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[justdoit31]

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POST-MATCH ROLL CALL!!!

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[dazed1980]

Did everyone register on facebook? we're up 35members from 23 after last nite. We'll know each other before first day of class.

 

[dazed1980]

I found this video on the facebook Texas tech class of 2012 and had to share.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y8G4s1yxi0

 

[teacherman]

Anyone know when our status will change on the Tech website or if they will send us a letter/email?

 

[TX_NFS]

POST-MATCH ROLL CALL!!!

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2. tigerLSU
3.teacherman
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[maggie08]

hey anyone know when white-coat ceremony will be?

my parents are planning to go overseas in july, and so they've been bugging me hardcore to figure out when they need to be back here!

 

[TX_NFS]

hey anyone know when white-coat ceremony will be?

July 31st, according to http://www.ttuhsc.edu/som/events.aspx

 

[maggie08]

July 31st, according to http://www.ttuhsc.edu/som/events.aspx

awesome!!! thanks!!!

 

[yogatexas]

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[zolaash]

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[Habeed]

I must BEG you, fellow classmates, to go along with setting up a scribe service.

PLEASE don't refuse, even if it doesn't help you as much. Some of us, such as myself, learn vastly better and faster by reading rather than listening. Plus, when I read, I can sort of highlight and cross off things as I learn them, making SURE that I know everything. When I listen to something, I can easily glaze off and miss crucial details.

As I understand it, the cost would be cheap and it would require that you transcribe one lecture once or twice a semester, by listening to the recording and typing what was said.

Some classes decide to do it, and some don't, and I know I will perform better if our class is one of the former.

 

[Habeed]

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9. Habeed

 

[maggie08]

I must BEG you, fellow classmates, to go along with setting up a scribe service.

PLEASE don't refuse, even if it doesn't help you as much. Some of us, such as myself, learn vastly better and faster by reading rather than listening. Plus, when I read, I can sort of highlight and cross off things as I learn them, making SURE that I know everything. When I listen to something, I can easily glaze off and miss crucial details.

As I understand it, the cost would be cheap and it would require that you transcribe one lecture once or twice a semester, by listening to the recording and typing what was said.

Some classes decide to do it, and some don't, and I know I will perform better if our class is one of the former.

completely agreed. but i'm only board for a 'word for word' scribe service!!! (none of this outline/bulleted list of what's important... imo that would be pointless... just my $0.02)

i'd be more than happy to scribe a more than a few time a semester--i just don't want to be in charge of setting it up!

 

[Habeed]

Same here, I am willing to do a "double share" of scribing if that's what it takes to get it done. Right, I want word for word as well...an 'outline' is no better than reading the lecture syllabus/notes. You need it word for word in order to be certain you didn't miss anything. Also, it is better than going to class, at least for me. When reading, I can rip right through the 'filler' present in a typical professor's lecture, and get an hour lecture done in under 30 minutes.

 

[maggie08]

Same here, I am willing to do a "double share" of scribing if that's what it takes to get it done. Right, I want word for word as well...an 'outline' is no better than reading the lecture syllabus/notes. You need it word for word in order to be certain you didn't miss anything. Also, it is better than going to class, at least for me. When reading, I can rip right through the 'filler' present in a typical professor's lecture, and get an hour lecture done in under 30 minutes.

AHHHHH!!!! did you hack my brain? go on admit it. that is EXACTLY how i feel. 👍👍👍😀

 

[Habeed]

Maggie, are you single? 😀

 

[maggie08]

Maggie, are you single? 😀

haha, shameless are we? that's awesome, you rock!!!

yes, i'm single--but sorry, no hookin up with this lil' lady! gotta make sure i can handle med school first! 😀

 

[justdoit31]

I am all for a scribe service- I really hope it will be large enough to where we will only scribe a few times a semester but am in for however much it takes. I am not a huge lecture attender (usually hit up around 50% of classes) so the scribe stuff would be amazing!

I can't wait to meet everyone 🙂

 

[xx216xx]

haha, shameless are we? that's awesome, you rock!!!

yes, i'm single--but sorry, no hookin up with this lil' lady! gotta make sure i can handle med school first! 😀

That's why you hook up during orientation week.

 

[justdoit31]

That's why you hook up during orientation week.

I am with Maggie- I am single and enjoying it for awhile... maybe I will consider dating after first block 😉

 

[tigerLSU]

I guess I'm the odd one out.. I'm lost if I miss class...

 

[teacherman]

I guess I'm the odd one out.. I'm lost if I miss class...

I'll be there with you. I'm the same way. Where are you working now Tiger? When are you planning to "retire" before starting school?

 

[tigerLSU]

I'll be there with you. I'm the same way. Where are you working now Tiger? When are you planning to "retire" before starting school?

I'm a software developer on the north side of town at the moment. I'm still figuring out when I'm going to stop before I move, but it's a rough decision because I make good money. I'm tentatively planning on stopping mid-to-late June and running out my vacation time after I stop working so I can score 2 more weeks of pay.

 

[Habeed]

that's awesome, you rock!!!

See, this is why getting into medical school improves your sex life. Before I got in (aka 2 days ago), had I made such a proposal on an internet forum I would not receive anything but contempt.

But now you're taking me seriously, and even offering a time scale "Maybe after the first block". Still, I'm sure when I actually get to Texas, some d-bag former fratboys who snuck into Tech Med school will steal all the chicks...

 

[justdoit31]

See, this is why getting into medical school improves your sex life. Before I got in (aka 2 days ago), had I made such a proposal on an internet forum I would not receive anything but contempt.

But now you're taking me seriously, and even offering a time scale "Maybe after the first block". Still, I'm sure when I actually get to Texas, some d-bag former fratboys who snuck into Tech Med school will steal all the chicks...

I have never been a frat boy fan they are too full of themselves- that might disqualify surgeons too...jk... and my time scale is for dating which I consider very different that just sex- I am not a NSA type of a girl either- consider me the traditional West Texas girl next door haha

 

[Habeed]

just sex

I like where this is going...


But on a more serious note, I've been friends zoned by girls who had the time to spend 10 hours with me a week. I'd much rather find a girl who "didn't have time" to go on a date but could do a little "just sex".

 

[aggie08]

Hi Classmates! :c)

 

[xx216xx]

See, this is why getting into medical school improves your sex life. Before I got in (aka 2 days ago), had I made such a proposal on an internet forum I would not receive anything but contempt.

But now you're taking me seriously, and even offering a time scale "Maybe after the first block". Still, I'm sure when I actually get to Texas, some d-bag former fratboys who snuck into Tech Med school will steal all the chicks...

you do realize you sound like a douche bag by making that statement don't you?

But now you're taking me seriously

you can't be serious

 

[Habeed]

Guilty as charged. I am a douche-bag.

And I was kidding. Mostly.

 

[justdoit31]

I like where this is going...


But on a more serious note, I've been friends zoned by girls who had the time to spend 10 hours with me a week. I'd much rather find a girl who "didn't have time" to go on a date but could do a little "just sex".

Ok I'm the opposite then cuz I want to go on the date and don't do the "just sex" thing- call me conservative but I am still a firm believer in guys with chivalry and pursuing the girl

 

[utjsm08]

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[utjsm08]

Yes, I totally agree that we should get scribes going. Hopefully we can establish some kind of schedule before classes begin.

 

[justdoit31]

So does anyone have a recorder to use for the scribe service or do you think it would be wise to pull money and purchase one?

 

[Habeed]

Well, depends on if we want video recorded or not. And if they would allow us to record video and distribute it to scribe service subscribers.

I'm sure dozens of us have some kind of audio recorder, I do.

As for the money thing...my gut feel is that we should charge a membership fee. If a member did not scribe a lecture by the deadline, some of that money would be used to pay a 'substitute'. And if a member made every deadline, they would get the fee waived for the following semester.

Since committing money to something tends to make people committ more to an idea.

On the OTHER hand, I read about a social experiment where a day care tried charging parents if they were late. They found that parents were late MORE often, because they felt less guilty about being late to pick up their kids since they were paying extra for the service.

Am not sure, really. Either way, the fee would be cheap : like $20 a person.

30 seconds of glancing at online reviews suggests we could get a camera like this one : http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-cam...-6500_7-32775808.html?tag=centerColumnArea2.0 .

I hate cheap cameras, and if the video were properly handled from a more expensive camera like this one, then the quality would be good enough that you could actually read the lecture slides. It would be about $15 a person if we had 75 members.

We'd host the videos somewhere like Itunes U, and the quality would be HD, similar to youtube HD.

 

[justdoit31]

Well, depends on if we want video recorded or not. And if they would allow us to record video and distribute it to scribe service subscribers.

I'm sure dozens of us have some kind of audio recorder, I do.

As for the money thing...my gut feel is that we should charge a membership fee. If a member did not scribe a lecture by the deadline, some of that money would be used to pay a 'substitute'. And if a member made every deadline, they would get the fee waived for the following semester.

Since committing money to something tends to make people committ more to an idea.

On the OTHER hand, I read about a social experiment where a day care tried charging parents if they were late. They found that parents were late MORE often, because they felt less guilty about being late to pick up their kids since they were paying extra for the service.

Am not sure, really. Either way, the fee would be cheap : like $20 a person.

30 seconds of glancing at online reviews suggests we could get a camera like this one : http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-cam...-6500_7-32775808.html?tag=centerColumnArea2.0 .

I hate cheap cameras, and if the video were properly handled from a more expensive camera like this one, then the quality would be good enough that you could actually read the lecture slides. It would be about $15 a person if we had 75 members.

We'd host the videos somewhere like Itunes U, and the quality would be HD, similar to youtube HD.

I am pretty sure the school rules for scribing was that the audio/video itself is not distributed and is only used for the individual typing it up into notes so we couldn't have video hosted...

I am sure we can get advice from the current students and make it up- I don't have an audio recording device but I will be getting a new laptop which could have a recorder or just buy one if we go with that.

 

[maggie08]

On the OTHER hand, I read about a social experiment where a day care tried charging parents if they were late. They found that parents were late MORE often, because they felt less guilty about being late to pick up their kids since they were paying extra for the service.

haha, have you been reading freakonomics?!? (wow, we're nerds... and i just ratted us both out for being way lame 😳 )

yeah, i like wise have an audio recorder... i'd actually like to get some more use out of it, because i'm a sucker that can be talked into anything and some dude at radioshack convinced me that i absolutely needed this uber-high tech digital 'conference' room (???... high resolution or something?) audio recorder that was crazy expensive with a bunch of features i don't know how to use...

However, that said, if any of the lecturers allow video recording, that might be a lot better... dunno?

 

[Habeed]

Only worth the investment in video if all lecturers allow it.

 

[TX_NFS]

Speaking of Freaky Economics (I read the book a year or so ago and remember that 'case study' too!), is anyone else applying or thinking about the MD/MBA program? The student I stayed with before my interview was in it, so that sort of made me aware and curious about it... though to be frank, I am more interested in an MPH (which I don't think Tech offers). I've looked at the MBA forums here but thought I would see if anyone else had thoughts about it.


For the scribe service, sounds like a good idea but I wonder how much coordination (i.e. work) that would take to ensure everything goes smoothly. I for one don't see the need for video if we are already provided powerpoint slides / scribed notes with audio. Of course, I have no idea if things like a whiteboard or a pointer are used much...

 

[Habeed]

Yes, it'll take work to run the scribe service. But consider the benefits : a large number of your class mates will know you well, and if the service runs smoothly, they will appreciate your efforts.

The real reason this counts is that this is something you can put down for showing 'leadership' when it comes time to compete for AOA membership. It's like a 2 fer : running the scribe service, you'll ensure you have the best access possible to the lecture content, boosting your grades, and you'll also rack up invaluable 'brownie points' that you can put on your CV.

It's the same logic that causes people to compete for various leadership spots in student organizations, even when they aren't fun and detract from your study time.

As for the MBA : I don't see it meshing with my career goals, but I am curious as to what benefits it offers? The degree won't help you match a competitive residency, and it is probably overkill for the purposes of managing a small practice. If I needed more business skills, I would just read a book on it or take classes in only what I needed, not get an MBA.

Degrees unlock doors. But what doors does an MBA unlock that would be barred to you without an MBA? Those various venture capital and other jobs that are mentioned in the Business of Medicine forums don't involve patient care. And, patient care is what an M.D. mostly teaches you to do. If you want to wear a suit and make a stack of money, I would think getting a spot in a top 10 MBA program would probably give a far better return on investment than an MD/MBA, with the MBA from a program that is not top 10.

The same logic for the JD/MBA : if you are going to be a doctor doing clinical care, the JD is worthless. If you want to be a courtroom titan that either defends doctors or sues them for millions, you would probably do better by going to a top 14 law school and getting courtroom experience by working at an elite law firm. I would suspect that better courtroom skill would more than compensate for not getting to say you are an MD to the jury in court.

And again, return on investment. If you are involved in medmal, the purpose of your job is to make money change hands. Every dollar you move or prevent from moving, the more you make. And you would probably make more money over your career if you had 4 more years in the courtroom rather than sitting in med school.

I'm here because I think that fixing patients will be a rewarding experience. I want to think that it will feel a lot more satisfying to straight up save someone's life than it will be to work some business deal that results in a fat bonus. The only business knowledge I'm interested in is how to set things up so that I have the best possible staff and equipment to fix said patients with and still make a living.

 

[TX_NFS]

Thanks for the various tidbits, Habeed. I suppose the main reason why an MBA interests me in the slightest right now is because I would consider myself pretty ignorant about business in general (still took Intro Macroeconomics though ). While it probably is overkill to get an MBA if one were planning on going into private practice or a hospital, I would still be (academically?) curious about the financial aspects that makes practicing possible in the first place. Or, to enlarge the scale, I'd be curious as to how hospital systems and the healthcare system function. From what you (and others on the MD/MBA boards) are saying though, it seems that it would be a lot of work to just 'learn' and not use it.

On the other hand, my first and only encounter with a MD/MBA (who also had an MPH!) was in the classroom, since the doctor was the professor for an elective I took in undergrad. He still chose and was able to see patients as a general practitioner a few days every week; however, he also oversaw different research projects relating to health and the economics of developing new or more convenient technologies... I think. That sort of perspective also made me wonder what sort of things one could investigate and what influences an MBA could impart. Like you said though, I also don't envision myself becoming the CEO of a healthcare company or a hospital system, so maybe the MBA is all geared towards practical applications?

In the end I see such knowledge as beneficial, and not just for those who go into management and administration "to make the big bucks". I obviously still have a lot more things to figure out, not just what an MBA can do, but whether or not the extra classes are manageable, if there are spots still open, if it makes sense to even bother with the MBA now as opposed to later in one's career, etc.



Oh, and about the scribe service, I've just been accustomed to going to most, if not all of my classes, which is why I may be having a hard time envisioning its worth. However, if I end up excusing myself from many classes in med school, I certainly would not mind participating in the service. 😀

 

[Habeed]

I'm "interested" in lots of things. And when I'm interested, I read a book on it. Perhaps if the business world required a vast amount of 'base knowledge' to understand, it would make sense to get a degree in order to satisfy your curiosity. (aka if you wanted to understand quantum mechanics or how light works)

But it doesn't take that much knowledge, or MBAs wouldn't take 1-2 years.

So the only reason to do it is if it unlocks the door to something you couldn't otherwise get.

So, I think we both agree the MBA is useless for a doctor that is trying to practice medicine more efficiently. Pure economics : if the marginal benefit of the MBA versus consulting an MBA or reading a book let the doctor make his practice a few thousand bucks a year more efficient, but caused him to match a residency that paid less or an extra year, it would not be cost effective.

It is worthless for getting a better residency. It most likely hurts your chances, by costing you time that could have gone to boosting your grades and board scores.

And, if you try to use it in the business world, you are really going for the MBA track jobs. Your MD is only an 'extra' that makes you more attractive for some jobs, but by no means are you actually heavily utilizing your medical knowledge. And as they point out on the forums, if you are going to be an MBA, you really need pedigree : an MBA from a top 5 or top 10 business school.

So the only thing that even makes sense is either to apply to one of those business schools (I suppose you could apply during med school and drop out if you got in to a top business school even though that would be a douche thing to do) or to suck it up and focus on becoming an MD who is good at what he does.

I, for one, have basically 0 chance of getting into a top 5 business school. It looks like from your MDApps profile that you might. Well, no, 3.64 from UH, which is not prestigious...I wouldn't want to be applying to Harvard B-school with that. (I also went to UH btw)

Bummer you didn't match higher, but at least it makes me feel better about matching to Tech with my stats, which are overall lower than yours. (36Q MCAT, 3.4 GPA)

 

[maggie08]

I'm "interested" in lots of things. And when I'm interested, I read a book on it. Perhaps if the business world required a vast amount of 'base knowledge' to understand, it would make sense to get a degree in order to satisfy your curiosity. (aka if you wanted to understand quantum mechanics or how light works)

But it doesn't take that much knowledge, or MBAs wouldn't take 1-2 years.

So the only reason to do it is if it unlocks the door to something you couldn't otherwise get.

So, I think we both agree the MBA is useless for a doctor that is trying to practice medicine more efficiently. Pure economics : if the marginal benefit of the MBA versus consulting an MBA or reading a book let the doctor make his practice a few thousand bucks a year more efficient, but caused him to match a residency that paid less or an extra year, it would not be cost effective.

It is worthless for getting a better residency. It most likely hurts your chances, by costing you time that could have gone to boosting your grades and board scores.

And, if you try to use it in the business world, you are really going for the MBA track jobs. Your MD is only an 'extra' that makes you more attractive for some jobs, but by no means are you actually heavily utilizing your medical knowledge. And as they point out on the forums, if you are going to be an MBA, you really need pedigree : an MBA from a top 5 or top 10 business school.

So the only thing that even makes sense is either to apply to one of those business schools (I suppose you could apply during med school and drop out if you got in to a top business school even though that would be a douche thing to do) or to suck it up and focus on becoming an MD who is good at what he does.

I, for one, have basically 0 chance of getting into a top 5 business school. It looks like from your MDApps profile that you might. Well, no, 3.64 from UH, which is not prestigious...I wouldn't want to be applying to Harvard B-school with that. (I also went to UH btw)

Bummer you didn't match higher, but at least it makes me feel better about matching to Tech with my stats, which are overall lower than yours. (36Q MCAT, 3.4 GPA)

hey pal, why are you trying so hard to talk him out of an MBA??? what difference does it make to you??? 🙂

if it was entirely "worthless", why do thousands of people pursue it each cycle, and why does it seem like nearly every school has a program? 🙂

maybe it wasn't your intention when you typed it, but the last couple of paragraphs are entirely unnecessary and come across as pretty insulting. 🙂

i don't want to make any enemies in our class, and by jumping in here i might be digging my own grave--but seriously, friend, don't be hatin' and talkin' peeps outta da shizzle that wanna take on! 😎

 

[tigerLSU]

So I assume our Merlin status should change soon?

I can't wait to get my first packet in the mail from a medical school that isn't the one where they can tell me everything I need to know on one page!

 

[AgShan08]

Ya'll can count me in for helping put together the scribe service. I'm a class person so i'll be there anyway, but I imagine that having written notes for every class to be able to reference could only help. My vote is not charging money though, unless the money is more like a deposit that you get back at the end of the semester if you uphold your assigned "scribe" days.

I think we have a LOT of time to plan this though so we really shouldn't worry about it yet. Go have fun and enjoy the next few months of freedom

Oh and TX_NFS go with your gut, only you know what the best track for yourself is. And since you were smart enough to get into medical school i'm going to assume you are smart enough to research your options and choose what is best for you. 😉

 

[xx216xx]

Ya'll can count me in for helping put together the scribe service. I'm a class person so i'll be there anyway, but I imagine that having written notes for every class to be able to reference could only help. My vote is not charging money though, unless the money is more like a deposit that you get back at the end of the semester if you uphold your assigned "scribe" days.

I think we have a LOT of time to plan this though so we really shouldn't worry about it yet. Go have fun and enjoy the next few months of freedom

Oh and TX_NFS go with your gut, only you know what the best track for yourself is. And since you were smart enough to get into medical school i'm going to assume you are smart enough to research your options and choose what is best for you. 😉

I'd agree that this is the better route. Most people aren't going to want to pay to be apart of a scribe service, and like Habeeb noted, paying a fee for instances where someone doesn't want to scribe is only incentive for not scribing. The way we do it is if someone doesn't scribe then they are fined. It works well, we've only had a couple lectures so far that weren't scribed and those were due to forgetting or recording mishaps. Also, if you don't want to scribe you can pay someone to scribe for you. Right now they are going for about $20, so if you don't want to scribe you can pay not to. That way those who are apart of the scribes and are willing to type everything out aren't charged any kind of fee for being a member and can make some money if they scribe for others.

As far as the MBA program goes, I'd really only do it if you are interested in healthcare management because for obvious reasons that's what you're going to be taught. I live with an MD/MBA and am friends with about 7 others and about 3/7 do nothing but b*tch about it. Again, like Habeeb mentioned, it really is a time killer. You will have class that starts this May/June, about a month before you start med school. The tests from the that summer coincide with about the first week of med classes so when everyone else is just starting you are having to study for your MBA tests. You will then have business class every wed afternoon from about 5 or 6 to 8. You will also have projects to do and additional tests throughout the semester. Oh, and don't forget you're also studying for med school. Then, during your first summer when everyone else is doing research/partying/preceptoring (I know, not a word) you will be taking business classes everyday and pretty much all day as you shadow people in the business world and do reports on their cost effectiveness.

So, if you are really interested in managing a big hospital or the like then go for it; but if you're wanting to do it just to gain some business savvy I say go pick up a book. But again it's your choice and I'm just showing one side of the card. The other guys might think it's just great.

 

[Habeed]

if it was entirely "worthless", why do thousands of people pursue it each cycle, and why does it seem like nearly every school has a program? 🙂

maybe it wasn't your intention when you typed it, but the last couple of paragraphs are entirely unnecessary and come across as pretty insulting. 🙂

The first question : there are lots of useless degrees that people can pursue. I'm arguing that in nearly all cases, an MBA probably is not helpful for someone who also earns an MD.

I didn't mean to be insulting, I was actually surprised at the incredible elitism in the business world. There's absolutely no good reason that only top 5 or 10 business school graduates make the big bucks. And a 3.64 from UH is excellent performance...but unfortunately, for the Ivy league adcoms of a top 5 B-school...probably wouldn't even pique their interest. Because of the lack of overpriced "Ivy" in the name of the school, not because a 3.64 is bad.

The funny part is : all those fratboys in college with the 2.0s? Before I knew about this MBA filter, I always thought those guys were going to go on to make the big bucks. But, except for the ones who inherit money, it doesn't look that way.

 

[JYD523]

Speaking of Freaky Economics (I read the book a year or so ago and remember that 'case study' too!), is anyone else applying or thinking about the MD/MBA program? The student I stayed with before my interview was in it, so that sort of made me aware and curious about it... though to be frank, I am more interested in an MPH (which I don't think Tech offers). I've looked at the MBA forums here but thought I would see if anyone else had thoughts about it.


For the scribe service, sounds like a good idea but I wonder how much coordination (i.e. work) that would take to ensure everything goes smoothly. I for one don't see the need for video if we are already provided powerpoint slides / scribed notes with audio. Of course, I have no idea if things like a whiteboard or a pointer are used much...

I'm in the MD/MBA program... I have my BA in Economics with a business emphasis, so it looked interesting to me. It starts during the summer though.

 

[TX_NFS]

Thanks again for the responses, everyone. The added schedule sound like a downer.

JYD523 - if you don't mind my asking, are you planning on practicing or going into management right away? Or what other benefits are you hoping to get from the program?

 

[tigerLSU]

The funny part is : all those fratboys in college with the 2.0s? Before I knew about this MBA filter, I always thought those guys were going to go on to make the big bucks. But, except for the ones who inherit money, it doesn't look that way.

What is it with you and frat boys? 🙄

 

[JYD523]

Thanks again for the responses, everyone. The added schedule sound like a downer.

JYD523 - if you don't mind my asking, are you planning on practicing or going into management right away? Or what other benefits are you hoping to get from the program?

I'm planning on practicing. I believe that we're going through a period where understanding the organization in health-care is becoming increasingly important to doctors. I don't necessarily think that the MBA will be advantageous in matching into a more preferred residency program. For now, I'm in it for the sake of knowledge. I suppose... if in the future I do consider a position that requires administrative skills, the MBA may be of slight influence.