Science classes at college ??

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Hallo,
I have a question regarding college level science courses ( IChem , O CHem .. etc )
what's a typical calender for the class ? are there a lot of assignments ?? how about tests , how many tests there will be ?? how hard are the classes compared to AP courses and HS level courses ??

thanks a lot
 
They are much harder. O chem for me was 4 Exams followed by one final comprehensive exam. And believe me they go over details and give about 15 random quizzes. You really do have to buckle down if you want to do well. Good luck!😀
 
I didn't take chemistry in high school, so I don't possess the experience to make this a clear comparison, but I will say that I am surprised at how little homework there is in college science classes.

For instance, my chemistry class only has one homework component (online via Mastering Chemistry). The homework on there can be difficult and time consuming at times, but it's a totally manageable workload considering the length of the term.

In college, the challenge isn't the massive amount of homework - it's evolving into an independent learner. A learner who works above and beyond the homework in hopes of attaining a deeper grasp of the material.

That's the real homework: studying.

You must be ready to sit down and examine the material at a deeper level for hours and hours a week. The homework helps you, but it's not the key to success.



Source: guy who went back to school at 22, is 24, and goes to a large public university.
 
They are much harder. O chem for me was 4 Exams followed by one final comprehensive exam. And believe me they go over details and give about 15 random quizzes. You really do have to buckle down if you want to do well. Good luck!😀
College is harder than AP. If you took any AP classes, it's usually watered down and they go a lot slower.

Imagine learning harder material but instead of having class for 1.5 hours a day for 5 days a week for 8 months to learn it, you only have class for 3 hours a week for 15 weeks per semester.


Thanks a lot ...
how do people mange to get a High GPA and grades in college ?? ( I know it's about learning the material and getting deep in it ) but what are the tips that enhance the chances. Being in AP biology right now , I find my self not being okay sometimes ( Hard to mange and hard to learn due to English ), however , I love the subject ... but I find it hard to mange learning in a high school system - 8 hours in a seat.
 
I didn't take chemistry in high school, so I don't possess the experience to make this a clear comparison, but I will say that I am surprised at how little homework there is in college science classes.

For instance, my chemistry class only has one homework component (online via Mastering Chemistry). The homework on there can be difficult and time consuming at times, but it's a totally manageable workload considering the length of the term.

In college, the challenge isn't the massive amount of homework - it's evolving into an independent learner. A learner who works above and beyond the homework in hopes of attaining a deeper grasp of the material.

That's the real homework: studying.

You must be ready to sit down and examine the material at a deeper level for hours and hours a week. The homework helps you, but it's not the key to success.



Source: guy who went back to school at 22, is 24, and goes to a large public university.
I agree with you about being an Independent learner 🙂
but is there a lot of reading ??? ( Especially in Chemistry and Physics )
how about the Exams - Many times I heard from college students saying that the test is not the same as what they studied for it .. does that really happen ??
 
Just looked at my Orgo 2 syllabus and our last test is comprised of Ch's 1-25 which include material from Orgo 1. Does anyone else have a similar syllabus like that.
 
I agree with you about being an Independent learner 🙂
but is there a lot of reading ??? ( Especially in Chemistry and Physics )
how about the Exams - Many times I heard from college students saying that the test is not the same as what they studied for it .. does that really happen ??

I haven't taken physics yet, so I can't comment on that. Considering that fundamentally physics is math-intensive, I would imagine that there is less reading than in chemistry.

As far as chemistry - yes there is a lot of reading. Some material is more conceptual, and you'll benefit greatly by reading the textbook (quantum theory and molecular geometry come to mind).

Other material is more mathematically-oriented, so if you're talented you could probably manage to still be successful by just practicing problems, barely touching the textbook.

The amount of reading required for general chemistry, at least at my university, is definitely not overwhelming. You can just read a little every night if you prefer. Don't worry about the amount you have to read - it's really not so bad. From what I hear, it's a joke compared to any graduate level coursework - let alone medical school.

As far as the tests and their unpredictability factor, well that depends on your professor.

Some professors will prepare you for the exams with practice tests that will be similar to what you will see on their tests, while others will be very vague about what a student should concentrate on.

The reality is this: Some tests will be difficult no matter how intelligent you are, or how hard you studied. The keyword is some. If you're a motivated student, you won't likely see many exam questions that "punch you in the stomach."

I have heard people say that some of their professors seem to be purposefully tricky, but I think a lot of those kind of sentiments stem from frustration.

Anyway, I don't want to scare you. Know this: if you work hard you'll be fine! I know it all seems rather daunting now, but when you enter college and take a few tests you'll soon realize that you're going to be just fine.

It's not easy, but it ain't that hard either. You just have to work!
 
I agree with you about being an Independent learner 🙂
but is there a lot of reading ??? ( Especially in Chemistry and Physics )
how about the Exams - Many times I heard from college students saying that the test is not the same as what they studied for it .. does that really happen ??

Quite often. You will be tested on like 4-5 chapters at a time (3-4 tests + a final) but you never know exactly what the prof. will focus on. This is very very common in engineering. In engineering classes you learn the fundamentals during lecture and you have to apply what you learned on problems that you have never seem (but are doable if you really understand what you learned during lectures).

For me personally, genchem and physics were very easy because they were math based. Which meant it was less reading then Bio and Ochem. Ochem was definitely the hardest because of all the reading required.
 
Just looked at my Orgo 2 syllabus and our last test is comprised of Ch's 1-25 which include material from Orgo 1. Does anyone else have a similar syllabus like that.

by last test, do you mean the final? I took a standardized final for ochem which included stuff from both semesters (made by the American chemical society)
 
Hallo,
I have a question regarding college level science courses ( IChem , O CHem .. etc )
what's a typical calender for the class ? are there a lot of assignments ?? how about tests , how many tests there will be ?? how hard are the classes compared to AP courses and HS level courses ??

thanks a lot

AP/IB is a joke in comparison.
I rarely have any homework in any science courses, and I had five exams in ochem one (4 exams + 1 comprehensive final), and 3 exams/7 quizzes in ochem two.
:luck:
 
Nope, last test BEFORE the ACS final.
My god that hurts.
 
The AP courses I took had a slower pace than their college counter-parts. That said I had less homework in my college classes than my high school courses.
 
The amount of assignments and exams depends on the professor. For my Organic chem class, I had 4 exams, 1 final. With pretty much a "surprise quiz" every single time the class met. And when we compare college classes to AP courses, college classes are much harder.
 
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