Specialties with Respect from other Physicians

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Just out of curiousity. Before anyone jumps in and says "you shouldn't be a physician to get respect blah, blah..." you are right but that is beside the point of this discussion".

Which specialties have the most respect in the hospital among physicians?

Anyone.
 
Neurosurgery, Peds Surgery, Heme/Onc, possibly transplant surgery. I have yet to hear any negative comments about those specialties among my interactions with attendings, residents and nurses. Not quite so sure about the level of respect each has for those fields, but I feel that no negative comments is a big thing to look at as a medical student.
 
Personally, the urology team is always a nice approachable group that I've never heard anyone complain about, as are the ophtho folks where I'm at. But I am sure there are places where this is not true.

It is going to be dependent on the group of docs in each specialty where you are. For example, in my hospital, the neurosurgeons are well known to be arrogant jerks and the oncologists to never tell patients the true extent of their disease and therefore don't give them accurate prognosis ("what do you mean I only have a few months to live? Dr. so and so wants to start salvage chemo and thinks I'll respond")....so other docs in the hospital are always frustrated when having to deal with them, especially since we come off as the bad guys by being forthcoming with our patients.

However, the above poster thinks otherwise in his hospital...

As far as respect, I think there are multiple ways to look at it. For example, the specialties where everybody works crazy hours (usually surgical specialties) and take a lot of call get a certain amount of respect from some other specialties. Docs who are willing to come in in the middle of the night to do something emergently for a patient (IR, GI, cards, some surgical fields) get certain amount of respect. Docs who do things others can't do due to the difficulty of dealing emotionally with their types of patients (i.e. deal with NICU babies, or do palliative care, or burn surgeons, to name a few) get respect from those who know they can't handle dealing with those patients.

Honestly, the way to get respect from others, regardless of your field, is to be pleasant, take good care of your patients, respond to your pages in a timely manner, follow through, and be respectful to others (RNs, MDs, students alike).
 
It is going to be dependent on the group of docs in each specialty where you are.

Honestly, the way to get respect from others, regardless of your field, is to be pleasant, take good care of your patients, respond to your pages in a timely manner, follow through, and be respectful to others (RNs, MDs, students alike).

👍

And may I add, know your **** and be willing to help a colleague out.
 
Honestly, the way to get respect from others, regardless of your field, is to be pleasant, take good care of your patients, respond to your pages in a timely manner, follow through, and be respectful to others (RNs, MDs, students alike).

Above summarizes.


And I am also going to add "Family Medicine" to that list! 🙂
 
...the way to get respect from others, regardless of your field, is to be pleasant, take good care of your patients, respond to your pages in a timely manner, follow through, and be respectful to others (RNs, MDs, students alike).
...And I am also going to add "Family Medicine" to that list!...
Agree on both counts. Any good physician will be respected. Too many medical grads presume they are the sh@! because, "I'm a doctor now". Respect is earned by being good at what you do... Most of my specialty colleagues have great respect for the referring GOOD primary care physician. A GOOD PCP is worth gold and we know what patients are in trouble and what patients are in excellent hands....
 
NaughtyGirl...

The day you dont feel an ounce of the "urge" to ask this question on a student forum is the day when you truly realize what specialties are truly respected in the hospital.

Food for the thought.
 
I shadowed an orthopedic hand surgeon, and everyone he worked with (patients and staff) had the utmost respect for him.
 
Generally everybody respects everybody else but each specialty field will always have their friendly prejudices against other specialties. For example PCPs think surgeons are butchers that don't know **** about prescribing medication and surgeons think PCPs are sissys for not being able to stand blood, Derm people are superficial primadonas ... I mean everyone's gonna have jokes but everyone's a doctor and everyone went through the same **** in medical school.
 
I'd say Nurses.
 
Primary Care...they refer everybody lol. And there's just such a broad knowlledge needed.
 
Completely depends where you are. At my hospital everyone gives everyone else crap. I mean they're all respectful and take their consults etc. but everyone complains about everyone behind their backs.

Medicine dislikes all the IM subspecialties, EM and surgeons
Surgeons don't like anyone but themselves
Everyone dislikes uro, orthro, neurosurg and plastics because they dodge consults.
Everyone dislikes the ED docs.
Everyone complains about the nurses.
EM and surgeons complain about IM and family.

Just depends on what rotation you're on and who you're with.

Again everyone is respectful - but they're are always jokes, annoyances and stereotypes about the other fields depending on where you are.
 
And no one talks about psychiatry? 😛
 
Deep down inside, everyone thinks they're better than everyone else.
 
Yup this basically covers it.
Heh. I just noticed that you are at UCI. I currently volunteer there. Maybe it's just this hospital or a southern CA thing. People around here tend to be a-holes all the time, but I'm use to it since I've lived here my whole life. :laugh: Everyone is so grumpy here and gets upset over nothing. There's some nice people, but yeah. There's also this one resident who I'm pretty sure is Jeffrey Dahmer after hours. I'll be doin some stuff and I'll catch him starring at me with a blank face.
 
and no one's mentioned anesthesiology yet

They're excellent DJs for the OR. Otherwise they mostly sit there and check their email, look at craigslist and play games on their phones. And sometimes patients start waking up because the anesthesiologist wasn't paying attention...

But in all seriousness, every anesthesiologist I've worked with has been super nice - they're great with the medical students who don't know WTF is going on.
 
They're excellent DJs for the OR. Otherwise they mostly sit there and check their email, look at craigslist and play games on their phones. And sometimes patients start waking up because the anesthesiologist wasn't paying attention...

But in all seriousness, every anesthesiologist I've worked with has been super nice - they're great with the medical students who don't know WTF is going on.

looks like i know what kind of doctor i wanna be!! haha
 
All doctors are gonna get some sort of respect from everyone else. You can't disrespect others and expect to get along with them. Just as the Orthopedic surgeon should get respect for being able to replace someone's knee and give them a better quality of life, PCPs should be respected for being the "infantry" on the ground and taking care of people on a day-to-day basis.
 
Competitive specialities get probably less respect.

My vote goes to neonatology, pediatric oncologists or free clinic PCPs
 
Primary Care...they refer everybody lol. And there's just such a broad knowlledge needed.

I was with several Docs yesterday and a few of them were kinda poking fun of PCPs. I thought it was kinda unprofessional but oh well.
 
I was with several Docs yesterday and a few of them were kinda poking fun of PCPs. I thought it was kinda unprofessional but oh well.

Medical doctors are human. They're unprofessional...a lot.

They have ways of coping, they gossip like everyone else and they have fun. Its never supposed to be mean its just how docs have fun.

It seems callous when you first see it. But you quickly get used to docs poking fun at other docs and poking fun at patients.
 
THose who match into competitve specialty are probably going to get most respect among the physicians. Dermatologists probably just LOL at everyone else.

No, not really. It depends on who the person is more than what specialty they're in. I know of a dermatologist who's a giant walking *****wipe and nobody likes him because he thinks he's such a big guy, and I also know a PCP who is liked and well respected by everyone because he's a genuinely nice and hardworking person.

Will some specialty doctors talk down on PCPs because they're in that position? Of course. Most don't make a show of it though and when it actually comes to working with them they have a grudging respect.
 
Regardless, just as physicians are viewed as top of the food chain by general society, dermatologists are at the top of the food chain among the physicians. Just as being a physician grants you respect, being a dermatologist will grant you respect from physicians. Once you get to know them and the respect that they earn or loose is a different thing.

You can work hard as undergrad and study for MCAT like hell and get good grades and get into top school. But when in medical school, you are playing the same ball game and everyone is serious. I like to see many of these top students do well in medical school. Anyways dermatologist definitely earn respect from me for being at top when everyone really tries.

:laugh:
 
Regardless, just as physicians are viewed as top of the food chain by general society, dermatologists are at the top of the food chain among the physicians. Just as being a physician grants you respect, being a dermatologist will grant you respect from physicians. Once you get to know them and the respect that they earn or loose is a different thing.

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Seriously? Derm is probably right around the bottom of the list for me, right a long with (some) plastic surgeons. I respect doctors for what they do, not because they did well enough in medical school, and then decided to use their brains to live a relatively cushy lifestyle and makes lots of money...
 
there is something really wrong with this thread. I'm by no means riding my high horse on this one but who the eff cares? really?

at the end of the day, respekt is earned

srs. no joke. don'tdissmefoo
 
i respect docs who gotten good enough resume for competitive residencies but choose with freewill to go to family medicine or internal medicine or even PCPs.


u know why?







so competitive residencies spot open up for people who want it like me🙂.
 
It seems to me that Anesthesiologists and Radiologists get the least respect from the other physicians and nurses because they are not considered "real" physicians by anyone. Furthermore, anyone outside of the hospital thinks that radiologists have 4 year college degrees.
 
It seems to me that Anesthesiologists and Radiologists get the least respect from the other physicians and nurses because they are not considered "real" physicians by anyone. Furthermore, anyone outside of the hospital thinks that radiologists have 4 year college degrees. Anyone else?
 
It seems to me that Anesthesiologists and Radiologists get the least respect from the other physicians and nurses because they are not considered "real" physicians by anyone. Furthermore, anyone outside of the hospital thinks that radiologists have 4 year college degrees. Anyone else?

👍 I totally agree. I would add psychiatists, too.
 
It seems to me that Anesthesiologists and Radiologists get the least respect from the other physicians and nurses because they are not considered "real" physicians by anyone. Furthermore, anyone outside of the hospital thinks that radiologists have 4 year college degrees. Anyone else?

Anyone? You sure about that?

👍 I totally agree. I would add psychiatists, too.

You have obviously never been near a psychiatrist.
 
Oh good point.

No - only crazy people become psychiatrists...everyone knows that.

Even as med students we all playfully mock each others specialty choices. Its just the way medicine is.

For example, I find this ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS. I've watched it a hundred times and I still crack up...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rTsvb2ef5k&feature=player_embedded

Found this lurking in the plastics forum a couple days ago. Also pretty funny. 😛

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6837679/
 
You have obviously never been near a psychiatrist.

I have actually.

I was not saying that psychiatrist are not real doctors. I was adding to Naughty Girl's post (although, I'm not being as general) about how some specialties tend to receive less respect than others. Some people have the misconception that psychiatists aren't "real doctors" because they treat mental/emotional/behavioral disorders rather than physiological ones (although the brain plays a huge role, too). I was not disrespecting psychiatrists. In fact, I'm considering the field.
 
It seems to me that Anesthesiologists and Radiologists get the least respect from the other physicians and nurses because they are not considered "real" physicians by anyone. Furthermore, anyone outside of the hospital thinks that radiologists have 4 year college degrees. Anyone else?

So monitoring a persons vitals and keeping them well under so that they aren't going to wake up half way in a surgery isn't really respectable? Eh without an anesthesiologist on the team the surgery wouldn't be going down period.
Without radiologists you'd more or less have an orthopedic surgeon tearing you apart before knowing what to do.
Without psychiatrists, well.. lets just point out that over 50% of all emergency room cases are come in with psychiatric or psychological issues manifesting as physical issues. So without them you'd had a bunch of people with psychological problems never getting treatment because other doctors would believe they are just lying. They are extremely important parts of the medical world as they deal with the people that other doctors can not.
 
People keep taking this thread way too seriously. They're ruining the fun.
 
I have actually.

I was not saying that psychiatrist are not real doctors. I was adding to Naughty Girl's post (although, I'm not being as general) about how some specialties tend to receive less respect than others. Some people have the misconception that psychiatists aren't "real doctors" because they treat mental/emotional/behavioral disorders rather than physiological ones (although the brain plays a huge role, too). I was not disrespecting psychiatrists. In fact, I'm considering the field.

I think generally they are well respected ( with the exception of the anti-psych movement). Psychiatrists treat a lot of things, the thing is there are a whole branch of psychiatric disorders ( somatoforms & dissociative) which other doctors can not even attempt to treat. This is because these disorders manifest physiologically and without a keen eye can be completely seen as physical disorders. It's not really just emotional and behavioral disorders but a lot more.
 
Medical doctors are human. They're unprofessional...a lot.

They have ways of coping, they gossip like everyone else and they have fun. Its never supposed to be mean its just how docs have fun.

It seems callous when you first see it. But you quickly get used to docs poking fun at other docs and poking fun at patients.

I get that. It's like that in just about every profession. The part that was NOT professional is that the comments were made a. in front of premeds who were just shadowing b. in front of me whom they'd just met and c. in front of another doc who they'd just met. I think you can agree that you kinda need to know your audience before making comments that could be taken the wrong way.
 
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