The Meh List

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psilovethomas said:
I don't think any degree is meh. Someone put a lot of time and effort into something they care about and hopefully feel compassionate about.
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Also, 👍👍 My gf is doing her PhD in the humanities and has already started teaching undergrad courses at a well-respected state school. She might even have better job prospects than I will when we both graduate. 🙄
 
😕 I considered pharmacy school and probably would have gone for it if I had not wanted vet med instead... No need to poop on other people's career choices!
 
fromthebox said:
...Is Vet Med meh? Not to me, but I have a serious bias. Meh to me would be a Pharmacy degree. You get a doctorate to dispense meds from behind a counter? Then again, many people I know assume DVM is a route for those who don't make the cut for MD programs, or that vet school is a 2 year program. I guess we are not a meh profession, we're just not on anyone's radar except when their pet is in peril.
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My dad's a pharmacist and he knows more about the meds doctors prescribe than the doctors. In fact it's basically up to him to keep people from taking medications that when combined could kill them. Also he knows how they work in the body and can call people stupid when they say that Tylenol is in the same class as Motrin (like they did in my o chem lab book). I always thought it might not be too bad if I didn't make it into vet school.
 
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Not talking junk, but if I went to school for 8 years and ended up doing 40 hours a week at the CVS, I would shake my fist at god.
 
Dsmoody23 said:
Not talking junk, but if I went to school for 8 years and ended up doing 40 hours a week at the CVS, I would shake my fist at god.
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That is the biggest turn off for me. I do not want to spend 6+ years in university to work in a building that also sells nail polish and trail mix. I would drive myself mad! It would be like going to culinary school and getting their fancy pastry degrees and italian cooking degrees... and then working in a Denney's. Except you do make more as a pharmacist. Pharmacy is most sought-after professional degree at my undergrad institution. Seems like the only people who can get in are the ones who are illegally trained as pharmacy techs. And some people think we have it rough... based on talking to people, getting a job behind the pharmacy counter is NOT easy (and that is one thing that the pharm school here looks favorably upon) and apparently being a cashier at a pharmacy does not look as good. Hmm. I smell something fishy with that one. I refuse to look into it further because I have no interest in applying to the local pharmacy school. They do the multiple interviews here. I heard it blows.
 
Trematode said:
That is the biggest turn off for me. I do not want to spend 6+ years in university to work in a building that also sells nail polish and trail mix. I would drive myself mad! It would be like going to culinary school and getting their fancy pastry degrees and italian cooking degrees... and then working in a Denney's. Except you do make more as a pharmacist. Pharmacy is most sought-after professional degree at my undergrad institution. Seems like the only people who can get in are the ones who are illegally trained as pharmacy techs. And some people think we have it rough... based on talking to people, getting a job behind the pharmacy counter is NOT easy (and that is one thing that the pharm school here looks favorably upon) and apparently being a cashier at a pharmacy does not look as good. Hmm. I smell something fishy with that one. I refuse to look into it further because I have no interest in applying to the local pharmacy school. They do the multiple interviews here. I heard it blows.
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I thought it was fishy when one of my friends got into our state pharmacy school with no experience with a pharmacist. Not even shadowing (she worked in a lab one summer, and worked for an oral surgeon for a year or so). I have no doubts she'll be great but I don't think I could commit to a program like that without shadowing someone for a day even.
 
Trematode said:
That is the biggest turn off for me. I do not want to spend 6+ years in university to work in a building that also sells nail polish and trail mix.
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WHAT.

Those are like my two favorite things. Can you make being a pharmacist sound any better?
 
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scb44f said:
I thought it was fishy when one of my friends got into our state pharmacy school with no experience with a pharmacist. Not even shadowing (she worked in a lab one summer, and worked for an oral surgeon for a year or so). I have no doubts she'll be great but I don't think I could commit to a program like that without shadowing someone for a day even.
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I had a friend that was accepted into ophthalmology school and never shadowed. Two years into the program he dropped out. Reasonings were: he did not want to work in an office all day, he did not want to take peoples eye pressures all day, and eyeballs have an "unpleasant" feeling.

Umm... possibly he should of considered all that before jumping feet first?

Sometimes the methods in which schools select their students puzzles me.
 
lostbunny said:
what is it with some people and their weird anti-eyeball phobias? I like eyes. I like nail polish too.
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i don't like eyes...whenever optho emergencies come in at the clinic i'm like "blehhhh" :barf:

ETA: though i do like watching enucleations...
 
I have a friend who dropped about 300K on optometry school.

UG at Notre Dame, top post grad school...

Works at a Lenscrafters.

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sunnex3 said:
i don't like eyes...whenever optho emergencies come in at the clinic i'm like "blehhhh" :barf:

ETA: though i do like watching enucleations...
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I haven't seen an enucleation yet, but I've seen a few popping-eyeball-back-ins. I like those 😀
 
lostbunny said:
I haven't seen an enucleation yet, but I've seen a few popping-eyeball-back-ins. I like those 😀
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reminds me of a time when one of the ER doctors tried to push an eyeball back in using a.......wooden spoon! like the kind you use in cooking! wasn't really the most sterile technique but really we were trying to put it back in really quick so we could send it off for emergency surgery...:laugh:

although...not sure if this is the most exemplary situation of veterinary medicine at it's best....
 
lostbunny said:
I haven't seen an enucleation yet, but I've seen a few popping-eyeball-back-ins. I like those 😀
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I have seen bits and pieces of an enucleation. It is SO COOL (and eye balls make me a little squeemish because I am not used to being around infected ones).
 
My boyfriend is starting pharmacy school in the fall and also hates to think that he could work in retail. Hopefully he will complete a residency and wind up elsewhere.
In VA, pharmacy techs must be licensed and renew CE's, just like LVT/RVT's.
Wal-Mart pays new PharmD grads starting at $100k. .....:idea:
 
Lots of vets graduate and are working somewhere that sells puppy pads and feeder mice. Makes that 100k look better.
 
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psilovethomas said:
My boyfriend is starting pharmacy school in the fall and also hates to think that he could work in retail. Hopefully he will complete a residency and wind up elsewhere.
In VA, pharmacy techs must be licensed and renew CE's, just like LVT/RVT's.
Wal-Mart pays new PharmD grads starting at $100k. .....:idea:
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There are some other options! My father-in-law is a pharmacist, and though he did the whole behind-the-counter stint at first, he now does consulting at nursing homes and the like! Basically, he gets to go through their charts and make sure the docs don't overmedicate or kill their patients.
 
Dsmoody23 said:
Someone should remind Greg that he works in an obsolete, dying industry.

Not much more "Meh" than print journalism, especially when a formerly iconic paper like the NYT is wasting page space on something that could pass for the facebook status of a teenage girl.
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EXACTLY what I thought... 🙂
 
A little rude to insult a whole degree when what you really should be doing is pointing out the individuals that are slacking off earning a BA. Not all of us who graduated with a BA are lazy. That's presumptuous and my whole generalization of BS grads being condescending just gained a bit of credibility. I read and wrote and typed until my fingers were sore back in college, because there were papers upon papers that I had to turn in. All had to be thought provoking and challenge ideas and theories of relevant figures like Marx. I can't help taking it a little personally when someone just generalizes that into one petty syllable that isn't even a real word.

Don't forget; not all SDN-ers are BS degree holders. Some of us are proud of our BA. And we will be your future classmates too..
 
My dad loves being a pharmacist but hates working for CVS. HATES it!
As Breenie says, great paycheck though.
 
yann said:
A little rude to insult a whole degree when what you really should be doing is pointing out the individuals that are slacking off earning a BA. Not all of us who graduated with a BA are lazy. That's presumptuous and my whole generalization of BS grads being condescending just gained a bit of credibility. I read and wrote and typed until my fingers were sore back in college, because there were papers upon papers that I had to turn in. All had to be thought provoking and challenge ideas and theories of relevant figures like Marx. I can't help taking it a little personally when someone just generalizes that into one petty syllable that isn't even a real word.

Don't forget; not all SDN-ers are BS degree holders. Some of us are proud of our BA. And we will be your future classmates too..
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All I know is that the science students at my school take BA humanities classes as a break from big kid classes.

I took lit and history as gimme classes when I needed to pad out my 17 credits, and wanted something that would require virtually no sustained effort.

Sure, papers suck. Write a journal article. Write a real scientific paper. It sucks more. And you'll be writing it while you're memorizing the contents of a book that's as thick as your wrist.
 
Trematode said:
I have seen bits and pieces of an enucleation. It is SO COOL (and eye balls make me a little squeemish because I am not used to being around infected ones).
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I did get to help with a mandible-ectomy?! ... but no eye removals. just yet 🙁 Though okay I guess eyes can be scary sometimes, when they make the animal look possessed.

We had this little white dog come in DOA, completely rigor-ed with the mouth open and eyes wide open. It was actually really sad because he must have been like 50 years old and the owners found him like that.

ANYWAYS- the eyes were completely covered over in I guess cataracts, just white- like children of the corn white-... poor thing!! Our optho vet just happened to walk by as we're bagging him up, and goes "I coulda fixed that!" and continues walking on... what a sick man!
 
I think it is all relative and what you are compassionate about. I can't analyze literature for crap. I give major props to those who can compose an elaborate multi-paged essay on a poem that I just thought was about some hopeless romantic getting dumped. It's very hard for me.
On the other hand, I can write the poop out of a scientific paper.
BA, BS, DVM, MD, DO, DDS, PharmD, MS, MA, MPH, MBA..etc. They all mean something to someone (and most likely a significant group of people), so I think it is rude to make someone's 4 year+ effort seem whimsical.
 
psilovethomas said:
I think it is all relative and what you are compassionate about. I can't analyze literature for crap. I give major props to those who can compose an elaborate multi-paged essay on a poem that I just thought was about some hopeless romantic getting dumped. It's very hard for me.
On the other hand, I can write the poop out of a scientific paper.
BA, BS, DVM, MD, DO, DDS, PharmD, MS, MA, MPH, MBA..etc. They all mean something to someone (and most likely a significant group of people), so I think it is rude to make someone's 4 year+ effort seem whimsical.
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The post was about difficulty. There's a reason I'm not a physics or chem major. That stuff is hard. Harder than what I'm doing, on an easy day.

And some degrees are ridiculous. I dated a girl last year who was working on the senior 'thesis' project for her art degree. It was a 3x3 portrait of Albert Einstein, woven from folded chewing gum wrappers. I **** you not.
 
Dsmoody23 said:
And some degrees are ridiculous. I dated a girl last year who was working on the senior 'thesis' project for her art degree. It was a 3x3 portrait of Albert Einstein, woven from folded chewing gum wrappers. I **** you not.
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key word "dated"
 
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DSM - is it possible that you were taking mostly lower level humanities since that wasn't your major? Just like if a humanities major was taking a science, they would take "Biology in Daily Life" or something?
 
bunnity said:
DSM - is it possible that you were taking mostly lower level humanities since that wasn't your major? Just like if a humanities major was taking a science, they would take "Biology in Daily Life" or something?
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2.5 years of creative writing/lit at Emerson.

My intro to botany class was harder than anything I ever did there.
 
By far my most thought-provoking, time-intensive classes in college have been high level philosophy coursework. I can't say it is nearly as difficult as something like biochem, but definitely lots of time thinking (and writing).

With that said... every humanity I've taken outside of the philosophy department has been a joke, comparatively. I've also seen many humanities/social science students really struggle in the "baby genetics" (genetics in human affairs) course I TA - which I found laughably easy to get an A in. So it varies.
 
bunnity said:
DSM - is it possible that you were taking mostly lower level humanities since that wasn't your major? Just like if a humanities major was taking a science, they would take "Biology in Daily Life" or something?
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It is great if you know what you want to do and are willing to work hard for it. But, based on my experiences, the number of lazy BA students far outnumber the number of lazy BSc students because the lazy BSc students usually get the hint and drop out (or get high off cancer meds and flunk out). Meanwhile, I get to sit around and listen to my BA graduate friends whine about their minimum wage jobs and my BA friends whine about the fact that they have no idea what they are going to do when they graduate. My BSc friends who did not know what they wanted to do when they graduated? They are out earning more specific degrees and continuing on with their education. Why the heck does the divide exist?! It boggles my mind. It is people like that who make BA degrees the butt of every education joke.

Eg:
An engineering graduate asks how that works. A science graduate asks why that works. So what does an arts graduate ask?
Would you like fries with that?

I am certain the people I know influenced that joke somehow.

You guys need more Hemingway's, Freud's, Frost's and Picasso's to get your rep back up there... so get to work!
 
Trematode said:
Why the heck does the divide exist?! It boggles my mind. It is people like that who make BA degrees the butt of every education joke.

Eg:
An engineering graduate asks how that works. A science graduate asks why that works. So what does an arts graduate ask?
Would you like fries with that?
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I guess (from thinking too much about why this divide exists) since in high school we are more or less the same and make fun of each other based on what social group we belong to. Some people take science classes and some take humanities in high school, but we are more interested in social status and don't care much for what classes you're taking...

but once you get to uni the social barriers disintegrate and now we are labelled by our degree/program.... and since we have less time together to really get to know each other (as opposed to high school) we can only judge and insult based on the next best thing... your degree. 😉

P.s. any art students out there? I want to know what BAs think of BScs and all the mean butt of jokes you make BScs out to be?... ? 😀
 
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Trematode said:
It is great if you know what you want to do and are willing to work hard for it. But, based on my experiences, the number of lazy BA students far outnumber the number of lazy BSc students because the lazy BSc students usually get the hint and drop out (or get high off cancer meds and flunk out). Meanwhile, I get to sit around and listen to my BA graduate friends whine about their minimum wage jobs and my BA friends whine about the fact that they have no idea what they are going to do when they graduate. My BSc friends who did not know what they wanted to do when they graduated? They are out earning more specific degrees and continuing on with their education. Why the heck does the divide exist?! It boggles my mind. It is people like that who make BA degrees the butt of every education joke.

Eg:
An engineering graduate asks how that works. A science graduate asks why that works. So what does an arts graduate ask?
Would you like fries with that?

I am certain the people I know influenced that joke somehow.

You guys need more Hemingway's, Freud's, Frost's and Picasso's to get your rep back up there... so get to work!
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Ouch. :eyebrow::nono:

My father has a BA and makes an income within the 98.5% percentile and has been working his butt off his whole life. My sister also has a BA and makes $90k+/year and has only been working for about 3 years.
I don't really understand what anyone gets from belittling others' degree choices.
My father works for the government and hires many people every year to help him complete his projects (unmanned war vehicles - awesome!) and says he doesn't look where the person went to school (although he discredits universities like University of Phoenix), and only really cares that they have a degree (doesn't really matter in what), that they have experience in his field, have a good resume, and interview well.

I really think this thread goes against what we preach to others when we say "you don't have to get a degree in animal science, biology, chemistry, biochem, etc to get accepted to vet school- do what you want to do" spiel.

Also, most of your grade school and high school teachers have BA's and MA's. Yep.
 
To play Devils advocate, my father got a BA In English. He says it's super helpful. He's a mortgage broker and not doing very well at that. He really doesn't have the business mentality. Somehow I'd feel he'd be better prepared if he had a business degree.

My mother has a fine arts degree. She loves art but she even says its a worthless degree. She wished that she had become an arts professor, but they made too little at the time. She went into insurance instead.

I'm just saying based on my families' experience, why waste money on a degree you don't use?
 
Trematode said:
It is great if you know what you want to do and are willing to work hard for it. But, based on my experiences, the number of lazy BA students far outnumber the number of lazy BSc students because the lazy BSc students usually get the hint and drop out (or get high off cancer meds and flunk out). Meanwhile, I get to sit around and listen to my BA graduate friends whine about their minimum wage jobs and my BA friends whine about the fact that they have no idea what they are going to do when they graduate. My BSc friends who did not know what they wanted to do when they graduated? They are out earning more specific degrees and continuing on with their education. Why the heck does the divide exist?! It boggles my mind. It is people like that who make BA degrees the butt of every education joke.

Eg:
An engineering graduate asks how that works. A science graduate asks why that works. So what does an arts graduate ask?
Would you like fries with that?

I am certain the people I know influenced that joke somehow.

You guys need more Hemingway's, Freud's, Frost's and Picasso's to get your rep back up there... so get to work!
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I'm not sure if you really meant to respond to me...?

Is it just too mind-boggling for everyone here that what is true for YOU at YOUR school with YOUR friends in YOUR state in YOUR country might not apply to the entire world?
 
bunnity said:
I'm not sure if you really meant to respond to me...?

Is it just too mind-boggling for everyone here that what is true for YOU at YOUR school with YOUR friends in YOUR state in YOUR country might not apply to the entire world?
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Yes.
 
bunnity said:
I'm not sure if you really meant to respond to me...?

Is it just too mind-boggling for everyone here that what is true for YOU at YOUR school with YOUR friends in YOUR state in YOUR country might not apply to the entire world?
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Haha I'm not saying that at all. But really, what does on DO with an English degree? I tried to ask my father this, and he says it makes him communicate better. What about communication studies? Idk. If people used English degrees to actually teach English or whatnot, I'd think that's great. But if you are doing a degree just to pass the time, I think there's a better place for money.

Side note: I have met a BS in bio who ended up working for Abercrombie. I mean, really now??
 
TigerWillow said:
I'm just saying based on my families' experience, why waste money on a degree you don't use?
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That was my point. Get one if you know what to do with it, but not if it's just to pass time because you have nothing better to do and that's what everybody does.
 
twelvetigers said:
Wait, then WHO'S SISTER WAS IT?

Dsmoody, you're old enough that the 'your mom' comments are basically plausible. Why not stick with that?
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And then Id retort my mom was an arts major and apparently you have a thing for the artsy fartsy people who have useless assignments.
 
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