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Is it appropriate to ask my past preceptor if they have an opening after I graduate. One of them casually offered to let me work as an intern but the scheduling wouldn't have worked out during rotations.

It's not inappropriate to formally ask if they're hiring.


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Is it appropriate to ask my past preceptor if they have an opening after I graduate. One of them casually offered to let me work as an intern but the scheduling wouldn't have worked out during rotations.

I think it is important that you let them know you like working there and you are available. Maybe not tell everyone but let the hiring pharmacist/supervisor know.
 
We don't have a pgy-2 program here. This is a previous student doing one elsewhere that we'd like to hire.

We've hired 33% of our PGY-1s so far. Sometimes the timing just isn't right.


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How many residents do you have? Is it getting harder for residents to find a hospital job?
 
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How many residents do you have? Is it getting harder for residents to find a hospital job?

2/year.

So far, so good.

I know I'm many years out from graduation and residency, but I have never regretted the residencies. Of the jobs I've applied for since graduation (both specialist jobs and per diem staffing jobs) I've been invited to interview within 48 hours for >90% of them. And usually closer to 24 hours.

No one can ever take that away from you. Even if you just do it to "check the box" it's checked.


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It's not inappropriate to formally ask if they're hiring.


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I was thinking of stopping by at the pharmacy one day to say hi to them and then ask them if they can bring me back as a grad intern or something after I graduate. Do you think that's a good idea?

I'm not sure if they are hiring anyone. My preceptor was casually saying to me that she would've considered hiring me as an intern if I didn't have any more rotations. I was so sad because I loved that rotation and my other rotations schedule completely conflicted with any possibility of working there as an intern.
 
Hi everyone, I'm hoping you guys can help. I am trying to set up new contracts for Industry APPE rotations at my school, but I have been having a difficult time making connections with the relavent personnel.
Does anyone have contact information for preceptors at companies such as Pfizer, Novartis or Sanofi?
Thanks in advance.


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Hi everyone, I'm hoping you guys can help. I am trying to set up new contracts for Industry APPE rotations at my school, but I have been having a difficult time making connections with the relavent personnel.
Does anyone have contact information for preceptors at companies such as Pfizer, Novartis or Sanofi?
Thanks in advance.


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Look for industrial fellowship sites. Their contact info should be posted there.
 
how many jobs have you gotten?!

I have gotten 3 offers from my rotations (2 formals and 1 informal). Your rotation is where you get to shine!
 
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Hi everyone, I'm hoping you guys can help. I am trying to set up new contracts for Industry APPE rotations at my school, but I have been having a difficult time making connections with the relavent personnel.
Does anyone have contact information for preceptors at companies such as Pfizer, Novartis or Sanofi?
Thanks in advance.


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just curious, would your school be paying for these sites? how much?
 
just curious, would your school be paying for these sites? how much?

I have not heard of my school paying for the contracts but each student is financially responsible for the expenses that accompany their rotation


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Hi everyone!

I hope your rotations are going well. This is kinda off topic but I'm currently on an ambulatory care rotation and will be doing a presentation soon. Unfortunately I'm having a difficult time thinking of a topic that can be presented in less than 20 minutes. Any suggestions?
 
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Hi everyone!

I hope your rotations are going well. This is kinda off topic but I'm currently on an ambulatory care rotation and will be doing a presentation soon. Unfortunately I'm having a difficult time thinking of a topic that can be presented in less than 20 minutes. Any suggestions?

How about the latest hypertension guidelines?
 
Hi everyone!

I hope your rotations are going well. This is kinda off topic but I'm currently on an ambulatory care rotation and will be doing a presentation soon. Unfortunately I'm having a difficult time thinking of a topic that can be presented in less than 20 minutes. Any suggestions?

Didn't the ADA just release their new diabetes guidelines?
 
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They did, mostly because of new data coming out speaking to the benefits of jardiance (empagliflozin) and victoza (liraglutide) for patients with diabetes and CVD. If I'm remembering correctly, they waited for the empagliflozin data to come out before finalizing the guidelines even. I may be misremembering reading this somewhere but I know for a fact that the CVD benefits played a big role in its inclusion.


Hi everyone!

I hope your rotations are going well. This is kinda off topic but I'm currently on an ambulatory care rotation and will be doing a presentation soon. Unfortunately I'm having a difficult time thinking of a topic that can be presented in less than 20 minutes. Any suggestions?
I know your pain. I have a patient case where the patient had necrotizing fasciitis on my current medicine rotation and I'm trying to figure out how to shrink that into 10-12 minutes for a residency interview. Seriously, super interesting stuff and too fascia-nating to pass up!
 
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They did, mostly because of new data coming out speaking to the benefits of jardiance (empagliflozin) and victoza (liraglutide) for patients with diabetes and CVD. If I'm remembering correctly, they waited for the empagliflozin data to come out before finalizing the guidelines even. I may be misremembering reading this somewhere but I know for a fact that the CVD benefits played a big role in its inclusion.



I know your pain. I have a patient case where the patient had necrotizing fasciitis on my current medicine rotation and I'm trying to figure out how to shrink that into 10-12 minutes for a residency interview. Seriously, super interesting stuff and too fascia-nating to pass up!

I read there is not much changes. Anybody know why there is a new DM guideline every year? For cholesterol and hypertension, a new guideline is released every 3-5 years.
 
Thanks for your input Bbed and Merrem_Covers_Sinusitis! I'll take a look into those topics!
 
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Thanks for your input Bbed and Merrem_Covers_Sinusitis! I'll take a look into those topics!

have you decided on a topic? what did you decide?
 
They did, mostly because of new data coming out speaking to the benefits of jardiance (empagliflozin) and victoza (liraglutide) for patients with diabetes and CVD. If I'm remembering correctly, they waited for the empagliflozin data to come out before finalizing the guidelines even. I may be misremembering reading this somewhere but I know for a fact that the CVD benefits played a big role in its inclusion.



I know your pain. I have a patient case where the patient had necrotizing fasciitis on my current medicine rotation and I'm trying to figure out how to shrink that into 10-12 minutes for a residency interview. Seriously, super interesting stuff and too fascia-nating to pass up!

That is some good info! Don't know why they need to update it every year tho when there is not much change from year to year.
 
Out of all of your preceptors, how many do you still keep in contact with today?
 
Out of all of your preceptors, how many do you still keep in contact with today?

I keep in contact with all my preceptors not only because we have become friends but also because they are good work reference. Do you?
 
I keep in contact with all my preceptors not only because we have become friends but also because they are good work reference. Do you?

Just one. I agree with you tho
 
I just befriended them on FB AFTER my rotation. That is a great way to keep in touch.

I know an intern who ended up marrying his preceptor lol

Wonder if he got an A on that rotation
 
Is it appropriate to ask my past preceptor if they have an opening after I graduate. One of them casually offered to let me work as an intern but the scheduling wouldn't have worked out during rotations.

Yes and yes; you need to let them know you are available. Be professional about it. Do it privately
 
Is it appropriate to ask my past preceptor if they have an opening after I graduate. One of them casually offered to let me work as an intern but the scheduling wouldn't have worked out during rotations.

Have you done it? How did it go?
 
I am just curious....what are some benefits of being a preceptor?
 
does anyone have experience with a Walgreen's administration rotation?
 
Awesome! If you don't mind, could you expand on your experience (duties, expectations etc..) ?
It was a LOT of calling pharmacies and asking them questions about different metrics. Also a lot of just shadowing the pharmacy supervisor (don't recall the WG term for then and I think it has changed since my rotation) and sitting in on conference calls and district meetings. It's not going to help you pass your boards but it can help put you in the right position to network and meet the right people to get a job.

If you plan to work retail it's a great way to see how the district office actually works and what their priorities really are.

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It was a LOT of calling pharmacies and asking them questions about different metrics. Also a lot of just shadowing the pharmacy supervisor (don't recall the WG term for then and I think it has changed since my rotation) and sitting in on conference calls and district meetings. It's not going to help you pass your boards but it can help put you in the right position to network and meet the right people to get a job.

If you plan to work retail it's a great way to see how the district office actually works and what their priorities really are.

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Fom 0 to 10 (best), what number would you rate this rotation?

Do you need prior retail experience to get this rotation?
 
Fom 0 to 10 (best), what number would you rate this rotation?

Do you need prior retail experience to get this rotation?
0-10. I can't rate it. If you plan to work Walgreens probably a 10. If you plan to work a hospital, probably -5. Just depends on the person and their goals.

No.

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0-10. I can't rate it. If you plan to work Walgreens probably a 10. If you plan to work a hospital, probably -5. Just depends on the person and their goals.

No.

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since you didn't have any prior retail experience, did your school require you to do an additional community rotation?
 
since you didn't have any prior retail experience, did your school require you to do an additional community rotation?

at my school, we just had to have retail experience before we can work at the corp.
 
at my school, we just had to have retail experience before we can work at the corp.

that makes sense...working for at corp is not exactly retail experience. is there like a number of years you must work in retail?
 
Block 1 (May) - Advanced health systems @ teaching hospital in the oncology department
Block 2 (June) - Advanced Community Practice @ Walgreens
Block 3 (July) - Nuclear Pharmacy practice @ Cardinal health
Block 4 (Aug.) - Drug information @ teaching hospital in their IDS department
Block 5 (Sep.) - CVS management @ CVS
Block 6 (Jan.) - Ambulatory Care @ suburban medical center
Block 7 (Feb.) - Acute Care @ teaching hospital in the infectious disease department
Block 8 - off

-all 5 weeks long

Goal: Pass all APPEs of course. Haven't decided on if I want to do residency (hospital) or community (retail, managed care) practice yet, I'll give myself until around block 5 to narrow it down, right before midyear. All i know is I don't want to be couped up all day not speaking to anyone. I have hospital and retail experience, working in both settings before and during pharmacy school for a total of 5yrs now and I can't really say I like one over the other so its still up in the air for me.

any advice at all? am i being to lax?
 
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Block 1 (May) - Advanced health systems @ teaching hospital in the oncology department
Block 2 (June) - Advanced Community Practice @ Walgreens
Block 3 (July) - Nuclear Pharmacy practice @ Cardinal health
Block 4 (Aug.) - Drug information @ teaching hospital in their IDS department
Block 5 (Sep.) - CVS management @ CVS
Block 6 (Jan.) - Ambulatory Care @ suburban medical center
Block 7 (Feb.) - Acute Care @ teaching hospital in the infectious disease department
Block 8 - off

-all 5 weeks long

Goal: Pass all APPEs of course. Haven't decided on if I want to do residency (hospital) or community (retail, managed care) practice yet, I'll give myself until around block 5 to narrow it down, right before midyear. All i know is I don't want to be couped up all day not speaking to anyone. I have hospital and retail experience, working in both settings before and during pharmacy school for a total of 5yrs now and I can't really say I like one over the other so its still up in the air for me.

any advice at all? am i being to lax?

If you want to do a residency I would do acute care first. Would help you with the interview
 
If you want to do a residency I would do acute care first. Would help you with the interview
wish i could do it like that, but that how it was assigned to me
 
wish i could do it like that, but that how it was assigned to me

have you talked to the head person? they are generally understandable when you tell them you are doing a residency. Residency also likes to see you take acute care and do well in it.
 
Block 1 (May) - Advanced health systems @ teaching hospital in the oncology department
Block 2 (June) - Advanced Community Practice @ Walgreens
Block 3 (July) - Nuclear Pharmacy practice @ Cardinal health
Block 4 (Aug.) - Drug information @ teaching hospital in their IDS department
Block 5 (Sep.) - CVS management @ CVS
Block 6 (Jan.) - Ambulatory Care @ suburban medical center
Block 7 (Feb.) - Acute Care @ teaching hospital in the infectious disease department
Block 8 - off

-all 5 weeks long

Goal: Pass all APPEs of course. Haven't decided on if I want to do residency (hospital) or community (retail, managed care) practice yet, I'll give myself until around block 5 to narrow it down, right before midyear. All i know is I don't want to be couped up all day not speaking to anyone. I have hospital and retail experience, working in both settings before and during pharmacy school for a total of 5yrs now and I can't really say I like one over the other so its still up in the air for me.

any advice at all? am i being to lax?

The first 5 blocks are not really gear toward hospital. How much hospital experience do you have so far?
 
The first 5 blocks are not really gear toward hospital. How much hospital experience do you have so far?
I've got a year under my belt in Hospital work as a student/intern
 
When I was going through rotations... Time seriously flies.

Block 1: Ambulatory Care mixed Community w/ Kaiser Permanente Northern California (Wrote my residency letter and helped me match 1st choice)
Block 2: Off
Block 3: Institutional mixed Pediatric Psychiatry w/ Fransciscan Children's Boston (Received a job offer full time for this one)
Block 4: Internal Medicine mixed Infectious Diseases w/ Brigham and Women's Hospital Boston
Block 5: Off
Block 6: Ambulatory Care mixed Cardiology w/ Newton-Wellesley Hospital
Block 7: Pediatric Cardiology w/ Boston Children's Hospital
Block 8: Academia and Teaching w/ school

I honestly miss rotations and I loved every single one. I still keep in contact w/ my preceptors on FB and talk to them occasionally for mentorship as well as when I fly back to Boston I visit !
 
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Block 1 (May) - Advanced health systems @ teaching hospital in the oncology department
Block 2 (June) - Advanced Community Practice @ Walgreens
Block 3 (July) - Nuclear Pharmacy practice @ Cardinal health
Block 4 (Aug.) - Drug information @ teaching hospital in their IDS department
Block 5 (Sep.) - CVS management @ CVS
Block 6 (Jan.) - Ambulatory Care @ suburban medical center
Block 7 (Feb.) - Acute Care @ teaching hospital in the infectious disease department
Block 8 - off

-all 5 weeks long

Goal: Pass all APPEs of course. Haven't decided on if I want to do residency (hospital) or community (retail, managed care) practice yet, I'll give myself until around block 5 to narrow it down, right before midyear. All i know is I don't want to be couped up all day not speaking to anyone. I have hospital and retail experience, working in both settings before and during pharmacy school for a total of 5yrs now and I can't really say I like one over the other so its still up in the air for me.

any advice at all? am i being to lax?

I will be at midyear this year to help prospective residents, but what I would recommend doing is doing research on the programs now and figuring out which ones you're looking to go into and whether you want a certain type of hospital or certain type of layout in terms of program. Also, if you can, do continue working as you go through rotations :).

There are community residencies as well (1 of my colleagues matched in Ohio/Michigan) w/ one. :)
 
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When I was going through rotations... Time seriously flies.

Block 1: Ambulatory Care mixed Community w/ Kaiser Permanente Northern California (Wrote my residency letter and helped me match 1st choice)
Block 2: Off
Block 3: Institutional mixed Pediatric Psychiatry w/ Fransciscan Children's Boston (Received a job offer full time for this one)
Block 4: Internal Medicine mixed Infectious Diseases w/ Brigham and Women's Hospital Boston
Block 5: Off
Block 6: Ambulatory Care mixed Cardiology w/ Newton-Wellesley Hospital
Block 7: Pediatric Cardiology w/ Boston Children's Hospital
Block 8: Academia and Teaching w/ school

I honestly miss rotations and I loved every single one. I still keep in contact w/ my preceptors on FB and talk to them occasionally for mentorship as well as when I fly back to Boston I visit !

which site was your best/worst rotation?
 
which site was your best/worst rotation?

Honestly, I didn't think any of my rotations were bad. I got different experiences from each one and they all helped round me into preparing for residency. My favorite rotation was probably a tie between internal medicine/ID, my pediatric cardiology/transplant and my community/am care rotation. I saw the weirdest things that normal hospitals wouldn't have seen, and was pushed farther than my limits by my harsh but loving preceptors. :)
 
Honestly, I didn't think any of my rotations were bad. I got different experiences from each one and they all helped round me into preparing for residency. My favorite rotation was probably a tie between internal medicine/ID, my pediatric cardiology/transplant and my community/am care rotation. I saw the weirdest things that normal hospitals wouldn't have seen, and was pushed farther than my limits by my harsh but loving preceptors. :)

good stuffs...what is your future plan?
 
good stuffs...what is your future plan?

I'm currently a resident at a community teaching hospital with the high possibility of staying on (they hired 3 of their 4 residents because the 4th one is doing PGY2). I'm either going to stay or going to hit PGY-2 knowing my threshold level. But I've fallen in love w/ the area so much that honestly, I'm gonna stay haha. And they have the clinical position that I want since their expanding so rapidly and I dont need to do PGY2 for it unless I wanted to ^^
 
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