"Some Schools"?

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I've sort of been taking a quick internet trip to the DPM schools out there. Being in Arizona, I'd obviously like to stay in my own state should I decide to move forward with podiatry school.

I have read people suggesting that "some schools" may select under-qualified candidates. Any truth to this? I can see some of the private schools not affiliated with medical institutions and/or other disciplines relying more heavily on filling their seats but it's speculative at best.

Your thoughts?
 
I don't really believe that "some schools" don't care about who they allow to matriculate. Everyone has to be qualified to a certain point and then work their ***** off if they score a spot in school. Some "underqualified" applicants won't usually be let in.... it's probably not a quota of students that each school HAS to let in....
 
I've sort of been taking a quick internet trip to the DPM schools out there. Being in Arizona, I'd obviously like to stay in my own state should I decide to move forward with podiatry school.

I have read people suggesting that "some schools" may select under-qualified candidates. Any truth to this? I can see some of the private schools not affiliated with medical institutions and/or other disciplines relying more heavily on filling their seats but it's speculative at best.

Your thoughts?

Well AZPOD is a top of the line school, no doubt about that. Relatively new but perfect board scores and part of a medical university. DMU/AZPOD seem to be the most strict with admission standards followed closely by Scholl. The rest can be a toss up, but the independent schools have been known to accept a buttload of people (with a good amount of people failing out). I'm not trying to pick on NY or Ohio specifically, as I feel Barry over-accepts as well.

One thing to look at is the admissions test the pod school takes. The only 3 that are not MCAT only are Temple, NYCPM, and Barry. One can speculate why they do not switch to solely the MCAT.
 
One thing to look at is the admissions test the pod school takes. The only 3 that are not MCAT only are Temple, NYCPM, and Barry. One can speculate why they do not switch to solely the MCAT.

Accoring to Ohio's website, they say they'll accept GRE scores.

Are you suggesting that schools that accept other forms of enterance exams (GRE/DAT) are sub par?
 
Accoring to Ohio's website, they say they'll accept GRE scores.

Are you suggesting that schools that accept other forms of enterance exams (GRE/DAT) are sub par?

according to applicants last year, they don't

can you provide a link?
 
this is all i found
Standardized Admission Exams:
The Ohio College of Podiatric Medicine also requires reported scores (not older than three years) from the Medical College Admissions Test (MCAT).
You may find additional information at:

MCAT Program Office
2450 N Street NW
Washington, DC20037
202-828-0690
http://www.aamc.org/mcat
Official exam reports should also be submitted directly to OCPM. The centralized application service (AACPMAS) will accept and verify MCAT score reports, and report your scores directly to the podiatric colleges where an application has been sent.

http://www.ocpm.edu/index.php?page=admission
 
speaking of "some schools", why do "some schools" heavily censor what their students post on SDN. In particular Dr Feelgood was a great poster here, but as soon as he criticized DMU and talked about their censorship at that school he disappeared. whats up with that?
 
speaking of "some schools", why do "some schools" heavily censor what their students post on SDN. In particular Dr Feelgood was a great poster here, but as soon as he criticized DMU and talked about their censorship at that school he disappeared. whats up with that?


I think Feelgood's decision was a personal one. It had nothing to do with DMU. Especially as a first year resident, I'm sure he's got plenty to do. A lot of DMU students are still very active on SDN. I began my SDN experience while there and even became a mod. No one ever said anything to me either way.
 
Feelgood needs to come out of SDN retirement like Brett Farve.
 
speaking of "some schools", why do "some schools" heavily censor what their students post on SDN. In particular Dr Feelgood was a great poster here, but as soon as he criticized DMU and talked about their censorship at that school he disappeared. whats up with that?
He's a good guy who wasn't afraid to say what he thought. I didn't always agree with him 100%, but he was dead on very often.

You have to keep in mind that he's also now PGY-1 at a top 10 surgical program. I obviously can't speak for him, but my best guess would be that his leaving SDN was also largely due to the need to focus on his training...

I speak fairly candidly on here and may be asked by my school to tone it down at some point, and I probably would too. As a student - and even until you finish residency - you are in a fragile position. Like my harder clerkships, I will also probably just be around SDN a lot less and in the hospital a lot more when I begin residency.

Btw, if you want to read more of the Feelgood gopel, he did co-author a good article in this Sept issue of Podiatry Today.

I think Feelgood's decision was a personal one. It had nothing to do with DMU. Especially as a first year resident, I'm sure he's got plenty to do. A lot of DMU students are still very active on SDN. I began my SDN experience while there and even became a mod. No one ever said anything to me either way.
Exactly, but you're so much more family friendly and PG rated 😀
 
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as i learn more and more, im going to try to keep the DMU crowd going on SDN 😎
 
Well AZPOD is a top of the line school, no doubt about that. Relatively new but perfect board scores and part of a medical university. DMU/AZPOD seem to be the most strict with admission standards followed closely by Scholl. The rest can be a toss up, but the independent schools have been known to accept a buttload of people (with a good amount of people failing out). I'm not trying to pick on NY or Ohio specifically, as I feel Barry over-accepts as well.

One thing to look at is the admissions test the pod school takes. The only 3 that are not MCAT only are Temple, NYCPM, and Barry. One can speculate why they do not switch to solely the MCAT.

Ok, so let's say a school only accepts the MCAT, but they will let someone with a 15 in. Because that's what three of these "MCAT-only" schools are doing. When I talked to a woman from Samuell Merrit a few months ago, she honestly told me that their minimum was a 16. I was like, Seriously? She quickly came back and threw out their "averages". I have more respect for a school willing to expand their applicant pool than one that will sacrifice quality to belong to some elite-MCAT-only pod school club. The other two: Ohio and Barry.
 
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Ok, so let's say a school only accepts the MCAT, but they will let someone with a 15 in. Because that's what three of these "MCAT-only" schools are doing. When I talked to a woman from Samuell Merrit a few months ago, she honestly told me that their minimum was a 16. I was like, Seriously? She quickly came back and threw out their "averages". I have more respect for a school willing to expand their applicant pool than one that will sacrifice quality to belong to some elite-MCAT-only pod school club. The other two: Ohio and Barry.

am i missing something here? are you saying that Barry is an MCAT only school by quoting a response from Jewmongous saying that Barry is not an MCAT only school.

I guess I don't know what you mean by the last part of you post.
 
What you guys are failing to realize is that there are exceptions to every rule. All schools will tell you they prefer MCAT... some will say it's absolutely required. Then, you will find out about "rare circumstances" where people got in with DAT, GRE, etc. Were those students ones with a very high gpa? Maybe... or maybe it was late in the cycle, the school was not yet at their enrollment cap, and they needed to fill seats in a hurry to make more tuition dollars. This same issue occurs with residencies: some will say they have a high requisite gpa or class rank, but many will be willing to drop their standards and accept poorer students in years where they get little interest or some/all of their spots go to scramble.

Regardless of which pod school says what regarding admissions tests, the bottom line is that the pod applicant pool needs to improve. Harkless, the new dean of Western will tell you this, and it's a key part of his plans. Higher admissions standards will obviously improve our profession, and it will also make attrition rates improve and the residency spot balance easier to predict. We need to go to MCAT only, and we need to be done with rolling admissions that basically say "if it's April or May and you are still on a wait list for MD/DO, go ahead and apply to pod." To me, the rolling admissions is potentially inviting MD and dent wannabe students who are going to have a bad attitude and a chip on their shoulder from the start. A lot of those late acceptance students end up feeling "limited" and dejected since they jumped into a career they did little research on beforehand... although they usually later realize that pod is a relatively great and broad scope specialty once they start clinic/residency and experience other medical and surgical services.

In the end, our pod school app pools are not bad. They are better in some years and worse in others. Pod schools certainly get better apps than a lot of other health professions grad schools, and hopefully that will continue to improve as awareness of the average level of DPM training and income rises. Dent school avg admission stats were significantly below MD schools a couple decades ago, but now many dent schools are pretty close. Many PA schools also had pretty relaxed admissions in the past, but they are now pretty competitive in most areas. Health care professions are good jobs, and I think that, all things considered (sense of reward, interesting cases, income, prestige, family time, etc), podiatry is a fantastic job.
 
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Feli, i have to hand it to you! you give such great insight and you spend a lot of time on this forum helping us all out. i hope i get to meet you when i fly out for my interview at Barry
 
I don't know about "messianic", but he is one of the better posters on this website. One could learn a thing or two from him (hint hint).
 
OCPM:I have met applicants whom took the DAT and not the MCAT that were rejected. You would have to call admission specifically and ask what they would prefer.
 
Starting last year (the class of 2012) OCPM is MCAT only. Look at the website again.
 
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