Scribing and projected clinical hours

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[candbgirl]

Well shadowing clinical experiences are two separate areas. So how many shadowing and how many clinical from that 60 hours you currently have. Expected hours are 50 shadowing , including primary care. And 200+ clinical experiences. All applicants are impacted to some degree by Covid but many applicants will have figured out a way to keep up with their ECs. I’m really confused by your start dates so I’m not sure how to respond but it has been stated many times that projected hours are just that-PROJECTED. As we have all learned this past year, life intervenes and your activities might not get done. Just because you have the go ahead now who knows what will happen. I think you should hold off to submit your application to July orvAugustband build up some hours. You can still project hours for after that time but if you have 200 hours under your belt it won’t be so bad if the rest falls through. I for sure would not apply with 60 hours covering clinical experiences and shadowing.

 

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[Rogue42]

Yeah, this still does not make entire sense.

It comes to this: if you have a job, you list the start date as whatever that is. You then add whatever hours you currently have, then average how many hours you work a week multiplied by how many weeks you plan to keep that position. For example, when I applied as a scribe, I had 1500 hours, but I planned on keeping that job until I matriculated (or had to reapply the next year). Therefore, I projected my hours out an entire year such as 35 hours x 52 weeks, and added whatever that was to my current hours. So on my application it said something like, "3,000 hours" and in the description, it said, "*all of the things I learned from this job* NOTE: X amount of these hours are projected to xyz date, and are subject to change." You do the same thing to other hours that are still current such as volunteering.

The other option is that you apply with whatever you have, and project nothing. Then in your little blurb about that activity you write something like, "I plan on staying full-time in this position....so that by matriculation I plan to have over xyz hours...or...in this position so current hours are expected to increase by x amount a week until matriculation."

I do not think the difference between 150ish hours being projected / official is worth waiting one or one and a half months to apply. People project hours all the time. I also do not think you need to send an update on whether or not you actually completed it. Because if you put it on your application as something you are going to do, you better make dang sure you do it. Otherwise, they can call the contact, and if you have not done it, then it is considered lying, and there goes your application.

 

[candbgirl]

You were thinking of taking a gap year. Why have you decided not to? Just because you can now get back to scribing, your application hasn’t changed significantly from when you were considering a gap year. You still only have 20 hours of shadowing and 120(?) hours of clinical experiences. Not impressive.
How is the rest of your application? What does your nonclinical volunteering look like? How are your stats?
I’m really not sure why you are in such a hurry but based solely on your clinical stuff(you haven’t shared anything else) you really should put off applying until June 2022.

 

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[KnightDoc]

I am not in a hurry, it's just that I would find it an incredible waste of my time to spend an entire additional year just turning my clinical hours from 120 into 300, or something along those lines when the rest of my application is already far beyond a 'ready' level. I was under the impression that the point of clinical hours was to display a dedication to medicine and a "oh yeah, this is what I want to do." Although I'm aware I can't put high school hours on my application, I spent 5 years before college volunteering in a hospital and accumulated over a thousand hours—personally, I know this is what I want to do, and I tried to outline that briefly in my PS. Also, I WOULD have taken a gap year if my clinical activities have not resumed, but now that they have, I will be able to get to at least 150-80 come application time, or more depending if I apply a month later.

As for the rest of my app, I have 3.9+/518+, nonclinical is spread across two main activities (tutoring for disadvantaged, and a business I co-founded revolving around health education that has been accepted into ivy accelerators/launch pads) with a few other activities (blood drive ambassador, vaccine ambassador, helpline, etc. that I did during COVID), research can't really be any better, t10 undergrad. I didn't want this to turn into a chance post, as I will be applying; I just wanted advice on the clinical front.

I clearly tried to stay involved with health/clinical activities throughout the pandemic despite not exactly being in a hospital, which makes me feel even worse if I would have to take a gap year literally for 150 more hours of clinical experience when I already know personally that I have enough to confirm my future desires. And yes, generally I understand the logic that my clinical is on the weaker side, but I would guess that the rest of my application would somewhat make up for that, given the holistic process.

So, your OP really comes down to whether you will be better off applying 6/1 with 150 hours completed or 7/1 with 300, correct? If so, given what you have described above, the answer is that it really won't matter. Whatever is going to happen, 150 hours one way or the other isn't going to move the needle on your application, and neither will whether your primary is submitted 3 months before Labor Day or 2. Good luck -- it sounds like you are going to be fine either way!!!

 

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[KnightDoc]

Wait is this actually true? I had read on another thread that submitting on June 1 vs. July 1 made a huge difference especially for more competitive schools -_-. Well in that case sorry for wasting your time, I will definitely just wait until July 1. I do think doubling clinical hours could make some difference though; plus if this is true it's just a net gain for me.

Nope. It's SDN premed neurosis run amuck! Anything complete before Labor Day is almost universally considered "on-time." The first transmission to schools does not occur until 5/27, and the first transmission to schools does not occur until 6/25.

Submitting on 5/27 WILL allow your application to be verified earlier than waiting until 7/1, but a 7/1 submission will still be verified by early August. If you are THAT concerned about the month, again, given the rest of your app, there is barely a difference between 150 completed with more projected and 300 completed with more projected. Just do whatever feels better to you! 🙂

If you don't believe me, just randomly pick a few "competitive schools" you are looking at (aren't they all? 🙂) and go into their school specific threads and see what the complete dates are for people receiving IIs. You will find they are all over the place, no matter which schools you pick.