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my rant to those who didn't get in this cycle:
there is no formula for getting into dental school, which is very true. NYU is run like a business, more than any other dental school, simply due to the size. they accept people based off of their abilities to be able to take a test (pass the boards), and their willingness to pay the insane cost of attending NYU. bottom line, which is unfortunate: they accept people with the realization that 10-15 students a year won't make the cut moving forward. it is what it is. they accept you, take your money, and if you don't make it then they tell you to remediate, even if you're short of passing by .5%. i know of people who have had to repeat a whole school year because of missing 1 question on a remedial exam. repeating a year means another 80k that the school will get in tuition, should the student decide to repeat a year...which is most often the case. you're already so financially invested in dental school that you probably have no choice but to repeat and continue.
i know of people who didn't get in with 25s on the DAT, where as i know people who got in with 19s on their DAT. what's the logic? a person with a 25 on the DAT isn't very likely to pay the $$ for NYU, because they've either gotten into a better school, or a cheaper school. the person with lower scores is more likely to be a sure seat that they can fill for the class. also consider the fact that someone else mentioned up here...if you're close to new york city, and are competing for a spot you're probably more likely to get it.
i'm seriously just playing devil's advocate here. my experience at NYU has been pretty standard, and I wouldn't change it for the world. i'm proud to be at a great institution, but at the same time, i'm not blindly denying the faults of my school. if you didn't get into NYU this cycle, sure you put your professional career on hold, but that just means you have the opportunity to improve your resume and get into cheaper schools for the next cycle. even if you're a year behind academically at that point, you'll still be ahead financially. always think 'long term'. good luck.
i'm sorry but i have to disagree with you.
There is a vast majority of people who I know that got well above a 19s, who got into cheaper schools, who CHOSE to go to NYUCD over other schools. You're making it sound like NYUCD takes the scraps from other dental schools knowing people are desperate enough to cough up the cash- for some that may be the case, but it is definitely not the majority. NYUCD has a lot going for it, with all it's specialties it provides on top of all its resources. I have friends in other dental schools who haven't experienced a fraction of what I have already been tested on in practicals. Don't get me wrong - NYU definitely works you to the limit because, like you said - they are a business, and their business is ensure they're students pass their boards and pump out great dentists with more experience than other schools. Great students with 100% pass rate for the past 6 years on boards, that have loads of experience, lead on to become great dentists is good PR for them.
Yeah 10-15 don't make the cut, so out of a class of 370-ish, that's 4% of the class. so in an average dental school class size of 70 students, 4% is about 3 people don't make the cut at the end of the year --- that is pretty much the norm. some of the time people drop out because, frankly, you don't know how dental school will be like until you're actually experiencing it. and i have no doubt that there are some people who after a couple months of their first year think, "you know what, I don't think this is for me" and so they quit. Other drop because of health concerns, or other emergencies, and finally there are the people who genuinely didn't put in the time to study to make the cut. remediation does not equal repeating the year. yea you could be short 0.5% of passing, and so they review you and if they see that you have tutors, and talked with your adviser, and made efforts in changing how to study, sometimes they let you off the hook and you don't remediate if it's by a small enough margin, but there always have to be a cut off - they can't lower the passing rate to accommodate everyone. that's just life. you don't pay extra tuition for remediation. if you have to repeat the year - well then i'm sorry i'm not sorry that the school is giving you another opportunity before kicking you out immediately. Yes they'll take another $80k, but that's better than being forcibly kicked out and have no opportunity to make up the first or two years of loans. And do you seriously think that other schools don't do the same??
wherever you go, every school has their faults and every school is a business. and by telling people that they should give up going to NYUCD to reapply to go to a cheaper dental school, is horrible advice. The application processes was perhaps the most horrible and stressful experience that I've been through - you don't know where you'll end up, and you're just waiting around, and you don't have a guarantee that you'd get in the second time around. I would rather be already in dental school than go through the application process again. NYUCD isn't the most expensive dental school either, it's just the high cost of living in the area makes it expensive. I love NYUCD, I feel like I'm getting a great education, and I love being in NYC!! if people love NYUCD too, they shouldn't be dissuaded because of your opinion. Just because you go to an expensive dental school doesn't mean you're going to live the rest of your life in debt, same goes in saying that just because you go to a cheaper dental school doesn't mean you're going to end up being richer in the "long term".