The Mayo's

[JoBlo]

Anyone have any thoughts on how the different Mayo programs compare to each other. Mayo-Rochester vs Mayo-Jacksonville vs Mayo-Scottsdale?

Opinions welcomed

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[Miami_med]

It's colder in Rochester.😀

 

[mitchigan]

so far..
Rochester
vanderbilt
U of C
U of Michigan
Yale
Georgetown
UMASS
RUSH
Case Western/RB&C
Indiana
Brown
Cincinnati

Still haven't heard from UNC, Duke, Harvard, UCSD, UCLA

Are there any future primary care physicians out here? I'm still trying to justify a decision to go into med-peds over family practice. Am I doing the right thing?

 

[DPD]

bump

 

[Clemson Doc]

so far..
Rochester
vanderbilt
U of C
U of Michigan
Yale
Georgetown
UMASS
RUSH
Case Western/RB&C
Indiana
Brown
Cincinnati

Still haven't heard from UNC, Duke, Harvard, UCSD, UCLA

Are there any future primary care physicians out here? I'm still trying to justify a decision to go into med-peds over family practice. Am I doing the right thing?

That is a really impressive interview list! Do you mind sharing your stats? School, GPA, clinical grades, board scores, etc.?

 

[dr niceguy]

Anyone have any thoughts on how the different Mayo programs compare to each other. Mayo-Rochester vs Mayo-Jacksonville vs Mayo-Scottsdale?

Opinions welcomed

The chief from my home institution's prgoram matched in GI up at Mayo (in Minnesota) last year. From what I understand, quite an experience- amazing cases, world reknown faculty etc etc. Apparently it's a bit stodgy- no white coats, everyone is required to wear suits, and it is the Mayo so the faculty may not be as approachable.

In terms of residency, he offered an interesting view- through the grapevine mind you- programs like Mayo (or Cleveland Clinic) are so heavily oriented around their subspeciality fellowships that the residents lose out on case management. You'll probably see interesting things, but not necessairly manage them. Of course, the same case can be made for all the other top programs, but it seemed particularly highlighted at a center like Mayo- which isn't in a huge city so you lose out on a quality inpatient experience, but people with problems come because they know they'll get great subspecialty care.

Just a humble man's opinion. I didn't apply there... mostly because I don't want to be in South Canada😎

 

[dadof2]

I am a current Mayo Rochester resident. I can tell you, you see an amazing array of cases. You see lots of bread and butter (CHF, COPD, CAP GI bleed) in addition to the strange or rare cases (Sweet's syndrome, dermatomyositis, mastocytosis, phagohemolytitic syndrome..... I have seen these cases during the last 3 months) and the list goes on.

During the first year, fellows are no where to be seen unless you consult a sub specialty and even then the second year resident sees the case writes his note and gives recs then the case is staffed with the subspecialty staff and fellow. The first year is intern ran the second is PGY2 ran with guidance of course. The medical ICU is a first year rotation and that is ran by the intern and PGY2 and Fellow (mostly PGY2 and Fellow)

Once recs have been given the primary team takes over (they write all the orders on thier patients) the consult service will be there for questions and will often follow along, but the primary team are the ones that are in charge.

I can tell you that the perception that Mayo is fellow ran is absolutely wrong

 

[JoBlo]

I am a current Mayo Rochester resident. I can tell you, you see an amazing array of cases. You see lots of bread and butter (CHF, COPD, CAP GI bleed) in addition to the strange or rare cases (Sweet's syndrome, dermatomyositis, mastocytosis, phagohemolytitic syndrome..... I have seen these cases during the last 3 months) and the list goes on.

During the first year, fellows are no where to be seen unless you consult a sub specialty and even then the second year resident sees the case writes his note and gives recs then the case is staffed with the subspecialty staff and fellow. The first year is intern ran the second is PGY2 ran with guidance of course. The medical ICU is a first year rotation and that is ran by the intern and PGY2 and Fellow (mostly PGY2 and Fellow)

Once recs have been given the primary team takes over (they write all the orders on thier patients) the consult service will be there for questions and will often follow along, but the primary team are the ones that are in charge.

I can tell you that the perception that Mayo is fellow ran is absolutely wrong

Thanks for the insight. How do you feel the Rochester program compares to the Florida and and Arizona campuses? I've got interviews at all three campuses and will be looking to see is the quality at the non-Rochester programs is as good as the Rochester campus... If they are... well, sunny Florida isn't a bad place to be 🙂

 

[Mossjoh]

I'm a Mayo Jacksonville first year resident, and I love it here! Its November, and 80 degrees. You can't say that about Rochester.

 

[mcindoe]

Thanks for the insight. How do you feel the Rochester program compares to the Florida and and Arizona campuses? I've got interviews at all three campuses and will be looking to see is the quality at the non-Rochester programs is as good as the Rochester campus... If they are... well, sunny Florida isn't a bad place to be 🙂

while i don't know much about any of the mayo programs (other than i was rejected from the Rochester one today), all i can say is don't underestimate the location of where you do your training when deciding where you want to be. unless you have family nearby, i would imagine rochester is a very cold and lonely place to be, and it's not the most easily accessible place to be. there's an airport, but only 2 airlines fly there and i'm sure it ain't cheap, and the closest "big" airport is Minneapolis/St. Paul which is 80 miles away. This isn't so much a concern for you cause as a resident you won't be traveling that much, but i can't imagine my friends and family being eager to visit when it's a hassle or expensive.

i did apply to the scottsdale program, which if invited i'd be more willing to consider because it's easy to get to, the weather is great most of the time, and the quality of life is probably better. i imagine the same goes for the FL program as well. you won't care about how much better the rochester campus is if you're unhappy and lonely being there.

congrats on the invites though!

 

[imm2007]

I'm a Mayo Jacksonville first year resident, and I love it here! Its November, and 80 degrees. You can't say that about Rochester.

Can you comment on fellowship matches, specifically into cards? Number in last 3 years, where they went, etc. Thanks.

 

[Mossjoh]

Shoot....thats asking me a lot man! I have no idea.....contact the program coordinator for that info. I know they do pretty well though

 

[msu_scutmonkey]

while i don't know much about any of the mayo programs (other than i was rejected from the Rochester one today), all i can say is don't underestimate the location of where you do your training when deciding where you want to be. unless you have family nearby, i would imagine rochester is a very cold and lonely place to be, and it's not the most easily accessible place to be. there's an airport, but only 2 airlines fly there and i'm sure it ain't cheap, and the closest "big" airport is Minneapolis/St. Paul which is 80 miles away. This isn't so much a concern for you cause as a resident you won't be traveling that much, but i can't imagine my friends and family being eager to visit when it's a hassle or expensive.

i did apply to the scottsdale program, which if invited i'd be more willing to consider because it's easy to get to, the weather is great most of the time, and the quality of life is probably better. i imagine the same goes for the FL program as well. you won't care about how much better the rochester campus is if you're unhappy and lonely being there.

congrats on the invites though!

It always cracks me up when people consider Rochester to be in the middle of nowhere and as cold as the artic. Even if that was the case, it may be appealing to some. Growing up in northern michigan, the nearest "big" airport was over 300 miles away, so 80 midwestern miles isn't that bad. I guess it's all about perspective.

 

[mcindoe]

fair enough...to put it in perspective, i was born and raised in a big city with a major international airport only 20 mins away and several other airports in the vicinity....so i'm used to being able to fly nonstop to nearly any city in the US, along with many cities in Asia and Europe, without spending more then a half hour getting to the airport and without dealing with snow or weather problems. so for me, a place like rochester is the polar opposite (no pun intended) of where i come from.

 

[JoBlo]

while i don't know much about any of the mayo programs (other than i was rejected from the Rochester one today), all i can say is don't underestimate the location of where you do your training when deciding where you want to be. unless you have family nearby, i would imagine rochester is a very cold and lonely place to be, and it's not the most easily accessible place to be. there's an airport, but only 2 airlines fly there and i'm sure it ain't cheap, and the closest "big" airport is Minneapolis/St. Paul which is 80 miles away. This isn't so much a concern for you cause as a resident you won't be traveling that much, but i can't imagine my friends and family being eager to visit when it's a hassle or expensive.

i did apply to the scottsdale program, which if invited i'd be more willing to consider because it's easy to get to, the weather is great most of the time, and the quality of life is probably better. i imagine the same goes for the FL program as well. you won't care about how much better the rochester campus is if you're unhappy and lonely being there.

congrats on the invites though!

Honestly, I don't know how I'm going to handle the cold actually. I grew up in Texas where is snows maybe... just maybe.... a few days per year. Heck I was wearing shorts up until mid-October. I'm scheduled for interviews in January so I guess I'm going to see how cold, cold is...

From what I read about the Mayo programs they all sound like great programs and I like what I read as far as their committment to evidence-based-medicine and research. The Rochester Mayo is the original iirc, so just wondering if all things were equal between the locales.

 

[JoBlo]

I am a current Mayo Rochester resident. I can tell you, you see an amazing array of cases. You see lots of bread and butter (CHF, COPD, CAP GI bleed) in addition to the strange or rare cases (Sweet's syndrome, dermatomyositis, mastocytosis, phagohemolytitic syndrome..... I have seen these cases during the last 3 months) and the list goes on.

During the first year, fellows are no where to be seen unless you consult a sub specialty and even then the second year resident sees the case writes his note and gives recs then the case is staffed with the subspecialty staff and fellow. The first year is intern ran the second is PGY2 ran with guidance of course. The medical ICU is a first year rotation and that is ran by the intern and PGY2 and Fellow (mostly PGY2 and Fellow)

Once recs have been given the primary team takes over (they write all the orders on thier patients) the consult service will be there for questions and will often follow along, but the primary team are the ones that are in charge.

I can tell you that the perception that Mayo is fellow ran is absolutely wrong

Here's a question for you dadof2... Do you feel the faculty are approachable and there to help when you feel you are struggling?

 

[dadof2]

The faculty is very approachable. I think that it must have something to do with being in the Midwest. Most of these guys are the type that would rather be wearing blue jeans to work than a suit, if you get what I am saying. Please feel free to PM me.

 

[fantasty]

Bumping...

Not a lot of discussion on the other two (also a thread this year on Scottsdale with only one reply, and it was negative).

Specifically, does anyone have a feeling on the preparation of Jax or Scottsdale for an academic IM life (specifically, doing clinical research)? I'm not AS concerned about "competitive" fellowship placements, because I'm leaning toward Rheum / ID / General IM. But, I do want to place with a good clinical education and also with solid work in clinical research (and I have family in FL and AZ).

 

[Onco]

fair enough...to put it in perspective, i was born and raised in a big city with a major international airport only 20 mins away and several other airports in the vicinity....so i'm used to being able to fly nonstop to nearly any city in the US, along with many cities in Asia and Europe, without spending more then a half hour getting to the airport and without dealing with snow or weather problems. so for me, a place like rochester is the polar opposite (no pun intended) of where i come from.

Lame!
Dude, who cares about an International airport when 92.5% (at least) of your time in next 4 years will be spent working or sleeping.

 

[chicamedica]

Lame!
Dude, who cares about an International airport when 92.5% (at least) of your time in next 4 years will be spent working or sleeping.

Actually i think it's all the more important, b/c if you want to get away or visit family during a short vacation, you dont have to spend 2 days driving to an airport 😉

 

[Onco]

Actually i think it's all the more important, b/c if you want to get away or visit family during a short vacation, you dont have to spend 2 days driving to an airport 😉

You never drive 2 days to get to an airport.. unless you live on the north pole.

Rochester has an international airport. I interviewed at Mayo a few weeks ago and flew in from NYC. There is a major airport, Minneapolis - St. Paul, located 80 miles north of Rochester and is a major hub with regularly scheduled service provided by most airlines to many international destinations.

Do your homework before you speculate.

 

[AloLove]

I second this motion, does anyone have any solid info on the scottsdale or jax mayo programs. Any current residents, interns (or even med students who have rotated!) out there who can vouch for these programs???