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Please use this thread to state where you matched. Consider posting your stats for reference of newbies next year. If you prefer, use the Impressions account (password impressions).

Proposed Format (feel free to add whatever you think might be relevant):

Username:
Matched at:
Degree (MD, PhD etc)
matched at # on rank list:
Med school:
USMLE scores: step 1/step 2
Number of interviews:
AOA: (yes/no)
Publications: clinical/basic/none
Away rotation? At place matched?
Other things that helped with match:
 
Matched: Moffitt (offered position outside of the match)
Degree: MD
Med school: University of South Florida
Undergrad: Brandeis University
USMLE scores: 227/248
AOA: No
Publications: ASTRO poster, 1st author manuscript
RadOnc Rotations: Moffitt
3rd Year Grades: Mostly PC (high pass) with Honors in Surgery and Emergency Medicine, Honors in Radiation Oncology
Interviews: Moffitt, Maryland, Loyola, UTMB, Emory, UAB, Wayne State, Louisville, Jefferson, VCU/MCV, Cincinnati, Mayo-Jax (Applied to a total of 45 programs)
Other things that may have affected match: Ending up at Moffitt certainly was affected by it being my home program, which allowed me to spend a lot of time there. However, I think I got a fair number of interviews because I had great letters (so I was told on the interview trail) from some well-known faculty at Moffitt. Also, I increased my Step 1 score significantly which was also pointed out by interviewers.

I think it is important to recognize that it is possible to match even without amazing board scores. I remember looking at these forums as a second and third year student and thinking that I had no chance to match. I am proof that you don't have to have incredibly high board scores to get a good number of interview offers.
 
Matched at: Minnesota
Degree: MD
Med school: MCW
Undergrad: BYU
USMLE scores: 251/232 (I got my Step2 score back after rank lists were in)
AOA: Yes (senior)
Publications: One 1st author clinical project in red journal- submitted at time of ERAS and just published last month. Poster accepted at ARS in May. Also basic science poster in unrelated field from 1st summer of med school and a poster and a non-1st author pub from undergrad.
RadOnc Rotations: MCW and Mayo
3rd Year Grades: Honors in Medicine, rad onc, psych. HighPass in everything else.
Interviews: (15) Miami, MayoJax, Mayo the big one, CCF, JHH, MCW, Loyola, Minnesota, OSU, Indiana, Louisville, Thomas Jefferson, Henry Ford, Wayne State, UVA.
Applied to: 55
Other things that may have affected match: kick*** personal statement? nah, nobody reads those things
 
Matched: University of Kentucky
Degree: MD
Med School: Wake Forest
Undergrad: UNC-Chapel Hill
USMLE Scores: 253 step I, 267 step II
AOA: yes, junior year
Publications: 1 first author journal article (clinical), 5th author on book chapter, 1 abstract poster presentation at nat meeting, another 5th author journal pub from college
Aways: Duke, UAB
3rd year grades: Honors in Inpat Int Med, Neurology, Fam Med, Peds, Outpat Int Med
Programs Applied: 33, 19 interview offers, attended 15
Interviews: Kentucky, Duke, UAB, Wake Forest, Penn, WBH, Wash U, MUSC, Emory, CCF, UVa, UT-SW, IU, Georgetown, U Florida
 
Matched at: U of Chicago
Degree: MD
matched at # on rank list: 1 (tough choice between this and the U Wisc program but applying as part of couples match made this the final decision)
Med school: MCV
USMLE scores: 256/261
Number of interviews: went to 6 (had 9 interview offers). Applied to ~30 programs.
AOA: yes, junior
Publications: none, but fair amount of basic science research
Away rotation? NYU
Other things that helped with match: Know what the weaknesses are in your application (0 publications for me) and then turning that into some sort of positive during the interview. For ex, saying how interested I was in research, saying how my research experiences helped me understand what are feasible projects given a resident's already busy schedule, and using that as a positive for U of C where you get a full year of bench time. Just look at your application with a critical eye and you'll be prepared for whatever they might ask of you.
 
Username: LCK
Matched at: University of Alabama at Birmingham
Degree: MD
Matched at # on rank list: 1
Med school: University of South Florida
USMLE scores: 257/281, I did have step 2 score when applying
Number of interviews: 22 invites- went on 15
Interview places (went to): UAB, Emory, UNC-Chapel Hill, U Penn, U Florida, U Maryland, U Virginia, Cleveland Clinic, Thomas Jefferson, NYU, MCV, Tufts/New England Med Ctr, U Cincinnati, MUSC, Indiana U
# of programs applied to: 52
AOA: Yes
Publications: 2 non-rad onc pubs, 1 rad onc pub in the works- all clinical
Away rotation: No aways
3rd year grades: Honored all but a high pass in Ob/gyn
Other things that helped with match: I was told my letters were good- 1 being from my chair who is well known, the rad onc pub I am working on was definitely more helpful than my non-rad onc ones, I think I should have done a couple of aways
 
that's great folks. keep 'em coming. Congrats to you all.
 
Username: SLEEPYHEADZZZ
Matched at: KAISER - LA
Degree (MD, PhD etc): MD
matched at # on rank list: #1
Med school: Boston University School of Medicine
USMLE scores: step 1/step 2: 252/268
Number of interviews: 8
Interview places (went to): Kaiser, UCLA, USC, California Pacific (CPMC), UTMB, Jefferson, Mt. Sinai, SUNY Downstate
AOA: No
3rd year grades: Honors in Surg, Psych,Peds, Rad onc rotations
Publications: clinical/basic/none: 1 Tumor immunology poster during undergrad, One cancer related radiology case report, one on-going clinical research project on Prostate Brachytherapy
Away rotation? At place matched? Kaiser and Mt. Sinai
Other things that helped with match: AWAY rotations are very crucial, i felt most places didn't care about my grades, just cared about board scores and radiation oncology research, If i could have changed anything I would have started research very early, but either way I wanted to match home into a large Southern California program, so it has worked out!!! Also programs like interviewing people they feel have a connection with their region, thus I recieved no interviews from the midwest or southeast regions. Letters of rec are also very important, at one interview, the chairman just took out my LOR and read it, and said "I believe him, got any questions?" Rad onc is a crazy field to match into, and I am so happy i got a piece of the pie! wahoo!!!!
 
just a quick note. reading these posts as a person who applied and matched this year makes me feel lucky. I believe this would make me stressed out if I were applying now. many of us who matched did not have as stellar of a record (my step 1 <240). you can't change your scores and grades, but you can work hard at your aways. your home instn is your best bet.
 
Matched at: Didn't match
Degree (MD, PhD etc): MD
Med school: midwest state school
USMLE scores: 235/253
Number of interviews: 7 offered
Interview places (went to): UTMB, Wayne State, Duke, U Wash, Iowa, Georgetown
AOA: Junior
3rd year grades: Honors in all but neurology and FP
Publications: 1 clinical first-author radonc publication in the works
Away rotation? No "official" aways. 2+ months at a private practice comprehensive center.
Other things that DIDN'T help with match: Extensive community service experience and teaching experience were never mentioned in my interviews. One dept. chair mentioned that I had the best personal statement he'd read all year, for what's it's worth (obviously not much).
 
Although I was fortunate to have high board scores, I totally agree with what was said by "impressions" two posts ago. Student doctor, in general, tends to have people posting who may not best represent all those who matched. But hopefully we have a pretty broad representation and if everyone posts, this will be the most helpful for those next year. And strengths in other areas (research without even a Ph.D. and aways) can definitely make up for less than a stellar academic record.
 
Although I was fortunate to have high board scores, I totally agree with what was said by "impressions" two posts ago. Student doctor, in general, tends to have people posting who may not best represent all those who matched. But hopefully we have a pretty broad representation and if everyone posts, this will be the most helpful for those next year. And strengths in other areas (research without even a Ph.D. and aways) can definitely make up for less than a stellar academic record.

Agreed. As I mention above, I was freaked out over the past several years before actually going through the application process because I saw how almost everyone had 240-260 board scores. I took a leap of faith and applied anyways without a backup. I hope people realize that you can do very well without these board scores (given you have other strong parts of your application).
 
Scrambled: Case Western
Degree: MD
Med School: Med. Coll. of Ga
Undergrad: Georgia Tech
USMLE Scores: 257 step I, 271 step II
AOA: yes, junior year
Publications: 4 publications (none first author, none rad onc), 4 poster presentations, one oral presentation (not rad onc)
Aways: MD Anderson, UAB
3rd/4th year grades: All A's except for a B in Neuro
Interviews (13): Mayo Jax, UAB, Emory, MUSC, UVA, Johns Hopkins, Maryland, Pitt, Rush, Minn, Tufts, Beaumont, Penn
Other: no home program or department at my med school
Scrambling is no fun, feel extremely lucky to have scrambled!
 
Agreed. As I mention above, I was freaked out over the past several years before actually going through the application process because I saw how almost everyone had 240-260 board scores. I took a leap of faith and applied anyways without a backup. I hope people realize that you can do very well without these board scores (given you have other strong parts of your application).

What Impressions, LCK and Mike say are what Ive been saying for a while.
Unfortunately, SDN is very skewed. There are many people-even at great programs- who dont have super scores. There are other things of course that make them great candidates who DO match. And at great places too.

If would be wonderful if we could see them here.
 
I am pretty intimidated to post my info without 240-260 scores, but I know I was very encouraged by napolean dynamite and few others last year with this thread, so in that spirit, do NOT let board scores on SDN get you down...go for it!

Username: RadOncRudy
Matched at: Beaumont
Degree: MD
matched at # on rank list: 1
Med school: Loyola
USMLE scores: step 1 219/step 2 238
Interviews: 14 offered, went to 14--Beaumont, Colorado, UAB, UTMB-Galv, CPMC, Mayo Jax, Cincinnati, SUNY upstate-Syracuse, SUNY downstate-Brooklyn, MCV/VCU, Loyola, MCW, Henry Ford, MUSC
AOA: No
Publications: poster at ASTRO, oral presentation at RSNA (both rad onc related basic science research), 3 basic science publications--2 were onc research, 1 ID
Away rotation: 1 (Beaumont)
Other things that helped with match: I took a year off to do research between my third and fourth years and was lucky enough to be very productive. While some consider doing a year off not worth it, I consider every second of that time to have been time well spent despite the sacrifices I had to make in my personal life...if you have questions PM me. During the time of interviews, I was doing my poster and oral presentation which were great to talk about. I think one thing that also helped me a lot was the subject of my basic science research (avastin +RT in GBM); I had 2 strong letters (so I was told) from well-known people in the field and 1 letter from a rad onc at a big name institution who knew me extremely well. Good luck to next year’s candidates!
 
Just like the movie man! Well done and congratulations!! You would think the high of matching will eventually fade..it doesn't. It just gets sweeter and sweeter during intern year as you are continually reminded (every single call night!) that you chose very, very, very, very wisely 😀 I have a few colleagues who (already) regret choosing their field..you've landed the dream career, there really is nothing better out there!

I'm glad there's room in this field for a few normal Joe's.. And I wish more of you would post too. Congrats to all of you. ND.
 
Reaper,

Congrats on the scramble. Obviously you deserved a spot and I am stunned you didnt match. I think your situation is a nightmare one for many applicants. You have great grades, scores, research, and you did aways. what more could you possibly have done? Your situation just emphasizes how competitive this field has become. should be considered on par with derm and ortho, imho.

congrats again
 
Congrats everyone! Rudy, you may have been less of an underdog than you think 🙂 A commitment to the field, solid research, and impressive letters go a long way! I only wish your basketball team would've fared as well against Washington St! Reaper--Its crazy that you didn't match the first time around, but I'm glad everything worked out for you. As an MCG alum, I can tell you it'll be nice to get out of Augusta, even if it means moving to cleveland 😉
 
Matched at: Didn't match
Degree (MD, PhD etc): MD
Med school: State school with no home program
USMLE scores: 236/240
Number of interviews: 10 interviews at mid-low tier programs, ranked all 10
AOA: Junior
3rd year grades: Honors in surgery, OBGYN, peds
Publications: 1 clinical first-author radonc manuscript submitted, 1 second author radonc to be published in Red Journal, 1 ASTRO poster, 1 ACRO poster
Away rotation? 2 aways
Other things that DIDN'T help with match: No home program. Not being from prestigious school. Life experiences.

This forum is extremely skewed and I wanted to post because according to the number of spots (~130 and the applicants ~250) almost half of the applicants this year didn't match. Good candidates didn't match and average candidates did match. There is a combination of achievement, networking and luck involved in this process and it just didn't work out for some of us.
 
Congratulations! Good feeling, right???

The people that didn't match - don't fret too much. I spent March '05 to March '06 with a knot in my stomach, and it didn't matter - I ended up getting multiple offers. Should have just continued to enjoy myself - which you should do - you're graduating medical school this year and attempted to get into the most competitive specialty. Not quite the same as not making assistant manager at Wal-Mart.

You are all extremely qualified - more qualified than I was - and will get a spot. Get in touch with that Dan Flynn guy who lets people know about spots, follow this board, and contact all the PDs that were nice enough to interview you. You will be surprised how much they remember you. Tell you want to see them next December 🙂

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Matched at: Didn't match
Degree (MD, PhD etc): MD
Med school: State school with no home program
USMLE scores: 236/240
Number of interviews: 10 interviews at mid-low tier programs, ranked all 10
AOA: Junior
3rd year grades: Honors in surgery, OBGYN, peds
Publications: 1 clinical first-author radonc manuscript submitted, 1 second author radonc to be published in Red Journal, 1 ASTRO poster, 1 ACRO poster
Away rotation? 2 aways
Other things that DIDN'T help with match: No home program. Not being from prestigious school. Life experiences.

This forum is extremely skewed and I wanted to post because according to the number of spots (~130 and the applicants ~250) almost half of the applicants this year didn't match. Good candidates didn't match and average candidates did match. There is a combination of achievement, networking and luck involved in this process and it just didn't work out for some of us.

At least on paper I feel that this person was much more competitive than I, so I am simply amazed that he/she didn't match. It tells you how crazy this whole process is, and also how much chance has to do with whether you match or not (whether you'd like to think so or not).
 
Matched at: awesome mid-tier program
Degree (MD, PhD etc): MD
Med school: small private school, mid/low tier with no home program.
USMLE scores: step 1/step 2 - 233/247
Number of interviews: 16 offers, went on 14: Syracuse, Rochester, MCW, OHSU, Mt. Sinai, Fox Chase, Florida, UVA, Cincinnati, SUNY Downstate, Tufts, Thomas Jefferson, UWisconsin, UWashington. Couldn't make UTMB, Albert Einstein.
AOA: (yes/no) - yes, senior
clerkship grades: honors in all
Publications: - 4 manuscript publications (1 first author), all non rad onc. 3 posters and 1 oral presentation, also non rad onc. 1 radiosensitization study that led to a publication on which I was not an author. 2 clinical rad onc abstracts (retrospective reviews) in the works at interview time but not in time for my ERAS application.
Away rotation? Fox Chase, UVA
At place matched? nope
Other things that helped with match: luck 🙂, rad onc research/shadowing experience in another country, strong letters but no really big names and only 2 rad onc letters.
 
these are really helpful, intimidating as hell, but helpful? any other brave souls want to give us future applicant a ray of hope? thanks!
 
Matched at: Didn't match
Degree (MD, PhD etc): MD
Med school: small state school with small rad onc dept
USMLE scores: 245/248, Step II in before rank list submission
Number of interviews: 8 offered (could only attend 6 due to conflicts) 2 top-tier, 2 mid-low tier, 2 low tier, ranked all 6, applied to ~45 programs
AOA: Junior
3rd year grades: Honors in all but medicine and neurology
Publications: 4 non-rad onc basic science manuscripts (third or fourth author), 3 non-rad onc basic science abstracts, 2 rad onc retrospective reviews in preparation for submission at time of interviews
Away rotation? 2 aways
Weaknesses of application: Not enough published Rad Onc research, small state school, no letters from BIG names in the field, poor network in Rad Onc community, and getting serious about Rad Onc too late in the application process
Impression: It seems to make a big difference in a small competetive field who you know and where you are coming from. Making connections and getting really strong letters from well-know people is important. Over and over again it seemed that strong rad onc research and time spent on advance degrees or a year off for research really paid off for other applicants I spoke with. It is a difficult field to match into with only good grades, boards scores, and non-rad onc related research. It takes a very rounded application with good rad onc research and experience. There are a lot of great applicants out there. Congrats to all. Hope to join you next year.
 
Username: jacobgscott
Matched at: Moffitt (outside the match offer in January)
Degree (MD, PhD etc): working on my MD (forty something days!)
matched at # on rank list: n/a
Med school: Case Western
USMLE scores: 224/235 (step2 in july of 4th year)
Number of interviews: i went on 10 i think, cancelled ones after I accepted spot (went to penn, stanford, ucla, case, mayo jax, moffitt, uf, cal-pacific, some others i can't remember now)
AOA: yes (didn't know until december)
Publications: one basic science ortho first author, one clinical rad onc first author (submitted only), one random essay i wrote in a medical journal, several other abstracts
Away rotation? did an away at Mayo jax (wife's family from there, great experience - however, i got a commendable) and at the NIH (I highly recommend this experience)
At place matched? no
Other things that helped with match: luck. i am AMAZED that i got a spot. meeting all the folks on the trail, i felt like i was at space camp or something, everyone is so stellar. now that i am seeing this thread, i am even more amazed. i have a background in nuclear engineering, which i think helped... but not as much as a background in cancer would have. i heard many times that board scores weren't everything, but i sure would have felt more confident with better ones...

good luck all, and for those i met on the trail, i look forward to seeing you all again some time.
 
Matched at: upper-middle tier program (typically referred to as top 20 here)
Degree (MD, PhD etc)--MD
matched at # on rank list--second choice
Med school--southern school with prominent RO dept
USMLE scores: step 1/step 2--260's on both, done with step 2 before ERAS
Number of interviews--about 15 offers, went on 10 with a good spread of programs. a few "top tier" programs (penn and Uwisc), a few middle tier, and a few lower tier (Baylor, Kaiser). I would recommend getting a mix of programs...dont set your aim only at top places, no matter how strong you are.
AOA--yes
Publications--I may be the only one here with NO pubs, but thats why Im posting. I have a few active projects that I was able to talk about on interviews. I hope they will be published, but as of now they are only submitted/pending.

This section is obviously crucial, as I was up against many people with PhDs and 10 RO pubs. I just sold myself as someone who didn't "discover" rad onc until late in the game, and therefore was unable to have any pubs in the field. (which is absolutely true).

Away rotation--yes, and I matched there
Other things that helped with match--Just be yourself. If you are like me and dont have strong research background, dont try to sell yourself as such. Bolster your application in other ways (ie, do well on steps and in rotations, especially aways). That being said, find a mentor and at least START on a project. You will need something meaningful to talk about on interviews. some of these interviewers are (unfortunately) so one-dimensional that they dont care about anything else other than your research.
 
Matched at: Mayo Clinic (Rochester)
Degree (MD, PhD etc): MD
matched at # on rank list: 3
Med school: U of Minnesota
USMLE scores: 279/280
#Programs applied to: 33, offered interviews at 23
Interviewed at: Stanford, Colorado, Mayo, MDACC, Duke, Wisconsin, WashU, UWashington, Cleveland Clinic, MSKCC, Minnesota, Florida.
Offered interview, declined/couldn't schedule: UChicago, Penn, Michigan, Beaumont, OHSU, Virginia, MCW, Wake Forest, Case Western, Iowa
AOA: Yes, junior
Publications: 1st/2nd author on 6 published clinical papers - 5 med onc and 1 stroke. 11 abstracts related to the above projects. 2 ongoing radonc projects, nothing published at interview time
Away rotation? 1 + research at WashU
Other things that helped with match: Long standing interest in oncology, LOR from well-known at away rotation, LOR from head of dept at home institution, very strong LOR from the med onc that I published papers with and had known very well for 6 years.
Other advice: As mentioned by others, radonc tends to be regional with strong applicants matching at strong programs in their region. If you want to match at one of the "big 3," especially outside of your region, it is almost necessary to do an away there. Obviously there are exceptions, but a vast majority of those that match there rotated there. They see so many strong applicants competing for so few spots and I think spending face time getting to know the attendings would go a really long way. That said, I am extremely happy to have matched at the program that I did. I was looking for a program with the strongest possible clinical training experience and opportunities for clinical research and I think that, behind MSKCC and MDACC, Mayo is the 3rd best program of those that I interviewed at. I would be happy to provide biased opinions (every opinion is biased, isn't it?) of any of the programs I interviewed at by PM. All are wonderful programs and I would have been happy to match at any of them.
 
Could we have more users post their information, whether matched or unmatched? The profiles here make me feel inadequate for applying this year.
 
this forum tends to be skewed towards the "higher end" candidates. Don't let it upset you.
 
Matched at: UMD
Degree (MD, PhD etc): MD
matched at # on rank list: 1
Med school: UMD
USMLE scores: 236/231
Number of interviews: 14 applied to ~35, went on 13 (Tufts, JHU, UMD, Georgetown, Case, UCinn, UIndiana, UTSW, UNC, MUSC, Emory, Rochester, UPitt)
AOA: yes, senior year
Publications: For rad onc ones, 2 submitted at the time of interview, 1 ASTRO poster, 1 second author review; others - multiple basic science research abstracts and papers (none first author).
Away rotation? Penn and JHU in addition to my home institution
At place matched? yes
Other things that helped with match: Obviously coming from a program with a home institution was extremely helpful. I also had teaching experience and a large basic science research background which I think at least at face value was helpful b/c a lot of programs want you to be interested in basic science research. Also, I was able to get a letter from one of the "big wigs" in radiation oncology.
Things that were not helpful: Just because you do an away rotation does not mean you will get an interview there even if they liked you.
 
Ok, I'll play - I tried to do this under Impressions, but the account is suspended. I'll have to use a little cloak of secrecy here due to my shameful board scores.

Username:iradi8u
Matched at:VCU
Degree (MD, PhD etc) MD
matched at # on rank list:1
Med school:small private, no radonc program
USMLE scores: step 1/step 2 <230, >250 (I'm a wimp)
Number of interviews: 9
AOA: (yes/no) yes
Publications: clinical/basic/none 2 clinical pubs in major radonc journals
Away rotation? At place matched? Did an away for research at one of THE top tier institutions and had an unbelievable mentor with fabulous LOR. Did a clinical rotation at my #1 choice, where I matched.
Other things that helped with match: First, my LOR was amazing from my mentor, a name anyone here would recognize. I didn't expect it -- so please ask for a LOR. You may be surprised at how highly they regard you! Second, my clinical away rotation was after this research experience - really helped to have been at such a prestigious institution & to have learned from some amazing docs before I tried to tackle a clinical rotation, especially since my school has no program. I had a presentation to do on my clinical & I put a lot of work into it - I think that helped.
 
Sorry it took me so long to post!

Matched at:top to upper middle-tier midwest program, couples matched (radiology)
Degree (MD, PhD etc) MD
matched at # on rank list:3
Med school:small private school (very low ranking med school), no radonc program
USMLE scores: step 1: 241 Step 2: 255 (I took step 2 before interviewing)
Number of interviews: I got 21 interviews, went on 18
AOA: (yes/no) no
Publications: clinical/basic/none 2 manuscript pubs, 1 in a major radonc journal, 1 abstract (first authour), 1 case report in the works.
Away rotation? At place matched? 2 aways, both at top tier institutions and obtained amazing LORs. Did 3 months of research in addition to completing a clinical rotation at one of these insitutions. I had an amazing mentor/mentors who really helped me through last year's process. Also my husband had amazing stats, and I don't think either of us inhibited one or the other from obtaining interviews. It definitely did not help to not have a home institution...I don't think there can be enough said about that....even if it is merely used to obtain an introduction to the field or make some contacts. I did not have that luxury, and I went to a school that not many had heard of, so that did not help. However, I am proof that even without a home program, you can definitely work hard and get into a great program....and that's exactly what I did. I went to 2 amazing programs and worked extremely hard...presented pt's during conferences and did extra clinical/ppt presentations towards the end of the month. I also applied widely (I had to when my husband was matching in a difficult field as well). Also, the residents at the institutions I went to were wonderful. They gave me helpful advice and made me look good in front of the attendings...I am so grateful for that!
 
I have played with the data in these postings and got the following averages for those who matched:

avg step1 245.26 (assuming the 229 for <230 person and 261 for >260 person).
avg step2 253.26 =(using same concept in step1).
avg interviews conducted per person =12.21. (using 10 for the person that was unsure)
those with AOA =.733 ( using 0 for non-aoa and 1 for aoa).
With home program= .733 (using same methods for aoa).
avg rank of match= 1.5 (only included those that posted this stat)
I hope this helps those out there who are frightened. Remember, this is only 14 of the total that matched. I posted this because after reading the post, it makes even the highly qualified applicant become weary of matching.
Like Willie said...and let mankind not bogart love.
 
I have played with the data in these postings and got the following averages for those who matched:

avg step1 245.26 (assuming the 229 for <230 person and 261 for >260 person).
avg step2 253.26 =(using same concept in step1).
avg interviews conducted per person =12.21. (using 10 for the person that was unsure)
those with AOA =.733 ( using 0 for non-aoa and 1 for aoa).
With home program= .733 (using same methods for aoa).
avg rank of match= 1.5 (only included those that posted this stat)
I hope this helps those out there who are frightened. Remember, this is only 14 of the total that matched. I posted this because after reading the post, it makes even the highly qualified applicant become weary of matching.
Like Willie said...and let mankind not bogart love.

I don't understand how this helps anyone. Your numbers are off and I would be more scared than comforted by the 245.26 average Step 1 score that you quote.
 
Mikedc,

what numbers did you get for the averages? It would be nice to check my work...I used excel and I'm not terribly proficient with the functions it offers.

This is how I thought it would help others.
After reading the posts from those that matched, one who lacks self confidence could become discouraged by all the outstanding step scores.(getting a false impression because it seems like only the med school superstars are the ones matching in this field). What my post was meant to illustrate was that the average person that posts their match info on this blog should not be considered average at all. According to the charting outcomes 2007 data for radiation oncology, the top 75 percentile made a 248 on step 1. so...this blog has been giving us a "decent" picture of what the top 75 percentile applicant is like. I say don't be worried because the 25th percentile has a 223.
let mankind not bogart love.
 
Username: Bronx Doc
Matched at: Albert Einstein/Montefiore
Degree : MD
# on rank list: Rank #1
Med school: Wayne State (Detroit, MI)
USMLE scores: 220/231
Number of interviews: 12 offered 9 attended
Clinical Grades: Honors in Psych, Int Medicine, ObGyn Sub I, and 3 Rad Onc electives
AOA: No
Publications: : 5+, One as first author on Brachytherapy. 4 others in Med school, more from undergrad.
Away rotation? Rotating at Einstein was critical. Any prospective RadOnc student should try and rotate as early as possible at their first choice program, and as many others as possible.
Other things that helped with match:This forum is loaded with Gunners and All-stars of which I am neither. But I was a good student and did some things that I believe set me apart. Everyone who applies has good board scores and grades, they are useless to help decide between applicants (esp at interview stage). Other things make you stand out, USMLE is just a number! So do not abandon hope all who enter here! Here are some major keys.

1. Lots of research in diverse Rad Onc subjects, get started early so by interview time you have lots to discuss. Have active papers and areas of study you want to continue into residency.

2. AWAY ROTATIONS where you want to go, when programs pick students they try and get the best candidates and minimize risk, if they get to know you and you impress them, you will get an interview (less risk involved if they know you).

3. The Regional Bias. Programs want to minimize risk and get candidates they believe will rank them high. So its hard to get interviews across the country. I recommend writing letters about why a city/state/institution is attractive to you, and you would move there in a heartbeat.

4. LORs are CRITICAL. RadOnc is such a small field that getting letters from a well known doctor is invaluable to matching. Maybe THE most important thing for getting an interview, this will get you in the door! at which point...

5. Once you get an interview you are on the same level with all of the other interviewees. I believe that everything else can be thrown out at this stage. So even if you are competing with Harvard MDPHDs with perfect scores, it becomes about more about fitting in with the faculty, your personality, and your answers..... Good Luck everyone!
 
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5. Once you get an interview you are on the same level with all of the other interviewees. I believe that everything else can be thrown out at this stage. So even if you are competing with Harvard MDPHDs with perfect scores, it becomes about more about fitting in with the faculty, your personality, and your answers..... Good Luck everyone!

I'll agree with that. Remember, many of these programs are relatively small, and you are going to be working with these people for 4 years. Chemistry is key.
 
Username: Bronx Doc
Matched at: Albert Einstein/Montefiore
Degree : MD
# on rank list: Rank #1
Med school: Wayne State (Detroit, MI)
USMLE scores: 220/231
Number of interviews: 12 offered 9 attended
Clinical Grades: Honors in Psych, Int Medicine, ObGyn Sub I, and 3 Rad Onc electives
AOA: No
Publications: : 5+, One as first author on Brachytherapy. 4 others in Med school, more from undergrad.
Away rotation? Rotating at Einstein was critical. Any prospective RadOnc student should try and rotate as early as possible at their first choice program, and as many others as possible.
Other things that helped with match:This forum is loaded with Gunners and All-stars of which I am neither. But I was a good student and did some things that I believe set me apart. Everyone who applies has good board scores and grades, they are useless to help decide between applicants (esp at interview stage). Other things make you stand out, USMLE is just a number! So do not abandon hope all who enter here! Here are some major keys.

1. Lots of research in diverse Rad Onc subjects, get started early so by interview time you have lots to discuss. Have active papers and areas of study you want to continue into residency.

2. AWAY ROTATIONS where you want to go, when programs pick students they try and get the best candidates and minimize risk, if they get to know you and you impress them, you will get an interview (less risk involved if they know you).

3. The Regional Bias. Programs want to minimize risk and get candidates they believe will rank them high. So its hard to get interviews across the country. I recommend writing letters about why a city/state/institution is attractive to you, and you would move there in a heartbeat.

4. LORs are CRITICAL. RadOnc is such a small field that getting letters from a well known doctor is invaluable to matching. Maybe THE most important thing for getting an interview, this will get you in the door! at which point...

5. Once you get an interview you are on the same level with all of the other interviewees. I believe that everything else can be thrown out at this stage. So even if you are competing with Harvard MDPHDs with perfect scores, it becomes about more about fitting in with the faculty, your personality, and your answers..... Good Luck everyone!

Did you just match at Albert Einstein? If so, please add yourself proudly to the thread " Who's who Radiation Oncology 2010"
 
Please use this thread to state where you matched. Consider posting your stats for reference of newbies next year. If you prefer, use the Impressions account (password impressions).

Proposed Format (feel free to add whatever you think might be relevant):

Username:
Matched at:
Degree (MD, PhD etc)
matched at # on rank list:
Med school:
USMLE scores: step 1/step 2
Number of interviews:
AOA: (yes/no)
Publications: clinical/basic/none
Away rotation? At place matched?
Other things that helped with match:

I hope and encourage those who parrticipated in this years match to carry on this tradition from the past few years, as the information is very helpful for those considering applying in next years match. Please tell us your"story"
 
Matched at: Top 5 program
Degree: MD
Matched at # on rank list: #1, amazingly. No really. I still can’t believe it.
Med school: Small NY program
USMLE scores: 226/224
#Programs applied to: 45, offered interviews at 16
Interviewed at: Cleveland Clinic, MDACC, Michigan, Rush, SUNY Downstate, NYU, Einstein/Monte, Jefferson, Rochester, UPenn, Columbia, Cornell
Offered interview, declined/couldn't schedule: Tufts, Wayne State, Allegheny, SUNY Upstate
AOA: Yes, senior
Publications: 1st author on 2 published palliative care papers, one 1st author rad onc paper in revision (during interview season) at Cancer
Away Rotations: MDACC, got a great letter and an interview out of the month – this is definitely an audition month, Einstein for the NYC experience (this program is awesome). I matched at a program where I did not do a rotation.
Other things that helped with match: A good “story” for my interest in the field despite finding it late. Year of clinical research through Doris Duke in pall care and rad onc. Very strong background in palliative care and interest in bridging the two fields. Finding a perfect personality fit with my program. Incredibly strong medicine letters concerning my clinical aptitude allowing me to play up my dedication to clinical practice in addition to academics
Things that did not help: I had almost no guidance from my med school or my home department. They take a very hands-off approach. I wish I had better guidance or a strong mentor in the field. SDN tried to take that place. So thank you.
Other advice:
1. The people I met on the interview trail were amazing. I am incredibly excited to be joining a field with so many interesting, dynamic people. I was originally terrified at the prospects of matching into radiation oncology with my “mediocre” board scores. While I’m sure that I got screened out at some programs because they were too low I think that the programs that take the time to read the whole application tend to discount them. They never came up at interview, but that’s because there was so much other stuff to talk about. I think you need to have one thing in your application that sets you apart… i.e. dedication to some particular aspect of oncology, or massive research, or some strange atypical background. Those are the things that get attention.

2. In terms of SDN, I developed an unhealthy addiction to this site and while it is useful for interview information and past impressions please take it all with many grains of salt. Places change rapidly, the environment of a particular program can vary from year to year with addition of faculty, the changing resident class, or simply the addition of more facilities. Also the people that inhabit this site are mostly superstars with absurd board scores. Look at the match statistics for comfort. You can be a radiation oncologist without 250’s.

3. Get to know the residents on the interviews and see what they think of the place, but remember almost none of them will still be there by the time you start so please don’t base your choice on who has the coolest or the nicest residents.

4. If there’s a place you absolutely want to go, rotate there. It is the only way you will get a real sense of how the department works. What you see on the interview day will never compare to spending time there working and getting the real feel of the program. This is abundantly clear when you interview at a place you rotated. VERY different experience.

5. Programs value different things (pedigree, PhDs, personality, research, etc). That’s ok. There’s a program out there for everyone. Most departments are small… you’ll probably interview with most of the attendings in the small/medium-sized departments. They’re looking for someone who has the right fit in terms of personality, approach to patient care, and academics. Don’t take it personally if you just aren’t the right fit for a place. In the long run you’ll be happier and more productive going to a program that you are a better fit in than trying to be that square peg in a round hole.
 
Matched at: Mayo Clinic Rochester

Degree: MD

matched at # on rank list: #1 🙂 So happy! but I would have been thrilled no matter where I matched - all my interviews were in awesome places.

Med school: MCW

USMLE scores: 235/237 - I took step 2 late and didn't really study - in retrospect I wish I would have taken it earlier and studied for it - maybe I would have gotten more interviews and had less stress.

Number of interviews: applied to 43, got 5 invites, but could only go on 4 interviews due to scheduling (yes I was panicked)

AOA: no

3rd year grades: honors in all but Ob/Gyn and Neuro (high passed)

Publications: none but have had years of clinical research experience as my job prior to med school as well as during med school. Now have poster at ARS next month and manuscript in the works. I also did physics research at my home institution that I'm still working on.

Away rotation? At place matched?: I did 2 - one at the place I matched - I'm pretty sure that's the only reason I got an interview there. I can't suggest strongly enough to do this. I took a vacation month to do an extra away since my school only allows 2 credits per department. Well worth it. .

Other things that helped with match:
I am way better clinically than publication-wise or score-wise. Because of that, I decided to do two away rotations at the places that I most wanted to go. Not only did it show them that I'm a competent clinician and fun to work with, I was able to see how the department was run and see if I fit in.
I also did a research project while at my top choice school and returned after I was done for a day to finish it up - this is awesome if you can do it. Always ask the residents if you can take on a project you can complete in a month if you'd like to go there. Chances are there's something you can do no only will they love you for the initiative, but you get to know a faculty very well and therefore have someone in your corner. And if you're like me, living in a hotel for a month, you've got nothing better to do.
I full on expected not to match this year since I didn't think I interviewed at enough places. I was thrilled to have matched in general, and then even happier to get my number 1 choice. I came into the game pretty late - only a year prior to match. I was going to be a breast surgeon and just took rad onc since I knew it was an important component in breast cancer tx and I knew nothing about it. The reason I say this is that it's never too late and even if you aren't the most stellar student with loads of papers, you can still do what you want if you have passion and commitment. Remember that these people have to work with you for 4 or 5 years and they have to know they'll get along well with you. Smarts are important, too, but most places would take someone who studies hard and is great to work with over someone who knows all the answers already and sucks to be around.

Good luck to those applying next year!! :luck:
 
Matched at: Top 5 program (arguably?)
Degree: MD
matched at # on rank list: #2 (couples matched)
Med school: Mid-sized NYC program
USMLE scores: step 1/step 2: 258/251 (got step II scores after the match)
Number of interviews: 15
Programs interviewed at: Michigan, Wash U, Fox Chase, UMDNJ, Jefferson, Cornell, Columbia, Einstein/Montefiore, Pitt, UNC, Case Western, Miami, Indiana, UVA
Programs declined: Rush
AOA:No
Grades: Honors in surgery, OB/Gyn, peds, HP in others, HP in one rad onc rotation (NYU, apparently the PD's an unrealistically tough grader, fair warning), never received grades from my other 2 rad onc rotations
Publications: 1st author clinical in JNMA (breast cancer), 5th author basic in Virology, ~8 abstracts (1st or 2nd authorships at ASTRO, ASTRO Translational, and ASCO)
Away rotation? At place matched? 3 aways, not at place matched

Other things that helped with match:
1. Year Off in Home Program: I took a year off to do radiation biology and clinical rad onc research at my home institution. This was exceedingly helpful for a number of reasons but by far the most being the chance to develop a strong relationship with several of the attendings at my home program. Of course for my place on their rank list it was helpful, but additionally in that several attendings were able to go to bat for me in both LORs and via phone calls. Like everyone has noted, Rad Onc is an incredibly small (and incestuous) field, and word of mouth goes a lot further than any grade or board score. Therefore, having attendings with connections in your corner is invaluable. Without taking a year off, not only would I not have had most of the abstracts and the publication I was able to put on my application, but certainly would not have had the personal relationships that ended up being so beneficial.

2. Diverse cancer related research background: For me this was another very large factor. Not only did this give me a story to tell about my interest in rad onc, but also made it easy to relate to most of my interviewers about their own research. It was the most frequently asked about aspect of my application, and being able to talk in depth about a range of research related topics was critical in impressing interviewers. I also believe that having broad experience, across basic and clinical oncology topics, was strong evidence in support of my interest in translational research, which everyone likes to throw around as a buzz word but isn't necessarily something a lot of applicants can describe tangibly.

3. Away rotations: For the reasons cited above (i.e. getting to know a program, showing your interest), but most importantly for the LORs. Having all your LORs from a single program doesn't necessarily look great, and diversifying that aspect of your application will help appeal to a broader range of program directors.

4. Things that suck and you can't chance about the rad onc application process: For me, by far the largest frustration was that school brand name is paramount (much more so than having an MD/PhD, IMHO). While this is the case in any specialty, the size of Rad Onc programs and the few numbers of interviews granted at each makes swimming upstream from small pond that much more challenging. While you can make up for this in some ways, there are certain places that you just won't have a chance without a Ivy League-caliber med school pedigree (i.e. MSKCC). Sad, but true (as in most walks of life).

5. Finally, DON'T LET SDN SPOOK YOU. Yes, rad onc is a very hard match. Applicants are very qualified, with lots of in-field experience, so it is certainly self selected. However, if you put in your time, get some relevant research on your CV, and make some connections, you will match. Maybe not at your #1, but you'll match. SDN posts tend to be skewed toward the crazy gunner types, and of course these people will have more intimidating resumes than those interviewing at places other than the top 12 programs in the country. Just try to stay sane and you'll be fine.
 
Please tell us your "stories", as the information is quite helpul to those of us preparing for the 2010 match. thanks so much!
 
Matched at: Top 5 program
Degree (MD, PhD etc): MD
matched at # on rank list: 1
Med school: Private, mid/upper tier
USMLE scores: step 1/step 2: 232/246
Grades: honors in all clinical rotations, mostly honors in pre-clinical courses
Number of interviews: applied to 30, got interviews at 24, went on 15
AOA: (yes/no) yes
Publications: all basic and oncology or rad onc related – 5 published (2, 1st author) at time of application submission and 2, 1st author in progress during application process, several abstracts including at ASTRO
Away rotation? At place matched? Yes, where matched (would strongly recommend rotating at a place you are interested in. I don’t believe the theory that you shouldn’t rotate at your top program for risk of them not liking you)
Other things that helped with match: Strong research background (including 1 additional yr during med school), and all of my research had been onc related (even before med school), so it was helpful to demonstrate my commitment to the field. Having good mentors in the field is huge! My mentors were phenomenal and really helpful throughout this stressful process (and of course critical for LORs). Last year at this time I would have never thought it possible to match at my #1 but it certainly can be done even if you’re not MD/PhD or don’t have 260 board scores or don’t go to a school with a home program (mine doesn't, but without a home program you do have to work a bit harder I think!). I wouldn’t recommend more than 2 aways…it’s really not necessary.
Good luck!!
 
Matched at: Top Tier
Degree: MD
Matched at # on rank list: #2.
Med school: State School with no Rad Onc Program
USMLE scores: 250/275; Step 2 received in Dec- Carried to Interviews
#Programs applied to: Applied to 45, offered at 25; Interviewed at 16
Interviewed at: Cleveland Clinic, MDACC, Loyola, Northwestern, Florida, Emory, Maryland, Hopkins, Wisconsin, UPenn, Utah, Colorado, Oregon, Mayo Jax, Mayo, Wake
AOA: Yes, junior
Publications: 5th author on Cards paper, 1st on Cards poster, two 1st author rad onc paper in revision (during interview season)
Away Rotations: 1)MDACC. Also used the rotation to work on research for 6 weeks. Priceless. 2 Southern Programs. Matched at a program where I did not do a rotation.
Other things that helped with match: I thought I would post because I am a little different. Although I had strong grades, I lacked a home program and possessed very little research prior to 4th year. I spent 3 months on the road doing aways, and although most suggest not doing 3 aways, it worked out well for me. I really don't think it was necessary other than obtaining 3 great letters. Also, 2 publications from 2 different schools since I couldn't get rad onc research at home. Set both projects up in the months preceding my arrival at programs.
Other advice: Networking is critical in such a small field. I became friends with both attendings and residents (and always residency coordinators) because this field really is all about who you know.
 
Matched at: Top Tier
Degree: MD
Matched at # on rank list: #1.
Med school: State program with top tier rad onc program
USMLE scores: 223 (no laughs please) / 243 before interview season obviously
#Programs applied to: Applied to 45ish, offered at 22; Interviewed at 13 (everything seemed to be on the same day, you know!)
Interviewed at: Cleveland Clinic, Wisconsin, Utah, MCW, Mayo Jax, Arizona, Minnesota, Michigan, Iowa, Rochester, City of Hope, Kentucky, Ohio St.
AOA: nada
Publications: 1 1st authored manuscript from undergrad (nothing to do with medicine at all), 2 first authored basic science oncology focused work in low impact factor journals, 2 first author review articles in middle impact factor journals on rad onc topics, several abstracts including ASTRO, and a some research awards from my med school and some conferences I've attended.
Away Rotations: 1) MCW
Other things that helped with match: Although my boards were, well, less than satisfactory and my grades good, but no quite AOA, I had some good research work - both oncology and rad onc, that I think helped quite a bit with my application. I tried to show in my home clinical rotation and away rotation that although I'm not a 250 step oner who is AOA, I can still work just as hard and produce similar results. I also focused a lot on my research work during med school which led to some good learning experiences and tried to incorperate that into my clinical experiences. This research also gave me a ton to talk about during interview season. Another thing that goes over well, that I haven't seen mentioned on here too much, is volunteer work. I've made sure to do at least one volunteer activity a year, something big, that stands out on a CV. If you have something unique, it something great to talk about during the interview, and shows you are capable of having a life outside of medicine.
Other advice: Get to know residents and attendings well! You never know who will go to bat for you when that rank list is made! Also, just have fun. If you try to have a good time, you learn more, and you can really get to know a program, they can get to know you, and that may move you on up the rank list! Just my two cents!
 
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