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Re: gwen, I just checked her voting history and I don't like a few of them. Particularly her lone vote for dy, which I thought was especially weird (plus she gave a weak defense of BBC in her lynch vote). Tentatively lynch gwen.
###lynch Dy###

One of the folks lynching BBC and I don't trust that lynch.

Also won't make it back before lynch end, driving home in foggy weather
The day I voted Dy was because she was voting for BBC, which had been named as Jabba's bounty. I didn't agree with the logic behind voting BBC at that time, and logic'ed that a wolf was somewhere in that group.

I don't buy BBC's role name. Seems like an odd choice for a character considering the set of names that we already know.

###lynch BBC###

The same reasoning as above. With the roles stated so far being very movie-centric, it's odd that her role is a smaller role, especially with there being such a wealth of minor SW characters that could be roles. And I don't believe that someone else is a ship, so unless the ship is willing to step forward my vote stays where it is

When BBC role revealed I jumped on that lynch and stated my reasoning as to why, as above.
 
The day I voted Dy was because she was voting for BBC, which had been named as Jabba's bounty. I didn't agree with the logic behind voting BBC at that time, and logic'ed that a wolf was somewhere in that group.





When BBC role revealed I jumped on that lynch and stated my reasoning as to why, as above.
So it was less a defense of BBC but a distaste at the reasoning behind the lynch at that time.
 
Darn. I was working on a possible theory that I thought might have made a pattern, but it didn't seem to work out. Nonetheless, I'll post it here anyway in case anyone else is smarter than me and can see something I'm missing.

So my theory was that maybe wolves could only kill from their own planet. Which would explain some of our night deaths:

Genny killed Ny.
Teep trying to kill LIS
Nessy killed Coop

Unexplained deaths:
raf on endor
Snowy on Tatooine
Caia on Tatooine
Wildzoo on Cloud City

So based on people throwing suspicion at Ally and Gwen, I tossed them in there based on the assumption that ally would be original and gwen the convert. In which case, ally could have killed raf, and gwen could have killed both Caia and Snowy.

The only problem being I still can't account for who killed WZ using that theory since BBC died in the lynch right before, so I think it all falls apart at that point. But I figured I'd post it anyway just in case I am on to something but am just missing a piece.

Going off your idea...cdoconn, FB, and hmoo were on Cloud City with WZ...
 
Darn. I was working on a possible theory that I thought might have made a pattern, but it didn't seem to work out. Nonetheless, I'll post it here anyway in case anyone else is smarter than me and can see something I'm missing.

So my theory was that maybe wolves could only kill from their own planet. Which would explain some of our night deaths:

Genny killed Ny.
Teep trying to kill LIS
Nessy killed Coop

Unexplained deaths:
raf on endor
Snowy on Tatooine
Caia on Tatooine
Wildzoo on Cloud City

So based on people throwing suspicion at Ally and Gwen, I tossed them in there based on the assumption that ally would be original and gwen the convert. In which case, ally could have killed raf, and gwen could have killed both Caia and Snowy.

The only problem being I still can't account for who killed WZ using that theory since BBC died in the lynch right before, so I think it all falls apart at that point. But I figured I'd post it anyway just in case I am on to something but am just missing a piece.
I'm not sure how I feel about this because usually mechanics where wolves can only kill within their own groups are easy for the village to pick up on for game solving purposes. Considering that all other night actions in the game have been able to be completed without restriction to the player's own group it wouldn't make sense to me for just the wolves to have that restriction.
 
My thinking is that Han's role ability may have been an extra kill attempt.
Definitely possible and fits with the character. I was also wondering if maybe our chaos had a kill attempt.
Darn. I was working on a possible theory that I thought might have made a pattern, but it didn't seem to work out. Nonetheless, I'll post it here anyway in case anyone else is smarter than me and can see something I'm missing.

So my theory was that maybe wolves could only kill from their own planet. Which would explain some of our night deaths:

Genny killed Ny.
Teep trying to kill LIS
Nessy killed Coop

Unexplained deaths:
raf on endor
Snowy on Tatooine
Caia on Tatooine
Wildzoo on Cloud City

So based on people throwing suspicion at Ally and Gwen, I tossed them in there based on the assumption that ally would be original and gwen the convert. In which case, ally could have killed raf, and gwen could have killed both Caia and Snowy.

The only problem being I still can't account for who killed WZ using that theory since BBC died in the lynch right before, so I think it all falls apart at that point. But I figured I'd post it anyway just in case I am on to something but am just missing a piece.
I'd highly doubt that was a mechanism. The only time I've seen that was in STL's immune game. Also, someone tried to kill LIS again last night, and right now I feel pretty good about just about everyone on my planet.
 
I'd highly doubt that was a mechanism. The only time I've seen that was in STL's immune game.
This also technically happened in the DRoP game when LOTF made the thread shutters that prevented people from moving outside of their group overnight, which included night actions like the wolf kill.

Either way, mechanisms like this are usually very obvious to the village.
 
It's not unheard of that wolves can only kill in their own group (as we saw in the immuno game), but I would say that's a pretty uncommon mechanic.

Unless someone has a really great idea about who Han Solo is, I'm inclined to vote for 3m again today. I know it seems like I'm tunneling on her (and if you really are village I'm sorry girl), but I've been suspecting that she is Jabba since like day 3, and I know the "behind the scenes" stuff that kara is talking about. If Jabba really is a villager, which characters could be chaos instead? Unless one of the droids is chaos, I'm just really not seeing how it could not be Jabba. And we haven't heard anything indicating the droids are in the game at all.
 
Snowshoe was a helpful villager, trying to get people where they needed to be to aid in communication. She'd just logged another successful flight with another "happy" passenger. Unfortunately, it seems that someone had sabotaged her engine while she escorted her passenger off her ship. When she ignited her shuttle's engine for liftoff, it exploded around her.

Unless someone has a really great idea about who Han Solo is, I'm inclined to vote for 3m again today. I know it seems like I'm tunneling on her (and if you really are village I'm sorry girl), but I've been suspecting that she is Jabba since like day 3, and I know the "behind the scenes" stuff that kara is talking about. If Jabba really is a villager, which characters could be chaos instead? Unless one of the droids is chaos, I'm just really not seeing how it could not be Jabba. And we haven't heard anything indicating the droids are in the game at all.
The above line from this morning's write up could indicate droid involvement. R2 was known to do these types of things.

Is there any reason to believe there were only 5 originals?
 
No, I don't think there was anything concrete indicating there were only 5.

Has it ever happened that there would be a wolf with only 1 kill attempt allowed, like wolf-affiliated 1x assassin? I could see that being given to a droid.

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I would be surprised if there wasn't a convert.

Yeah I agree there definitely has to be a convert.. I was just between whether or not there has only been one convert (like I remember seeing claimed on the thread earlier after that kill less night - I need to double check who said that and see if its one of the confirmed dead villagers or not) or if there was another convert done prior to teeps death.
There has been one and only one convert so far and it was on the kill-less night after teep died.
 
The above line from this morning's write up could indicate droid involvement. R2 was known to do these types of things.

Is there any reason to believe there were only 5 originals?
There's really nothing solid that says there couldn't be more than 5 originals.

No, I don't think there was anything concrete indicating there were only 5.

Has it ever happened that there would be a wolf with only 1 kill attempt allowed, like wolf-affiliated 1x assassin? I could see that being given to a droid.

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Something along the same lines, but it's happened where one wolf couldn't kill until the other wolves were dead.
 
Snowy had wanted to talk about ally and gwen today
I'd be good with that. I just went through and checked their postings/ what people said about them and they both seem to be laying low this game. I'd love some discussion today.

Kara, do you know if there was anything in particular she wanted to ask / address?

cdo, I've been kind of quiet mostly because I don't know a whole lot. I haven't been PMing, mostly because I I tend to overshare when I have a chatty PM partner and I've ended up feeding wolves info / trusting people who turned out to be wolves in past games. The only interesting things that have happened to me all game were getting the ale and having the not-good / not-evil thing look at me. I assumed that one was a seer or similar, but don't really know.

If you look at my posting history, I've been putting my suspect lists and reasons out there and checking in multiple times a day, which is not exactly laying low.

I'm just now catching up on today, but as of yesterday before the moo-wagon gained steam, my list of people who were suspicious due to laying low (no opinions as to who is wolfy vs villagery and/or no substantive posts at all) consisted of: Ski, KC, Gwen, and FB.

Also pretty convinced by block + no bounty that 3m is Jabba. I don't know if Jabba is wolf or chaos or neutral, but I explained earlier why I think the Jabba bribe system isn't good villager play. We don't win by trading dead villagers for redirects.
 
this post from ally yesterday felt off to me. I can't quite put my finger on why it stood out to me, but for what it's worth, it did.

It's probably because it doesn't sound like me. 😀 I had this whole long post written up analysing why I thought it made zero sense for Jabba to be a villager being framed by the wolves, and proposing some alternate theories. And then I decided I didn't want LIS to scold me again for giving explanations for other people's posts, rather than asking them to explain themselves. So I edited to ask 3m to explain for themselves. Which they didn't do, I'll note.
 
I also thought 3m made comments yesterday that made her sound like Jabba, but she also said she role revealed to people off thread and they believed her. Considering discussion on thread has mostly been that Jabba is likely chaos, I'd be surprised if she told people she was Jabba and they were ok with it.

This is the only reason I don't have a vote on 3m yet, but I would really like more info here.
 
Okay...I'm role revealing in the attempt to get the discussion off of Jabba and onto people that are ACTUALLY wolves/chaos. We are wasting wayyy too much time focusing on a character is this game who is not nearly as interesting/secretive as you all have envisioned.

I am Jabba, which based on the things I've said isn't too hard to figure out. I am 100% villager. Not a wolf. Not chaos. No crazy win condition. Here is everything Zensing gave me word for word...I am actually copying and pasting this and no I'm not changing anything...

"Jabba the Hutt (Villager) - A highly influencial leader of smugglers and bounty hunters across the Outer Rim. Each night, submit a player name to place a bounty on them. The bounty will be posted as part of the morning write-up. If the player with a bounty dies that day, one of the people who voted to lynch the bountied player will receive a special item the following day.

FYI - The bounty reward is

Credits - Money makes the galaxy go 'round. Use this at night to bribe a player into switching their target to a player of your choice (redirect).

One RNG'd player out of the players who voted for the bountied player receives this item. Bounty only payable if the bountied target is lynched."

I was insanely confused when the write-up started saying weird things about me. I even went to Zensing and clarified my role because I didn't know what it was about. Finally, Caia reached out to me and I role revealed to her. It was her suggestion (which I believe to be true) that the wolves are the ones who put those FALSE things about me in the write-up. I imagine to set me up/ make people not want to follow the bounties I set.

Some of my bounties were kind of random when I didn't have a good feel on who to choose...but several times I set bounties on individuals who ended up being wolves. I wouldn't do that if I was a wolf. Plus, think about the character...definitely on the Empire side and not the Rebel side.

I don't know who the rest of the wolves/chaos are at this point, but I am a BAD lynch.
 
Admiral Piett reporting. I am a tiebreaker. However during the cdo/BBC lynch I wasn't around during lynch close so I didn't choose that lynch, so unless there's another tied lynch I can't prove my role.
last Friday I got the ale but didn't use it on anyone. I sent Jilary the medpack on Monday night, on Thursday night the not good/not evil presence visited me.
 
Admiral Piett reporting. I am a tiebreaker. However during the cdo/BBC lynch I wasn't around during lynch close so I didn't choose that lynch, so unless there's another tied lynch I can't prove my role.
last Friday I got the ale but didn't use it on anyone. I sent Jilary the medpack on Monday night, on Thursday night the not good/not evil presence visited me.
I don't believe I ever got a medpack.
 
I know for a fact that I received the medpack Monday night and that I "Stood by Jilary all night with the medpack but it was not needed." So when I come up village, keep that in mind.
 
The med pack is the protection. I used it on you. Was not needed.

This is interesting because someone else used the med pack on me the other night and it wasn't needed but I still got a message about it.
I did not get notification of this. I will try to message the mods, but I know Zen is out at a party.
 
Lynch Gwen
Admiral Piett reporting. I am a tiebreaker. However during the cdo/BBC lynch I wasn't around during lynch close so I didn't choose that lynch, so unless there's another tied lynch I can't prove my role.
last Friday I got the ale but didn't use it on anyone. I sent Jilary the medpack on Monday night, on Thursday night the not good/not evil presence visited me.

The med pack is the protection. I used it on you. Was not needed.
This story doesn't seem accurate to me, especially in that I received a PM from zensing the next morning (Sunday morning) letting me know that
Someone stood near ready with a medpac, but it was not needed.
 
Lynch Gwen


This story doesn't seem accurate to me, especially in that I received a PM from zensing the next morning (Sunday morning) letting me know that
Gwen said she used it on me on Monday, so I should I gotten notice of it on Tuesday. I don't want to jump on Gwen just yet, because I know mods have made oversights like this before. But if anyway can counter the claim, then I would love to hear it. So if anyone had the medpack Monday night, or were told someone stood by them with it Tuesday morning, please let me know.
 
I guess Unlynch Gwen.

I don't really know where to go from here. 3m and Gwen were my big guesses. I guess I gotta go look through again.