Stats of Applicants to Irish schools and Acceptance, Waitlist or Rejection

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Hey Vancouver Maple,

You are 100% correct and I totally agree. The ABP process has been nothing like they described on their website. I have a feeling that this is the attitude of the Irish and, for those going to med school in Ireland, be prepared for this type of behavior. I have read numberous posts on how frustrating the Irish system is on actually doing what they say...ex. classes get canceled last minute, schedules change, and the international student really has to push and take the proactive role in their success to securing a U.S. or Canadian residency.

I think you should email the ABP what you wrote here because everything you said is accurate. However, maybe you should do that after you get into an Irish school...lol. You don't want to piss them off if they could possibly have a hand in what applications are being considered!

Katie

As to where the 10% came from, it was based on their experience with what they observed from past applicants. They said it changes from year to year and university to university but on average it is 10%. It is not a number they made up, it is from what they saw (they saw that 10% of people who get accepted decline the offer, so 10% of people on reserve get accepted).
 
I totally agree with how this admissions process has been going. I never called ABP since they emailed that FAQ saying not to, but now I hear people are doing that? It truly is a rollercoaster, from lows of not getting a first round offer, to a high of getting an interview for Limerick, then a low of getting rejected from Limerick, and now uncertainty. Peter Nealon told me after I was rejected that I stand a good chance at the other schools, and that my application is good. He said he would tell me if I didn't stand a chance, so now I'm not sure how I should feel, whether I should get my hopes up of getting an offer which could potentially happen from now until the end of August.
 
The 10% is definitely just a guestimate of the waitlist spot movement they've seen in the past. All universities have a number for this sort of thing. I'd also wager to guess that people who get their applications in on time will get reviewed first purely because the universities get those packages first, and that's where the competitive advantage lies. I doubt they dock application 'points' for late submissions, they are going to take the best applicants they can get.

I've had a pretty positive experience with ABP all in all, and they only mean well. And really, if one hasn't heard from ANYWHERE by an expected date regardless of the institution, you call them.

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On a side note, med schools can pretty much do whatever they want. As an example, there's a med school in Canada that has a rather clear cut system for assessing applicants (ie. X% for EC's, Y% for GPA etc) but at the end of the day, regardless of the other scores, the top 5% of interview scores get in (which they don't tell you, and isn't common knowledge). This whole applying to medicine business is an annoying, cut throat game 😉
 
University Degree: Psychology with Honors
My GPA is: 3.5
I applied to: Trinity, Galway, Cork, UCD, RCSI, Limerick
I was accepted at: Trinity, Galway
I was waitlisted at: I have no idea
I was rejected from: Cork, RCSI
 
As an update, I sent in my Trinity Deposit today along with accompanying forms. Will get on the vaccinations/etc. now. But here is my completed form:

I'm from: New Orleans, Louisiana, USA
My country of citizenship is: USA
Currently studying: I'm a Research Tech in Cardiovascular Research
At this University: I graduated from Loyola University New Orleans with 2 majors and 3 minors.
My GPA is: 3.80
My MCAT Scores were: N/A: I didnt take MCAT
I should also mention that I've been in research for 3 years have my name on 5 high impact journals, and have about 30 or so oral and poster presentations at competitive national scientific meetings on my cv.


I applied to: Trinity College Dublin, and Galway
I was accepted at: Trinity College Dublin, Galway
I was waitlisted at: n/a
I was rejected from: n/a


My first choice school is: Trinity... paid the deposit... attending!

I have applied to medical schools this many times: First Application.
 
I was wondering. What is the difference between Australia and Ireland med schools? Does Ireland have any advantage? I know that the percentage of Irish grads matching back in Canada is higher (not too much). But what if we apply to the US, is there a difference?
 
The ABP has a lot of experience in dealing with the various medical schools so would have a good idea of what each school is looking for, the chances of getting a place if you are on a waiting list etc., There are 4, 5 and 6 year programmes and each school has different criteria and assessment. It is not an automated system - each application has to be invidually read and assessed - it is not a matter of sticking a pin in a list of names! So patience with the system is a necessary fact of life. And if you are thinking of Ireland then get used to it.
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Got my rejection from Trinity today, still waiting on Galway, UCC, RCSI, and UCD
 
Got my rejection from Trinity today, still waiting on Galway, UCC, RCSI, and UCD

Wow...I'm sorry to hear that. Theyr sending out rejections now 🙁?
You may still have a chance for other schools.
Anyone else got rejections? This makes me worry because they told me they won't be sending anything decisions until mid-may...
 
Got an offer from UCC today! Don't have the official documents yet but I got an email from Peter Nealon! So excited!
 
Does anyone know how making a deposit at one school effects your application at the other Irish schools? For example, I made a deposit at RCSI (which is where I want to go) - but does that mean I automatically hear nothing from the others? How does this work?
 
Does anyone know how making a deposit at one school effects your application at the other Irish schools? For example, I made a deposit at RCSI (which is where I want to go) - but does that mean I automatically hear nothing from the others? How does this work?

Does it matter if you're going to RCSI anyway? People do get multiple offers.
 
Does anyone know how making a deposit at one school effects your application at the other Irish schools? For example, I made a deposit at RCSI (which is where I want to go) - but does that mean I automatically hear nothing from the others? How does this work?

ABP told me that it doesn't matter. But I'm still skeptical....... I hope they're honest!!!!
 
Hi, I've been following this message board but haven't posted anything until now. I have finished undergrad but still need one more chemistry class, and one more physics class, as well as the MCAT in order to apply in the US. I just got my rejection letter from Trinity, but am still waiting on NUIG. Here's my stats for anyone who is still waiting to hear. Good luck to all of you!

I'm from: Portland, Maine USA
My country of citizenship is: USA
Currently studying: graduated with BA in Philosophy focus on Biomedical Ethics
At this University: Macalester College St. Paul MN
My GPA is: 3.3
My MCAT Scores were: Physical Sciences: Verbal: Haven't taken yet
Biological Sciences: Written Sample:

I applied to: Trinity, NUIG
I was accepted at:
I was waitlisted at:
I was rejected from: Trinity

My first choice school is: NUIG

I have applied to medical schools this many times: This is my first time
 
From: Ontario, Canada.
Currently studying: M.Sc in progress (but no publications). lots of presentations
My GPA is: 3.4
My MCAT Scores were: 10PS, 8VR, 9 BS, WS R

I applied to: Trinity, UCD, UCC
I was accepted at: UCC
I was waitlisted at: Trinity/UCD automatically due to very late app (march)
I was rejected from: none

My first choice school is: Didnt care. Guess Im going to UCC. Yay 🙂

I have applied to medical schools this many times: This is my first time
 
From: Ontario, Canada.
Currently studying: M.Sc in progress (but no publications). lots of presentations
My GPA is: 3.4
My MCAT Scores were: 10PS, 8VR, 9 BS, WS R

I applied to: Trinity, UCD, UCC
I was accepted at: UCC
I was waitlisted at: Trinity/UCD automatically due to very late app (march)
I was rejected from: none

My first choice school is: Didnt care. Guess Im going to UCC. Yay 🙂

I have applied to medical schools this many times: This is my first time


I'm going to UCC too!
 
Line of credit. Thing is though, Royal Bank won't give me the loan until I get an unconditional acceptance letter, meaning I have to pay my deposit and mail my acceptance form. I was going to use the credit to pay the deposit, so now I have to get my parents to loan me 4000 euros.
 
Line of credit. Thing is though, Royal Bank won't give me the loan until I get an unconditional acceptance letter, meaning I have to pay my deposit and mail my acceptance form. I was going to use the credit to pay the deposit, so now I have to get my parents to loan me 4000 euros.

I see. I guess I will have to pay that depositt too once I get my letter. Are you doing the standard 150 k like everyone else? Do u know how interests work on that and if you have to make monthly payments? Why do people take out the whopping amount? Is there a rule that says we have to do so? sorry for all the questions 😉
 
I see. I guess I will have to pay that depositt too once I get my letter. Are you doing the standard 150 k like everyone else? Do u know how interests work on that and if you have to make monthly payments? Why do people take out the whopping amount? Is there a rule that says we have to do so? sorry for all the questions 😉

Yeah I'm doing the 150k. You only have to pay the interest while you're in school. You don't have to pay back any of the principal until you are done your residency. I'm taking the whole thing, but I'm only going to use it as I need it. You only pay the interest on the portion you use, so I'm estimating I'll probably use maybe 60K of it this year and hopefully I can get some provincial student loans. I have a friend just starting at Saba and he took out the 150K and got 44K in provincial student loans.
 
Is it typical to still be waiting from schools? I have still yet to receive anything.

Only ONE (1) letter.

Denial from RCSI.

Everywhere else, nothing. Am I an odd butterfly or are others in the same situation?
 
I see. I guess I will have to pay that depositt too once I get my letter. Are you doing the standard 150 k like everyone else? Do u know how interests work on that and if you have to make monthly payments? Why do people take out the whopping amount? Is there a rule that says we have to do so? sorry for all the questions 😉


It's a line of credit not a loan. 150 000K is a professional student line of credit that works like a credit card without the card. 150 000K is your 'maximum' and you take out as much as you need at a time. You pay interest on the amount of you have borrowed not the maximum amount you can borrow. Interest is usually at the bank's prime lending rate until graduation at which point the terms are re-negotiated and a repayment schedule established(if one is not specified in your original agreement).

Just like a credit card, monthly payments are required to cover the interest charges on the amount you have borrowed. Unlike a credit card, you do not have to pay anything towards the amount you have borrowed (the principle) until you graduate. You may be able to pay the interest charges by taking more money from your line of credit but this will substantially increase your post-graduation debt load as the interest will compound monthly.

You can calculate the monthly interest payment by taking the banks annual prime lending rate (eg. 2.25% Royal bank as of today) and dividing by 12 (months/year) and multiplying that by the amount you owe on your line of credit. Lets say you take out 30 000 CAD for first year. Monthly you will owe 2.25%/12*30000= $56.25. However, interest rates are at historic lows right now and will likely climb during your time in medical school.
 
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I'm from: Ontario
My country of citizenship is: Canada
Currently studying: graduated MSc last year
At this University: McMaster
My GPA is: 3.4 undergrad, 3.7 in last 2 years; 3.9 grad
My MCAT Scores were: Physical Sciences: 11 Verbal: 10
Biological Sciences: 12 Written Sample: Q

I applied to: UCD, UCC, Limerick (4 yr program); Ontario, Calgary, US, St.George's University
I was accepted at: UCD, SGU
I was waitlisted at:
I was rejected from: Canada, US

My first choice school is: probably SGU. one more off the UCD waitlist.

I have applied to medical schools this many times: 2nd time
 
It's a line of credit not a loan. 150 000K is a professional student line of credit that works like a credit card without the card. 150 000K is your 'maximum' and you take out as much as you need at a time. You pay interest on the amount of you have borrowed not the maximum amount you can borrow. Interest is usually at the bank's prime lending rate until graduation at which point the terms are re-negotiated and a repayment schedule established(if one is not specified in your original agreement).

Just like a credit card, monthly payments are required to cover the interest charges on the amount you have borrowed. Unlike a credit card, you do not have to pay anything towards the amount you have borrowed (the principle) until you graduate. You may be able to pay the interest charges by taking more money from your line of credit but this will substantially increase your post-graduation debt load as the interest will compound monthly.

You can calculate the monthly interest payment by taking the banks annual prime lending rate (eg. 2.25% Royal bank as of today) and dividing by 12 (months/year) and multiplying that by the amount you owe on your line of credit. Lets say you take out 30 000 CAD for first year. Monthly you will owe 2.25%/12*30000= $56.25. However, interest rates are at historic lows right now and will likely climb during your time in medical school.

This may be relevant, but I know this year banks in Canada were offering 200k as the new max.
 
I was looking through these stats to see where I stood when I apply this september and the acceptances/rejections are all over the place. Are there actually any concrete entry requirements (except for MCATs for the 4 year programs of course)? Also, for those who applied to a 5 year program and did not take the MCATs, do you think it hurt you?
 
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From: Vancouver, Canada.
Currently studying: Molecular Biology
My GPA is: 3.9
My MCAT Scores were: 11PS, 8VR, 10 BS, WS N

I applied to: Trinity, UCD, UCC, Galway, Limerick, RCSI
I was accepted at: UCC
I was waitlisted at: UCD, Limerick, Galway
I was rejected from: RCSI, Trinity

My first choice school is: UCC, UCD

I have applied to medical schools this many times: first time
 
I've been reading the threads and I just wanted some feedback on my chances of getting into irish med schools.

I have completed 2 undergrad degrees. The first undergrade resulted in a gpa that was garbage and the second ( lasted only one year) resulted in a gpa of 3.6-3.7. I plan on applying to 5 yr programs and was wondering what were my chances of getting in.

thanks
 
I'm from: Ottawa, ON, Canada
My country of citizenship is: Canadian
Currently studying: B.Sc. in Kinesiology (Honours); Bachelor of Health Sciences (Honours)
At this University: University of Ottawa
My GPA is: 3.5 (1st degree); 3.7 (2nd degree)
My MCAT Scores were: N/A (wrote them, but didn't submit because they weren't the greatest)

I applied to: Ottawa, Northern, Trinity, NUIG, RCSI – Bahrain
I was accepted at: NUIG
I was waitlisted at: RCSI – Bahrain
I was rejected from: Ottawa, Northern (pre-interview); Trinity 2nd round

My first choice school is: NUIG

I have applied to medical schools this many times: 2 (through OMSAS in Ontario); 0 abroad
 
I was looking through these stats to see where I stood when I apply this september and the acceptances/rejections are all over the place. Are there actually any concrete entry requirements (except for MCATs for the 4 year programs of course)? Also, for those who applied to a 5 year program and did not take the MCATs, do you think it hurt you?

Trinity College Dublin does not require MCATs for its five year programme.
 
I was looking through these stats to see where I stood when I apply this september and the acceptances/rejections are all over the place. Are there actually any concrete entry requirements (except for MCATs for the 4 year programs of course)? Also, for those who applied to a 5 year program and did not take the MCATs, do you think it hurt you?


Well, I dont know about Concrete entry requirements, but I heard that Trinity favors research experience. I was accepted first round, and all the others I know accepted also had advanced degrees/ actual research backgrounds. I dont know if this is true, but the rumor definitely holds up for me. I was also accepted in galways 5 yr course without MCATS. My research is pretty vast, but I'm not sure if the same rumor goes for Galway. I accepted Trinity as it was my first choice.

Cheers,
Charlotte
 
I've been reading the threads and I just wanted some feedback on my chances of getting into irish med schools.

I have completed 2 undergrad degrees. The first undergrade resulted in a gpa that was garbage and the second ( lasted only one year) resulted in a gpa of 3.6-3.7. I plan on applying to 5 yr programs and was wondering what were my chances of getting in.

thanks

Sorry, but now that the 4 year programmes are up and running they're not taking a lot of post-grads into the undergrad courses at the schools that offer them.

If your academic background has such mixed results the first question I'd ask if I were on admissions would be why don't you take the MCAT/GAMSAT and try for the programme designed for you? If you haven't taken the test the unavoidable conclusion is that you're not capable of doing it.

But that does still leave you Trinity and NUIG (or is it just "G" now that the NUI has been dissolved?).
 
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Hey everyone! I'm currently in first year at Trinity and absolutely loving it!! (so if you get accepted to Trinity....accept, accept, accept!)

I just wanted to wish everyone luck and give you guys a head's up. From what I have heard from my NA classmates and other ABP applicants, students will only receive acceptance from ONE of the schools (that is, if you even get accepted). So, if you have been accepted, it is likely that it is your only acceptance. Weird system, but I guess it makes the decision for you!

I don't come on here very often, but if you guys have any questions about Dublin, the schools, etc, feel free to PM me!

GOOD LUCK!!



Hi There!
Can you tell me more about Trinity College?? I am new to Value MD..I hope this message reaches you. Thanks!!!
 
Sorry, but now that the 4 year programmes are up and running they're not taking a lot of post-grads into the undergrad courses at the schools that offer them.

If your academic background has such mixed results the first question I'd ask if I were on admissions would be why don't you take the MCAT/GAMSAT and try for the programme designed for you? If you haven't taken the test the unavoidable conclusion is that you're not capable of doing it.

But that does still leave you Trinity and NUIG (or is it just "G" now that the NUI has been dissolved?).
i've actually written the mcat, and got low 20's. Ive rewritten it a second time and am waiting for my results.
Im more interested into going into the undergrad program in order to ensure i have a firm grasp of all the material, I may not understand. I've seen people get into the grad program with 3.2's on here so I wondering why it would be difficult to get into the undergrad with a higher gpa than that
 
Hi There!
Can you tell me more about Trinity College?? I am new to Value MD..I hope this message reaches you. Thanks!!!

I don't think you meant to post this here bc this is SDN. But anyway, I'm pretty sure there's a recent Trinity thread around and the school threads people have recently started have been helpful (like the UCC one, Galway, etc.)🙂
 
Is anyone else attending UCC? I know the GEM class is ~40 people... and only 3 or 4 have claimed acceptance here, or @ the FB group, etc.,

I'm UCC GEM 2014, from the USA.
 
I will be at UCC as well. Coming from Saskatchewan.
 
Ill be going to UCC in the fall too. Coming from Toronto.
If you want, someone created a facebook group:University College Cork Medical School, Graduating Class of 2014.
 
Has anyone heard back (acceptance or rejection) from UL or UCD yet? Also does anyone know if rejections from UL and UCD are sent by e-mail or by post?

So far I've been rejected from UCC (e-mail) and RCSI (letter) 🙁
 
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All rejection letters are sent by regular mail (expect the smaller, thin envelope) which comes directly from the schools and the acceptance letters are those large white thick packages which comes from ABP. I completely understand your pain, if you really want to know now you could also directly email the individual schools and they should be able to tell you.

For UL, did you interview with them? If you haven't, I can almost guarantee you will not get an acceptance with them and UCD slots are filled by now (unless someone drops out last minute with their deposit already gone). Best of luck to you and I hope you get answers.
 
All rejection letters are sent by regular mail (expect the smaller, thin envelope) which comes directly from the schools and the acceptance letters are those large white thick packages which comes from ABP. I completely understand your pain, if you really want to know now you could also directly email the individual schools and they should be able to tell you.

For UL, did you interview with them? If you haven't, I can almost guarantee you will not get an acceptance with them and UCD slots are filled by now (unless someone drops out last minute with their deposit already gone). Best of luck to you and I hope you get answers.

I didn't interview with UL, but I should have received a rejection letter by now. Cork and RCSI sent my rejection letters almost immediately after they received my MCAT scores. So would this mean that I might be wait-listed at UL and UCD?

Has anyone received rejection letters from UL or UCD yet?
 
UL doesn't accept anyone without an interview, so you're pretty much hooped there. UCD rejections have been sent out, got mine a few weeks ago, not that it matters to me.
 
Does anyone know if UL has sent out their rejections yet? Has anyone gotten a rejection letter from UL?
 
Hi everyone,

I just finished my first year of University at McMaster in Hamilton, Ontario in Life Sciences.

I applied, was interviewed for, and received an offer at RCSI for the 5 year program.
 
Hello, everyone congrats on getting in. I am applying fall 2011 to Galway, and Trinity (the two schools that don't harp on the mcat). If you dont mind me asking what was your background GPA and clinical history. I finished up with a BA in bio, my under grad GPA was 3.678, I work in one ER and as an paid EMT and a volunteer EMT for five years. My application has been submitted on 8/23/2010. Any insight would greatly help.
 
Hey guys, I'm going to be applying for fall 2011 at RCSI. I'm in high school right now and applying for 6 year program. Do you guys think I have a chance? 🙂

Biology- 91%
Chemistry- 87%
Physics- 89%
Functions-88%
Calculas- 87%
English- 85%

I also volunteer at the local hospital, involved in charities, and a few ec's.
 
Hey guys, I'm going to be applying for fall 2011 at RCSI. I'm in high school right now and applying for 6 year program. Do you guys think I have a chance? 🙂

Biology- 91%
Chemistry- 87%
Physics- 89%
Functions-88%
Calculas- 87%
English- 85%

I also volunteer at the local hospital, involved in charities, and a few ec's.

To be honest I think you will have a decent chance of getting called for an interview. You said that you're still in high school, so that means you can work on improving your marks just a little to try to bring some subjects to that 90%.If you finished high school I still beleive your marks are good enough for an interview. Other than that RCSI really looks for high school students tha not only have a good averagge but also have volunteered and been involved in a couple of charities, so that is an advantage for you IMO.

I recently graduated from High school and applied to rcsi 6 year program for 2010, I was shortliested for an interview with them learned alot, eventually ended up in the waiting list, im positive by now that I won't be accepted from the waiting list but there is always next year 🙂.

What I think gave me a disadvantage was that I didn't do as much volunteering as I hoped, so like I said volunteering with hospitals and charities will be an advantage. You're volunteering seems like an advantage to me.

Another disadvantage was that my competitors had done the A level system while I finished the American curriculum no AP's but with a decent marks : Physics 85%, Chemistry 90%, Calculus 90%, English 93%, Economics 90%.

I know by now I talked to much, but if you still have a year before you graduate that will help you alot, not only will you be able to do more volunteering, you will also be able to raise your average, and who knows you might even be in RCSI in 2011. Good Luck hope that helped 😛.
 
Hi everyone,

I just wanted to know what my chances are of being accepted into any of the 4 year programs.

MCAT:changed

Undergrad cGPA: 3.85, Undergrad sGPA: 3.90

I have above average extracurriculars and will also have a Master's degree in Molecular Biology when I apply.

Thanks.
 
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To be honest I think you will have a decent chance of getting called for an interview. You said that you're still in high school, so that means you can work on improving your marks just a little to try to bring some subjects to that 90%.If you finished high school I still beleive your marks are good enough for an interview. Other than that RCSI really looks for high school students tha not only have a good averagge but also have volunteered and been involved in a couple of charities, so that is an advantage for you IMO.

I recently graduated from High school and applied to rcsi 6 year program for 2010, I was shortliested for an interview with them learned alot, eventually ended up in the waiting list, im positive by now that I won't be accepted from the waiting list but there is always next year 🙂.

What I think gave me a disadvantage was that I didn't do as much volunteering as I hoped, so like I said volunteering with hospitals and charities will be an advantage. You're volunteering seems like an advantage to me.

Another disadvantage was that my competitors had done the A level system while I finished the American curriculum no AP's but with a decent marks : Physics 85%, Chemistry 90%, Calculus 90%, English 93%, Economics 90%.

I know by now I talked to much, but if you still have a year before you graduate that will help you alot, not only will you be able to do more volunteering, you will also be able to raise your average, and who knows you might even be in RCSI in 2011. Good Luck hope that helped 😛.

Thanks Kariidu, Im not done high school yet but, I will for sure try to raise my marks to about 90%, and I think I also might volunteer a bit more, which may give me an edge. Also, good luck next year :xf:
 
Hi everyone,

I just wanted to know what my chances are of being accepted into any of the 4 year programs.

MCAT:
PS-11 VR-7 BS-10 WS-R. 28R

Undergrad cGPA: 3.85, Undergrad sGPA: 3.90

I have above average extracurriculars and will also have a Master's degree in Molecular Biology when I apply.

Thanks.

I had a near identical MCAT score with a far lower GPA and was accepted to UCC. So you should be ok with one of the schools.
 
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