Should college professors be called doctor then their name or professors?

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Should a professor with a phd or doctorate degree be called a doctor or not?

  • Yes

    Votes: 79 82.3%
  • No

    Votes: 17 17.7%

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I think it's ridiculous sometimes that i have to refer to some professors as Dr. X when they probably never dealt with a patient their entire life. I understand alot went through aton of years to get their phd's, etc but i think someone should have a doctor in front of their name if patient care is involved and they hold a doctorate degree. Pharmacist, dentists, etc do deal with patient care so i think it's fine to call them that but not necessarily professors who mostly read off slides, etc.

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All physicians are doctors, but not all doctors are physicians.
 
The science that general medical doctors deal with is geared towards utility.
The science that professors "that read off slides" deal with is geared towards philosophy.

I think they all deserve to be called Doctors.
 
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I am so annoyed when students call those educators...doctors. I've made an conscious effort to call all my educators...professors. I greatly respect educators but I don't want to dilute the "doctor" status of life savers.
 
Since when did "Dr." become the exclusive domain of the health care profession? That's kind of an assumption I've always looked down upon as a colloquialism.

I think we should follow Germany's lead... Dr. is only reserved for those who complete a dissertation. I forget what you are called if you only hold an MD.
 
In an academic setting, I think the answer is obvious.

Yea. I think professor is sth higher than a doctor. After you get a PhD degree = doctor (8-10 years study), then you have to work out a lot like postdoc to get assistant professor, then professor.
 
Well, I think theres a big difference between instructors (who are solely dedicated to teaching) and professors (who in conjunction to teaching, run a research lab)

Professors, in whatever field, have a degree in philosophy, which encompasses critical thought. To study philosophy is to study the art and science of THINKING, which is generally applicable to practically anything that matters... In the sciences, these researchers practice the art of science in order to come up with breakthroughs that we see in medicine...like cancer research.

During the roman, greek, and islamic eras, medical doctors that made major breakthroughs of their time were often trained in philosophy (the study why are things the way that they are?). As time went on, we seemed to shy away from integrating the two fields...mostly because of attitudes such as the ones on this thread...and religion.


I am so annoyed when students call those educators...doctors. I've made an conscious effort to call all my educators...professors. I greatly respect educators but I don't want to dilute the "doctor" status of life savers.


so...a life saver? by your definition of a doctor, should an EMT be held at same pedestal as a medical doctor?
 
To the OP, do have any idea what it takes to get a PhD? It requires A LOT of work, much more than it takes to get through a professional "doctorate" program like MD, PharmD, OD, DVM, DO, JD (juris doctor held by lawyers, do lawyers save lives?), etc. Besides, the word doctor actually used to mean teacher and not life saver. What about nurses, do they save lives and should they be called doctors? Or pharmacists that have their bachelor's in pharmacy before the PharmD became a requirement?
 
Uh...the only time I call a professor "professor so and so" is when they do not actually have a PhD; for example, maybe they only have an M.A. or something. I don't know, maybe I have spent too much time in the academic world, but it is standard practice to refer to a PhD holder as Dr. unless you are coworkers or something like that. I don't view "Dr." as a clinical title at all...rather it refers to the level of education that person has obtained.

If people have such a beef with it, why don't we refer to M.D.s as Physician Smith instead of Dr. Smith? Why do M.D.s/D.D.S.s automatically own the title?
 
I generally call them Dr. if they have their PhD, Professor if they do not. In some of our English classes we have graduate students teaching, so obviously they have not earned the title of Dr. just yet.
 
I generally call them Dr. if they have their PhD, Professor if they do not.

I agree that this is the way to go. Even if they don't have a PhD, if they are qualified to teach at the university level I imagine they probably merit something more than Mr./Ms.
 
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I just always call them whatever everybody else is callin' em.

If they are a good teacher it wouldn't bother me to call them emperor whosit of the organic chemistry class.

some people get all hung up on the stupidest things.

That being said there is a certain financial aide person I know that insists everybody call her Dr. two big long names joined with a hyphen.

That annoys me but it's not because of the dr. stuff (she has the degree or whatever for it) .. it's just sort of silly to have to go through all of that crap just to say "hi".
 
I think the whole idea of using "doctor" means an expert such as an MD is an expert in medicine, pharmacist is called a doctor bc they are an expert in drugs, some professors are expert in their field.

One piece of advice would be to always refer to professors especially those in pharmacy school (since most here are or will be there) as Dr. X whether it be in person, email, telephone, etc bc it can strongly add to your reputation and means you are showing them respect. Personally i would prefer calling them a professor but u go with the flow sometimes.
 
PhD=Doctor of Philosophy; Doctorate=Doctor so yes ...
 
Dr. if they are a Dr.

If they are not (have a BS or MS) - Call them Professor.

Agreed. My sociology prof's PhD thesis was from Buffy The Vampire Slayer (TV edition). Not exactly life-saving material, but she had a PhD and she was really smart. Not to mention we had awesome class discussions!
 
"Doctor (gen.: doctoris) means teacher in Latin. The word is originally an agentive noun of the verb docēre ('teach').[1] It has been used continuously as an honored academic title for over a millennium in Europe, where it dates back to the rise of the university."

Yes, it's absolutely ridiculous to call these people doctor when they've had the title for a thousand years.

I think this thought is the product of television programs that glorify the medical profession. If more shows had PhDs, people would think differently.
 
I'd like to be Chancellor Most High confettiflyer, screw this Dr. crap.
 
I think it's ridiculous sometimes that i have to refer to some professors as Dr. X when they probably never dealt with a patient their entire life. I understand alot went through aton of years to get their phd's, etc but i think someone should have a doctor in front of their name if patient care is involved and they hold a doctorate degree. Pharmacist, dentists, etc do deal with patient care so i think it's fine to call them that but not necessarily professors who mostly read off slides, etc.
hey your ignorance is so palpable. i cant believe you got accepted to pharmacy school and you want to equate the "Dr" title to saving lives. I guess you dont even have a clue as to how PHD is attained. nurses and even paramedics are not doctors but in some cases they save more lives than SOME pharmacist working at walgreens and other research centers. RESPECT other peoples titles if you want ......
 
Yeah whoever thinks "Dr." = exclusively reserved for people who deal with pt's is freakin' ******ed. :laugh:
 
Doctor..... doctor.... doctor.... you are all probably too young to remember this.

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I'd say yes, seeing how the true meaning of Doctor is applied to the PhD.

MD doctors are not "doctors"...they are physicians.
 
Yes I think they should be called doctor if they have earned their doctorate. Like some of the other above mentioned.
 
The science that general medical doctors deal with is geared towards utility.
The science that professors "that read off slides" deal with is geared towards philosophy.

I think they all deserve to be called Doctors.

Agreed!
 
Med school and pharmacy school are quite easy compared to a lot of PhD programs.

You are absolutely right. We have our hands held and are told what to do and study. In true graduate programs (because Pharmacy school is not a true grad school) there are all these processes you must adhere to in order to obtain the PhD. it's not straight forward at all. Have you ever tried to write for a grant? Granted, graduate school is not the HARDEST thing to do, but in essence of education and direction pharmacy students, medical students, dental students etc have it easier because their lives are mapped out. There is no fighting to defend your thesis in professional schools or meeting with a committee every few months to be told that your project stinks and you should try it there way (and if you don't know how to kiss up you had better learn it). It just all depends!

And the funny part about it is that med students and pharmacy students look down on graduate students sometimes, simply because they think they are all "rejects" or "denial students" (there are more adjectives I have heard but I can't think of them right now) but every time a pharmacy student comes in our lab to check his or her grade I get a nice comical story from the grad students about how that pharmacy student has failed at life. In essence I get the "Pharmacy Students are stupid!" speech. It irks me to hear this, but then again it irks me to hear some of the stories. Pharmacy students are not stupid, most of them are just too uneducated in life, common courtesy and structure and are too busy making posts like this to prove whatever insignificant point they want to, instead of looking at the big picture sometimes... hint hint, nudge nudge, wink wink.... It's called humility and maturity and it seems to have been tossed out the window along with morality. If you don't want to refer to anyone but your physician as doctor then fine, do as you please, just know that your physics professor is probably more of a doctor than your "doctor"...
 
I think it's ridiculous sometimes that i have to refer to some professors as Dr. X when they probably never dealt with a patient their entire life. I understand alot went through aton of years to get their phd's, etc but i think someone should have a doctor in front of their name if patient care is involved and they hold a doctorate degree. Pharmacist, dentists, etc do deal with patient care so i think it's fine to call them that but not necessarily professors who mostly read off slides, etc.

Dont be a tool

Dont start this... countless threads have debated this topic

The term "doctor" comes from the Latin word for "teacher" . "Doctor" hasnt got anything to do with patient care. Nowadays, by convention it has to do with level of education.

Any degree with "D" in the abbreviation - PhD, MD, EdD, AuD, DPT, PsyD, JD, even PharmD, are doctorates...

This also has to do with culture. Depending on where you go to school, you might call your prof. "Dr Soandso" because, to earn the title of "Professor" one might have to have achieved more than 15 years of teaching experience, and N-number of publications. So calling them "Professor" might be like calling an army grunt "General".
In some schools, you'd call them Professor regardless of what degree or expereince they have.

FWIW, in England, you would call a surgoen "Mr. Soandso"

The titles of Professor, Doctor, and even Mister mean different things in different settings. So dont go there.
 
You are absolutely right. We have our hands held and are told what to do and study. In true graduate programs (because Pharmacy school is not a true grad school) there are all these processes you must adhere to in order to obtain the PhD. it's not straight forward at all. Have you ever tried to write for a grant? Granted, graduate school is not the HARDEST thing to do, but in essence of education and direction pharmacy students, medical students, dental students etc have it easier because their lives are mapped out. There is no fighting to defend your thesis in professional schools or meeting with a committee every few months to be told that your project stinks and you should try it there way (and if you don't know how to kiss up you had better learn it). It just all depends!

And the funny part about it is that med students and pharmacy students look down on graduate students sometimes, simply because they think they are all "rejects" or "denial students" (there are more adjectives I have heard but I can't think of them right now) but every time a pharmacy student comes in our lab to check his or her grade I get a nice comical story from the grad students about how that pharmacy student has failed at life. In essence I get the "Pharmacy Students are stupid!" speech. It irks me to hear this, but then again it irks me to hear some of the stories. Pharmacy students are not stupid, most of them are just too uneducated in life, common courtesy and structure and are too busy making posts like this to prove whatever insignificant point they want to, instead of looking at the big picture sometimes... hint hint, nudge nudge, wink wink.... It's called humility and maturity and it seems to have been tossed out the window along with morality. If you don't want to refer to anyone but your physician as doctor then fine, do as you please, just know that your physics professor is probably more of a doctor than your "doctor"...


Wasn't it you a while ago posting that pharmacy school is not a true GRADUATE program because it didn't require a bachelors degree to begin?
 
Wasn't it you a while ago posting that pharmacy school is not a true GRADUATE program because it didn't require a bachelors degree to begin?

Yeah, it isn't a grad school at all, but some people still insist on calling it that. (Why? I will never know) So I emphasize those who swear on their life that it's a "grad school" that it's not a "true grad school". I still stand by what I say. It's not a graduate school, never has been, and probably will never be.
 
Yeah, it isn't a grad school at all, but some people still insist on calling it that. (Why? I will never know) So I emphasize those who swear on their life that it's a "grad school" that it's not a "true grad school". I still stand by what I say. It's not a graduate school, never has been, and probably will never be.

So what about Ohio State, which requires a bachelors degree prior to matriculation?
 
Again with the splitting of hairs.

A graduate degree does not necessarily have to follow a bachelors degree.

A graduate degree is defined by the number of required credits, the level of the courses, other requirements such as thesis, research, internship... etc etc.

What you guys are arguing about is similar to "What's better for a Bachelors degree? A College or a University?" Well, to be deemed a university, among other things, some requirements are that there are more than N-number of different degree programs, and at least a certain number of books in the library. Neither of which apply to you and your one major... so.
If you knew what was really involved in the distinction, you wouldnt be arguing about it.
 
Again with the splitting of hairs.

A graduate degree does not necessarily have to follow a bachelors degree.

A graduate degree is defined by the number of required credits, the level of the courses, other requirements such as thesis, research, internship... etc etc.

What you guys are arguing about is similar to "What's better for a Bachelors degree? A College or a University?" Well, to be deemed a university, among other things, some requirements are that there are more than N-number of different degree programs, and at least a certain number of books in the library. Neither of which apply to you and your one major... so.
If you knew what was really involved in the distinction, you wouldnt be arguing about it.

THANK YOU!:laugh:😍 there is so much more to it than "you need a bachelors"
 
Hey, I'm just going off of your original argument. You said that for a grad program to be a true grad program, you needed a bachelor's degree first. :Shrug:

And I also said there were other components like proposing and defending a thesis etc.
 
I think it's ridiculous sometimes that i have to refer to some professors as Dr. X when they probably never dealt with a patient their entire life. I understand alot went through aton of years to get their phd's, etc but i think someone should have a doctor in front of their name if patient care is involved and they hold a doctorate degree. Pharmacist, dentists, etc do deal with patient care so i think it's fine to call them that but not necessarily professors who mostly read off slides, etc.

Wait a minute... I got a BA in English before I decided on pharmacy. All of my professors had doctorates, but I'm 100% sure they've never dealt with patients. Are you saying I didn't have to call them doctors?
 
Doctor..... doctor.... doctor.... you are all probably too young to remember this.

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I may be too young, but I do know what you're talking about...
 
I think it's ridiculous sometimes that i have to refer to some professors as Dr. X when they probably never dealt with a patient their entire life. I understand alot went through aton of years to get their phd's, etc but i think someone should have a doctor in front of their name if patient care is involved and they hold a doctorate degree. Pharmacist, dentists, etc do deal with patient care so i think it's fine to call them that but not necessarily professors who mostly read off slides, etc.

As someone who will be getting my PhD in molecular biology in August after six years of work... you better believe I'll expect to be called Doctor in certain situations. On the same note, I do refer to other researchers as Doctor on occasion, whether they have their MD or PhD.

As others have said, grad school is not a walk in the park and in some ways is more difficult than pharmacy school. You're expected to be independent in a lot of days from day 1. Your graduation date is uncertain. It is true that pharmacy school has its own difficulties. There's a lot more memorization of minute details, for example.

Still, if you call an MD, an OD, and a DDS a doctor, you should call a pharmacist and those with PhDs doctors. It's all training that is similar in its intensity, if not the material.
 
I think it's ridiculous sometimes that i have to refer to some professors as Dr. X when they probably never dealt with a patient their entire life. I understand alot went through aton of years to get their phd's, etc but i think someone should have a doctor in front of their name if patient care is involved and they hold a doctorate degree. Pharmacist, dentists, etc do deal with patient care so i think it's fine to call them that but not necessarily professors who mostly read off slides, etc.

Jeez, Are you kidding me??? You shouldn't call a University level instructor doctor? Do you even know what doctor means? It's someone who has earned a doctorate. Doctor does not mean someone who works with patients. Dr. is just a title of the degree you earned, not someone who works with PTs. This is almost laughable.

As to whether you call a University level instructor Dr. or Professor, I usually call them Professor if they are an actual Professor. A Professorship is an appointed position by the University and is very respectable. This contrasts with Lecturers who are not Professors. I call Lecturers 'Dr. so-and-so' and Professors (whether they are Assistant, Associate, full, Distinguished, Emeritus) 'Professor,' respectively.

You can be a doctor but not necessarily a Professor. Professorships are very limited and difficult to obtain.

All in all, if you are confused on what to call your instructor at the University level, call them doctor.
 
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I can't believe this topic even exists!

If your instructor earned a Ph.D., Pharm.D., M.D., D.O., or whatever, they DESERVE to be called "Doctor" as a prefix in the course of conversation or class. If your instructor requests to be called something else, then by all means, do as they ask, but the default mode should be on for "Doctor Doe."

If you don't KNOW whether your instructor has a doctorate, ask! (Or research independently online if you're shy).They won't bite, and it pays to visit every single one of your instructor's office hours anyway! Even one visit can inscribe your face into their mind and that may very well play into your favor toward the end of the term (If you're a good boy or girl, anyway). A famous sociologist once said that the only way you can truly remember someone is if you remember something about them, that is to say, get to know them on a slightly more deep basis than the passing acquiantance of student-professor. This served me, and many of my colleagues and friends, very, very well.

Ask any professor and they'll tell you - Not enough students visit their office hours. So, go and ask! They'll love ya' for it. And, besides, all of my professors throughout UG had their full title on the syllabus.

Just my 2 euro, but seriously, how can anyone justify not calling a Ph.D holder (example) anything BUT "Dr. So'n'So"?
 
if you are being interviewed by a professor for pharmacy school and you aren't sure, call them Doctor to be on the safe side. I once called my interviewers by their first name only. They were staring at me the whole interview like I was rude or something. I got rejected. 🙁
 
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