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I know what I want to find out, I'm just spinning in circles trying to find it.

I want to look at all of the DO schools, and generate a list of where and how many of their students land OB-GYN residencies. Then, I'd like to mull over those hospitals and study their patient outcomes, census, and a few other things that interest me.

I intent, is to help zero in on OB-GYN residencies that "I" would find highly desirable, and back out into identifying a list of DO schools that give me the greatest potential of ending up there. ...it would also be a potential way to eliminate a few schools too. (*is this even a thing? Is there such a thing as a feeder college?)

What I have been doing- is searching match lists, which are less easy to find than I expect that they should be. This (obviously) is a sllllooooowwwww process. From those lists, I'm noticing few trends. For example, a school with 3 OB-GYN matches all went to 3 different hospitals. So, I think I'm off track with that.

Then, I started with the hospital. Many hospitals have residency pages with bios of their residents. This has been helpful too, but there are few thousand to check, and I'm guessing there has to be a list.

I'm scratching my head. Tips?
 
I know what I want to find out, I'm just spinning in circles trying to find it.

I want to look at all of the DO schools, and generate a list of where and how many of their students land OB-GYN residencies. Then, I'd like to mull over those hospitals and study their patient outcomes, census, and a few other things that interest me.

I intent, is to help zero in on OB-GYN residencies that "I" would find highly desirable, and back out into identifying a list of DO schools that give me the greatest potential of ending up there. ...it would also be a potential way to eliminate a few schools too. (*is this even a thing? Is there such a thing as a feeder college?)

What I have been doing- is searching match lists, which are less easy to find than I expect that they should be. This (obviously) is a sllllooooowwwww process. From those lists, I'm noticing few trends. For example, a school with 3 OB-GYN matches all went to 3 different hospitals. So, I think I'm off track with that.

Then, I started with the hospital. Many hospitals have residency pages with bios of their residents. This has been helpful too, but there are few thousand to check, and I'm guessing there has to be a list.

I'm scratching my head. Tips?

It's my understanding that how well you perform on the boards and in your clerkships that dictates your residency placement. Where you go to school is less significant. The school choice is important, though, in terms of where you will be doing your clerkships. Below are search engines and databases for residencies. Hope this helps.

http://www.opportunities.osteopathi...essionid=f03020f1113b0834fee710a364ae241c474c

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/education-careers/graduate-medical-education/freida-online.shtml
 
It's my understanding that how well you perform on the boards and in your clerkships that dictates your residency placement. Where you go to school is less significant. The school choice is important, though, in terms of where you will be doing your clerkships. Below are search engines and databases for residencies. Hope this helps.

http://www.opportunities.osteopathi...essionid=f03020f1113b0834fee710a364ae241c474c

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/education-careers/graduate-medical-education/freida-online.shtml


Thank you VERY VERY much for those links!
 
It is also VERY important to realize a few other things:

1. "how many of their students land OBGYN residencies" depends in no small manner on how many of their students WANTED TO LAND obgyn residencies. If you have a class where everyone hated obgyn then the answer to your question would be ZERO.

2. regarding where these doctors go for residency, that is also 100% dependent on where they WANTED to be and where they applied. If you have someone from California who got into med school in New York and found they hated it there and wanted to go back west, then they're going to have an ENTIRELY different rank list than someone who was born and raised in New York and only applied to New York residencies.

3. You should also understand that this past year ObGyn was VERY competitive. Unusually so.

4. You could be a student from freakin' Mayo but if you fail your boards, have failed a few classes, and are a total jerk, you're not going to "land" a residency anywhere. Where you go for residency depends HUGELY on you. Your board scores, your rotations, your grades, your application, your LORs, your interview. These are FAR more important than where you went to school.

5. Over 80% of all pre-meds change their minds about what they want to do. (oh, I can hear it already -- "NOT ME!! I'm *SURE*!!!!!!!" Yeah. The other 80% of students were too.) Even the president of our ObGyn club who worked as a mid-wife before med school got to her ObGyn rotation and found she absolutely HATED ObGyn as a physician. Who knew. 🙄 Yeah, she was sure too before med school.

6. Choose a med school based on how well it prepares its students for residency. How well do they do on the boards? Do they tend to get their first or second choice of residency? How many of them have to repeat classes? Does the learning style (mandatory class attendance, no food/drink, video classes, etc) fit your style? Do students actually get to DO anything on rotations or are they merely observers? And HOW MUCH DOES THE SCHOOL COST? This one is important. Really.

I hope I've given you things to think about. Although I'm afraid you will get part way down and stop reading thinking "that stupid resident has no idea what she's talking about. I'M SURE WHAT I WANT TO DO. I'm not LIKE everyone else. I'm NEVER changing my mind." Uh-huh. I'm sure you do and I'm sure you aren't and I'm sure you won't. Good luck.

But I hope you do get to the bottom of this post and think about the things I've written. They are brief, but come from experience. I would really hate for you to trap yourself into a specialty you find you don't like later. Keep an open mind and choose on broad categories. Work hard and you will find yourself with options later. Good luck to you.
 
It is also VERY important to realize a few other things:

1. "how many of their students land OBGYN residencies" depends in no small manner on how many of their students WANTED TO LAND obgyn residencies. If you have a class where everyone hated obgyn then the answer to your question would be ZERO.

2. regarding where these doctors go for residency, that is also 100% dependent on where they WANTED to be and where they applied. If you have someone from California who got into med school in New York and found they hated it there and wanted to go back west, then they're going to have an ENTIRELY different rank list than someone who was born and raised in New York and only applied to New York residencies.

3. You should also understand that this past year ObGyn was VERY competitive. Unusually so.

4. You could be a student from freakin' Mayo but if you fail your boards, have failed a few classes, and are a total jerk, you're not going to "land" a residency anywhere. Where you go for residency depends HUGELY on you. Your board scores, your rotations, your grades, your application, your LORs, your interview. These are FAR more important than where you went to school.

5. Over 80% of all pre-meds change their minds about what they want to do. (oh, I can hear it already -- "NOT ME!! I'm *SURE*!!!!!!!" Yeah. The other 80% of students were too.) Even the president of our ObGyn club who worked as a mid-wife before med school got to her ObGyn rotation and found she absolutely HATED ObGyn as a physician. Who knew. 🙄 Yeah, she was sure too before med school.

6. Choose a med school based on how well it prepares its students for residency. How well do they do on the boards? Do they tend to get their first or second choice of residency? How many of them have to repeat classes? Does the learning style (mandatory class attendance, no food/drink, video classes, etc) fit your style? Do students actually get to DO anything on rotations or are they merely observers? And HOW MUCH DOES THE SCHOOL COST? This one is important. Really.

I hope I've given you things to think about. Although I'm afraid you will get part way down and stop reading thinking "that stupid resident has no idea what she's talking about. I'M SURE WHAT I WANT TO DO. I'm not LIKE everyone else. I'm NEVER changing my mind." Uh-huh. I'm sure you do and I'm sure you aren't and I'm sure you won't. Good luck.

But I hope you do get to the bottom of this post and think about the things I've written. They are brief, but come from experience. I would really hate for you to trap yourself into a specialty you find you don't like later. Keep an open mind and choose on broad categories. Work hard and you will find yourself with options later. Good luck to you.


Shy,
Thank you! No, I certainly don't think "that stupid resident has no idea what she's talking about." Just the opposite, and I'm thankful you took the time to reply so thoroughly. I'm still figuring out how things work- I don't even know what I don't know. That's why I'm here. I have a lot of time to sort through these threads and wrap my brain around how things work, so that (hopefully) when the time comes, I can focus on more important things.

1 & 2. Yes of course.

3. That's really interesting. Everything I am reading is how "no one" wants to go into OBGYN anymore. Too litigious, blah blah. For the sake of the patient, I'm glad it isn't everyone's plan B, C, D.....

4. I worry about this. Like everyone else here, I'm used to getting good grades, and I worry that I'll be in for a rude awakening!

5. You're right. I have an open mind, really I do. I know that I'll become exposed to everything, and right now, 100% of what I know is as a consumer. I'm a career changer. I've been a chef for 22 years, and the perception people have of the field is VERY different from the reality. ESPECIALLY since the Food Network :laugh: I've been an adjunct in our local culinary program for most of my career, and ALL of my students on day 1 have an idea of what they want to do- but its based on what they experienced as a consumer....not what they like or are skilled at as a a cook. It SOUNDS really awesome to work as a (fill in the blank) but the reality always different. What the general public views as "glamorous" is completely skewed, mainly because they have no idea how/what/where technical excellence is required. "oooooo cruise ship chef...." *bottom of the barrel btw. I could go on.
So, really, I'm open. I'm not married to my idea of obstetrics. However, I've also been drawn to that field for a long time, so for me (now) it's really where I'm headed. I'm also very interested in many things, and am excited to be exposed to areas that I have no exposure to at all.

6. This is good. What I didn't understand, was if there were a lot of "feeder schools." It appears as if that's not the case at all, which actually will make my inquiry much more manageable. 😀
 
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