Ties and shirts for every day stylish dressing in the clinic

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Anyone have advice for where to buy stylish ties? I have about four shirts (two french blue) and two ties that I could wear on work days - obviously M3 or M4 on your AI you are on a 7 day rotation with shirt/ties so I need to increase my supply. I'd like to up my game so if any guys have fashion advice I'd love to hear it.

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How much do you want to pay?

thetiebar.com sells a huge variety for $15 per tie. Alternatively, Drake's of London makes superb ties for $150 per tie.
 
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I have a pretty good mix of ties, ranging from lanvin, Tom ford, charvet, attolini, etc to express. My favorite are probably RL black label, lubiam, and Personality Milano but express narrow width ties have a nice hand, weight, proportions, and nice patterns. Wait for one of their 25 off 60 coupons and the buy one get one 50% off sale and you can get them for ~$20 each.
 
I've gotten a lot of compliments on the ties I got from http://www.cheap-neckties.com/ . Paying $40+ for a tie is a ripoff at our level. $10-20, max. Plus when they're this cheap you can buy 4 instead of 1 and get some variety. I guess I'll invest in a nice one for interviews.

Does anyone have a good comprehensive guide for dress shirt color and tie color? I haven't found much from basic searching on google.
 
Does anyone have a good comprehensive guide for dress shirt color and tie color? I haven't found much from basic searching on google.

This is a great question and would be a great resource
 
I have a pretty good mix of ties, ranging from lanvin, Tom ford, charvet, attolini, etc to express. My favorite are probably RL black label, lubiam, and Personality Milano but express narrow width ties have a nice hand, weight, proportions, and nice patterns. Wait for one of their 25 off 60 coupons and the buy one get one 50% off sale and you can get them for ~$20 each.

I have a couple express "narrow width" (skinny) ties that are dynamite when going out - but idk about wearing them in the professional setting. I feel like that's a little too clubby
 
I have a couple express "narrow width" (skinny) ties that are dynamite when going out - but idk about wearing them in the professional setting. I feel like that's a little too clubby

I have a few express skinny ties that I wear in clinic. As long as they are paired with a low key shirt (ie not neon colored shirt) they look fine.

If you have an outlet mall near you with an express or banana republic you can get some nice ties for a good price. Gap can be hit or miss, but it's worth checking.
 
I've used Express fit shirts and ties since it's hard to find stuff in my size

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What's wrong with going to something like Sears?

I love me some skinny ties and slim fitting dress shirts.
 
Does anyone have a good comprehensive guide for dress shirt color and tie color? I haven't found much from basic searching on google.

That's what girlfriends/moms are for (being serious). If you don't have either of those, get a classmate's help (one that has fashion sense) - eg, ask the guy you think has great matching combos of shirt/tie to help you with yours. Most girls can see what matches and what doesn't, and I'm guessing it's a cultural thing that guys can't tell the difference between pea green, sea green, and grass green.

But, failing all that...just match any color that's on your tie to your shirt. They really should be the same exact color for best results. And if you are starting out, stick with solid color shirts + at least one color on the tie the same as the shirt. That way you don't have to worry about matching patterns from tie to shirt. And if all else fails, pretty much any tie will work with a solid black or white shirt (I would not do black on black though, or white on white - I would do lighter/medium colors for the black shirt, and medium/darker colors for the white shirt).

And if that still fails, post pictures of your ties + shirts on sdn or PM me and I can help.
 
That's what girlfriends/moms are for (being serious). If you don't have either of those, get a classmate's help (one that has fashion sense) - eg, ask the guy you think has great matching combos of shirt/tie to help you with yours. Most girls can see what matches and what doesn't, and I'm guessing it's a cultural thing that guys can't tell the difference between pea green, sea green, and grass green.

But, failing all that...just match any color that's on your tie to your shirt. They really should be the same exact color for best results. And if you are starting out, stick with solid color shirts + at least one color on the tie the same as the shirt. That way you don't have to worry about matching patterns from tie to shirt. And if all else fails, pretty much any tie will work with a solid black or white shirt (I would not do black on black though, or white on white - I would do lighter/medium colors for the black shirt, and medium/darker colors for the white shirt).

And if that still fails, post pictures of your ties + shirts on sdn or PM me and I can help.

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gah, i didn't mean personal photos, just like a generic BR website link + tie what you think works/doesn't. I think I should have been more clear in my wording with all the 'i'm a webcam model/posting self pics' threads lately...

Sorry wordead, didn't mean to be creepy.
 
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I refuse to wear ties wider than 2.75". The Express narrow ties are 2.5" and IMO perfectly acceptable for the clinic. I wouldn't wear the skinny ties (2") unless you're really thin tho.
 
I have a pretty good mix of ties, ranging from lanvin, Tom ford, charvet, attolini, etc to express. My favorite are probably RL black label, lubiam, and Personality Milano but express narrow width ties have a nice hand, weight, proportions, and nice patterns. Wait for one of their 25 off 60 coupons and the buy one get one 50% off sale and you can get them for ~$20 each.

+1 express has deals literally every single week. it's awesome.

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That's what girlfriends/moms are for (being serious). If you don't have either of those, get a classmate's help (one that has fashion sense) - eg, ask the guy you think has great matching combos of shirt/tie to help you with yours. Most girls can see what matches and what doesn't, and I'm guessing it's a cultural thing that guys can't tell the difference between pea green, sea green, and grass green.

But, failing all that...just match any color that's on your tie to your shirt. They really should be the same exact color for best results. And if you are starting out, stick with solid color shirts + at least one color on the tie the same as the shirt. That way you don't have to worry about matching patterns from tie to shirt. And if all else fails, pretty much any tie will work with a solid black or white shirt (I would not do black on black though, or white on white - I would do lighter/medium colors for the black shirt, and medium/darker colors for the white shirt).

And if that still fails, post pictures of your ties + shirts on sdn or PM me and I can help.

This is mostly horrible advice.

1. Women (especially 20-something girlfriends) have no idea how men dress properly
2. Stay away from solid colored shirts, unless they are white, blue, or maybe salmon. And I don't mean teal blue. Stay the hell away from black. Green? Are you serious?
3. Do not match tie and shirt color. There should be some visual interest. A good rule of thumb is to pick a tie darker than your shirt, and if they're both patterned, use patterns of different sizes.

Don't dress like you're going to an Indian wedding -- neon colors, ridiculously complicated prints, black on black, dark red on dark red -- this all looks horrible.

Honestly, 3 white shirts and 3 light blue shirts plus a collection of solid colored and simply-patterned ties is what you want.

Here, read this gigantic thread on conservative business attire. In all likelihood, those guys are wearing ties and shirts worth more than your cumulative debt, so ignore the brands. Just focus on the well-executed combinations of patterns and colors.
 
This is mostly horrible advice.

1. Women (especially 20-something girlfriends) have no idea how men dress properly
2. Stay away from solid colored shirts, unless they are white, blue, or maybe salmon. And I don't mean teal blue. Stay the hell away from black. Green? Are you serious?
3. Do not match tie and shirt color. There should be some visual interest. A good rule of thumb is to pick a tie darker than your shirt, and if they're both patterned, use patterns of different sizes.

Don't dress like you're going to an Indian wedding -- neon colors, ridiculously complicated prints, black on black, dark red on dark red -- this all looks horrible.

Honestly, 3 white shirts and 3 light blue shirts plus a collection of solid colored and simply-patterned ties is what you want.

Here, read this gigantic thread on conservative business attire. In all likelihood, those guys are wearing ties and shirts worth more than your cumulative debt, so ignore the brands. Just focus on the well-executed combinations of patterns and colors.

🙄 It's called a difference of opinion. And I'm sorry but most guys want to look good for women, eg, they want what the woman thinks looks best on them. And this is only in regards to your comment on women not knowing how to dress men. I am not saying ask a chick what club clothing she likes on you to wear for work.

The times I have seen the ugliest ties/shirt combo it has ALWAYS been the guy dressing himself with only his own opinion (can we say no to pink + red flower ties on blue shirts?).

The idea is to get a second opinion.

I don't know why I'm even bothering to reply when you say something like this:

"Do not match tie and shirt color."

One color on the tie SHOULD match the shirt most of the time. And seriously, three white shirts and three light blue shirts? I'm not asking for a rainbow colored closet..but come on....2 colors all the time? 😵

You can think whatever you want, I'll just say let's agree to disagree. I'm confident with my original advice as several guys that have asked me for help on how to dress for work have gotten compliments from their coworkers/bosses. And seriously...2 colors of shirts in a closet.....

OP, what you can take from this is clothing and all clothing advice is all subjective. As long as you don't stand out like a sore thumb, you're fine. When in doubt stick to more conservative.
 
I've gotten a lot of compliments on the ties I got from http://www.cheap-neckties.com/ . Paying $40+ for a tie is a ripoff at our level. $10-20, max. Plus when they're this cheap you can buy 4 instead of 1 and get some variety. I guess I'll invest in a nice one for interviews.

Does anyone have a good comprehensive guide for dress shirt color and tie color? I haven't found much from basic searching on google.
Now I want to buy a $10 paisley tie in every color
 
I don't know if this is way off base, but I try to do one of the following things:

I either match my tie to my pants, or if I can't do that, match it to my shirt.

Besides that, I try to keep it to conservative colors (I have a salmon shirt that I don't wear to the hospital), like dark blue, light blue, light green, grey, black, red

I don't think there's a need to be steadfast on solid colors vs designs. Just go to a store, see what you like, see what fits, and go with that.

I think 9/10 times people won't care what you're wearing (as long as it's not something over the top).
 
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Wow, those guys are a little obsessed.
styleforum goes beyond "conservative business dress" quite often, but there's also a great deal of good information about what proper fit, coordination, and quality are. I can't afford to pay 10% of what most of those guys are paying for their outfits, but you can get good ideas of what looks good and try to replicate it at a lower price. You can be wearing a relatively cheap shirt or suit, but if it fits well, you'll look better than if you had spent a lot of money on something that doesn't fit well.

My preference for light blue or white dress shirts came from a guy on there who dressed very similarly. The guy was a little weird... he bought like 8 pairs of the exact same shoes because he liked them so much. But he had an idea that he would always buy only light blue or white shirts and ties that would coordinate with them. It didn't matter what color pants he wore with the shirts and tie, they always went well together.

The issue some guys have is they go buy these wacky color shirts or ties that you can only wear together, limiting your potential combinations. It may be more boring to only wear various shades of blue, but I can reach in my closet blindly and any shirt and tie I grab will coordinate well with whichever pants I choose. The simplicity of it really makes life easier.

Plus those bright/obnoxious shirts are more high school prom than proper business attire.
 
Dark blue, Red, Black? Planning to hit the club after you're done with rounds? Maybe with a vodka red bull PRN?

I don't know if this is way off base, but I try to do one of the following things:

I either match my tie to my pants, or if I can't do that, match it to my shirt.

Besides that, I try to keep it to conservative colors (I have a salmon shirt that I don't wear to the hospital), like dark blue, light blue, light green, grey, black, red

I don't think there's a need to be steadfast on solid colors vs designs. Just go to a store, see what you like, see what fits, and go with that.

I think 9/10 times people won't care what you're wearing (as long as it's not something over the top).
 
gah, i didn't mean personal photos, just like a generic BR website link + tie what you think works/doesn't. I think I should have been more clear in my wording with all the 'i'm a webcam model/posting self pics' threads lately...

Sorry wordead, didn't mean to be creepy.

I wasn't talking about the photos....your advice is just really, really bad. Sorry man.

What is your rationale behind matching your tie to your shirt/pants? Green shirts? Please explain...

Also, the women know how to dress men thing is dumb....just like the gay guy myth. They know how to dress themselves, and can try to apply their sense of fashion to you - which almost always looks bad and certainly not conservative.
 
It seems like we have some kind of "style thread" going on in here every month...

Anyway you can wear a green shirt but you have to have the right tie. I don't have it with me so I don't know the exact tie colors but I have a single green shirt and tie combo that I've gotten compliments on multiple times. Like so many times it makes me want to wear it more. It's not some crazy neon green though I guess something like this?

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You do run the risk of looking really weird in a green shirt though so like I said it's just one shirt/tie combo for me.
 
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Wordead, that hasn't been my experience (not just talking about with myself) with regards to your last statement. Have you had women try to apply their sense of fashion to you? You have to tailor it to what the person likes/personality/occasion. I meant more the 'which one looks better - shirt 1 or shirt 2 with tie 1-3' going through a second opinion. At that point all the items are things you have presumably bought, so are your own style - it's just the color coordination that could use help.

And I see where I wasn't clear. I didn't mean green tie + green pants. I meant more like patterned ties - with one of the colors in there matching the shirt, generally speaking. Here, for example (though this tie is fugly):

http://www.thetiebar.com/categoryPages/Paisley_Floral_Ties.asp

The first one with blue/yellow - would say matches best with light blue shirt. What is a no no, and what I've seen some do is match that to say a dark red shirt. Also, wouldn't tell someone to get a neon green shirt for clinic.

Clothing/fashion is always going to be subjective opinions - there's no universal right/wrong to it. So if the OP wanted to be more stylish in his own mind, then he should look at what other people are wearing and evaluate if it works for them or not, and WHY it works/does not. Then looking at people that he deems are really well dressed, apply the same principles, and then he can begin to build his own sense of what would work for him/what wouldn't.
 
Dark blue, Red, Black? Planning to hit the club after you're done with rounds? Maybe with a vodka red bull PRN?

We're not allowed to wear shirts in these colors? That's news to me, and something I will blatantly ignore.

These shirts I'm describing are not neon/bright/highlighter shades of the colors I'm saying. When I go to the store I try not to buy the same shirt in the same color. I don't want people to think I'm wearing the same shirt one day apart or multiple times in a week.
 
We're not allowed to wear shirts in these colors? That's news to me, and something I will blatantly ignore.

These shirts I'm describing are not neon/bright/highlighter shades of the colors I'm saying. When I go to the store I try not to buy the same shirt in the same color. I don't want people to think I'm wearing the same shirt one day apart or multiple times in a week.

You're free to wear whatever you want, and people are free to judge you for doing so.
 
What is this?

It's not necessary to be "stylish." You just need to be professional. This only requires a handful of ties, a few pairs of pants, and then white/light blue shirts. You aren't really trying to impress people here.

We're not allowed to wear shirts in these colors? That's news to me, and something I will blatantly ignore.

These shirts I'm describing are not neon/bright/highlighter shades of the colors I'm saying. When I go to the store I try not to buy the same shirt in the same color. I don't want people to think I'm wearing the same shirt one day apart or multiple times in a week.

Why would anyone think that? Just wear a white shirt. Most people do, and I have never thought they were wearing the same one over and over again.
 
Just out of curiosity, take me through what color schemes you go with when dressing for the hospital.

Lots of lilacs, purples (not bright ones), greys, light blues, pinks, white based patterns, etc.

I'll pair them with complementary ties and baller watches. I tend to wear grey/charcoal dress slacks rather than khaki based pants. I'll rock awesome shoes.
 
Lots of lilacs, purples (not bright ones), greys, light blues, pinks, white based patterns, etc.

I'll pair them with complementary ties and baller watches. I tend to wear grey/charcoal dress slacks rather than khaki based pants. I'll rock awesome shoes.

Are you serious? And you were blasting me for having dark blue, red, and black as shirt colors?

With the thread about residency suits/watches existing, I can't honestly tell if you're trolling. If you are, well done I suppose🙄
 
Are you serious? And you were blasting me for having dark blue, red, and black as shirt colors?

With the thread about residency suits/watches existing, I can't honestly tell if you're trolling. If you are, well done I suppose🙄

Uh, the colors I wear are far more conservative than dark blue, black, and red. Pastels are de rigueur in the workplace. I tend not to wear too overly bright colors. Even if I do, I'm not being constantly evaluated, at least not in a way that matters.
 
That's what girlfriends/moms are for (being serious). If you don't have either of those, get a classmate's help (one that has fashion sense) - eg, ask the guy you think has great matching combos of shirt/tie to help you with yours. Most girls can see what matches and what doesn't, and I'm guessing it's a cultural thing that guys can't tell the difference between pea green, sea green, and grass green.

But, failing all that...just match any color that's on your tie to your shirt. They really should be the same exact color for best results. And if you are starting out, stick with solid color shirts + at least one color on the tie the same as the shirt. That way you don't have to worry about matching patterns from tie to shirt. And if all else fails, pretty much any tie will work with a solid black or white shirt (I would not do black on black though, or white on white - I would do lighter/medium colors for the black shirt, and medium/darker colors for the white shirt).

And if that still fails, post pictures of your ties + shirts on sdn or PM me and I can help.

I don't get this misconception. Girls think they're really good judges of nice menswear, but like guys, they are all over the spectrum. I've seen girls pick up eight-color neon ties for their hubbies, the world's most conservative outfit, and everything in between. Having a vagina does not automatically make you a good dresser.
 
Are you serious? And you were blasting me for having dark blue, red, and black as shirt colors?

With the thread about residency suits/watches existing, I can't honestly tell if you're trolling. If you are, well done I suppose🙄

To be honest, his color schemes are subjectively much better. Dark blue, black, and red are shirt colors that should hardly exist, period. Let alone in a "conservative" setting such as medicine.
 
I don't get this misconception. Girls think they're really good judges of nice menswear, but like guys, they are all over the spectrum. I've seen girls pick up eight-color neon ties for their hubbies, the world's most conservative outfit, and everything in between. Having a vagina does not automatically make you a good dresser.

This. Women have surprisingly awful taste in menswear more often than you'd think.
 
I have been getting decent quality (better than off-the-rack shirts) from the following 3 UK stores:

ctshirts.com
hawesandcurtis.com
tmlewin.com

If you are more ritzy, thomaspink.com may have your fix.

I prefer the slim fit styles. They wear much better and don't leave you with extra fabric around your back waist.

And go for the button cuff. I don't see too many people wearing french cuffs with a white coat...
 
Are you serious? And you were blasting me for having dark blue, red, and black as shirt colors?

With the thread about residency suits/watches existing, I can't honestly tell if you're trolling. If you are, well done I suppose🙄

Those are shirts for going clubbing....thats about it man.

Have you ever worked in a professional environment before? Nobody wears crap like that.
 
Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but don't go too far overboard in what you spend on your shirts and ties; you don't want to waste $100 on a tie/shirt only to have a patient vomit, pee, or bleed on it.
 
Some of their stuff is ok. The majority of my dress shirts are RL black label, brooks extra slim fit, black fleece, spurr, and banana (monogram or non-iron slim fit). I don't like the patterns of the brit stuff that much except for turnbull; not a fan of Thomas pink, mostly it's overpriced garbage. If you're going to buy that, get it on gilt for a discount.

I have been getting decent quality (better than off-the-rack shirts) from the following 3 UK stores:

ctshirts.com
hawesandcurtis.com
tmlewin.com

If you are more ritzy, thomaspink.com may have your fix.

I prefer the slim fit styles. They wear much better and don't leave you with extra fabric around your back waist.

And go for the button cuff. I don't see too many people wearing french cuffs with a white coat...
 
Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but don't go too far overboard in what you spend on your shirts and ties; you don't want to waste $100 on a tie/shirt only to have a patient vomit, pee, or bleed on it.

my shirts are generally around $60 and ties $30 which I find reasonable. If a patient vomits or urinates on you that this when you get it dry cleaned. Blood will be tough to get out. However generally in situations where that could happen you won't be in a dress shirt and tie.
 
Some of their stuff is ok. The majority of my dress shirts are RL black label, brooks extra slim fit, black fleece, spurr, and banana (monogram or non-iron slim fit). I don't like the patterns of the brit stuff that much except for turnbull; not a fan of Thomas pink, mostly it's overpriced garbage. If you're going to buy that, get it on gilt for a discount.

http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4128350&parentPage=family

I have never worn a $325 dress shirt before.

In all seriousness, is there some sort of delight that I'm missing out on (besides what I will assume is quality stitching)?
 
my shirts are generally around $60 and ties $30 which I find reasonable. If a patient vomits or urinates on you that this when you get it dry cleaned. Blood will be tough to get out. However generally in situations where that could happen you won't be in a dress shirt and tie.

Don't know what it's like where you are, but shirt/tie is mandatory during our medicine rotations (even EM). You will easily run into some pretty sick people on the floors.
 
It's pretty easy to steer clear of that stuff. I'm essentially a medicine resident and I've never been anywhere near bodily fluids except in the OR.
 
Don't know what it's like where you are, but shirt/tie is mandatory during our medicine rotations (even EM). You will easily run into some pretty sick people on the floors.

never had an issue on any of my medicine rotations. Whenever there was the possibility I put some protective clothing on. Now EM could potentially be messy. Just gown up during traumas though and you'll likely still be OK.
 
Buy quality items with a good fit (and take it to a tailor) and focus on buying versatile pieces of clothing instead of "outfits". Those are the two areas most people screw up. The end result is they wind up with a closet stuffed full of cheap outfits instead of a few high quality purchases that can easily be mix and matched into good outfits.

I would say stick with solid colors or very fine, subtle patterns to start with because they are the easiest to match. Start with neutral colored shirts (light blue, white) and pants (black, grey, navy, brown, khaki) and use brighter colors in the tie for a little visual interest. Branch out into more interesting shirts (pink, lavender, french blue, stripes, gingham, oxford) and more heavily patterned ties after you have a solid foundation and keeping in mind what is culturally acceptable professional dress where you are.

And people will laugh at this but take your white coat to a tailor. It makes no sense to worry about putting together a solid outfit only to drown it out in a white burlap sack...

Don't pay retail for anything. Clothing is ridiculously overpriced but frequently on sale. You can get quality clothing on a medical student budget as long as you keep an eye out for sales and buy staples instead of outfits...
 
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Or just don't wear your white coat. I never did in med school and I'm sure not in residency.

Buy quality items with a good fit (and take it to a tailor) and focus on buying versatile pieces of clothing instead of "outfits". Those are the two areas most people screw up. The end result is they wind up with a closet stuffed full of cheap outfits instead of a few high quality purchases that can easily be mix and matched into good outfits.

I would say stick with solid colors or very fine, subtle patterns to start with because they are the easiest to match. Start with neutral colored shirts (light blue, white) and pants (black, grey, navy, brown, khaki) and use brighter colors in the tie for a little visual interest. Branch out into more interesting shirts (pink, lavender, french blue, stripes, gingham, oxford) and more heavily patterned ties after you have a solid foundation and keeping in mind what is culturally acceptable professional dress where you are.

And people will laugh at this but take your white coat to a tailor. It makes no sense to worry about putting together a solid outfit only to drown it out in a white burlap sack...

Don't pay retail for anything. Clothing is ridiculously overpriced but frequently on sale. You can get quality clothing on a medical student budget as long as you keep an eye out for sales and buy staples instead of outfits...
 
And people will laugh at this but take your white coat to a tailor. It makes no sense to worry about putting together a solid outfit only to drown it out in a white burlap sack...

I'm not sure I'd waste money on this. I will probably do so in residency for the long coat just so I don't look stupid. But the short white coat looks so ridiculously bad there's just not much you can do. I only wear it when I have to. Use it basically as an identifying marker so I won't get peppered with questions only to explain I really cannot do anything because I am a student...
 
Buy quality items with a good fit (and take it to a tailor) and focus on buying versatile pieces of clothing instead of "outfits". Those are the two areas most people screw up. The end result is they wind up with a closet stuffed full of cheap outfits instead of a few high quality purchases that can easily be mix and matched into good outfits.

I would say stick with solid colors or very fine, subtle patterns to start with because they are the easiest to match. Start with neutral colored shirts (light blue, white) and pants (black, grey, navy, brown, khaki) and use brighter colors in the tie for a little visual interest. Branch out into more interesting shirts (pink, lavender, french blue, stripes, gingham, oxford) and more heavily patterned ties after you have a solid foundation and keeping in mind what is culturally acceptable professional dress where you are.

And people will laugh at this but take your white coat to a tailor. It makes no sense to worry about putting together a solid outfit only to drown it out in a white burlap sack...

Don't pay retail for anything. Clothing is ridiculously overpriced but frequently on sale. You can get quality clothing on a medical student budget as long as you keep an eye out for sales and buy staples instead of outfits...



Ok

Even though some may feel its ok not to dress well..Going by the length of this thread it is!

Also its obvious to me that Dead Cactus knows how to dress! 👍
 
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