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Discussion in 'Pharmacy' started by Bbed, Apr 9, 2014.

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  1. mark110

    mark110 2+ Year Member

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    how many jobs have you gotten?!
     
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  3. Bbed

    Bbed 2+ Year Member

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    Do you usually hire your of pgy-2?
     
  4. njac

    njac Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    We don't have a pgy-2 program here. This is a previous student doing one elsewhere that we'd like to hire.

    We've hired 33% of our PGY-1s so far. Sometimes the timing just isn't right.


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  5. Oink

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    Is it appropriate to ask my past preceptor if they have an opening after I graduate. One of them casually offered to let me work as an intern but the scheduling wouldn't have worked out during rotations.
     
  6. njac

    njac Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    It's not inappropriate to formally ask if they're hiring.


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  7. Bbed

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    I think it is important that you let them know you like working there and you are available. Maybe not tell everyone but let the hiring pharmacist/supervisor know.
     
  8. Bbed

    Bbed 2+ Year Member

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    How many residents do you have? Is it getting harder for residents to find a hospital job?
     
  9. njac

    njac Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    2/year.

    So far, so good.

    I know I'm many years out from graduation and residency, but I have never regretted the residencies. Of the jobs I've applied for since graduation (both specialist jobs and per diem staffing jobs) I've been invited to interview within 48 hours for >90% of them. And usually closer to 24 hours.

    No one can ever take that away from you. Even if you just do it to "check the box" it's checked.


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  10. Oink

    Oink 5+ Year Member

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    I was thinking of stopping by at the pharmacy one day to say hi to them and then ask them if they can bring me back as a grad intern or something after I graduate. Do you think that's a good idea?

    I'm not sure if they are hiring anyone. My preceptor was casually saying to me that she would've considered hiring me as an intern if I didn't have any more rotations. I was so sad because I loved that rotation and my other rotations schedule completely conflicted with any possibility of working there as an intern.
     
  11. LandyPharmD

    LandyPharmD 2+ Year Member

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    Hi everyone, I'm hoping you guys can help. I am trying to set up new contracts for Industry APPE rotations at my school, but I have been having a difficult time making connections with the relavent personnel.
    Does anyone have contact information for preceptors at companies such as Pfizer, Novartis or Sanofi?
    Thanks in advance.


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  12. Bbed

    Bbed 2+ Year Member

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    Look for industrial fellowship sites. Their contact info should be posted there.
     
  13. Bbed

    Bbed 2+ Year Member

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    I have gotten 3 offers from my rotations (2 formals and 1 informal). Your rotation is where you get to shine!
     
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  14. Bbed

    Bbed 2+ Year Member

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    just curious, would your school be paying for these sites? how much?
     
  15. LandyPharmD

    LandyPharmD 2+ Year Member

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    I have not heard of my school paying for the contracts but each student is financially responsible for the expenses that accompany their rotation


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  16. ACat

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    Hi everyone!

    I hope your rotations are going well. This is kinda off topic but I'm currently on an ambulatory care rotation and will be doing a presentation soon. Unfortunately I'm having a difficult time thinking of a topic that can be presented in less than 20 minutes. Any suggestions?
     
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  17. Bbed

    Bbed 2+ Year Member

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    How about the latest hypertension guidelines?
     
  18. Bbed

    Bbed 2+ Year Member

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    Didn't the ADA just release their new diabetes guidelines?
     
  19. Merrem_Covers_Sinusitis

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    They did, mostly because of new data coming out speaking to the benefits of jardiance (empagliflozin) and victoza (liraglutide) for patients with diabetes and CVD. If I'm remembering correctly, they waited for the empagliflozin data to come out before finalizing the guidelines even. I may be misremembering reading this somewhere but I know for a fact that the CVD benefits played a big role in its inclusion.


    I know your pain. I have a patient case where the patient had necrotizing fasciitis on my current medicine rotation and I'm trying to figure out how to shrink that into 10-12 minutes for a residency interview. Seriously, super interesting stuff and too fascia-nating to pass up!
     
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  20. Bbed

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    I read there is not much changes. Anybody know why there is a new DM guideline every year? For cholesterol and hypertension, a new guideline is released every 3-5 years.
     
  21. ACat

    ACat 5+ Year Member

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    Thanks for your input Bbed and Merrem_Covers_Sinusitis! I'll take a look into those topics!
     
  22. Bbed

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    have you decided on a topic? what did you decide?
     
  23. Bbed

    Bbed 2+ Year Member

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    That is some good info! Don't know why they need to update it every year tho when there is not much change from year to year.
     
  24. mark110

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    Out of all of your preceptors, how many do you still keep in contact with today?
     
  25. Bbed

    Bbed 2+ Year Member

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    I keep in contact with all my preceptors not only because we have become friends but also because they are good work reference. Do you?
     
  26. mark110

    mark110 2+ Year Member

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    Just one. I agree with you tho
     
  27. Bbed

    Bbed 2+ Year Member

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    I just befriended them on FB AFTER my rotation. That is a great way to keep in touch.
     
  28. kdt110

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    I know an intern who ended up marrying his preceptor lol

    Wonder if he got an A on that rotation
     
  29. corey407woc

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    I think she got a D


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  30. Bbed

    Bbed 2+ Year Member

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    HAHA! Anybody know of any scandalous tales on rotation?
     
  31. mark110

    mark110 2+ Year Member

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    Yes and yes; you need to let them know you are available. Be professional about it. Do it privately
     
  32. mark110

    mark110 2+ Year Member

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    Have you done it? How did it go?
     
  33. mark110

    mark110 2+ Year Member

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    I am just curious....what are some benefits of being a preceptor?
     
  34. Rouelle

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    Having an intern who can do transfers, take oral scripts, check Dr voicemails, give immunizations, to name a few.

    Plus, everyone has to learn. Why not help out?
     
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  35. hotcheet0s

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    does anyone have experience with a Walgreen's administration rotation?
     
  36. owlegrad

    owlegrad Uncontrollable Sarcasm Machine Staff Member SDN Administrator 7+ Year Member

    Yes.

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  37. hotcheet0s

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    Awesome! If you don't mind, could you expand on your experience (duties, expectations etc..) ?
     
  38. owlegrad

    owlegrad Uncontrollable Sarcasm Machine Staff Member SDN Administrator 7+ Year Member

    It was a LOT of calling pharmacies and asking them questions about different metrics. Also a lot of just shadowing the pharmacy supervisor (don't recall the WG term for then and I think it has changed since my rotation) and sitting in on conference calls and district meetings. It's not going to help you pass your boards but it can help put you in the right position to network and meet the right people to get a job.

    If you plan to work retail it's a great way to see how the district office actually works and what their priorities really are.

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  39. Bbed

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    Fom 0 to 10 (best), what number would you rate this rotation?

    Do you need prior retail experience to get this rotation?
     
  40. owlegrad

    owlegrad Uncontrollable Sarcasm Machine Staff Member SDN Administrator 7+ Year Member

    0-10. I can't rate it. If you plan to work Walgreens probably a 10. If you plan to work a hospital, probably -5. Just depends on the person and their goals.

    No.

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  41. Bbed

    Bbed 2+ Year Member

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    since you didn't have any prior retail experience, did your school require you to do an additional community rotation?
     
  42. mark110

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    at my school, we just had to have retail experience before we can work at the corp.
     
  43. Bbed

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    that makes sense...working for at corp is not exactly retail experience. is there like a number of years you must work in retail?
     
  44. Xeal0007

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    Block 1 (May) - Advanced health systems @ teaching hospital in the oncology department
    Block 2 (June) - Advanced Community Practice @ Walgreens
    Block 3 (July) - Nuclear Pharmacy practice @ Cardinal health
    Block 4 (Aug.) - Drug information @ teaching hospital in their IDS department
    Block 5 (Sep.) - CVS management @ CVS
    Block 6 (Jan.) - Ambulatory Care @ suburban medical center
    Block 7 (Feb.) - Acute Care @ teaching hospital in the infectious disease department
    Block 8 - off

    -all 5 weeks long

    Goal: Pass all APPEs of course. Haven't decided on if I want to do residency (hospital) or community (retail, managed care) practice yet, I'll give myself until around block 5 to narrow it down, right before midyear. All i know is I don't want to be couped up all day not speaking to anyone. I have hospital and retail experience, working in both settings before and during pharmacy school for a total of 5yrs now and I can't really say I like one over the other so its still up in the air for me.

    any advice at all? am i being to lax?
     
  45. Bbed

    Bbed 2+ Year Member

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    If you want to do a residency I would do acute care first. Would help you with the interview
     
  46. Xeal0007

    Xeal0007 5+ Year Member

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    wish i could do it like that, but that how it was assigned to me
     
  47. Bbed

    Bbed 2+ Year Member

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    have you talked to the head person? they are generally understandable when you tell them you are doing a residency. Residency also likes to see you take acute care and do well in it.
     
  48. mark110

    mark110 2+ Year Member

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    The first 5 blocks are not really gear toward hospital. How much hospital experience do you have so far?
     
  49. Xeal0007

    Xeal0007 5+ Year Member

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    I've got a year under my belt in Hospital work as a student/intern
     
  50. When I was going through rotations... Time seriously flies.

    Block 1: Ambulatory Care mixed Community w/ Kaiser Permanente Northern California (Wrote my residency letter and helped me match 1st choice)
    Block 2: Off
    Block 3: Institutional mixed Pediatric Psychiatry w/ Fransciscan Children's Boston (Received a job offer full time for this one)
    Block 4: Internal Medicine mixed Infectious Diseases w/ Brigham and Women's Hospital Boston
    Block 5: Off
    Block 6: Ambulatory Care mixed Cardiology w/ Newton-Wellesley Hospital
    Block 7: Pediatric Cardiology w/ Boston Children's Hospital
    Block 8: Academia and Teaching w/ school

    I honestly miss rotations and I loved every single one. I still keep in contact w/ my preceptors on FB and talk to them occasionally for mentorship as well as when I fly back to Boston I visit !
     
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  51. I will be at midyear this year to help prospective residents, but what I would recommend doing is doing research on the programs now and figuring out which ones you're looking to go into and whether you want a certain type of hospital or certain type of layout in terms of program. Also, if you can, do continue working as you go through rotations :).

    There are community residencies as well (1 of my colleagues matched in Ohio/Michigan) w/ one. :)
     

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