Soccer WW - Match thread!

[Navilly]

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good grief. I would swear that I was #2 on BigCats vote. ??? of course, that is what happens when playing on my phone. Was not intending for it to be bandwagon...I hate d1 lynches, as they are normally a shot in the dark. The same for d2. At this point, short of somebody rojo'ing, there just is not that much information. Going off of "meta" is not that much of a tell, unless it is someone who has played a lot of games. Totally useless if they have only played 2 or 3. With that said, for those of you that have played a game with me, you will know that I pop in and out and don't say a whole bunch. I try to keep up with the thread...but heavens...it is tough.

There is a WEALTH of information. The difference is whether you would want to put the time in to find it all.

Or you know, if you already know the answers and going back to find the answers would simple be redundant 😉


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[Navilly]

[QUOTE="WolfieQUOTE]

Hi. You know what’s helpful. Rather than defeatism, try providing your own reads, providing evidence of a better direction to go.


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[Navilly]

FWIW when I wolfed with SAR she was very troll-like. I’m not sure I’m getting that vibe yet this game from her.

She’s more troll like when she is caught. She isn’t at the point of caught yet, but has caught the attention of both me and lupin; which you know what happens when I fixate on something...


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[cubsrule4e]

You’re either not a wolf or haven’t caught up on wolf chat. Coffee got NKd last night.

this was basically SOV all last game. The dojo hounds came before I could even tell him what he was or wasn’t being accused of and give some context for what and how he should role claim. 🙈

 

[Navilly]

Real talk for a second @Lupin21 - why won’t it let me quote any of wolfie’s posts? They are in the post when I go to edit them, but they won’t show up in the actual post?


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[Navilly]

Girl, I was BORN in the guilt trip. MOLDED by it. You can’t guilt trip a guilt tripper 😛

Deep within the fires of guiltopia, one woman was forged at the very core of the planet, in its molten core, which has allowed for a new level of guilt tripping unlike any guilt tripping seen prior.


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[Navilly]

You’re either not a wolf or haven’t caught up on wolf chat. Coffee got NKd last night.

I mean clearly thread is much more important to catch up on then my wolf convo, duh 😉.

(Yes this is a joke)


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[PippyPony]

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Real talk for a second {not lupes} - why won’t it let me quote any of wolfie’s posts? They are in the post when I go to edit them, but they won’t show up in the actual post?

Given your tagging skills, probably user error.

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[Navilly]

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Given your tagging skills, probably user error.

@Lupin21
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Aren’t you supposed to be too busy to play? 😉


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[Animal Midwife]

Real talk for a second @Lupin - why won’t it let me quote any of wolfie’s posts? They are in the post when I go to edit them, but they won’t show up in the actual post?

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everything quotes fine for me

get on my level

what I see missing from your posts are the trademark numbers (for direct link back quotes) and brackets (for pseudoquotes)
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[Navilly]

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everything quotes fine for me

what I see missing from your posts are the trademark numbers (for direct link back quotes) and brackets (for pseudoquotes)
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My issue is more that I did reply for all the posts that I addressed, but it’s only doing that with wolfie’s posts for whatever reason


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[Animal Midwife]

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My issue is more that I did reply for all the posts that I addressed, but it’s only doing that with wolfie’s posts for whatever reason

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[alissa14]

I want your interpretation of the evidence for killer, not just a couple of quoted posts.

I gave that already in my initial read. Killer’s gameplay is different than the noob game. They haven’t contributed anything useful to the thread. I don’t like the vibes I’m getting. I have to learn to trust my gut and not be swayed by others. That’s how BigCats and MrsDrDr eluded me in the noob game. While I like to see you posting Nav, are you able to provide a list of reads like I did? While your posts have made me lean more villager for now, I’d like to see a summary of your current reads.

 

[Navilly]

Village block (also earning awards for most likely to be converted)
Big cats
Sunbodi
Miz
Begrudgingly genny for the moment

Neutral
Cubs
MsP
Wondering
Lupin
Mutts
MPM

Wolfy
Mel/stagg (minor from a couple of comments from Mel in early game, but overall, here just because of my inherent skepticism and tunneling associated with either)
Killerleaf
Alisa
SAR

Reads without VCA, doing VCA now, will see how that modifies things.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

She’s more troll like when she is caught. She isn’t at the point of caught yet, but has caught the attention of both me and lupin; which you know what happens when I fixate on something...


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She was UBER troll in wolf chat last game we played and she was probably the most under the radar wolf.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

I mean clearly thread is much more important to catch up on then my wolf convo, duh 😉.

(Yes this is a joke)


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I had a really great meme in mind and now I can’t find it and I’m irritated.

 

[BigCats]

Is @Stagg737 going to be joining us today? It’s been a solid 24 hours since the sub.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

SAR hardcore lurks as a wolf. Like hardcore. I’m going to see if I can find some possible lurking here.

 

[Navilly]

Quoting to glance at later


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SAR and Killers votes most suspect. But MPM’s and Alissa’s non-votes are almost equally as suspect.

MsP’s vote is least village points for those on barks.


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[mizchiefmanaged]

@SARdoghandler give me a reason to believe that you’re not a wolf because my gut says you aren’t but I’m kinda ambivalent about the posts.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Is @Stagg737 going to be joining us today? It’s been a solid 24 hours since the sub.

I'm awaiting confirmation from @Melchizedek that he is going to be taking his place back. stay tuned.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Day 3 Cats like soccer too Lynch Tally

mutts (-)
wolfie (3) - BC, Cubs, miz
killer (2) - alissa, wolfie
cubs (-)
mpm (1) - sunbodi

6/16

Lynch close 7PM PST


lmk I prob missed something

 

[Navilly]

Let’s go with....


*****lynch sar********

Would’ve gone with Alissa, but SAR yields more info from VCA standpoint


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[ziggyandjazzy]

Effective immediately, replacing @Stagg737 who replaced Mel is again, @Melchizedek

 

[Melchizedek]

I only followed along for two pages after Stagg subbed in for me, so I will be catching up in the next couple hours.

Just wanted to say to the people who were wolf-reading stagg because he replaced me, c'mon, do better, thats a lazy read. I said in the sign ups that I was only playing to be a body on the roster and to expect very limited participation, Stagg subbing in for someone who reluctantly joined should be no reason to wolf read my slot.

 

[genny]

lynch mpm

 

[genny]

I only followed along for two pages after Stagg subbed in for me, so I will be catching up in the next couple hours.

Just wanted to say to the people who were wolf-reading stagg because he replaced me, c'mon, do better, thats a lazy read. I said in the sign ups that I was only playing to be a body on the roster and to expect very limited participation, Stagg subbing in for someone who reluctantly joined should be no reason to wolf read my slot.

this is so wolfy

 

[Animal Midwife]

Effective immediately, replacing @Stagg737 who replaced Mel is again, @Melchizedek

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[genny]

I’m going to see if I can find some possible lurking here.

Find anything? Or did you just decide to do some lurking of your own?

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

Find anything? Or did you just decide to do some lurking of your own?

I didn’t find anything actually. I looked to see if she was posting elsewhere and didnt see anything else beyond this thread so idk.

 

[Melchizedek]

I hate everything nav has said up through page 5. His analysis is superficial and he seems to be labelling a lot as sketchy just so he can keep his options open about where to vote. I don't like his play at all.

I find that Nav has very good rationale thus far and is really trying to help the village team. I am inclined to change my vote to follow his since he's more experienced and I don't want to lose my day ability early on (I can only break tie once)

Unlynch bark

Lynch SAR

These posts make me so uncomfortable and annoyed, mainly because you seem to have fallen for Nav's fake wolf-hunting as real.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

I hate everything nav has said up through page 5. His analysis is superficial and he seems to be labelling a lot as sketchy just so he can keep his options open about where to vote. I don't like his play at all.



These posts make me so uncomfortable and annoyed, mainly because you seem to have fallen for Nav's fake wolf-hunting as real.

I don’t really disagree with this. And that’s part of the reason I’m so annoyed I got offed N1. I tracked him (or rather tried tracking him)

 

[Melchizedek]

Wow. Congrats Sunbodi for actually finding a wolf literally D1! Good job

Its been done before.
Except when I do it, people always accuse me of idiot savanting it.

I started skimming after page like 6.

Nav's logic is off, and is very superficial with no consideration for multiple angles. It seems very different than usual, different enough for me to question if its forced.

Lynch Nav

 

[Melchizedek]

I'm not there yet. Too many people in the, 'I dunno' group.

I like the participation from the new players. You can tell that they are here and excited to play this game. I have no one solidly village yet, but baby village points to them.

Mild wolf points to whoever hopped on the SAR vote immediately after someone placed it. Sheeping is baaaaaaaahd. (I'm sorry lol)

But I think it was a noob, so I should probably let it go for now haha




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@mypetmoose you make this kind of "I don't know how to read noobs and think I should cut them some slack" statement a few times and then end up only talking about how the noobs are doing sketchy things, and then end up switching from SAR to a noob. I find this really weird. What are your reads? Why does it feel like you were just bopping along and hiding behind some fake wishy washiness yesterday?

 

[alissa14]

Kinda confused why Nav is reading me as wolfy but okay... I don’t think I’ve really done a lot to cause suspicion. I’ve already said that I was updating you yesterday on my schedule so you’d know I wouldn’t be as active as I try to usually be. I also wanted to not come across as “suspicious lurking” for trying to catch up on thread here and there during breaks and reacting to a few posts. As for not voting on barks, I just wasn’t seeing what everyone else was seeing. I didn’t want to waffle and take the chance to have Barks flip village and have people accuse me of being suspicious. I was most suspicious of Sunbodi at the time so that’s why I kept my lynch vote on them. With Sunbodi’s more recent posting, I have them more in my village leaning pile.

 

[genny]

Where is everyone today? We only have like half the players voting so far.

 

[Navilly]

Its been done before.
Except when I do it, people always accuse me of idiot savanting it.

I started skimming after page like 6.

Nav's logic is off, and is very superficial with no consideration for multiple angles. It seems very different than usual, different enough for me to question if its forced.

Lynch Nav

The question is, does your trend of reading me terribly continue, or preemptive defense based off the posts I was liking about you spewing wolf on your return.


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[ziggyandjazzy]

Day 3 Cats like soccer too Lynch Tally

mutts (-)
wolfie (3) - BC, Cubs, miz
killer (2) - alissa, wolfie
cubs (-)
mpm (2) - sunbodi, genny
SAR (1) - nav
nav (1) - mel

9/16

Lynch close 7PM PST


lmk I prob missed something

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

The fact that this is stagnant makes me think we might have something in the board today.

 

[Navilly]

The fact that this is stagnant makes me think we might have something in the board today.

My bet is at least one-two of the ones on the board are currently wolves.


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[deleted804295]

How many wolves are left? 3-4?

They're all in wolf chat together scheming so we'll have to pay attention to when many people vote at once. They're not stupid enough to all vote for one person but they may vote around the same time. After making this post some will get giddy to vote early.

 

[alissa14]

Spoiler: My Evidence/Reasoning

Went back over the thread again and looked for interactions with Barkley. Mypetmoose caught my eye. Time to put on my tinfoil hat (I think I’m using this term right). I’m calling these next couple reads snackgate

Unelect Mel

Elect mpm



because snacks 😛 but really because I feel like I can read her better than Mel or genny

Barkley (mod confirmed wolf) votes mpm ”because snacks.“ Voting for someone because snacks seems innocent enough to fly under the radar sure.

Elect mpm .. because snacks.

I’m also growing more suspicious of wolfie. Wolfie put herself forward during the noob game as mayor and won. She was a great mayor so I find it surprising that she didn’t put herself forward for mayor again. Perhaps to avoid investigations? She also voted for mpm for the same reason as Barkley (mod confirmed wolf) “because snacks.” As a former mayor I would hope you would have a better basis of reasoning for voting for mpm.

mmmm snacks.....goldfish. and doritos. the cheesy kind, not that icky ranch... LOL

This kinda goes with my snackgate idea. Snacks is a funny reason to vote for someone. Seems innocent enough to vote for someone because of snacks. Killer just comments about snacks here. They keep their mayor vote on themselves. Just mentioning this here because it makes me inclined to continue keeping an eye on killerleaf.

I'm not there yet. Too many people in the, 'I dunno' group.



I have no one solidly village yet, but baby village points to them.



Mild wolf points to whoever hopped on the SAR vote immediately after someone placed it. Sheeping is baaaaaaaahd. (I'm sorry lol)

Still fails to give a solid list of reads on anyone like a lot of players here. Which if anyone remembers according to Lupin’s village 101 post is super helpful for the village. She hasn’t contributed a solid analysis yet either. Mostly wishy washy in reasoning and suspicions.

I want to vote sunbodi or alissa but I'm still figuring out whether I think it's a noob thing or not. If I had to choose between alissa or Sunbodi to vote though, it would be alissa. Maybe tomorrow....



I'm okay seeing either a barky or SAR flip because there has been a lot of talk about them and it will be useful for evaluation tomorrow.



####lynch SAR####

Lists barks as a person of interest, but then chooses to vote for SAR instead. Says I’m a person of interest moreso than Sunbodi

She is a noob so I want to give her today, but after that she is fair game imo.

This is in response to questions regarding mpm’s suspicions about me. Here she says she will give me the benefit of the doubt.

####unlynch SAR lynch alissa####

Then with no reasoning, she switches her vote to lynch me even though she had claimed above that SAR or barks was a better target. She kept her vote on me through the end of the lynching.

Why are you pushing this so hard

This is my own post regarding the push on lynching barks. I didn’t read barks the same way as everyone else. They seemed to like my questioning of the push. Maybe insignificant.

Why?

This was sent in response to Sunbodi’s accurate read of Barks. They questioned their lynch vote on a now mod confirmed wolf.

What got into you today in the 15 minutes before lynch lol? Is the gunning for barky purely because of how sure you are on bigcats?

This is her response to Sunbodi’s apology to barks for lynching them. Again, mpm is questioning the lynch of barks.

Unlynch killer lynch mpm
See reasoning above that I put in spoiler tag because it was long

 

[cubsrule4e]

Spoiler: My Evidence/Reasoning

Went back over the thread again and looked for interactions with Barkley. Mypetmoose caught my eye. Time to put on my tinfoil hat (I think I’m using this term right). I’m calling these next couple reads snackgate







Barkley (mod confirmed wolf) votes mpm ”because snacks.“ Voting for someone because snacks seems innocent enough to fly under the radar sure.





I’m also growing more suspicious of wolfie. Wolfie put herself forward during the noob game as mayor and won. She was a great mayor so I find it surprising that she didn’t put herself forward for mayor again. Perhaps to avoid investigations? She also voted for mpm for the same reason as Barkley (mod confirmed wolf) “because snacks.” As a former mayor I would hope you would have a better basis of reasoning for voting for mpm.







This kinda goes with my snackgate idea. Snacks is a funny reason to vote for someone. Seems innocent enough to vote for someone because of snacks. Killer just comments about snacks here. They keep their mayor vote on themselves. Just mentioning this here because it makes me inclined to continue keeping an eye on killerleaf.







Still fails to give a solid list of reads on anyone like a lot of players here. Which if anyone remembers according to Lupin’s village 101 post is super helpful for the village. She hasn’t contributed a solid analysis yet either. Mostly wishy washy in reasoning and suspicions.







Lists barks as a person of interest, but then chooses to vote for SAR instead. Says I’m a person of interest moreso than Sunbodi







This is in response to questions regarding mpm’s suspicions about me. Here she says she will give me the benefit of the doubt.







Then with no reasoning, she switches her vote to lynch me even though she had claimed above that SAR or barks was a better target. She kept her vote on me through the end of the lynching.







This is my own post regarding the push on lynching barks. I didn’t read barks the same way as everyone else. They seemed to like my questioning of the push. Maybe insignificant.







This was sent in response to Sunbodi’s accurate read of Barks. They questioned their lynch vote on a now mod confirmed wolf.





This is her response to Sunbodi’s apology to barks for lynching them. Again, mpm is questioning the lynch of barks.

Unlynch killer lynch mpm
See reasoning above that I put in spoiler tag because it was long

now this is more village Alissa, and pretty convincing.

 

[BigCats]

@killerleaf any reads yet? It’s D3, plenty of time to at least think of something you don’t vibe with.

 

[alissa14]

I’d like to add that @Sunbodi was right with their gut feel about barks so I’m inclined to feel it may turn out the same for mpm as well. I also have suspicions for wolfie and killer as listed in my last post. Let’s keep our eyes on players who haven’t given a through list of reads yet. Remember Lupin said it’s an effective way for village to win because wolves are shy to point fingers at fellow wolves. Plus when players affiliations are revealed, we can analyze their list and check for inconsistencies and suspicious “reads”

 

[alissa14]

now this is more village Alissa, and pretty convincing.

Thank you. Keeping my eye on those involved in snackgate

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

I will say if MPM flips wolf I doubt there will be more than one wolf (if even a wolf) on her mayoral vote.

 

[deleted804295]

I would like to say not to rely too much on my gut reactions. I have played a good deal of mafia but sometimes wolves do fly under my radar until I do a detailed analysis. Now that I've gathered up some strength I will work on it.

 

[deleted804295]

Alissa, I think your contributions often go notice. Great job.

 

[BigCats]

Quiet wolfpack this game, huh? Wonder if they’re quiet because we have the right people or the wrong people on the board. Guess we’ll find out.