Those with low GPA's--What set your application apart??

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If you are going to pin your hopes of becoming a pharmacist on one school and one school only, you had better make d@mn sure that you will get into said school.

I don't get it. How can you be a citizen of this incredible country, and not want to experience anything beyond your back yard? (I'm an international student, by the way)


Good point. I would also advice against concentrating on one school only. I've lived in SF forever next to UCSF, so naturally I always had my mind set on that school only. I am not even an extraordinary applicant, quite average to be honest. Yet, I felt with voluneering EC's I would be able to get in.

After I got rejected it hurt like hell. But then realized I am not even remotely close to what they are looking for. I've even read up on resumes of the students that got in and they were all quite extraordinary - things they accomplished, are like nothing I have done.

So my point is, either do not set your heart on one school because if you do you might get seriously burned and depressed if you happen to be rejected. Or work incredibly hard to learn the profile of their accepted students. :luck:
 
Well, he is a Tar Heel and they are some pretty hard core fans (I live in Durham and am a Duke fan....I know how crazy the rivalry can get lol) So if UNC is the school of your dreams, then by all means keep it your #1 and hope for the best. It may take you more than once to get in, but keep trying to make yourself the best applicant possible.

Having that said, I do agree with the above posts. I want to attend Campbell, but I'll be applying to 2 other schools as back ups. Even if I really like a program, I have to be realistic and attend any school that accepts me. If I don't get in this year, I'll be applying to as many as possible next year to increase my chances (depending on the necessary prereqs). The end point is for me to get a PharmD...not to graduate from my favorite school.
 
I just felt like I needed to respond to this because if you all notice in my signature I do have listed that I'm a mom to 2 kids. I have that there because I love my daughters and because they are my strength. NOT my weakness. Having kids does make things more difficult and sometimes I envy not being able to just work and go to school and nothing else. BUT I would not change it if given the option. Before having my kids (which WAS my choice, I am married, it wasn't an accident) I didn't really have any focus in my life. After my oldest daughter was born (she's 3 years old now) I really got focused and realized that I wanted to not only do something for myself but also for her future. Sure, it's harder when I have school work, my kids, my house, etc. etc. to all deal with at once but god I wouldn't change it. I don't consider it a hardship at all, it's my biggest strength. I really feel bad for those people who don't have something to fall back on to give them real purpose.

Oh, and even though I have it listed in my signature, I don't usually tell people I have kids. I try actually to avoid that discussion with people at school. UNLESS it comes up because the other person has brought it up themselves. The reason is that even though I'm 23 (almost 24) and look young, I somehow end up always feeling out of place and try to avoid the whole "I'm married and have kids" discussion. That probably makes no sense to some of you but I like to blend in with the other students on campus, I don't want to stick out like a red flag. I like to keep my school life and home life seperate. At home I can be mommy and can be "mom like". At school I can be young and just for at least that time just be myself without my kids.

WELL... that got waaaay off topic, sorry! Just adding in my two cents. (or $20 more like it!)
 
Well, he is a Tar Heel and they are some pretty hard core fans (I live in Durham and am a Duke fan....I know how crazy the rivalry can get lol) So if UNC is the school of your dreams, then by all means keep it your #1 and hope for the best. It may take you more than once to get in, but keep trying to make yourself the best applicant possible.

Having that said, I do agree with the above posts. I want to attend Campbell, but I'll be applying to 2 other schools as back ups. Even if I really like a program, I have to be realistic and attend any school that accepts me. If I don't get in this year, I'll be applying to as many as possible next year to increase my chances (depending on the necessary prereqs). The end point is for me to get a PharmD...not to graduate from my favorite school.

You're the first person I've seen who actually wants to go to Campbell! If you don't mind, why? What made you decide to choose the school? If I get accepted there, the only reason I would go is because it is the cheapest among the schools I applied to, and that is not a very good reason. Where do students do rotations? How successful are students in getting into residencies?

Perhaps I should ask the admissions office...
 
If you are going to pin your hopes of becoming a pharmacist on one school and one school only, you had better make d@mn sure that you will get into said school.

I don't get it. How can you be a citizen of this incredible country, and not want to experience anything beyond your back yard? (I'm an international student, by the way)

Most people who live in the US have what's called a regional bias. People in California want to stay in California, people who have lived in a particular area grow comfortable with that area and what it has to offer, and over the course of many years, reputations arise for particular schools/areas.

It's a huge part of the experience as a US citizen. The country is so big and our neighboring countries so few and far away that in order to operate, we shrink down our worlds. It's no wonder that most Americans are monolingual and have never left the country period.

I'm relocating cross country this fall, and I know NOTHING of New England or the subtle differences in reputation between schools. In California, I can tell you the exact pecking order of pretty much every university here. I can tell you what freeway to take to get there, what the weather will be like at any given time of year, and hell what places to eat when you're done for the day.

It makes me uncomfortable thinking about it, but at the same time, I'm personally not worried simply because I've traveled a lot over the years, so I'll be able to readily adapt. But it's easy for me to understand why a particular person who is not so adept at changing locations could be intimidated by the idea of relocating outside of his or her respective "home" region.
 
Most people who live in the US have what's called a regional bias. People in California want to stay in California, people who have lived in a particular area grow comfortable with that area and what it has to offer, and over the course of many years, reputations arise for particular schools/areas.

It's a huge part of the experience as a US citizen. The country is so big and our neighboring countries so few and far away that in order to operate, we shrink down our worlds. It's no wonder that most Americans are monolingual and have never left the country period.

I'm relocating cross country this fall, and I know NOTHING of New England or the subtle differences in reputation between schools. In California, I can tell you the exact pecking order of pretty much every university here. I can tell you what freeway to take to get there, what the weather will be like at any given time of year, and hell what places to eat when you're done for the day.

It makes me uncomfortable thinking about it, but at the same time, I'm personally not worried simply because I've traveled a lot over the years, so I'll be able to readily adapt. But it's easy for me to understand why a particular person who is not so adept at changing locations could be intimidated by the idea of relocating outside of his or her respective "home" region.

Well, I concede that what you say makes sense. I'm guessing that my perspective is formed from my experience of coming here from an entirely different country. After crossing an ocean, moving to a new state doesn't sound so bad.

However, I think it sad that some people are born, grow up, go to school, live, and die in just one place. I'm horribly shy and nervous about meeting people, and I am very averse to change, but I would at least like to know the world out there.
 
If you are going to pin your hopes of becoming a pharmacist on one school and one school only, you had better make d@mn sure that you will get into said school.

I don't get it. How can you be a citizen of this incredible country, and not want to experience anything beyond your back yard? (I'm an international student, by the way)

You do not know me, by the way. i have been to many far away yards way beyond my own backyard thank you very much🙂 i am not only a citizen of this country, but also a citizen of my own country overseas. so even though i'm not an international student like yourself, my ethnicity and heritage are in the minority catagory here. Half of my education (middle and graduated high school) was taken overseas, in my home country. And I have the rare and great privalege of continuing it here in the U.S (which i am very proud of); so you can say i have the best of both worlds 😀
I chose UNC because it's one of the best public universities in the country, it has an awesome and prestigious pharmd program, it's in a great town, and to top it all of, i'm in-state, which means lower tuition!!🙂
 
You do not know me, by the way. i have been to many far away yards way beyond my own backyard thank you very much🙂 i am not only a citizen of this country, but also a citizen of my own country overseas. so even though i'm not an international student like yourself, my ethnicity and heritage are in the minority catagory here. Half of my education (middle and graduated high school) was taken overseas, in my home country. And I have the rare and great privalege of continuing it here in the U.S (which i am very proud of); so you can say i have the best of both worlds 😀
I chose UNC because it's one of the best public universities in the country, it has an awesome and prestigious pharmd program, it's in a great town, and to top it all of, i'm in-state, which means lower tuition!!🙂

And that's the thing I do not get. You are quick to point out that you've been abroad, but you are unwilling to apply outside of your state. If you've made the move to an entirely different country, why are you worried about moving to a different state?

Call me what you will, but I think my dream of getting into pharmacy school is too important to leave in the hands of just one school.
 
I totally agree. I applied to 3 in-state schools (I'm in Cali: UCSF, Touro, and UOP), and 2 out-of-state schools, one public (Hawaii-Hilo) and private (Creighton online), got interviews for 2 and waitlisted for both (UCSF and Hawaii-Hilo, along with waitlisted for Creighton). Had a really bad GPA in undergrad but nailed mostly A's and a couple of B's doing the postbac for the past couple of years, going from a 2.6 to a 3.0 science GPA, and scored 99 on the PCAT.

I think it's true that Cali schools, particularly the UC's, will look favorably on people who went to UC, but at the same time, it's a whole combination of things that gets you into the interview round, regardless of where you are and where you want to apply:

o writing a killer statement that sets you apart from all the other applicants (for me, managerial experience in a healthcare nonprofit; relating my identity as queer and a person of color into my desire to become a leader and activist in both the queer and HIV/AIDS fields; volunteer experience in a pharmacy, which oddly enough didn't seem to be that important in the interviews);

o good LORs by people who know you very well and can write very detailed and specific letters that show why you want to go into pharmacy (and not necessarily by high ranked people who wouldn't know you from a dishrag);

o improvement in your grades, whether that be through post-bac or from 1st/2nd to 3rd/4th years in undergrad;

o the high PCAT for non-Cali schools does help, but I'm not sure how important it is in regards to everything else.

o showing your familiarity with a specific school, which served me well for my UCSF interview (I've been working and otherwise involved here at UCSF for nearly 10 years).

Hopefully this all helps. 🙂


I strongly believe any application process is a weeding process and its no different for pharmacy school applications.

Inorder to find the most desirable students, many schools have their own standards and level of processing applications.

In general, Schools look at GPA/academics (california schools) and GPA & PCAT scores (non california schools) first and foremost.

Every school has their own standard of minimum GPA for interview.
For example many california pharmacy school give interviews to most students with GPA of no lower than 3.2 GPA

I've heard non-california pharmacy school give interviews to students with at least 2.8 GPA and PCAT scores of 70s. (sometimes even lower but no lower than 60).

IF you meet those cut offs, then they'll seriously consider your application and read your personal statement and letters of recommendation.

I don't blame schools or organizations for doing this. Pharmacy school run a business and they are investing in you to graduate and pass the boards on first try. If you drop out because you can't handle the academic curriculum then pharmacy schools loose out on thousands of dollars in tuition money you would pay back in form of loans for next 15 to 20 years after you graduate.

conclusion: Academics is foremost the most important and of course your desire to become a pharmacist.
 
You do not know me, by the way. i have been to many far away yards way beyond my own backyard thank you very much🙂 i am not only a citizen of this country, but also a citizen of my own country overseas. so even though i'm not an international student like yourself, my ethnicity and heritage are in the minority catagory here. Half of my education (middle and graduated high school) was taken overseas, in my home country. And I have the rare and great privalege of continuing it here in the U.S (which i am very proud of); so you can say i have the best of both worlds 😀
I chose UNC because it's one of the best public universities in the country, it has an awesome and prestigious pharmd program, it's in a great town, and to top it all of, i'm in-state, which means lower tuition!!🙂


I think you took the advice you have given entirely the wrong way.🙁 The point of his message was not to suggest that you are not well-traveled but to open your mind to a possibility of applying to multiple schools.:luck: It's hard for applicants with average/high GPAs to get into one particular school - but for applicants with GPA barely above minimum required it might be very hard if not nearly impossible. If you are sooooooo dead set on applying to one school only and you know you are not the strongest applicant - then be prepared to spend a few years on applying to that school.

Also I can see that you are very sure on why you want to go to that school, but are you just as sure that a said school will consider you a competitive applicant ? Read my UCSF post above and you'll see what I mean. Certain schools have very specific things they look for and you might or you might not have what they are looking for.

The reason I am posting this ( just so you won't misinterpret my intentions ) is to open your mind to a possibility of applying to multiple schools. Like I said it's good to be choosy when you can afford to be - but when you are on the weaker side of the range of applicants you need to be much more flexible.
 
I think you took the advice you have given entirely the wrong way.🙁 The point of his message was not to suggest that you are not well-traveled but to open your mind to a possibility of applying to multiple schools.:luck: It's hard for applicants with average/high GPAs to get into one particular school - but for applicants with GPA barely above minimum required it might be very hard if not nearly impossible. If you are sooooooo dead set on applying to one school only and you know you are not the strongest applicant - then be prepared to spend a few years on applying to that school.

Also I can see that you are very sure on why you want to go to that school, but are you just as sure that a said school will consider you a competitive applicant ? Read my UCSF post above and you'll see what I mean. Certain schools have very specific things they look for and you might or you might not have what they are looking for.

The reason I am posting this ( just so you won't misinterpret my intentions ) is to open your mind to a possibility of applying to multiple schools. Like I said it's good to be choosy when you can afford to be - but when you are on the weaker side of the range of applicants you need to be much more flexible.

I understand what you're saying, and I haven't misinterpreted the meaning of your post. I really appreciate what you have to say, as everyone else here.
I know applying to one school is in some ways not a realistic approach. Heck, I even had my advisor tell me that, and i was alittle hurt. Not only did I get discouraged and disapointed, but it kind of put me down and crushed my hopes alittle. Applying to one school wouldn't be such a huge risk if I had really strong stats, pcat, and good LOR's and EC's. Alot of people have applied to only one school, and got in. How come?? Because they were a really competitive applicant, and they did everything right. But in my situation, the GPA is what's holding me back.

I know right now i'm nowhere near the competitive applicant UNC is looking for. I know I messed up bad, and I know I'm going have to work really really hard to bring my GPA up. It'll probably be 2 years before I finally hit that 3.0 mark and then apply to UNC. But I am sooo determined to go to UNC; you don't understand, it's my dream. I will do whatever it takes to go to there. There are some people out there that would just go to any school that will take them; and if they're happy with that, then great. But I'm not going to apply to schools that i'm not really passionate about going to; it's a waste of time and money.
 
And that's the thing I do not get. You are quick to point out that you've been abroad, but you are unwilling to apply outside of your state. If you've made the move to an entirely different country, why are you worried about moving to a different state?

Call me what you will, but I think my dream of getting into pharmacy school is too important to leave in the hands of just one school.

More power to you. Thanks for the encouraging words.
 
Well, he is a Tar Heel and they are some pretty hard core fans (I live in Durham and am a Duke fan....I know how crazy the rivalry can get lol) So if UNC is the school of your dreams, then by all means keep it your #1 and hope for the best. It may take you more than once to get in, but keep trying to make yourself the best applicant possible.

Thank you for understanding!!!! 🙂 Yes, I'm a tarheel at heart! UNC all the way!! oh, and i'm a she 🙂
 
More power to you. Thanks for the encouraging words.

You misunderstand me. I'm not telling you to apply to other schools because your GPA is low. GPA is just one part of the pharmacy school admissions process. What I'm trying to tell you is not to be so enamored by one school that you blind yourself to the other opportunities for a great pharmacy education out there, even if it is out of state. I would give the same advice to a 4.0, 99 PCAT applicant. I have heard many stories of people who interviewed at a school that they thought they would not like, and ended up liking the school enough that they chose to go there.

I know right now i'm nowhere near the competitive applicant UNC is looking for. I know I messed up bad, and I know I'm going have to work really really hard to bring my GPA up. It'll probably be 2 years before I finally hit that 3.0 mark and then apply to UNC. But I am sooo determined to go to UNC; you don't understand, it's my dream.

If it's your dream, far be it from me to quash it. Do all you can to become the kind of applicant UNC wants, and good luck in your journey to become a pharmacist.
 
You're the first person I've seen who actually wants to go to Campbell! If you don't mind, why? What made you decide to choose the school? If I get accepted there, the only reason I would go is because it is the cheapest among the schools I applied to, and that is not a very good reason. Where do students do rotations? How successful are students in getting into residencies?

Perhaps I should ask the admissions office...

My top ten reasons in no particular order: 1) I live in NC and it's relatively close to my hometown. 2) I want to work in the hospital and Campbell is focused on clinical pharmacy, as opposed to UNC's direction in research. 3) They have a 99% NAPLEX passing rate average over their history. 4) It is relatively cheap as a private school. 5) A family member currently attends there. 6) I've heard their professors are student-oriented. 7) They have the least amount of prerequisite courses needed in all of the pharmacy schools I've seen. 8) I'm a duke fan lol 9) I have some friends over there. 10) They're less competitive to get in than UNC...but I am in-state so idk

I don't know about residencies, but I've volunteered at Duke University Hospital and I've worked with some Campbell p4s doing rotations there. I think they're given the chance to choose their rotations across the state.

Definitely email their admissions and ask for a packet!



Thank you for understanding!!!! Yes, I'm a tarheel at heart! UNC all the way!! oh, and i'm a she


Oops my bad. Great job in the NCAA btw...but seeing Kansas' run in the first half made me laugh 🙂
 
I understand what you're saying, and I haven't misinterpreted the meaning of your post. I really appreciate what you have to say, as everyone else here.
I know applying to one school is in some ways not a realistic approach. Heck, I even had my advisor tell me that, and i was alittle hurt. Not only did I get discouraged and disapointed, but it kind of put me down and crushed my hopes alittle. Applying to one school wouldn't be such a huge risk if I had really strong stats, pcat, and good LOR's and EC's. Alot of people have applied to only one school, and got in. How come?? Because they were a really competitive applicant, and they did everything right. But in my situation, the GPA is what's holding me back.

I know right now i'm nowhere near the competitive applicant UNC is looking for. I know I messed up bad, and I know I'm going have to work really really hard to bring my GPA up. It'll probably be 2 years before I finally hit that 3.0 mark and then apply to UNC. But I am sooo determined to go to UNC; you don't understand, it's my dream. I will do whatever it takes to go to there. There are some people out there that would just go to any school that will take them; and if they're happy with that, then great. But I'm not going to apply to schools that i'm not really passionate about going to; it's a waste of time and money.

What you're saying here is intriguing. You are passionate about going to UNC. That's great. But here's the real question: Are you more passionate about becoming a pharmacist than anything else? This is important to answer before entering a professional program at any institution and might be something to consider for reflection...
 
What you're saying here is intriguing. You are passionate about going to UNC. That's great. But here's the real question: Are you more passionate about becoming a pharmacist than anything else? This is important to answer before entering a professional program at any institution and might be something to consider for reflection...

Yes, I want to become a pharmacist more than anything. I can't imagine myself in any other field; and it took me a while to figure out that pharmacy is what I wanted to pursue.
I know the next question is, what's more important, becoming a pharmacist or going to your dream school?? there's a difference between having a #1 choice school and having the ONLY choice school. i know that,and my advisor has asked me that question. that's a tough one because i'm passionate about both. I want to become a pharmacist from my dream school; that's ideal. It's not impossible; it's going to take some time to get there, but that's what I am truly striving for and working for. i know whatever school i go to, at the end, i'm going to be a pharmacist. For alot of people, the end result is all that matters: becoming a pharmacist. For me it's more than that though; i care about where I'm going to live and spend the next 4 years of my professional school life.... i don't know, am i the only person here that's passionate about getting into a certain school and would do anything to get there???
 
No, I also was very limited in which schools I could go to. My husband's work is very specific and is for the most part limited to one town in Texas (but there are plenty of the same types of companies in California.) Even so, I applied to UT Austin (my first choice) and to UIW (San Antonio) in case I didn't get accepted to UT.

If I hadn't gotten accepted to UT, I think I'd probably have gone to San Antonio unless I couldn't get any financial aid for its tuition. It's fine to want to go to your number 1 choice, and if you're willing to take several years if necessary, that's fine, too. I personally don't agree with it, though. I chose to change my path after working for several years and drop everything and do pharmacy, which is 4 years of little to no income--this was ok with my husband, based on the fact that I'd be making a much greater amount after graduating.

If I had only been set on going to UT and no other school and it took several years to get in, working as a technician would only make up for 25% of the income I'd be losing for my family from not starting school at another institution (assuming scholarships would help with tuition at IUW.) I also knew before I started this that I had a good chance of getting in SOMEWHERE, which is what counted. If I had only wanted to go to UT, I don't think I could have justified such a drastic risk to my family.

That said, if you are not bound to your location by family, etc. it never hurts to apply to more than 1 school. You can always decline if you decide you're still only interested in your 1 school. However, closing all those doors before you even have started the application process is, in my opinion, a very myopic idea.
 
i don't know, am i the only person here that's passionate about getting into a certain school and would do anything to get there???


You are not the only person here pasionate about getting into a certain school( if you just read my replies you'll see that:luck:). Since you haven't been to the website as long as I have - you haven't followed my posts and read my story. My dream was to go to UCSF for years - I have literally grown up on it's campus. I've spent not even months - but years in it's library studying, day dreaming and picturing myself as a student there. I couldn't see myself going to any other school - untill I applied this year. After I got my rejection letter - I was completely devastated. I cried, I was in bed for several days straight, I ate non-stop and gained like 10 lbs in 2 weeks. I was soooooo depressed - I just can't put it in words how much it hurt.

My point is: it's nice to dream but ultimately it pays off to be a realist. Look at me now - I lost an entire year because of my own stubborness. I am not a great applicant but not a bad one either. M GPA is ok and I have a ton of ECs: research, years of teaching and voluneering experience. Had I applied to other schools - there is a good chance I would have been accepted.

So dream on but ultimately like I said do not forget to judge yourself as a potential candidate realistically. Otherwise, you might go through what I went through - and I wouldn't wish that to an enemy.
 
Aww cheburashka... What are your plans now?
To answer the original poster's question, my GPA was about 3.3 but I think what mainly got me in were my PCAT score and involvement with extracurriculars.
 
You are not the only person here pasionate about getting into a certain school( if you just read my replies you'll see that:luck:). Since you haven't been to the website as long as I have - you haven't followed my posts and read my story. My dream was to go to UCSF for years - I have literally grown up on it's campus. I've spent not even months - but years in it's library studying, day dreaming and picturing myself as a student there. I couldn't see myself going to any other school - untill I applied this year. After I got my rejection letter - I was completely devastated. I cried, I was in bed for several days straight, I ate non-stop and gained like 10 lbs in 2 weeks. I was soooooo depressed - I just can't put it in words how much it hurt.

My point is: it's nice to dream but ultimately it pays off to be a realist. Look at me now - I lost an entire year because of my own stubborness. I am not a great applicant but not a bad one either. M GPA is ok and I have a ton of ECs: research, years of teaching and voluneering experience. Had I applied to other schools - there is a good chance I would have been accepted.

So dream on but ultimately like I said do not forget to judge yourself as a potential candidate realistically. Otherwise, you might go through what I went through - and I wouldn't wish that to an enemy.

So what school did you end up going to?
 
So what school did you end up going to?


I didn't !(perhaps, re-read my post as this was exactly the point I was trying to carry across to you.🙁)


That is why I have been trying soooooooo:luck: hard to interest you in pursuing other schools. By only being interested in one school only I lost an entire year and you could too.

I know exactly where you are coming from. I was sort of in your shoes about a year ago ( although my stats were better ). It must be hard to see the application process from my point of view right now - you have, what Russians call, pink glasses on( you are in the dream mode) - but maybe, for your own goodness and well-being you should consider applying to more than 1 school perhaps ?


Again I am not posting this to offend you or tell you to stop dreaming, I am genuinely ! concerned that you can dig yourself into a hole I got myself in. I don't what kind of school UNC is, and what they look for in applicants, but ultimately it's better to widen your options than to narrow them.
 
I don't know that she will be ready to listen to you. She would "do anything" to go to UNC.

Ironically, there is someone else who only applied to UNC with a 3.69 GPA and 83 PCAT. (S)He is currently on the "Waitlist support group" thread...

Cheburashka, where are you applying this year?
 
I don't know that she will be ready to listen to you. She would "do anything" to go to UNC.

Ironically, there is someone else who only applied to UNC with a 3.69 GPA and 83 PCAT. (S)He is currently on the "Waitlist support group" thread...

Cheburashka, where are you applying this year?

I agree with you - I don't think she/he are ready to listen to me. 🙁
I guess I am taking it a bit tooooooo personally and keep trying and trying to wisen them up - but I hit a brick wall. 😎

After applying and getting rejected this I have gained a wisdom that only comes from experience. Maybe going through an application cycle and learning what a tough game it is - especially when you give yourself one option - will be beneficial for this person.


My GPA is 3.3, science 3.4

I have 3 semesters of graduate-level research experience in the area of analytical biochemistry.

I have several hundred hours volunteering in a medical office/clinic.

I have several years of teaching and tutoring Organic chemistry supplemental classes at our university.

I am completing BS degree in biochemistry this spiring and am a few units away from a 2nd one in chemistry.

I have an education in music.

I have several unsciency EC stuff such as working with children at the orphanage back in my home country or volunteering as an interpreter for elderly immigrants and etc.

I am a memeber of pre-pharm club like everybody else and I have experience working in the pharmacy.


And with all that stuff I honestly consider myself - a weak applicant.🙁😎
Why ? 😱
Because I am applying against people like Knickerbocker with 3.99 GPAs and 99 PCAts.


That is why I think the author of the thread should be a bit more reaslitic. At 2.8 GPA one should be rather flexible and hope just to get in somewhere, rather than being choosy.
 
cheb, I just reread (and finally understood!) your post. I didn't know that it was this year you applied to UCSF. I didn't mean to be insensitive. I hope you get into somewhere next year; any school would be lucky to have you.

And don't think you are a weak applicant solely because of your GPA. I have a 4.0 and 98 PCAT, but I would give my arm to have half the experiences you have, because I have practically none.
 
cheb, I just reread (and finally understood!) your post. I didn't know that it was this year you applied to UCSF. I didn't mean to be insensitive. I hope you get into somewhere next year; any school would be lucky to have you.

And don't think you are a weak applicant solely because of your GPA. I have a 4.0 and 98 PCAT, but I would give my arm to have half the experiences you have, because I have practically none.


You are not insensitive at all, the reason I posted my stats was to show the author what my stats were- in light of me being rejected.


I am very optimistic - this year i am applying to like 20 schools. Thinking logically, at least statistically there is a cance I must get in somewhere.

I wish to be accepted to school in CA as my mom is really sick and I would prefer to be close to her in case of emergency.
 
I am very optimistic - this year i am applying to like 20 schools. Thinking logically, at least statistically there is a cance I must get in somewhere.

I wish to be accepted to school in CA as my mom is really sick and I would prefer to be close to her in case of emergency.

I think that you can succeed with applying to far less than 20 schools.
 
I think that you can succeed with applying to far less than 20 schools.

Thanks, Knick ! BTW, I didn't have a chance to PM you but congrats on your acceptance ! :luck: 🙂


I am very very happy for you, now you can relax and have a good piece of mind !
 
My GPA varied wildly depending on how the school chose to calculate it, but I still think it was below average. Things that helped me get an interview:

Very high PCAT: 96
Pharmacy Exp: both as a volunteer in a hospital and elsewhere as an employee
Past Exp: I used to work in IT, so I have tons of life experience in other fields
Non pre-pharmacy classes: I have a ton seemingly random classes on my transcript. I feel they each contribute something in making me more well rounded, well read, and more worldly.
Participation: I was a member, then an officer of my schools pre-pharm club. I also am a member of a couple local pharmacy groups. Plus I am a member of some national organizations that have nothing to do with pharmacy (again with the well rounded).

Noticing a trend? Be well rounded. Pharm schools are looking for people, not numbers. The more interesting things you have on your application the easier it will be for them to remember you, and the more things you'll have an opportunity to bring up in your interview, again, to help them remember you.
 
Where did he get accepted to?
Where did you get accepted to? (Knicker)

TAMK?

Yes, he did get accepted to Texas A&M (wherever it is). His current avatar should have given that away. Also check the "Texas A&M" thread.

Dang...we are getting away from this thread's original purpose.
 
Maybe they had better LoR and interview more effectively.

Hmm probably? Who knows? 😕 I still cannot understand on what criteria a lot of schools select applicants.
 
Cheburashka,did you get interview or straight forward rejection? (Sorry if siplyu sol' na ranu)
 
I agree with cheburashka, people should be more realistic. I know that confidence is a great thing but it should be presented in the day of the interview not during your application process.

What I am saying is that, do not narrow down your possibility to only one school. I admit I do that with my applications too. I kept thinking that "oh, I will never be able to get into that school" but then again, I at least tried at the end. This year I applied to only 6 schools because I kept narrowing down all the possibilities. I see which schools I'm most eligible to get in and other criteria as well.

For example, I decided to apply to USC at the last minute because I doubt myself. I thought that USC was hard for me to get into but I finally decided to give it a try. When time comes for their last interview, I was devastated because I was not invited. I gave them a call and they said that I am on hold. The following monday I received a call for an interview invites and I was really happy. I give it my all at the interview and now I am just waiting for their decision.

Through this whole experience, I have found out that the #1 choice for me didn't turn out to #1 anymore because I have found other things about the other schools that is more of a fit for me. So what I am saying through this long post is do not narrow down your choices because you'll end up regretting it in the end.

Wish the best of luck to everyone! 😍
 
Thankfully to the pre pharm boards I don't have top choice school anymore.:laugh: Sure, in the back of my mind I hope UIC will accept me when my time comes, but that's a very slim chance. So, my point is-being realistic never hurts. But, some people learn that the hard way. I did. (Didn't get in the university with not so competitive program back in my country.)
 
Maybe they had better LoR and interview more effectively.

To answer yours and Crazy Fox ( Privet Lisenok !:luck:) questions:

My LORs were solid as I have read what they wrote about me before they sent it.

I didn't even get to the interview part and got straight rejected.

I actually know why I got rejected so I don't need to speculate why - I got rejected because I was a clueless ***** during the application process. :laugh:

I put less than a 1/3 of the things I have done on my application😎 because I thought the only pharmacy and health care field volunteering experiences matter. all the other ECs I have done - I didn't even know😱 I should have put them. I DEFINATELY did not come out as a well-rounded wholesome candidate and that's why I got rejected.😎 Also my PS wasn't super either.👎


This year - I know I will get accepted if only I could land interviews - I am very charming, loveable and confident in person and usually leave an impression on people. I have taught classes before - once you teach a class and have 30 people grill you with questions - you'd never have a problem speaking in public. Awwwwwwwwe, if only I could land an interview this year I would be the happiest person alive.😍:luck:
 
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