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I'm on an iPhone and have food poisoning, dirtbag!!!!! You don't DESERVE my mother!

This forum has been totally making my day. Every day.

The viral multiplication of the cheesy meme.
Pole dancing.
Weightlifting contests with 98 lb girls.
Debates where nobody gets butthurt.
Getting called a dirtbag by a total stranger.

I fully approve of the added edge this place has now.
 
Somewhere sometime ago, a wise person said "people degrade others to make themselves feel better". Is that what some of you are trying to do? Because the only time I have the urge to degrade somebody is when I feel like sh$t. And per professional and personal experience, those who try to degrade me are usually very very unhappy with themselves or their life. Fortunately I've been bestowed with the ability to be happy for other people's success (most of the time), and that includes any kind of degree..BA, BS, PhD, MBA, Associates...because whatever some people may believe, no degree comes without a cost or effort.

So, no such thing as a "meh" on any degree. If that's how you feel, best to keep it to yourself. "If you have nothing good to say, don't say anything at all", especially in a place like this where most if not all of us have made huge efforts to earn a little respect.

now....off to face my O chem homework.
 
Okay, so, to make use of this thread:

I'm watching The Biggest Loser and eating a chocolate bar. Meh.
 
What do you do with an English degree:
I know two people with English degrees; one worked as a technical writer and event organizer for a large physicians' organization at a teaching hospital. She is now getting her MPH with a focus on adolescent health.
The other writes for the Philadelphia Weekly magazine (and other publications) with a focus on mental health issues and advocacy, and her work is the subject of a soon to be released documentary.

I totally agree that you should do something with your degree. I don't think that's up for dispute.
 
What do you do with an English degree:
I know two people with English degrees; one worked as a technical writer and event organizer for a large physicians' organization at a teaching hospital. She is now getting her MPH with a focus on adolescent health.
The other writes for the Philadelphia Weekly magazine (and other publications) with a focus on mental health issues and advocacy, and her work is the subject of a soon to be released documentary.

I totally agree that you should do something with your degree. I don't think that's up for dispute.

That's actually very very cool. All the English majors I know partied every night and then wrote one essay a month the day before its due. I think if people are really into it, they can do something with it. But it might be somewhat harder to get those opportunities that you mentioned.
 
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Obviously the problem is not located to my city, province, country, continent if other people agree with what I have to say. :laugh:.

Someone mentioned that most teachers have BA.
Well, in my area, the list of subjects that teachers are needed for are: chemistry, physics, math and french (they are looking for french teachers in all subjects). So... BSc, BSc, BSc or BA (although I was told they would hire a BSc over a BA in that case because BSc tend to be better educated), and BA or BSc to teach French. The education program here is so over-saturated with people who have other degrees that you have to kiss butt to get subbing jobs and people who have been out of school 5+ years cannot get permanent jobs. The BA BEd graduates I know refuse to relocate to get said jobs and thus sit around and complain about their minimum wage jobs, their lack of subbing jobs, how crappy the education system is... I do not pity them at all. In order to do what you love, you have to make sacrifices. You cannot just pick a random degree and hope your dream job is flung at you. If you want to teach English/History/Art so badly, why don't you look into learning French/Math/Physical Sciences so you can at least get your foot into the door and go from there.

Most of us on here clearly get that concept of making sacrifices to do what you love. I know we whine when something does not work out for us, but when was the last time one of us settled for McDonalds and refused to do anything to get ourselves back into the game? Perhaps that is the difference. I am surrounded by people who are motivated online. My classmates now and the people I graduated with have all set goals for themselves and it is really nice to see them succeed. I have met students with other degrees who have set their goals high and are working hard to achieve it. But there is still an overwhelming number of students out there who have no idea why they are in university and they are rarely ever in a tough degree like engineering. There is this sort of gradient. Perhaps 9 hours of labs in the sciences is what does it. Or perhaps it is the fact that they make you watch the movie 300 in Humanities class and 10 points on your test is to list 5 inaccuracies in that movie (and if you cannot spell the name of the main character correctly, you are not docked any points). Meanwhile, -1 to me for spelling Rhaphidophoridae wrong and -2 points for incorrectly identifying the group as crickets when it is indeed camel crickets.
 
People, get your definitions in order.

Everybody's making up their own definition of meh here and then responding as such.

Meh is not a denunciation.
 
People, get your definitions in order.

Everybody's making up their own definition of meh here and then responding as such.

Meh is not a denunciation.

"Meh" is an interjection, often used as an expression of indifference or boredom. However, it can also be used to indicate agreement or disagreement. It can also be as a verb, (rendering something, like an activity, to become uninteresting or boring) and an adjective, meaning mediocre or boring."

Websters didn't quite have it, so I had to go to the wikipedia.

And none of this matters anyway, because your avatar pretty much just won the internet.
 
Obviously the problem is not located to my city, province, country, continent if other people agree with what I have to say. :laugh:.

Someone mentioned that most teachers have BA.
Well, in my area, the list of subjects that teachers are needed for are: chemistry, physics, math and french (they are looking for french teachers in all subjects). So... BSc, BSc, BSc or BA (although I was told they would hire a BSc over a BA in that case because BSc tend to be better educated), and BA or BSc to teach French. The education program here is so over-saturated with people who have other degrees that you have to kiss butt to get subbing jobs and people who have been out of school 5+ years cannot get permanent jobs. The BA BEd graduates I know refuse to relocate to get said jobs and thus sit around and complain about their minimum wage jobs, their lack of subbing jobs, how crappy the education system is... I do not pity them at all. In order to do what you love, you have to make sacrifices. You cannot just pick a random degree and hope your dream job is flung at you. If you want to teach English/History/Art so badly, why don't you look into learning French/Math/Physical Sciences so you can at least get your foot into the door and go from there.

Most of us on here clearly get that concept of making sacrifices to do what you love. I know we whine when something does not work out for us, but when was the last time one of us settled for McDonalds and refused to do anything to get ourselves back into the game? Perhaps that is the difference. I am surrounded by people who are motivated online. My classmates now and the people I graduated with have all set goals for themselves and it is really nice to see them succeed. I have met students with other degrees who have set their goals high and are working hard to achieve it. But there is still an overwhelming number of students out there who have no idea why they are in university and they are rarely ever in a tough degree like engineering. There is this sort of gradient. Perhaps 9 hours of labs in the sciences is what does it. Or perhaps it is the fact that they make you watch the movie 300 in Humanities class and 10 points on your test is to list 5 inaccuracies in that movie (and if you cannot spell the name of the main character correctly, you are not docked any points). Meanwhile, -1 to me for spelling Rhaphidophoridae wrong and -2 points for incorrectly identifying the group as crickets when it is indeed camel crickets.

Yes there are other people on here that think BA is easier than BS. There are other people saying the opposite. Here's an example. My ex has a double BA in Philosophy and History and Philosophy of Science. No way could I have made it through that program. My brain just doesn't work that way. The point is that I'm not going around saying that program would be hard for everyone or easy for everyone. You are using a bunch of examples from your own life and think that they apply to everyone. And you can't get a math degree and teach English unless you want to do elementary ed in which case you need a degree for elementary ed anyway. And why is French better than English? They are both humanities... they are both languages for goodness sake.
 
Yes there are other people on here that think BA is easier than BS. There are other people saying the opposite. Here's an example. My ex has a double BA in Philosophy and History and Philosophy of Science. No way could I have made it through that program. My brain just doesn't work that way. The point is that I'm not going around saying that program would be hard for everyone or easy for everyone. You are using a bunch of examples from your own life and think that they apply to everyone. And you can't get a math degree and teach English unless you want to do elementary ed in which case you need a degree for elementary ed anyway. And why is French better than English? They are both humanities... they are both languages for goodness sake.

French is only "better" than english if you expect to get a job in this area in a certain field.

Also, like I mentioned before, if my examples only applied to ME, people would not be agreeing with me (yet people ARE agreeing with me, so there is a trend whether you want to believe it or not)

I also could not do an english degree or philosophy degree because my writing skills suck and I do not have the brain to do philosophy. Yet, I can write an english/philosophy essay at the last minute and pull an A, while some of my friends, who are english majors, pulls Cs. I highly doubt I got lucky in the 3 english classes I took, 2 humanities classes and 2 philosophy classes I have taken. I just think the level of difficulty is different and it tends to draw a different group of people more so than other degrees. I am not saying that BA is useless and only stupid people do them. I am just saying that a number (which seems surprisngly large to me) are doing them and whining about them and their whining is really really really annoying. End rant on the whiney BA kids I know, who think I am "very smart" because I have an 82 average in the sciences (which is not that impressive at all since I am trying to get into vet school).
 
I'm on an iPhone and have food poisoning, dirtbag!!!!! You don't DESERVE my mother!
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Also, I think we should all continue to add what degrees family members/significant others/friends/acquaintances/that awkward guy or girl you hooked up freshman year/your brother's friend from hockey camp/the person who sits next to you in class have. If you could include their salary, where they now work, how they feel about this place and does it have trail mix (Y/N will suffice), that'd be even more helpful.
 
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Also, I think we should all continue to add what degrees family members/significant others/friends/acquaintances/that awkward guy or girl you hooked up freshman year/your brother's friend from hockey camp/the person who sits next to you in class have. If you could include their salary, where they now work, how they feel about this place and does it have trail mix (Y/N will suffice), that'd be even more helpful.

You're dead on.

When discussing if the BA degree is 'meh' in comparison to the BS degree, only the finest statistical evidence shall be tolerated.

Such a weighty topic deserves a discussion free from anecdotal evidence of any kind, because... as we all know, this is really serious business.
 
I was responding to possible YOUR MOM jokes. Not that she's an arts major.

But hey. She is pretty good lookin. Wouldn't blame dsmoody
 
I want to know how it is that people with zoology end up in the 1%? That's my major and I just don't see how that many zoologists can be making a ridiculous amount of money...

Probably because they study rare jungle animals that haven't yet been discovered, but then get money hungry and sell the fur instead of write papers like they are supposed to!

Also, why is everyone making fun of McDonald's. I heard that 1 out of every 3 North Americans worked at McDonalds. hahah I totally did. :laugh:
 
Make McDonald's your career for the next 40 years and then get back to me :laugh:.

I did Dairy Queen. Kind of miss decorating ice cream cakes.
 
Make McDonald's your career for the next 40 years and then get back to me :laugh:.

I did Dairy Queen. Kind of miss decorating ice cream cakes.

I MISS ICE CREAM CAKES 🙁 There is no Dairy Queen in Australia... well there is but its not Dairy queen dairy queen.

McDonalds probably only sucks if you work on the floor for 40 years... but the owner of the Micky D's I worked at owned like 4 McDs' and was filthy rich. So there's a path for anyone considering McD for a plan B?...
 
But you somehow have to make enough money to buy the McDee's in the first place. So working at McDee's to begin with might not be your best option for that.

The owner of the first DQ I worked at owns a golf course and is part of town council.

I do not think I could make McDonald's a career. I would be working along side the kids who made fun of the smart kids in junior high. And they will likely be twice my size at this point so I would not be able to beat them up.

What are my old junior high bullies doing now? Supervisor at McDonalds, employee at Wendy's, call center rep and employee at the thrift store... makes a mental note to study hard*
 
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don't know if this has been said yet or not, but can i say that this thread is meh? :meanie:
 
Yes sunnex 3!!! That's the whole point of it and why I started it in the first place. Not good, not bad ... just meh.
 
Probably because they study rare jungle animals that haven't yet been discovered, but then get money hungry and sell the fur instead of write papers like they are supposed to!

I think that's a pretty good hypothesis haha.
 
People, get your definitions in order.

Everybody's making up their own definition of meh here and then responding as such.

Meh is not a denunciation.

And yet you didn't bother clearing up the actual definition for us all?
 
Don't forget; not all SDN-ers are BS degree holders. Some of us are proud of our BA. And we will be your future classmates too..

I majored in biology at my undergrad and they only offered a BA....I honestly didn't know it was that big of a deal, it's just letters on a paper. You bust your ass in class, you graduate, done. Nobody has ever asked me after revealing my major if it was a BA or a BS.
 
I majored in biology at my undergrad and they only offered a BA....I honestly didn't know it was that big of a deal, it's just letters on a paper. You bust your ass in class, you graduate, done. Nobody has ever asked me after revealing my major if it was a BA or a BS.

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btw i was a biology major too, but i was awarded a BA.

and really...it's just a letters game! in the end, it doesn't matter what letters you have after your name or what people think. you just need to love what you do and be dedicated. my dad has a PhD and MBA but he hates his job...what good do those letters do for him?

just my opinion, don't shoot me! *hides*
 
I double-majored in Philosophy and Molecular Biology/Genetics, so I don't know what side I'm on. When I get bored looking at ClinPath notes, sometimes I skim my book on kierkegaard that I leave around just to impress visitors.
 
Ouch. :eyebrow::nono:

My father has a BA and makes an income within the 98.5% percentile and has been working his butt off his whole life. My sister also has a BA and makes $90k+/year and has only been working for about 3 years.
I don't really understand what anyone gets from belittling others' degree choices.
My father works for the government and hires many people every year to help him complete his projects (unmanned war vehicles - awesome!) and says he doesn't look where the person went to school (although he discredits universities like University of Phoenix), and only really cares that they have a degree (doesn't really matter in what), that they have experience in his field, have a good resume, and interview well.

I really think this thread goes against what we preach to others when we say "you don't have to get a degree in animal science, biology, chemistry, biochem, etc to get accepted to vet school- do what you want to do" spiel.

Also, most of your grade school and high school teachers have BA's and MA's. Yep.

There are exceptions to every rule, but that doesn't mean there are no rules.

Your dad probably went to college at a time when that meant something in its own right, rather than the current flocks of people who have no good reason to be in college and completely lack any intellectual curiosity.

I'm on that small overlap of people who has both a BA and a BS. The BA was basically an afterthought. My sister also has both a BS and a BA, and she'd tell you the same; and that's from someone who actually has intellectual curiosity and had a reason to major as she did. Nevertheless, it's easier to coast through a world ofessays and multiple choice tests than lab write-ups and presentations. The distinguishing feature of the BS is the lab coursework, which is brutal.

My wife has a BA in human biology and an MD, and is in her third year of residency. When I referred to her as having 8 years of medical education, she balked and took offense that I'd sooner consider her undergraduate prereqs that made med school comprehensible at all to her residency time. The BA was essentially an insignificant part of her education (in her view), despite humbio being as relevant a major as possible for a surgeon. Now I know I'm comapring an MD and a BA here, but it remains that the challenge in both is that a BS or and MD (or a JD, etc.) will GENERALLY be directly relevant to a real vocation and thus have real standards, while a BA (with the exceptions that include accounting and such), as not being directly vocational, will have a lot more room for fudging and faking and BSing and brownnosing.

If you're going on to a doctorate in veterinary science, more power to you, and the fact your ugrad degree is a BA is irrelevant because it isn't your terminal, professional degree. But in this day and age, the fact remains that the BS students will, on the whole, be more serious and hard working and engaged with their curricula than the BA students.
 
If you're going on to a doctorate in veterinary science, more power to you, and the fact your ugrad degree is a BA is irrelevant because it isn't your terminal, professional degree. But in this day and age, the fact remains that the BS students will, on the whole, be more serious and hard working and engaged with their curricula than the BA students.

Ok, I can accept that generalization, BUT that is not really an indictment of the BA (for the record I got a BS in Economics, my wife a BA in English)...
Just because people can coast through school and get a degree doesn't mean the degree itself isn't worthwhile. Like many other things in life, to some degree you get what you put into it.

I am just not a big fan of professionally focused education. Putting on my old man hat... in my day, the biggest thing about going to school was learning how to think, how to write, how to analyze, and all of those skills are applicable to any career/profession. And a GOOD BA program helps to provide that to students.

People with a purely professional focus are often so narrow minded that they are unbearable (spend some time in the Lounge and you can find plenty of those types).

Since y'all mentioned English majors, for example...they often end up being both successful lawyers and businesspeople. A lot of Wall Street firms would rather hire a philosophy major from Princeton than a Business major from UVA or Notre Dame even those are great undergrad biz programs.

From my experience, the ability of people to write coherently, and make a reasonably constructed argument is hugely lacking from the focused BSers, and at least slightly better from the BAers.

If you are going on to graduate school, then what you learned in undergrad is almost superfluous, and if you are going out to work in the business world, then there is hardly a degree that matters. You are going to learn what you need on the job. I went to what (at the time) was by far the best undergrad biz school. Very little of the details of what I learned was meaningful to me. Maybe some of the math and statistics, but that was about it.

Wanna get a good job? Go to a good school, get good grades, and make good contacts over the summer.

Last point.. .for those of you who think English is such a joke, take an upper level theory class, then try reading the literary theories of Lacan, or Kristeva for example, and then come back and tell me how easy that stuff is. I can honestly say that some of the most challenging material to really understand that I have come across is in literary criticism and philosophy.
 
This thread just got nutmeg'd. Crazy.

I have two BS's so it's clear which one I'm more partial to, but I agree that either one is, in our context, only a stepping stone to something bigger and better.
 
What do you do with an English degree:
I know two people with English degrees; one worked as a technical writer and event organizer for a large physicians' organization at a teaching hospital. She is now getting her MPH with a focus on adolescent health.
The other writes for the Philadelphia Weekly magazine (and other publications) with a focus on mental health issues and advocacy, and her work is the subject of a soon to be released documentary.

I totally agree that you should do something with your degree. I don't think that's up for dispute.

My fiance has an English degree. However, he's getting a Masters in Teaching and Teacher Education. He's going to teach middle school English. Kinda makes sense that he majored in it. Though I know someone else who had an English degree who didn't know what they were going to do and another who works for a publishing company.

Not talking junk, but if I went to school for 8 years and ended up doing 40 hours a week at the CVS, I would shake my fist at god.

Good paycheck, but my dad says CVS is like the worst place to work retail. Something along the lines of pulling his teeth out rather than working there. He currently works at Target and says it's one of the best retail pharmacies he's worked in (he's worked at Fry's and RiteAid too). He's also done the consulting thing and the hospital thing. However, he admits the whole profession isn't the same as when he graduated.
 
This thread was funny until people got all serious and **** on this page.
 
This thread was funny until people got all serious and **** on this page.


I thought so too....now, I have a conundrum. I have a BA in equine management and am getting a BS in biology now. Hhhmmm, so I suppose I am just all ahem, screwed up?! Incidentally, I also have an AA in computer programming and a minor in agriculture.

Carry on with the meh....😀
 
Come on people... BAs are only useless if you skip class a lot, lazy and you do not know what you want to do with your life. The number of BAs who skip class a lot, are lazy, do not know what they want to do > the number of BSc who skip class a lot, are lazy and do not know what they want to do. Not "everyone who has taken a BA sucks at life". It is equivalent to walking into a garage to get your car fixed. You have a higher chance of having a man work on your car than a woman. It does not mean that a woman will never work on your car. It is just that mechanic industry attracts more men than woman. Just as a BA attracts more pinheads than your average university degree. It does not mean that earning a BA automatically makes you a pinhead. It makes you a conehead like everbody else who earned a degree and used it to their advantage.
 
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ETA:

realized my post was pretty rude. SO:

xoxo all around!
 
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I don't even have a degree!! egads!!!
 
Just remember, the "majority" of college students who slack off are probably going to end up being just fine as soon as they get there lives together.

And lets be real. They will probably be the majority of our clients.

So be nice! No judging!
 


That's what so many people in my chem class said last semester. Lots of pre-meds. Three month later, half the class was left and every few days someone would post on our chem fb page that they're so excited to not be a pre-med anymore because it's too much work. lol
 
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