The Official "Should I Retake" Thread?

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i got a 37N...........
14PS, 10V, 13BS

i knew my bull**** is gonna come back and bite me in the ass one day..... i just didn't know it's this bad..........


like, how heavy do the not-so-top school look at your WS?
schools like columbia, vandy, albert?
 
Hey, I've just been a lurker on these forums for the last while, and I really need some advice because I'm in the oddest situation.

I did not study for this MCAT. When I say I didn't study, I mean here in Canada most med schools (all of the ones I'm applying for) take your best score and don't even look at other scores, so rewriting means absolutely nothing. I have already signed up for August 19th, and have always prepared as if this were my real mcat date.

I signed up on the last day of late registration at the advice of a friend who teaches Kaplan's, said it would be good test-day practice and since it makes no difference I should write.

I signed up for Kaplan's assuming I would fail miserably because I didn't study, I studied the night before by flipping through the easiest physics and chemistry topics, over the course of 4 hours after a final. My finals were set up so that they hugged the mcat and I couldn't afford any more time (Human Phys, Cell Bio, Organic B, Vector Geo).

Now the complicated part. My scores are very obviously indicative of how little I managed to cram in. I obviously had a lot of bio sciences this year so that was pretty good but physical I took a beating.

PS 8/BS 12/Verbal 14/Q so I have a 34Q.

I know that PS 8 looks like balls. Is it worth retaking it seriously? If I bomb the mcat, I get my $1500 from Kaplan's back, minus the cost of the MCAT itself $200 CAD ish. Money really does mean very little, not that I have very much just if we all get into med school this will become peanuts.

I got lucky and I'm thankful for it, I just don't know that I could ever get a 14 on verbal again (I got a 10 at Kaplan's diagnostic but generally average 12-13ish), but I can do better in physical (11 on Kaplan's diagnostic) I just had no time to study and got HARD passages.

I think after having a summer of studying for it I may be able to get 36-40 hopefully, and definately with a better distribution of the marks.

Thoughts?
 
29 Q...

10 Verbal
9 Physical
10 Bio

I really feel like I should retake considering I hadn't taken most of physics (I hadn't even got to fluids!) but a 29 seems to be a pretty competitive score. Also, this was my worst Verbal, I was averaging about a 12 on practice tests, although my overall score was at the high end of my average range.

What do you guys think?
 
RokChalkJayhawk said:
29 Q...

10 Verbal
9 Physical
10 Bio

I really feel like I should retake considering I hadn't taken most of physics (I hadn't even got to fluids!) but a 29 seems to be a pretty competitive score. Also, this was my worst Verbal, I was averaging about a 12 on practice tests, although my overall score was at the high end of my average range.

What do you guys think?
if the other two were on the high end i wouldn't bother.
 
RokChalkJayhawk said:
29 Q...

10 Verbal
9 Physical
10 Bio

I really feel like I should retake considering I hadn't taken most of physics (I hadn't even got to fluids!) but a 29 seems to be a pretty competitive score. Also, this was my worst Verbal, I was averaging about a 12 on practice tests, although my overall score was at the high end of my average range.

What do you guys think?

Yeah... I still believe that 28's and 29's are the most troubling scores for people considering a retake. But ask yourself this: if you had even one more point on the PS, a 10 instead of a 9, how would you feel? It's pretty arbitrary, but I'm willing to bet you'd be perfectly content scoring a 30 with 10/10/10.

Doesn't that seem a little absurd to you?

I think you'll pan out pretty well with what you have right now, assuming your GPA is solid. The other side of the numbers equation is the GPA. If you have a 3.7 GPA or higher, we shouldn't even be having this discussion. You should be sending out your AMCAS instead. If your GPA's a 3.5-3.7 I'd still say you're pretty competitive at some schools, and you should pick out good schools (i.e. have a good range and variety on the schools you pick!) If you're a 3.3 or so... well, that 1 point is starting to look more important, neh?

Yeah it's all BS in the end... :meanie:


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Edit: I see your overall is a 3.69 and sciences is a 3.6. You're competitive. Apply. And be confident. And choose many schools, and a good variety. Good luck 🙂
 
ak1alive said:
crazy_cavalier:
great post. thank you very much for the depth of your comments. i posted earlier with my stats (30yr old lawyer from cali: 9v,12p,10b, Q). i'm thinking of retaking in august but don't know how it will effect my application.

Do the med schools consider your application incomplete if you register for the august MCAT? this really effects my decision. i figure that if they consider my application complete and process it along with the others then i can sit for the august test and feel it out. if it do great, then i'll keep it. if not, then i'll just cancel it and still be in the running with my april score.

thanks again for your comments.

Yes, the med schools will consider your application incomplete if you sign up for the August MCAT. They will only look at your file in October when the August MCAT results come out. Your score is good, so I think you should apply now.
 
BennyBooBYU said:
I got a 28Q with 10 PS, 10 BS, and 8 in verbal. I'm a Texas resident applying to Texas MD schools with a 3.8 overall GPA and 3.6 BCPM. What are my chances at UT schools and is that verbal going to kill me? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!! 😕


you're a Texan resident so I think you'll be fine with those scores. If you take a look at the #'s of residents they take, you'll feel safe. Now if you were an out-of-state, that would be a completely different ball game...
 
DrVanNostran said:
Damn it I have to cross of Wake Forest 🙁

Haha, well, take it with a grain of salt. My GPA was a 3.5, I think that added to the reason they iced me at Wake. Bastards. An 8 in VR is really that low that you won't even send me a secondary? They can go to hell. Although I guess I should thank them for at least screening and saving me the expense of another $100 rejection. App fees are outrageous :meanie:
 
So if we mark "yes, I will retake the August MCAT" our application is not looked at at all?

If I were to mark "No" and retake the test would I still be allowed to submit that score?
 
RokChalkJayhawk said:
So if we mark "yes, I will retake the August MCAT" our application is not looked at at all?

If I were to mark "No" and retake the test would I still be allowed to submit that score?

It's dishonest for you to mark "No" and then go ahead and retake in August. Do not be dishonest. Ever. They HATE that.

I sent you a PM. I don't think you should retake. But if you do - and that's your choice, no one else's - then here's what will happen: you will apply through AMCAS as usual, you can submit it whenever (although try to submit early)... when the schools on your list receive your AMCAS and process it, they will send you secondaries. Fill those out, send them back to the schools. Then the schools WAIT until they get your August scores. That means you'll be twiddling your thumbs and waiting on your ass until October before you hear anything at all from any of the schools. At some places, especially high-applicant-volume and at rolling schools, it'll take even longer than October before you even get a decision as to whether you're invited for an interview - and trust me, those interview spots fill up fast. You're at a disadvantage by doing the August MCAT, but if your file is hella strong, then guess what? You'll be fine. The delay won't hurt you much. But if you're mediocre or average, your best chance of survival is EARLY, because all the superstars show up out of nowhere in the Fall and BAM, you're left up $#!t creek.

I thought I made that clear in my PM to you, but hopefully this clears things up. Good luck whatever you do!
 
VR: 6
PS: 11
BIO: 10
WRITING: M

accum GPA: 3.5
science GPA: 3.7 (my extra math classes for engineering major pulled this up)

BIO and BIOMED ENGINEERING double major

should I retake????? 😕 😕 😕

and English is not my first language
 
crazy_cavalier said:
It's dishonest for you to mark "No" and then go ahead and retake in August. Do not be dishonest. Ever. They HATE that.

I sent you a PM. I don't think you should retake. But if you do - and that's your choice, no one else's - then here's what will happen: you will apply through AMCAS as usual, you can submit it whenever (although try to submit early)... when the schools on your list receive your AMCAS and process it, they will send you secondaries. Fill those out, send them back to the schools. Then the schools WAIT until they get your August scores. That means you'll be twiddling your thumbs and waiting on your ass until October before you hear anything at all from any of the schools. At some places, especially high-applicant-volume and at rolling schools, it'll take even longer than October before you even get a decision as to whether you're invited for an interview - and trust me, those interview spots fill up fast. You're at a disadvantage by doing the August MCAT, but if your file is hella strong, then guess what? You'll be fine. The delay won't hurt you much. But if you're mediocre or average, your best chance of survival is EARLY, because all the superstars show up out of nowhere in the Fall and BAM, you're left up $#!t creek.

I thought I made that clear in my PM to you, but hopefully this clears things up. Good luck whatever you do!


Thanks for all the help Cavalier! I am still thinking about retaking, but all my friends are trying to convince me otherwise (Doesn't hurt that they are all 30+)
 
RokChalkJayhawk said:
Thanks for all the help Cavalier! I am still thinking about retaking, but all my friends are trying to convince me otherwise (Doesn't hurt that they are all 30+)
What were you averaging on practice tests overall?
 
msiu79 said:
VR: 6
PS: 11
BIO: 10
WRITING: M

accum GPA: 3.5
science GPA: 3.7 (my extra math classes for engineering major pulled this up)

BIO and BIOMED ENGINEERING double major

should I retake????? 😕 😕 😕

and English is not my first language


From what it seems, a 6 will keep you out of competitive places. It also seems that Verbal is the hardest to improve, unless you feel you can get substantially better at the english language in the next 2 months. Cavalier earlier posted that a 27 is the definite retake number, so, consider that. Your scores in Bio and PS are good, so that helps, but the 6 is definitely a little low.
 
msiu79 said:
VR: 6
PS: 11
BIO: 10
WRITING: M

accum GPA: 3.5
science GPA: 3.7 (my extra math classes for engineering major pulled this up)

BIO and BIOMED ENGINEERING double major

should I retake????? 😕 😕 😕

and English is not my first language
when did you come to the states? i would definitely retake
 
kevster2001 said:
What were you averaging on practice tests overall?


I was averaging a 27-29, but that was scoring a 13 or 12 on Verbal and an 11 or 12 on bio with generally a 5 or a 6 on Physical. My 9 on the actual MCAT was the best I ever did on PS (I credit my low scores to the fact I still don't know what Gen Chem really is and that I have not completed the prerequisite physics coursework)

I studied like crazy for PS the month leading up to the test and my score improved dramatically. I just feel if I had even had two 11s on VR and BS (which wouldn't be asking for much) I'd be sitting a lot prettier for a better school.
 
RokChalkJayhawk said:
I was averaging a 27-29, but that was scoring a 13 or 12 on Verbal and an 11 or 12 on bio with generally a 5 or a 6 on Physical. My 9 on the actual MCAT was the best I ever did on PS (I credit my low scores to the fact I still don't know what Gen Chem really is and that I have not completed the prerequisite physics coursework)

I studied like crazy for PS the month leading up to the test and my score improved dramatically. I just feel if I had even had two 11s on VR and BS (which wouldn't be asking for much) I'd be sitting a lot prettier for a better school.
it feels like too big of a risk to me. Your score right now is good enough for alot of schools depending on your other stuff. Unless someone is 27 or below i wouldn't recommend retaking UNLESS they were hitting significantly higher on practice tests.
 
kevster2001 said:
it feels like too big of a risk to me. Your score right now is good enough for alot of schools depending on your other stuff. Unless someone is 27 or below i wouldn't recommend retaking UNLESS they were hitting significantly higher on practice tests.

Honestly though- with a 29 I am throwing all the UCs out the window.
 
This is great. I am literally filling in my AMCAS on my other computer as we talk this through... My grade transition is just bizarre when I look at it like this.
 
Ok so I fell asleep happy but now I think about it Im afraid. Im happy about my score (32) but I made an M. I know theyre not weighed very high but is that really bad?
 
Ahh Im in the same boat- I madea 32M. Oh well right?? Ill just work really hard on personal statement. RIGHT?!?!
 
35M lol, im not too worried hopefully i can get in somewhere. i had some prompt about politicians and had no idea what to write
 
Natural Light said:
Good score. Don't worry about the "M". You need to celebrate.
WS is by far the least important section.

You're not the only one..seems like a lot of people got an M for that writing section!
 
lordmickytron said:
35M lol, im not too worried hopefully i can get in somewhere. i had some prompt about politicians and had no idea what to write

Haha yeah same here... Probably doesn't help that I used substituent for constituent. 😳 And my hand writing was kinda sloppy compared to normal.

plrae12 said:
You're not the only one..seems like a lot of people got an M for that writing section!

That's probably because people with higher writing scores don't really start thread concerning their writing scores though...
 
😱 I made a 32M and I emailed someone I know on Baylor college of medicine's acceptance committee. I asked her if it was a huge deal- hopefully she'll say its ok....
 
JulietsMonster said:
😱 I made a 32M and I emailed someone I know on Baylor college of medicine's acceptance committee. I asked her if it was a huge deal- hopefully she'll say its ok....

Please keep us updated. 🙂
 
Zuerst, you're in a good place.

From what I have heard from this past year from applicants, it seems that the writing score is more of a formality than an actual factor in admissions. Granted (especially in Canada), it will be considered, but for the most part, your personal statement will supersede your writing section score. Furthermore, if anything, they will ask you during your interview why your writing score is not contingent with your writing abilities etc, in which you can claim that you had a bad day/misused a word (just curious, what was the word?)/hard to judge essays.

Either way, the only only reason to re-take an exam is if you believe (as earlier mentioned by another poster) that you can improve your score by at least 2-3 points. However, it seems that your primary focus is on redeeming yourself on the writing section, which ultimately, is a relatively unimportant and inconspicuous goal.

To put it simply: YOU'RE FINE ZUERST. Unless you really really feel you can score better, just be happy with the score you have and don't worry about your writing score.

Best of luck to all of you,
-Dr. P.
 
Dr. Pepper said:
Zuerst, you're in a good place.

...

Best of luck to all of you,
-Dr. P.

Thanks for the encouragement. Had a prompt about politicians (or was it for both?), anyways, I misused substituent for constituent. I knew someting was not right when I was writing the essay, but I pressed on because I thought a incomplete essay would probably cost me more than a misused word.

I think my chances of getting a higher numerical score is good on a retake considering that my April score was pretty much a result of a 2-week cram job. I just don't know if I really want to study for the MCAT again this summer since I'm working full time, taking classes, and the usual volunteering stuff...

BTW, you read my personal statement (thanks again for the feedbacks), was I really that bad at writing? Don't hold back, nothing really offends me. 😀
 
And looking at past statistics in the MSAR, the writing score for the accepted pool has 3 peaks centered at M, O, and Q... granted the peaks are of increasing heights from M to Q, it still implies that lower writing scorers have a shot, at least more so than a linear or exponential curve from J to T...
 
JulietsMonster said:
Ok so I fell asleep happy but now I think about it Im afraid. Im happy about my score (32) but I made an M. I know theyre not weighed very high but is that really bad?
not bad at all. i think this post deserves a bump since many questions tend to be about what to do now so to speak.
 
I also got a few messages saying that they found one of my posts useful and helpful (for once!).It was to an individual who felt like quitting after a low score, and even her parents had started to doubt her entrance into medical school. I'll post it here for the morning crowds
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monkey girl, do not be discouraged, because you got a 29 on those tests, it certianly means you can do it again, and perhaps even do better now that you have experience taking an mcat. were the topics hard? did you finish on time? test anxiety/ Now that you have seen the mcats, and know what its like, you only have room to improve. don;t let other people, including your parents, get in the way of your dreams.

And lets say that, in the instance, you do not get the score you want in a retest. go for DO!!!! Did you know that trends seem to be moving towards DO philosophy nowdays? Theres a lack of doctors now because prestigious med schools wont let more people in (even tho some schools are boosting their admissions by 30%) Thus healthcare systems are lookign for better altneratives...DO's and Physicians assistnats. Thats right! Average salaries for DOs are the same as MD's, insurance companeis pay the same, and you are in severly high demand. DO's approach to medicine is to treat the body holistically, which makes sense. MD's practice medicine by treating ad hoc basis, case by case, and only in one area. you will rarely see a cardiologist chekcing the rest of the body. DO's philosophy is to treat the body as one system that works togehter. if you have a heart problem from high cholesterol, odds are, the rest of your body is somehow suffering, which makes sense. Check here
http://www.lakemichigancollege.edu/...teo/salary.html

both DO and MD make the same salary

Physicians assistants also make apretty good salary, and depending where you live, can go up to 6 figure salaries. check here
http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/...HC07000009.html

PA's do all the surgery stuff that doctors can do, and only thing that PAs cant do is prescribe certain narcotics, which im sure you will be fine with.

Don't forget SMP's. IF you retest and get a score around a 27-30, you have the basic mimumu score to get into special masters programs such as Boston University's Masters in Medical sciences, which puts you in classes with other medical students, which significantly increase syour chances of getting into medical school. I have complete faith in you raising your score at lest 4-6 points given the right studying. Other SMP programs are georgetown's SMP, university of cincinnati's special masters, go to services.aamc.org/postbac and choose special masters program, and you can find a bunch that will help you out. IN addition. drexel has a MSP program that is speficially designed for students with low mcats and ok gpas, to improve their MCAT throughout the entire year (and is a very successful program), as well as taking graduate level classes, plenty of students have gone on to furnish successful careers as doctors. My motto is, anyone who is dedicated enough to study for the MCAts and still not be discouraged if they have to take it again, can make it to medical school. its a matter of how much you are willing to commit to your dreams, how much you are willing to get there, to show schools that you realy are committed and mature. No matter what scores or GPA is, theres always one way or another, be it 1 year to as long as 10 years, to get into medical school. Theres alot of individuals who didnt get into medical sschool the first time, be it bad GPA, or bad MCAT scores, who havbe gone on with their lives either going for profesional degrees, working altruisitically, demonstrating maturity, and retakng the MCAT years later (notice many of the highest scores here at SDN by fantastic people like oxeyn or whoever are nontraditional applicants who are in their late 20s or 30s, or even 40s, some with 1 or 2 children?) This is amessage to anyone here upset or discouraged by scores. Brush that dirt off your shoulder. pick up your kaplan books/EK books, CDs. whatever, and go forward. being a doctor is all about making mistakes, learning from them, and succeeding later in life. i have plenty of resources for individuals who need help to get into med school/DO school/Dental school etc. Do not be discouraged. As long as you demonstrte your maturty and committment, and the attitude of "do whatever it takes to get there" (in a legal way of course haha), adcoms will look at you differently then just a number. A well prepared applicaiton, with an excellent personal statement, good LOR's, decent grades, improving trends on mcat scores, dedication, and motiviation will alwyas supercede that student with a fantastic MCAT but hollow in character.
 
braluk said:
I also got a few messages saying that they found one of my posts useful and helpful (for once!).It was to an individual who felt like quitting after a low score, and even her parents had started to doubt her entrance into medical school. I'll post it here for the morning crowds
----

monkey girl, do not be discouraged, because you got a 29 on those tests, it certianly means you can do it again, and perhaps even do better now that you have experience taking an mcat. were the topics hard? did you finish on time? test anxiety/ Now that you have seen the mcats, and know what its like, you only have room to improve. don;t let other people, including your parents, get in the way of your dreams.

And lets say that, in the instance, you do not get the score you want in a retest. go for DO!!!! Did you know that trends seem to be moving towards DO philosophy nowdays? Theres a lack of doctors now because prestigious med schools wont let more people in (even tho some schools are boosting their admissions by 30%) Thus healthcare systems are lookign for better altneratives...DO's and Physicians assistnats. Thats right! Average salaries for DOs are the same as MD's, insurance companeis pay the same, and you are in severly high demand. DO's approach to medicine is to treat the body holistically, which makes sense. MD's practice medicine by treating ad hoc basis, case by case, and only in one area. you will rarely see a cardiologist chekcing the rest of the body. DO's philosophy is to treat the body as one system that works togehter. if you have a heart problem from high cholesterol, odds are, the rest of your body is somehow suffering, which makes sense. Check here
http://www.lakemichigancollege.edu/...teo/salary.html

both DO and MD make the same salary

Physicians assistants also make apretty good salary, and depending where you live, can go up to 6 figure salaries. check here
http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/...HC07000009.html

PA's do all the surgery stuff that doctors can do, and only thing that PAs cant do is prescribe certain narcotics, which im sure you will be fine with.

Don't forget SMP's. IF you retest and get a score around a 27-30, you have the basic mimumu score to get into special masters programs such as Boston University's Masters in Medical sciences, which puts you in classes with other medical students, which significantly increase syour chances of getting into medical school. I have complete faith in you raising your score at lest 4-6 points given the right studying. Other SMP programs are georgetown's SMP, university of cincinnati's special masters, go to services.aamc.org/postbac and choose special masters program, and you can find a bunch that will help you out. IN addition. drexel has a MSP program that is speficially designed for students with low mcats and ok gpas, to improve their MCAT throughout the entire year (and is a very successful program), as well as taking graduate level classes, plenty of students have gone on to furnish successful careers as doctors. My motto is, anyone who is dedicated enough to study for the MCAts and still not be discouraged if they have to take it again, can make it to medical school. its a matter of how much you are willing to commit to your dreams, how much you are willing to get there, to show schools that you realy are committed and mature. No matter what scores or GPA is, theres always one way or another, be it 1 year to as long as 10 years, to get into medical school. Theres alot of individuals who didnt get into medical sschool the first time, be it bad GPA, or bad MCAT scores, who havbe gone on with their lives either going for profesional degrees, working altruisitically, demonstrating maturity, and retakng the MCAT years later (notice many of the highest scores here at SDN by fantastic people like oxeyn or whoever are nontraditional applicants who are in their late 20s or 30s, or even 40s, some with 1 or 2 children?) This is amessage to anyone here upset or discouraged by scores. Brush that dirt off your shoulder. pick up your kaplan books/EK books, CDs. whatever, and go forward. being a doctor is all about making mistakes, learning from them, and succeeding later in life. i have plenty of resources for individuals who need help to get into med school/DO school/Dental school etc. Do not be discouraged. As long as you demonstrte your maturty and committment, and the attitude of "do whatever it takes to get there" (in a legal way of course haha), adcoms will look at you differently then just a number. A well prepared applicaiton, with an excellent personal statement, good LOR's, decent grades, improving trends on mcat scores, dedication, and motiviation will alwyas supercede that student with a fantastic MCAT but hollow in character.

I agree with the DO comments, really in the long run, DO and MD are the same thing, both are doctors. However, a 29 will get you into plenty of MD schools as well.
 
I hope I'm not kicking a dead horse here...

For all of you that are dissatisfied with your scores b/c you think you are no longer competitive with your top choice schools: remember, "diversity" is the name of the game. I think if you look at the stats for even the most highly ranked (according to the flawed U.S. News system), there is a broad range of MCAT scores and GPAs. I could be wrong here, but I don't think the diversity = ethnicity. The schools are looking for a broad range of people, experiences, and talents to contribute to the learning environment. So, do not give up hope! You will see people with a 25 MCAT score that made it into Harvard. Have faith and confidence in yourself!
 
I understand crazycavelier's point, that I should not complain about a 30+, but this 9 in VR is really disappointing. I took the cbt test and wasn't used to being unable to make notes on the page. I was a literature major in undergrad and was scoring 11-12 on verbal in practice tests.

My GPA is around 3.2 overall, 3.3 BCMP, with a 3.9 post-bacc. The upward trend is nice, but maybe not enough. Honestly, I'm not sure if I should retake and try for a better verbal score. I could really use some advice, since MDapplicants doesn't paint a very pretty picture...

Total: 34S

Physical Sciences: 14
Verbal Reasoning: 9
Biological Sciences: 11
 
My first MCAT was a 32Q
12 PS
11 BS
9 VS

I thought I bombed the verbal and could easily bring it up with a retake...which I did...but...

Retake: 30Q
10 PS
10 BS
10 VS

I know it doesn't look good to go down on a retake...but should I retake a 3rd time? It really sucks cuz I averaged around a 32-36 on practices. I feel very depressed because I know this is an application killer...
 
Monarch Kong said:
My first MCAT was a 32Q
12 PS
11 BS
9 VS

I thought I bombed the verbal and could easily bring it up with a retake...which I did...but...

Retake: 30Q
10 PS
10 BS
10 VS

I know it doesn't look good to go down on a retake...but should I retake a 3rd time? It really sucks cuz I averaged around a 32-36 on practices. I feel very depressed because I know this is an application killer...

From what I hear, adcoms view MCAT scores with a +-3 range. Repeat taking of the MCAT without significant changes in your studying/approach will vary only a couple of points. Your best score is slightly above the average matriculant, and your worst score is slightly below average. I wouldn't worry about it, unless you are gunning for a hard-to-get-into school. Adcoms will see your scores as sufficient for a student to get through medical school and handle the material presented. When you become a physician, you won't care what your MCAT score was! 🙂
 
LifetimeDoc said:
From what I hear, adcoms view MCAT scores with a +-3 range. Repeat taking of the MCAT without significant changes in your studying/approach will vary only a couple of points. Your best score is slightly above the average matriculant, and your worst score is slightly below average. I wouldn't worry about it, unless you are gunning for a hard-to-get-into school. Adcoms will see your scores as sufficient for a student to get through medical school and handle the material presented. When you become a physician, you won't care what your MCAT score was! 🙂

I've resigned myself to the fact that I will probably not get into a hard-to-get-into school, but I was wondering what type of schools am I competitive for? I have a 3.83 GPA and 3.8 Science GPA with an electrical engineering major at a good engineering school. I have good volunteering experience...very strong research experience including a publication, and study abroad under my belt.
 
danjo said:
I hope I'm not kicking a dead horse here...

For all of you that are dissatisfied with your scores b/c you think you are no longer competitive with your top choice schools: remember, "diversity" is the name of the game. I think if you look at the stats for even the most highly ranked (according to the flawed U.S. News system), there is a broad range of MCAT scores and GPAs. I could be wrong here, but I don't think the diversity = ethnicity. The schools are looking for a broad range of people, experiences, and talents to contribute to the learning environment. So, do not give up hope! You will see people with a 25 MCAT score that made it into Harvard. Have faith and confidence in yourself!
thanks danjo! And congrats on your 33!!! you must be ecstatic! 😀
 
Monarch Kong said:
I've resigned myself to the fact that I will probably not get into a hard-to-get-into school, but I was wondering what type of schools am I competitive for? I have a 3.83 GPA and 3.8 Science GPA with an electrical engineering major at a good engineering school. I have good volunteering experience...very strong research experience including a publication, and study abroad under my belt.

Those are all great stats! But they only get your foot in the door, and people with lesser stats get interviews as well. Getting into medical school is a "process", and the whole person is what matters to most schools when you apply. Keep your spirits up and show the adcoms that you want to be a doctor, and your are dedicated to helping improve the health and well-being of others! 🙂
 
I've lurked here for a few months and now I have my MCAT scores and I need some advice. I graduated this May with a BS in Nutrition. I want osteopathic schools, especially Pikeville, KY, PCOM in GA or Fort Worth, TX. I am a Texas resident. However, any D.O. school that would admit me, I would go to.

My MCAT scores are:
VR-9
PS-7
WS-M
BS-7
Total- 23M
My GPA is 2.1; it’s a long story.

I’m an older applicant, 28, with what I consider to be tons of experience. I was a medic in the Army for 2-1/2 years. I’ve worked as a medical assistant for the past 6-7 years at a clinic with both D.O.s and resident D.O.s. I have also shadowed a D.O. outside my clinic who is pretty well known in D.O. circles.
Any advice?
 
I'm not normally one to ask the "what are my chances" question, regardless of how badly I want to. Yesterday evening however changed that tendancy. so, SDNers, here's the numbers, should I retake?
non sci GPA 3.55 sci gpa 3.6 MCAT 29P. Retake?
 
sbuck said:
I've lurked here for a few months and now I have my MCAT scores and I need some advice. I graduated this May with a BS in Nutrition. I want osteopathic schools, especially Pikeville, KY, PCOM in GA or Fort Worth, TX. I am a Texas resident. However, any D.O. school that would admit me, I would go to.

My MCAT scores are:
VR-9
PS-7
WS-M
BS-7
Total- 23M
My GPA is 2.1; it’s a long story.

I’m an older applicant, 28, with what I consider to be tons of experience. I was a medic in the Army for 2-1/2 years. I’ve worked as a medical assistant for the past 6-7 years at a clinic with both D.O.s and resident D.O.s. I have also shadowed a D.O. outside my clinic who is pretty well known in D.O. circles.
Any advice?

I would seriously consider doing a Post-Bacc (take some upper-division science classes at a 4-year university near your home), and strive to get straight A's. Show the adcoms that you can get A's now and that you are more mature than when you took those previous classes. You obviously have the desire to become a physician, and have lots of great patient-contact time. Talk to the pre-med advisor at your local university about it.

Also, you might want to consider retaking the MCAT again next year. Step back and analyze what went wrong, and see what you can do to improve it.

Important thing is not to give up! It took me a couple of examinations to break 30, so it can be done! Be sure to talk to the adcoms at DO schools in your area and get their advice! You might be able to apply this year, or you may need more post-bacc work. Only they can tell you definitively.

Good luck; never give up! 🙂
 
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