The Meh List

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Did you see this today in the NYTimes Magazine?


The Meh List
By Greg Veis

Not Hot. Not Not. Just Meh.

1. Small plates
2. Chelsea Clinton, reporter
3. Leave-in conditioner
4. Every other Soderbergh movie
5. Sierra Mist
6. The Australian Open
7. A veterinary degree

 

[heylodeb]

Did you see this today in the NYTimes Magazine?


The Meh List
By Greg Veis

Not Hot. Not Not. Just Meh.

1. Small plates
2. Chelsea Clinton, reporter
3. Leave-in conditioner
4. Every other Soderbergh movie
5. Sierra Mist
6. The Australian Open
7. A veterinary degree

How RUDE! ooo...I'm writing a VERY nasty letter in my head right now.

 

[LittleWiz]

What does Greg Veis know anyways? Pfft

 

[BearKat17]

Did you see this today in the NYTimes Magazine?


The Meh List
By Greg Veis

Not Hot. Not Not. Just Meh.

1. Small plates
2. Chelsea Clinton, reporter
3. Leave-in conditioner
4. Every other Soderbergh movie
5. Sierra Mist
6. The Australian Open
7. A veterinary degree

Someone sounds a little bitter....

 

[August West]

Never heard of him. Meh.

 

[twelvetigers]

I think he belongs on his own list, yeah?

What would go on the 'hot' list? A dentistry degree? Btchplz.

 

[Dsmoody23]

Someone should remind Greg that he works in an obsolete, dying industry.

Not much more "Meh" than print journalism, especially when a formerly iconic paper like the NYT is wasting page space on something that could pass for the facebook status of a teenage girl.

 

[Wubbles]

That seems completely randomly thrown in there. Any explanation for these or anything?

 

[psilovethomas]

For once, I like DS's post...

I tried to google this, and it lead me to the page where this "Meh list" is posted, and it has changed. Maybe it changes everyday? Anyways, stupid.

 

[lostbunny]

He's probably pissed off because:

He got rejected every time he applied

He got dumped by a girl who was a vet

She's way out of his league

She is now dating a new guy who's a vet

This new guy is way hotter then he is

And he knows it

 

[BearKat17]

He's probably pissed off because:

He got rejected every time he applied

He got dumped by a girl who was a vet

She's way out of his league

She is now dating a new guy who's a vet

This new guy is way hotter then he is

And he knows it

👍

That's what I'm thinking...

 

[Dsmoody23]

For once, I like DS's post...

Thanks, Pookie.

 

[psilovethomas]

srsly....

 

[Dsmoody23]

srsly....

 

[Trematode]

I personally think it should be a BA rather than a veterinary degree.
90% of the BA students I know either don't know what they want to be or are too lazy to get a real degree. So BAs are meh.

 

[PetPony]

Trematode, I said something about people shouldn't go to college if they don't know what they really wanna do yet this morning. In Germany, you only go to University if you really know what you wanna do. You can't just switch your major all the time. And you go right after high school. You pretty much have to have your mind made up. Everyone else does internships, apprenticeships, shadowing etc to either figure out what they wanna do or actually learn a job while doing it. Not while reading a book about it.

I think BAs are meh, too. They'd be worth more if not everybody had one, but only the ones who know what to do with them.


But when I brought that up, people got really mad at me because they were undecided and didn't have a major yet. They thought I meant they were too stupid to go to college yet. Not what I said, but if they can't really listen, maybe they are...?

 

[ky261682]

90% of the BA students I know either don't know what they want to be or are too lazy to get a real degree. So BAs are meh.

I better be included in the 10% who aren't lazy and know what they want, Trematode. BAs are meh by themselves; if it is used as a launchpad to another degree or career then they're not bad. Still not hot, though.

 

[PetPony]

BAs are meh by themselves; if it is used as a launchpad to another degree or career then they're not bad. Still not hot, though.

Before I get in trouble again... I agree with that! If you know what you wanna do with it, I'm all for it. But if you just get one to have one and don't know what to do, then.. meh.

 

[Trematode]

It is interesting how things work over there. I was talking to someone in Scotland about their education system and it made a lot more sense then what we have going on here.

In all fairness, we are pushed to go to university or community college "to get a good job." No one ever discussed with me the differences between doing a trade vs a bachelors or discussed what formal training you need on top of a bachelors degree to get into your field of choice. If I had known my job prospects were so limited with a B.Sc., I would have did the vet tech program. Now, I am currently weighing the pros and cons about continuing to pursue getting into vet school or to do the masters/PhD route. It is stressful. I want to go back to my hometown and scream at the counselors who told me that post-secondary education = a fantastic job.

Perhaps, high school guidance counselors should go on "The Meh List" instead of a veterinary degree. .

My Current Meh List

1. high school guidance counselors
2. marijuana smokers
3. Twilight
4. cooked carrots
5. politics

Ky, your focus is Psychology. I have a lot of respect for people who seriously pursue psychology because it is an interesting field. That is what my minor is in. Plus, you knew what you wanted to do with it. Not many people know what they want to do these days. I guess it is because there are too many options out there.
I know tooooo many BAs in English or Community Studies who make 60s and have no idea what they want to do. Or they make 60s, want to teach, and ask me what the "easiest" science course is so they can fill that requirement for their B.Ed. Everyone knows that getting a teaching job with a BA is next to impossible unless you move to Nunavut or know French. Yet the classes are saturated with BAs and not enough BScs. Headdesk.

 

[lostbunny]

nvm ..

 

[Trematode]

I went off topic. Somebody post a funny meme.

 

[lostbunny]

I personally think it should be a BA rather than a veterinary degree.
90% of the BA students I know either don't know what they want to be or are too lazy to get a real degree. So BAs are meh.

Trematode, I said something about people shouldn't go to college if they don't know what they really wanna do yet this morning. In Germany, you only go to University if you really know what you wanna do. You can't just switch your major all the time. And you go right after high school. You pretty much have to have your mind made up. Everyone else does internships, apprenticeships, shadowing etc to either figure out what they wanna do or actually learn a job while doing it. Not while reading a book about it.

I think BAs are meh, too. They'd be worth more if not everybody had one, but only the ones who know what to do with them.


But when I brought that up, people got really mad at me because they were undecided and didn't have a major yet. They thought I meant they were too stupid to go to college yet. Not what I said, but if they can't really listen, maybe they are...?

No offence but meh-ing someone's choice of level of education and what they want to do with their degree is just as bad as someone meh-ing vet science.

To you a BA is ******ed, to someone else spending 4 years learning how to save a cat is ******ed.

 

[Wubbles]

 

[Trematode]

To you a BA is ******ed, to someone else spending 4 years learning how to save a cat is ******ed.

Good point. 👍.
Except, I would not use the word ******ed. Perhaps "useless".
And there are varying degrees of that. You can always put a different spin on it. Earning a BA in Psychology in order to counsel the terminally ill would not be considered "useless" to most people, just the same as a veterinarian working in a lab that tests human drugs on animals may not be considered useless. Once you decide you want to do a veterinary degree, the likelihood of it being "useless" is a lot less than a large number of degrees out there. So including a veterinary degree on whatever this list is does not make a whole lot of sense to me. My brain automatically went to "BA" students because they seem to be at the lower end of the educational hierarchy.

 

[PetPony]

I didn't say it's ******ed. I said I don't see the point of you have no clue what to do with it. Why not spend the time that you sit in class on maybe finding out what you wanna do through the options mentioned above. Not just sitting in there because you don't know what other classes to take because you have no clue what you wanna major in.

 

[CanadianHope]

That seems completely randomly thrown in there. Any explanation for these or anything?

It's a weekly blurb in the NYTimes magazine. Very random.

 

[Dsmoody23]

I didn't say it's ******ed. I said I don't see the point of you have no clue what to do with it. Why not spend the time that you sit in class on maybe finding out what you wanna do through the options mentioned above. Not just sitting in there because you don't know what other classes to take because you have no clue what you wanna major in.

Meh.

The bachelors degree is pretty much the equivalent of a high school diploma, these days. It's something you generally need to do, unless the idea of spiraling around the poverty line for the rest of your adult life appeals to you.

A good chunk of the students you're complaining about are just getting the degree because it's a ticket to the middle class. Being able to do 'what you want to do' is a luxury not everyone has.

 

[PetPony]

I realize that. The whole system would have to change for that to work. It's just something I'm used to and sometimes things here irritate me. Sorry for bringing it up.

 

[Dsmoody23]

I realize that. The whole system would have to change for that to work. It's just something I'm used to and sometimes things here irritate me. Sorry for bringing it up.

Meh.

If it's what you think, there's no reason to be sorry for bringing it up.

And I'm definitely not implying that I don't get irritated with everyone at my school who just clocks time and plays the "C's for degrees" game.

I want to choke the s**t out of most of those kids, especially when I get stuck working with them.

 

[Trematode]

I want to choke the s**t out of most of those kids, especially when I get stuck working with them.

Ditto. Especially when they are rich.

 

[Coquette22]

I sort of agree with the columnist. Before someone jumps down my throat, let me explain. I think "meh" might be a bad term for it, but I think I can see where he's coming from.

Let's face it, for the general population, vet degrees aren't "hot". Yes, there's enough of us wanting it that getting in is hard. But it's not something that's talked about a lot. I guess I think of a "hot" degree as something that EVERYONE wants in on. Given the world economy, I'm not sure there IS a hot degree right now, but I guess I'd use the example of computer science or IT a few years back. Ooh! Forensic science/criminology. That's my idea of a "hot" degree. All those crime shows make it seem oh-so-cool and everyone seems to want to get in on it. A not-hot degreee might be something like a BSc in mathematics or something. Most people wouldn't even know what to DO with a BSc in Mathematics. It's just not the first thing people think about. A professor once told me that the only reason his BSc was in Earth Science because at the time, there was a lot of natural gas exploration going on in the area and everyone wanted in on it.

That's not to downplay what we're doing, and I think he's speaking more to the population at large. There's lots of things that are "hot" by population standards that I think are repulsive (Uggs!). There's no big fad surrounding vet med, which is why it's "meh". It's not super popular, it's not horribly dull, it's somewhere in between.

*hides behind sofa before things get thrown at her*

 

[Trematode]

I always thought of "meh" as something bland and boring, or something nobody cares about. If nobody cared about veterinary degrees, vet school would be easy to get into because nobody would want to do it and nobody would want to take their pets to a vet at all. Then again, I think a huge chunk of the population think vet degrees are useless and wonder why they cannot do certain procedures on their own animals for little or nothing.

 

[Coquette22]

I always thought of "meh" as something bland and boring, or something nobody cares about.

I did say that I thought "meh" was a poor word. I'm using the "Not hot. Not not." as a basis for what I think he was trying to do. I've seen (and used) meh to mean that I'm totally indifferent to something. If nobody cared at all, it'd be "not" rather than just "meh", if that makes sense. I think he was using "meh" to mean something that a subset of the population might care about, but that most people just don't really think about. I'm guessing the vast majority of the population doesn't really think about vet med until something happens to their pet. Compare the plethora of medical or law dramas with the few short-lived vet shows. It's just that not that interesting to most people.

 

[Trematode]

... could you imagine Dr. House as a VET?

 

[Conflagration]

Did you see this today in the NYTimes Magazine?


The Meh List
By Greg Veis

Not Hot. Not Not. Just Meh.

1. Small plates
2. Chelsea Clinton, reporter
3. Leave-in conditioner
4. Every other Soderbergh movie
5. Sierra Mist
6. The Australian Open
7. A veterinary degree

Someone's got a case of the jilted bitter applicant. Maybe we should put a BA in Journalism on our Meh list?

 

[sooprnova]

This list is garbage! Sierra Mist ROCKS!

Stupid journalists.

 

[flyhi]

Is Chelsea Clinton really a reporter?

 

[lostbunny]

Well in the end.... we all read that chunk of the article and discussed it.

So:

rude journalist= 1

SDN pre-vets/vet students/vets = 0

..... 🙁

 

[lostbunny]

There's lots of things that are "hot" by population standards that I think are repulsive (Uggs!).

Just wanted to put it out there.... that i boycott Uggs and thought they were horrible looking things and completely useless (hiking through 2ft of snow to the bus stop in crappy leather and fuzzy wool things that basically let snow in and keep it there?!?!? ) but after living Aussie for the last few months... Uggs are actually very normal here- and not a fashion statement... *everyone* wears them in the winter including men (and its very socially accepted!). My bf insisted that the Americans stole Uggs, and ruined them... lol even he has a pair... but he says they're more for around the house wearing during winter, not so much for going out purposes.

Okay. Ugg tid bit over.

I will now conclude with photos of mostly sexy men demonstrating the proper use of Uggs.

 

[Dsmoody23]

Do you have any photos of men wearing cocktail dresses and high heels?

Because it's essentially the same thing.

 

[lostbunny]

this one is especially dedicated to you dsmoody:

 

[heylodeb]

Just wanted to put it out there.... that i boycott Uggs and thought they were horrible looking things and completely useless (hiking through 2ft of snow to the bus stop in crappy leather and fuzzy wool things that basically let snow in and keep it there?!?!? ) but after living Aussie for the last few months... Uggs are actually very normal here- and not a fashion statement... *everyone* wears them in the winter including men (and its very socially accepted!). My bf insisted that the Americans stole Uggs, and ruined them... lol even he has a pair... but he says they're more for around the house wearing during winter, not so much for going out purposes.

Okay. Ugg tid bit over.

I will now conclude with photos of mostly sexy men demonstrating the proper use of Uggs.

I've always thought that they look good on men.

 

[bunnity]

I think it's kind of funny that this thread is next to the "state of the profession" thread right now, but people are all mad at this one when they are saying the same thing 😛

 

[Wubbles]

I think it's kind of funny that this thread is next to the "state of the profession" thread right now, but people are all mad at this one when they are saying the same thing 😛

Ha, I don't think it's saying the same thing at all. Is Greg Veis a DVM? 😛
It just seems like such a weird thing to throw in there. Meh what? It would be interesting to hear what people outside of the vet world think of the current situation but this is just like a 10-year olds list of likes/dislikes - it doesn't mean anything.

 

[that redhead]

There's lots of things that are "hot" by population standards that I think are repulsive (Uggs!).

I swore I would never buy a pair of Uggs. Until one day, I had to wear my sister's out to the mailbox in the cold and I fell in love. However, I don't tuck my pants/legging/jeggings into them to be flashy 😉

 

[kakurubird]

Is Chelsea Clinton really a reporter?

Yes, but maybe not for long...

 

[fromthebox]

*I know, thread jacking*
I have a pair of uggs, they are great for the quick, accessible warm things or for comfort days. Would I wear them to class every day, or pair them with leggings (which are not pants!) no. But do they have a use? yes.

Is Vet Med meh? Not to me, but I have a serious bias. Meh to me would be a Pharmacy degree. You get a doctorate to dispense meds from behind a counter? Then again, many people I know assume DVM is a route for those who don't make the cut for MD programs, or that vet school is a 2 year program. I guess we are not a meh profession, we're just not on anyone's radar except when their pet is in peril.

 

[psilovethomas]

*I know, thread jacking*
I have a pair of uggs, they are great for the quick, accessible warm things or for comfort days. Would I wear them to class every day, or pair them with leggings (which are not pants!) no. But do they have a use? yes.

Is Vet Med meh? Not to me, but I have a serious bias. Meh to me would be a Pharmacy degree. You get a doctorate to dispense meds from behind a counter? Then again, many people I know assume DVM is a route for those who don't make the cut for MD programs, or that vet school is a 2 year program. I guess we are not a meh profession, we're just not on anyone's radar except when their pet is in peril.

My mom and boyfriend are both pharmacy techs. Not all pharmacists work retail. And MDs often consult PharmD's for info on drugs...
I don't think any degree is meh. Someone put a lot of time and effort into something they care about and hopefully feel compassionate about.

 

[sunnex3]

I don't think any degree is meh. Someone put a lot of time and effort into something they care about and hopefully feel compassionate about.

👍👍

 

[New Foundland]

A newspaper journalist wrote something that irritates a bunch of people?

oh my word