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So, I'm 2 weeks into my orgo I class now. The huge learning curve started today. I have a solid base in my general chems, and that has helped, but today the information just started pouring in.

Besides just putting a lot of time in on this class, what else can I do to help myself along? What worked for you? What didn't? :)

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Keep a reaction book. For every reaction that you learn (and there will be many), jot down in a notebook the steps involved and the conditions.

Most importantly, do not try to make OChem all about memorization. You'll go nuts. If you understand why the reaction happens, later reactions will make much more sense.
 
Keep a reaction book. For every reaction that you learn (and there will be many), jot down in a notebook the steps involved and the conditions.

Most importantly, do not try to make OChem all about memorization. You'll go nuts. If you understand why the reaction happens, later reactions will make much more sense.

That is the best advice you will hear for not only orgo, but the MCAT as well. Start to understand concepts now, life will be easier later:thumbup:
 
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So, I'm 2 weeks into my orgo I class now. The huge learning curve started today. I have a solid base in my general chems, and that has helped, but today the information just started pouring in.

Besides just putting a lot of time in on this class, what else can I do to help myself along? What worked for you? What didn't? :)

Get a white board and practice. You may think you know how to do certain things from going over them in your head, but when it comes time to actually write it out on quizzes or exams, it does not come so easily. At least that was my experience.

Organic Chemistry was just about the worst experience ever. :(
 
Get a white board and practice. You may think you know how to do certain things from going over them in your head, but when it comes time to actually write it out on quizzes or exams, it does not come so easily. At least that was my experience.

Organic Chemistry was just about the worst experience ever. :(

i second the white board idea! i used it to practice writing out the reactions and it worked SO well. if you don't want to get a white board (i will admit that the fumes started making me a little loopy after a few hours), just using paper works...i've found that writing and rewriting the reactions was one of the best things i could do.

and i also agree that you don't want to just memorize. if you understand the reactions, you'll see that you can apply a lot of the same concepts to other reactions. it's a great feeling when it finally "clicks."
 
So, I'm 2 weeks into my orgo I class now. The huge learning curve started today. I have a solid base in my general chems, and that has helped, but today the information just started pouring in.

Besides just putting a lot of time in on this class, what else can I do to help myself along? What worked for you? What didn't? :)

It helped me to group the reactions together in different ways. For example, make a list of all the possible ways you can make an alcohol, a carboxylic acid, etc. Then do the inverse and make a list of all the possible products (and the mechanisms) you can obtain from an alcohol, a carboxylic acid, etc. :D
 
Only tip that I can give is study. And DO NOT MEMORIZE the reactions. REASON THROUGH THEM. You will never understand it if you simply try and memorize everything. Instead look at the trends of each of the atoms in play and try and understand why what is happening is happening. If you have any questions about any specifics PM me and ill give you my email. You can ask whatever to me via email and I will respond.
 
Remember, + attracts -, and vice versa.

You may think this is silly advice, but it's the best (and only, if you understand the concepts, like others are telling you) advice you'll need. You can get away with not memorizing LOTS of material if you just remember that + attracts -, and vice-versa.

Oh yeah, and stereochemistry sucks. Make sure that you do those problems twice on your exams.
 
In my very first ochem class a model kit helped me visualize chair flips and stereochemisty. Eventually you won't need it anymore, but it was a good aid.

I also support writing out the mechanism into your own notes, it's much better than staring at a book trying to memorize.
 
Definitely do all of the practice problems, we used Bruice and doing the problems in the practice manual helped a ton. Grab a buddy and just go over them, don't give up until you've figured out your mistakes. I always made a reaction sheet with all the reactions drawn out on it and what is different about each nucleophile/electrophile/catalyst and what they do or whatever other reactants that are important to that part of the class. Try to analyze what you're doing in lab more than just filling in the blanks. This is one of the parts that will actually change your learning from memorizing to actually knowing.
 
We used Vollhardt and Schore; do the problems as they occur in the text. Aside from that, you've gotten a lot of good advice already, so I'll just QFT the above posts.
 
We used Vollhardt and Schore; do the problems as they occur in the text. Aside from that, you've gotten a lot of good advice already, so I'll just QFT the above posts.

hey same here- and it was a great text.

Advice- STUDY HARD- write out mechanisms over and over again.... and use different colors for elect/nuclo philes, electron movement., etc :laugh:

glck!

PG
 
Become one with the electrons. Feel them being pulled to the electron thirsty oxygens and repelled from the hydrogens.
 
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Simplify the reactions down to concepts, I like to focus on this...

Start each mechanism by IDENTIFYING THE ELECTROPHILE/NUCLEOPHILE. DESIDE WHERE IT IS ATTACKING. DRAW ARROWS.

Split things into categories and learn them in groups using flow charts. For example, learn all the reactions on ketones by putting acetone in the center of the page and drawing 10-15 arrows out from it for each type of ketone reaction.

Another thing, when it comes time to learn spectroscopy, please for god sakes learn it. I can't tell you how many people struggled in lab and on the O-Chem final because they couldn't do Proton NMR. PROTON NMR IS IMPORTANT, the MRI MACHINE IS BASED ON THIS.

Just learn it, love it, do it.
 
I've heard good things about "Organic Chemistry as a second language."
 
-If your text has practice problems spaced throughout the chapter, read the whole thing first, then go back and do the problems. This way, you'll pretty much do the reading twice.

-O.Chem A is much more conceptual than O.Chem B. Your model kit is your best friend. I made it my mission to sit down and play with it for every chapter, even when it seemed like it was overkill. It will really help you understand stereochemistry, learn chair conformations, etc.

-As much as everyone says not to memorize reactions, the vast majority of studying in O.Chem B will be memorization. To me, this would be like saying Anatomy is conceptual and not just memorization. No, it involves both. There are tons of different reactions and various reactants you can use to acheive them. Most of them are specific, Ie: you know it is acid catalyzed, base-cat., etc.... but that "conceptual" knowledge won't help you remember that it first requires BH3:THF followed by H2O2 in NaOH....that sort of thing

-Making flashcards (like making a "reaction book" as an above poster said) will really help you keep a record of the material. This will make your final exam a million times easier if you have a set a flashcards made for each chapter. In Ochem B, most of the chapters will be only mechanisms/reactions and thus going back to re-read them after having your flashcards made is completely useless. Again, this will save you 700 pages of review each semester for the Final.

-The other good thing about flashcards is they force you to have a superior knowledge of the material. Simply, you can shuffle them up. If you need a page that says "The twelve ways to make an aldehyde" in order to remember them all, you're going to have a very tough time with synthesis problems where you have to link like 5 or 6 reactions in a row (ie: Kind of like seeing a chessboard before and after a game and being able to "see" all the steps in between). Flashcards help you study for recal and not recognition, which is good. This does not mean it is a waste to make flowcharts and stuff as mentioned above, I just wouldn't use this as my only study method.

-Mechanisms are important to understand, but again, if you have to stop and think about a mechanism to get the product of a reaction, you'll never have time to finish a test (I had like 3 or 4 pages of "give just the product" type questions on every test). "Lasso" chemistry- knowing that X and Y come together to make Z, is just as important as the mechanism itself.

-Only study the mechanisms that are gone over in class. Mechanisms are so specific, especially when you start getting into debates over which steps are concerted or not, that it is very doubtful any professor will test your knowledge of a full-page mechanism without having shown you the answer at least once in class. Thus, use your notes to study mechanisms. Not only will it eliminate un-needed studying, but sometimes/often the professor's ideas will differ slightly/not-so-slightly from the book.

I could keep going, but I'll stop here ;)

Good luck :luck:
 
I second some of the advice given here. What helped me (and I didn't really do this 1st semester, but it really helped me 2nd semester) was writing out mechanisms on paper a bunch of times until I knew them really well. Also using flashcards and thinking in terms of "how do I know how to make this functional group" and "what can I make from this functional group."

Also it is important to keep on top of the reading so that when a test comes around you aren't scrambling to finish the reading/problems and can devote more time to review. Good luck :)
 
I second some of the advice given here. What helped me (and I didn't really do this 1st semester, but it really helped me 2nd semester) was writing out mechanisms on paper a bunch of times until I knew them really well. Also using flashcards and thinking in terms of "how do I know how to make this functional group" and "what can I make from this functional group."

Also it is important to keep on top of the reading so that when a test comes around you aren't scrambling to finish the reading/problems and can devote more time to review. Good luck :)

Totally agree :thumbup: If you can start thinking, "oh, this flashcard can take me to this product, this to this one, this to this one, and i'll end up with this product" then you're set for synthesis questions.
 
So, I'm 2 weeks into my orgo I class now. The huge learning curve started today. I have a solid base in my general chems, and that has helped, but today the information just started pouring in.

Besides just putting a lot of time in on this class, what else can I do to help myself along? What worked for you? What didn't? :)

study a lot...
 
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write out reaction mechanisms. what i found really helpful was writing reactants on one side of notecard and the products on the other. that way, you can test yourself reactants--->products and vice versa. Invaluable for questions on exams that require reverse synthesis.
 
Instead of memorizing all the reactions, know the characterisitics of particular classes of compounds, i.e. hydroxyl on alcohols, C=O on carbonyl, etc. Knowing those will help you figure out the pathway for a reacion.
 
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