I do know what they said, I am not trying to make trouble but is it possible for them to know? Also with 4 schools in Philly and more state wide I am sure the competition is high for many of the same students, I am sure they share information. I just talked to my adviser and she said there is an unoffical list out. many of the states where there is multi schools often look at it, some don't bother (she was on adcom at NYMC). Many times Adcom doesn't see it. but if you want it it is available
 
LizzyM said:
I know that the list is available on May 15. Whether it is available on March 15 -- I don't know. Just don't show up as holding more than one offer on May 15.
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not that i plan to or think it's a good idea, but what exactly are the ramifications if you do hold multiple acceptances after May 15?
 
Jolie South said:
not that i plan to or think it's a good idea, but what exactly are the ramifications if you do hold multiple acceptances after May 15?
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Supposedly, a school can dump you (withdraw the offer of admission) for such an infraction. I suppose that a school that is over-subscribed can use this to its advantage.
 
Jolie South said:
not that i plan to or think it's a good idea, but what exactly are the ramifications if you do hold multiple acceptances after May 15?
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i've always been curious about this too. i worry that i'll withdraw from somewhere but it won't completely happen because of miscommunication and i'll get kicked out of the country for having multiple acceptances on 5/15.
 
Lizzy thank you for your information. I have another question for you. ok I have multi accept. I withdraw from all but 1 ( as the rule) by May 15 and 1 school is very slow in updating their list and I get dropped by the school I really want. I have heard of students withdrawing from schools (months ago) and are still on there roster
 
dr midnight said:
Lizzy thank you for your information. I have another question for you. ok I have multi accept. I withdraw from all but 1 ( as the rule) by May 15 and 1 school is very slow in updating their list and I get dropped by the school I really want. I have heard of students withdrawing from schools (months ago) and are still on there roster
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As an Adcom I'm not directy involved with this aspect (our job is done after the decisions are made about offer/waitlist/decline letters), but I suspect that you get a call from the admissions office that goes something like this,

"We want to confirm that you are coming to World's Greatest Medical College because the information we've received from AMCAS indicates that you are also listed as matriculating at Best in the West Medical School. Which is it because we'd like to be sure our list is accurate." At that point you can confirm that you've withdrawn your application from BWMS and you know that the admissions office might just call BWMS to confirm that you are off the list there.

I suspect that if you are caught lying to both they will dump you like a pair of hotties that find out that you've been cheating on each of them with the other.
 
dr midnight said:
Lizzy thank you for your information. I have another question for you. ok I have multi accept. I withdraw from all but 1 ( as the rule) by May 15 and 1 school is very slow in updating their list and I get dropped by the school I really want. I have heard of students withdrawing from schools (months ago) and are still on there roster
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I would bet that they would contact you first before dropping you for holding multiple acceptances post May 15th. I'm sure this happens frequently for people that drop right before the deadline, and I would be shocked if they didn't contact you first before taking action so you could say "Actually, I officially withdrew from that other school yesterday, and can forward you a copy of the email (or, I spoke with so and so, and you can speak with them to confirm)."
 
I heard that it is a courtesy if you CC your chosen school when you are emailing other schools to withdraw right around the May 15th deadline, so that they know you've dropped even if it hasn't been updated. Is that right?
 
I have it on high authority (ie I personally know a good friend who works in the financial aid office of an unnamed med school) that there is in fact a list out and currently available for people holding multiple accepts. I was sort of shocked about this, but this is how it was explained to me:

It is not used for making admission decisions. It is used for making tempting scholarship offers to the kids that they really want, but might go somewhere else without some financial encouragement. They only have this list if the student has already been accepted to their institute, but are currently deciding scholarships based off of it...I stake my SDN reputation on the fact that this is all completely true.

It couldn't really hurt you, but might help you to get a scholarship offer sooner.
 
scowdeva said:
I have it on high authority (ie I personally know a good friend who works in the financial aid office of an unnamed med school) that there is in fact a list out and currently available for people holding multiple accepts. I was sort of shocked about this, but this is how it was explained to me:

It is not used for making admission decisions. It is used for making tempting scholarship offers to the kids that they really want, but might go somewhere else without some financial encouragement. They only have this list if the student has already been accepted to their institute, but are currently deciding scholarships based off of it...I stake my SDN reputation on the fact that this is all completely true.

It couldn't really hurt you, but might help you to get a scholarship offer sooner.
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THANK YOU I am not crazy.
 
agreed. the assistant(?) dean of admissions at UIC also said they have a list of students holding multiple acceptences-- that was on february 12th.
 
Wait a sec... so then that should be all the more reason to NOT turn down offers until Late April. Even if you know where you're going, wouldn't it be wise to show the school "hey... I might go to plan B, so you better give me a good financial aid packet!" Dammit! I already turned down one offer. Ugh.
 
RedSox1982 said:
Wait a sec... so then that should be all the more reason to NOT turn down offers until Late April. Even if you know where you're going, wouldn't it be wise to show the school "hey... I might go to plan B, so you better give me a good financial aid packet!" Dammit! I already turned down one offer. Ugh.
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Exactly. That's why I'm holding onto mine until May.
 
It's not a huge concern unless the list is circulating to all schools - not just ones that have accepted you. If there is an "unofficial" list circulating, I think most applicants should be pissed off about it. (I highly doubt that such a list exists, but wouldn't be shocked - it's a small world.)

At my UCinci interview, their head of admissions went into detail about May 15th. He obviously confirmed that they find out on May 15th and that schools start calling you to see what's going on. He also said that some schools give a day or two for everyone to get phone calls and realize they need to inform their schools what is going on ASAP. If someone screws around and doesn't inform their schools rather quickly, they grab someone off the wait list. The list is updated every day, so once you send School X a notice saying "I'm not going to School X" then it jumps off the list - meaning School Y knows exactly who you've told and who you haven't and follows it rather closely.
 
Corker said:
I think this is true. I had a Dean tell me a couple of days ago that she knew "I had a lot of options." Nine acceptances for me. I'm sure she knew. Maybe March 15 isn't the magic date.
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Nine? There must not be a single flaw in your app if you have nine acceptances. What are the highlights of your app?
 
Where exactly does this list come from anyway?
 
so really its just giving you leverage for a financial aid package? i almost wish that med schools would get to see it before they "admit" you so they know what they are up against. i mean, what does a school do once they 'admit" you, does it got into a central server and then suddenly they get a list of every school we are already in at? it almost seems like when we found out our mcat scores online after finding the strength to put in our id numbers or whatever
 
hmmmmm

so the schools do have access to a list of our current acceptances??? well that is kind of cool... i wonder if this does work in our favor... on a similiar note...

how does one go about negotiating for a scholarship??? i have 8 md acceptances... and i am deciding between four of them (because i am neurotic and have no idea how to really decide)...the one deciding factor between my schools currently is money....my favorite school is just too expensive when compared to my very close favorite second school... who just offered me an unbelievable scholarship....

can i really call school number one and say... i would go here...but i can't ignore the price difference...esp since school number 2 offered me a great scholarship and u have offered me nothing???

or do i just sound pretentious and pompous...and will they tell me to get over myself because there are plenty of ppl on their waitlist who will go there without a scholarship???
 
LizzyM said:
I suspect that if you are caught lying to both they will dump you like a pair of hotties that find out that you've been cheating on each of them with the other.
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If only all AdCom members spoke like this, haha. That's an awesome analogy..
 
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