i'm sorry but i have to disagree with you.
There is a vast majority of people who I know that got well above a 19s, who got into cheaper schools, who CHOSE to go to NYUCD over other schools. You're making it sound like NYUCD takes the scraps from other dental schools knowing people are desperate enough to cough up the cash- for some that may be the case, but it is definitely not the majority. NYUCD has a lot going for it, with all it's specialties it provides on top of all its resources. I have friends in other dental schools who haven't experienced a fraction of what I have already been tested on in practicals. Don't get me wrong - NYU definitely works you to the limit because, like you said - they are a business, and their business is ensure they're students pass their boards and pump out great dentists with more experience than other schools. Great students with 100% pass rate for the past 6 years on boards, that have loads of experience, lead on to become great dentists is good PR for them. okay, well let me try to put it this way: first of all, i was in no way implying that NYU takes scraps from other dental schools. i chose NYU over other schools simply because the cost difference was negligible and it was closer to home for me. that's my justification. again i was playing devil's advocate.
just by the size of each individual class, you'll have a mixed bag of students statistically. i know that NYU has a lot going for it, after decades of having a bad rep. dean bertolami has really turned the school in a positive direction. in terms of friends in other dental schools who haven't experienced a fraction of what we've been tested (yes i go to NYUCD and i'm a d3)...that logic has no justification, as some schools start of with wax ups for a semester, or even removable prosth (which you will be doing this year). differences in curriculum have no weight in this argument. and yes the boards passing rate is a huge plus...passing that many students on a grand scale is a big deal.
Yeah 10-15 don't make the cut, so out of a class of 370-ish, that's 4% of the class. so in an average dental school class size of 70 students, 4% is about 3 people don't make the cut at the end of the year --- that is pretty much the norm. some of the time people drop out because, frankly, you don't know how dental school will be like until you're actually experiencing it. and i have no doubt that there are some people who after a couple months of their first year think, "you know what, I don't think this is for me" and so they quit. Other drop because of health concerns, or other emergencies, and finally there are the people who genuinely didn't put in the time to study to make the cut. remediation does not equal repeating the year. yea you could be short 0.5% of passing, and so they review you and if they see that you have tutors, and talked with your adviser, and made efforts in changing how to study, sometimes they let you off the hook and you don't remediate if it's by a small enough margin, but there always have to be a cut off - they can't lower the passing rate to accommodate everyone. that's just life. you don't pay extra tuition for remediation. if you have to repeat the year - well then i'm sorry i'm not sorry that the school is giving you another opportunity before kicking you out immediately. Yes they'll take another $80k, but that's better than being forcibly kicked out and have no opportunity to make up the first or two years of loans. And do you seriously think that other schools don't do the same?? i agree, the numbers are comparable among a larger class vs. a smaller class.
i know for a fact that other schools don't do the same. i've never heard of any other school that nickel and dimes students out of having to repeat a course in remediation because they missed a question, let alone repeat a year. i don't mean to be rude, but you have yet to experience second year which is completely different. systems pathology and cr1 are 2 courses which fail the most students at NYU.
wherever you go, every school has their faults and every school is a business. and by telling people that they should give up going to NYUCD to reapply to go to a cheaper dental school, is horrible advice. The application processes was perhaps the most horrible and stressful experience that I've been through - you don't know where you'll end up, and you're just waiting around, and you don't have a guarantee that you'd get in the second time around. I would rather be already in dental school than go through the application process again. NYUCD isn't the most expensive dental school either, it's just the high cost of living in the area makes it expensive. I love NYUCD, I feel like I'm getting a great education, and I love being in NYC!! if people love NYUCD too, they shouldn't be dissuaded because of your opinion. Just because you go to an expensive dental school doesn't mean you're going to live the rest of your life in debt, same goes in saying that just because you go to a cheaper dental school doesn't mean you're going to end up being richer in the "long term". at what point did i tell people that they should give up going to NYUCD? i simply said that if it didn't work out this year, try harder, maybe you could get into a better or cheaper school. that is honest advice. NYUCD is among the most expensive dental schools. if you don't believe me, find an ADEA guide to schools. again, it was a matter of looking at it from an unbiased perspective. i go to this school and have had an average dental school experience. i wouldn't trade it for the world.
did i say that by going here, you'll live the rest of your life in debt? please stop and read. if someone can save 200,000 just by going to a cheaper school, you mean to tell me they won't be in a better spot financially for a foreseeable decade (at least)? i'm sorry but have you looked at a loan statement for someone who is pulling 100% of loans at NYU?