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Soccer WW - Match thread!
Started by ziggyandjazzy
**************I am going back to read that wafflefest after I take a shower, and I will be digitally smacking anybody that listened to sunburn's "100%"
honestly I think its between Coffee (for that one game where she was a role name seer and fake claimed affiliation seer to get people to lynch a wolf that she had no way of knowing 100% was a wolf) and Sunburn for "most annoyingly confident for the wrong reasons"
Wait when I was role name seer or ability seer?
Because both happened ☕
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@killerleaf whenever you're ready
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deleted804295
I have no clue! But I really don't like how he switched from mutts to someone else at the end last night
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deleted804295
Oh really? Sorry I was heavily medicated last night!
What is your current read on SAR?
I am at work, and in the middle of 3 projects, so most of my contributions will be after I get home today.
I am village. I am vanilla village.
And while I have played a few games, I have never learned the art of defending myself. Seriously, what can I say, other than that I am village???? no proof exists, other than the initial message from the mod gods...that I cannot share.
I have seen that divulging my role would not be helpful. either village does not believe, or wolves decide to cut the weak out of the herd.
I am village. I am vanilla village.
And while I have played a few games, I have never learned the art of defending myself. Seriously, what can I say, other than that I am village???? no proof exists, other than the initial message from the mod gods...that I cannot share.
I have seen that divulging my role would not be helpful. either village does not believe, or wolves decide to cut the weak out of the herd.
I think people are really asking for analysis of who do you think is wolf or village. Showing your line of thinking helps us determine how legitimate a claim you to being a villager trying to figure out who are the wolves/chaos. But I understand you are busy and don't have a ton of time to devote to tearing apart this whole thread to figure it out. WW definitely takes time to devote to it.
Good luck with your work!
She is still not her villager self.
And for the cubs kill, I wonder if it was because he had SAR as villager. At some point I need to read things, but my day off is me trying to unfuzz my brain. I'll have a little whiskey later and perhaps have some more focus.
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Although he was also pushing wolfie hard. Wolfie is someone I'd like to hear more from today.And for the cubs kill, I wonder if it was because he had SAR as villager. At some point I need to read things, but my day off is me trying to unfuzz my brain. I'll have a little whiskey later and perhaps have some more focus.
So then what is your opinion of him soft vouching Lupin? W/w, w/v, v/v, or not sure. I saw that you were interested in Lupin too, which is why I am asking.
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So you are completely ignoring my play last night?
And I'm right here. Ask away to get your answers.
Also, Coffee, nice game even though it was short. You went barks and had mutts contingency. No wonder you got deaded. hehe
Are you sure about how good you are at reading SAR? I keep seeing people mention that she isn't very village like but no-one seems to be sticking there. I'm not really good at reading players like her and genny.
While your play made mutts a viable lynch, I don't think you are 100% out of the realm of possibility. You didn't seem to be on after that vote, and at the time it didn't really seem like lynch would vote that way. It's worth some cred, but not as much as miz or wondering or sunbodi's cred tbh. You aren't my #1 interest right now anyway.
I'm interested in learning killer's affiliation, because I feel that will be indicative of wondering's affiliation.
I also am keeping an eye on dynamics/player trusts I'm seeing.
For instance, Mel and Wolfie, Sunbodi and BC, and Navi and killer.
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Edit: it's not a Navi killer association it's a Navi you association, my bad
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I just know she is more pressing on player questioning when I've played with her as village and in the couple games I went through to see her and genny games. I'm waiting to vote her again to see if she is able to show me that side.
ok, i missed something here. how am I and wondering tied together?
I'm sorry but saying you're village doesn't mean you're village and is a really common claim in this game. Actions speak louder than words I'm afraid. Why did you lynch sunny yesterday and disappear?
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She also lynched cats on revenge vote from prior game then disappeared. Seems to be her MO. lol
Oh, and you've played with me as a wolf. You really think I'd not be around end lynch as a wolf? Makes no sense. You are still sketch in my book here as well.
And, you said you have wondering as village based on their vote, yet you want to lynch killer to find out her affiliation?
And last but not least, what is your opinion on mutts being on Killer's lynch then?
Will give likes or loves for tallies. Sorry all I had to come down with this awful illness while modding this I feel like a lame mod 🙁 hope you’re all having fun and whatnot
I think I want to
*******lynch SAR*******
I keep mentally going back and forth on this. I like a wolfie lynch but mel more or less vouched for wolfie. Killer leaf did a few things yesterday that read more villager to me. Not totally opposed to this but the quick buildup on killer made me uncomfortable. Claiming PR early and then confirming they were PR on thread and asking why nobody was discussing her as PR gave me a squidgey feel. I’m not totally sold on this.
MPM seems ok for now, MsP seems ok to me. Lupin is a hard read for me regardless of affiliation. Nav is mildly villager after yesterday despite the awful attempted switch from mutts. I’m leaving Mel be for now. Wondering is a question mark, Lizzo is a question mark.
*******lynch SAR*******
I keep mentally going back and forth on this. I like a wolfie lynch but mel more or less vouched for wolfie. Killer leaf did a few things yesterday that read more villager to me. Not totally opposed to this but the quick buildup on killer made me uncomfortable. Claiming PR early and then confirming they were PR on thread and asking why nobody was discussing her as PR gave me a squidgey feel. I’m not totally sold on this.
MPM seems ok for now, MsP seems ok to me. Lupin is a hard read for me regardless of affiliation. Nav is mildly villager after yesterday despite the awful attempted switch from mutts. I’m leaving Mel be for now. Wondering is a question mark, Lizzo is a question mark.
Although a killer lynch would tell us if it was w/w yesterday and then we would actually have some interesting VCA. But I’m still not sold on that.
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deleted804295
FTR I dont trust Bigcats. I saved them because I don't like random lunches
BigCats was neutral at first for me but now he's leaning towards village
lynch sar
Good here while people eventually check in for further discussion.
Good here while people eventually check in for further discussion.
Woohoo surgery break! I took off my first tiny lipoma today guys. Feeling accomplished and better than yesterday where I legit had a breakdown in my kitchen because NAVLE stress maybe?
This is not quite how I saw this going down in real time. I waited to claim pr until late in lynch but not so late that we didn't still have time to strategize to someone else. I didn't ask why we weren't discussing me as a PR, I was asking why it hadn't budged anyone off of me. Trust me, if I could have avoided that whole thing altogether I would have
This is not quite how I saw this going down in real time. I waited to claim pr until late in lynch but not so late that we didn't still have time to strategize to someone else. I didn't ask why we weren't discussing me as a PR, I was asking why it hadn't budged anyone off of me. Trust me, if I could have avoided that whole thing altogether I would have
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I can respect this and I'm doing my best in the time that I have. It is definitely not up to my usual village standard and I'm sorry for that. I find this game much more challenging when I'm playing catch up and not able to respond and question in real time
Here is my reads for this morning:
Based off behavior alone, I do not trust BigCats, they are playing pretty much exactly how they played in the noob game.. and look how that turned out. Lying low on votes, but providing nice "reads" to avoid suspicion. D2 they were forced to vote bark simply for self-preservation at that point. D3 they left their vote on me all day. I don't know if ballsy enough to contribute a vote to a wolf captain, but they voted Wondering D1. This puts a ? on Wondering for me as well, but again, seems risky for him to vote for a wolf D1. Wondering also jumped on mutts vote last minute, could be a ploy to disperse suspicion since mutts was most likely going at that point.
Can't say much for Killer, the low participation and weak defense was the same in my previous game with them and they turned to be villager.
My other target from my previous post was SAR; she voted alissa last night, which I could assume was to avoid voting Bark, but it would've been strange for them to not vote killer to try and save Bar if they were working together. So maybe neutral for now?
I wouldn't be opposed to pushing a Nav vote, unless everyone really reads them as village. I just instinctively don't trust them for some reason. Possibly because of the waffling they did last night between killer/mutts.
Sunbodi gives me some kind of chaos vibes, is going 2/2 on wolf hunting this early a thing?
Still unsure of mpm; Barks voted them captain D1.
... Unfortunately I don't have a true wolf reads, like sunbodi has, at this point. I also am working my vet tech job from 4-7 PST tonight so I will definitely be missing lynch close if there are several appointments. I will pop in before 4 to see how the votes are going.
For now.....lynch Nav .. cause truly I have no idea. This will probably change once new posts come in 😛
Based off behavior alone, I do not trust BigCats, they are playing pretty much exactly how they played in the noob game.. and look how that turned out. Lying low on votes, but providing nice "reads" to avoid suspicion. D2 they were forced to vote bark simply for self-preservation at that point. D3 they left their vote on me all day. I don't know if ballsy enough to contribute a vote to a wolf captain, but they voted Wondering D1. This puts a ? on Wondering for me as well, but again, seems risky for him to vote for a wolf D1. Wondering also jumped on mutts vote last minute, could be a ploy to disperse suspicion since mutts was most likely going at that point.
Can't say much for Killer, the low participation and weak defense was the same in my previous game with them and they turned to be villager.
My other target from my previous post was SAR; she voted alissa last night, which I could assume was to avoid voting Bark, but it would've been strange for them to not vote killer to try and save Bar if they were working together. So maybe neutral for now?
I wouldn't be opposed to pushing a Nav vote, unless everyone really reads them as village. I just instinctively don't trust them for some reason. Possibly because of the waffling they did last night between killer/mutts.
Sunbodi gives me some kind of chaos vibes, is going 2/2 on wolf hunting this early a thing?
Still unsure of mpm; Barks voted them captain D1.
... Unfortunately I don't have a true wolf reads, like sunbodi has, at this point. I also am working my vet tech job from 4-7 PST tonight so I will definitely be missing lynch close if there are several appointments. I will pop in before 4 to see how the votes are going.
For now.....lynch Nav .. cause truly I have no idea. This will probably change once new posts come in 😛
Yeah, but you were around having an easy enough time talking after lynch yesterday, and even after flip, you didn't go after anyone. That doesn't seem in character to me.
I really hate making excuses so I won't here because things happening irl should not affect people's reads in the game. I will say I was definitely not in character last night but it was because of outside influence, not because I'm a wolf.
I also appreciate it's one of the few data points to go off of for me, so again, valid.
So 23 pages of posts and you still need more to actually form wolf reads?
Do you have a preferred vote for today based off current events?
I need to really sit down and think about my reads again but at this point I'd be comfortable with a killer lynch. Maybe Mel as well. Alissa's posts late yesterday look better on re-read to me and I think I may have been letting my grumpiness guide that lynch too much yesterday. I still want to go back and iso wondering again because every now and then they have a post that just gives me the ultimate squidgys
So you think mutts had no choice but to go there for her vote?
I’m a she 🙂
23 pages of total fluff.
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Short timeline here. there wasn't self prez, so I kinda feel this points killer village.
I could see that as a wolf thinking a packmate was going down and trying to get some village cred. I think killer was definitely getting lynched until Sunbodi came out with whatever the hell it was that happened close to lynch close
I think your definition of fluff and mine are very different? There have been two wolves lynched so far. If you think there's absolutely nothing to go on for thread interactions at this point I don't know how much more you're going to get. At some point you have to buckle down and commit to at least some reads.
I literally agreed with cubs on the first day that I’m playing the exact same way as I did when I wolfed. I totally am! Wanna know why? Because it worked!! If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. If I were to wolf this game, I would sure hope I’d be clever enough to switch things up when so many people rely on meta and my only meta currently is wolf meta. Incidentally, if you were to look at the past two night kills, you’d notice they were both people who I had a tiff with or who suspected me on the first lynch day. Seems like that could’ve been structured to throw shade on me. However, if you want to look at actual wolf meta from the noob game, I neeeeeeever killed anyone who was even remotely negatively tied to me. Didn’t touch killer at all when she suspected me for several days in a row. Didn’t touch Doktor when they started hardcore suspecting me in the end. I never did retaliatory kills. Too obviously tied to me, not my style. Real BigCats wolf meta this game would be NKing players I had never really associated with before or players who were hinting at having powers (SAR, Mel), unless those players were actually wolves. I know you’re suspicious of me because of last game. This is not last game. If you’re suspicious of me because of my actions this game, that’s fine. But you need to differentiate between the two.
I made this same argument about day twos lynch and possibly having two wolves on the board
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D4 GOOOOAAAAALLLLLLL Lynch Tally
Killer (1) - MPM
Lupin (1) - Sunbodi
SAR (2) - Miz, Lupin
Nav (1) - Wolfie
5/15 Players Voting
Lynch close 7 pm PST/10 pm EST
Killer (1) - MPM
Lupin (1) - Sunbodi
SAR (2) - Miz, Lupin
Nav (1) - Wolfie
5/15 Players Voting
Lynch close 7 pm PST/10 pm EST
Lynch killer I'm not satisfied with their answer and they still haven't answered my question.
After yesterday I think wolfie's definitely village.
I don't really know how to read genny but I'm okay with her so far.
Idk about lupin so far. I'm sort of leaning village-neutral.
I see a lot of people saying Nav's being a bit wolfy but idk I usually get a lot of interaction with wolfy Nav. I get alot of interaction from village Nav too. Maybe that's what's off but Nav's usually the first one to comment on me.
I can't really read SAR up or down but a lot of people have been calling her out for being wolfy. She doesn't really seem to be helping her case all that much.
A lot of other people are neutral to me.
After yesterday I think wolfie's definitely village.
I don't really know how to read genny but I'm okay with her so far.
Idk about lupin so far. I'm sort of leaning village-neutral.
I see a lot of people saying Nav's being a bit wolfy but idk I usually get a lot of interaction with wolfy Nav. I get alot of interaction from village Nav too. Maybe that's what's off but Nav's usually the first one to comment on me.
I can't really read SAR up or down but a lot of people have been calling her out for being wolfy. She doesn't really seem to be helping her case all that much.
A lot of other people are neutral to me.
If you are aware of your meta in previous games, you are aware enough to change that meta in future games. It’s a hallmark of better WW players.
With that said, still don’t think you are a wolf
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