Hi guys! Wondering if anyone was applying to this program yet. I plan to apply as soon as my March MCAT scores come back.
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Hey everyone, current MSBSer here. Since it’s getting to that time of the year when people start applying/getting accepted, thought I’d throw my hat in the ring and offer my services to anybody who has any questions about the program! I’ll be happy to help clear up anything I can.
Hi Sophil! Wondering how your class was doing so far and if you guys are all applying this year to UTCOM? This is my dream program but I’m only taking my MCAT in March so I’m kind of scared it’ll be too late
Thanks for being willing to answer our questions! From what you’ve seen, do most students come from in-state? Does the tuition actually end up being 60K for out of state students? This program is my first choice but for an out of stater seems like it would cost twice as much as some other SMPs.
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Hi Sophil! Wondering how your class was doing so far and if you guys are all applying this year to UTCOM? This is my dream program but I’m only taking my MCAT in March so I’m kind of scared it’ll be too late
To my knowledge, nobody who has the GPA to qualify for the guaranteed interview (3.0) is not applying to UTCOM (which is a really roundabout way to say pretty much everyone applies to UTCOM). As for MCAT, I'd email Anita Easterly (the program coordinator). March does seem to be cutting it close, but you might be able to sneak an application in just in time for MSBS. My advice on the MCAT regardless though: do it once and do it right. I thankfully didn't need to retake it, but have several classmates who are attempting to retake the MCAT during the MSBS program, and they're definitely riding the struggle bus without a seatbelt right now.
There's quite a mix actually, I think it might be 50/50 in state and out of state. I myself am out of state, and can personally attest that yes, it does run about 60k for the year. HOWEVER, being in MSBS as an out of state student will give you the opportunity to qualify for in state tuition for Ohio the next four years of medical school (which is what I plan to do). So in the long run, you'll actually save quite a bit of money than you otherwise wouldn't have. Think of it as a long term investment, both from a career and financial standpoint. You stand to gain quite a bit so long as you make the most of your time in the program.
Wondering if you (and your class) is happy so far with MSBS? Any complaints or good things we should know about? Also wanted to say ty for the MCAT advice, I went ahead and sent Anita an email
Wondering if you (and your class) is happy so far with MSBS? Any complaints or good things we should know about? Also wanted to say ty for the MCAT advice, I went ahead and sent Anita an email
I've certainly been very happy with my experience in MSBS, and a lot of my classmates are as well. Do note that it really is hard work, so you'll get out what you put in. There are a few people who aren't having a great time due to falling behind, but like any other course of program if you can be disciplined the volume of work is substantial, but reasonable. I've never felt that anything in the program was unfair or unreasonable. Definitely demanding, but if I got a question wrong on the exam I never felt like it was because I was never given the chance to learn it (although cholesterol synthesis still gives me nightmares months after it wrecked me on an exam).
I think it also is worth mentioning that you WILL be learning clinically relevant material pretty much from the get go. A lot of the time, what I've been learning in MSBS matches up with what some of my friends who are in medical school are learning about, so that's pretty cool and encouraging. You'll essentially be doing a toned down version of your M1 year at UTCOM, and one of the great benefits of the program is that a lot of the professors, material, lectures etc will be carried over if you matriculate, so it definitely gives you a leg up when it comes to navigating medical school and (perhaps most importantly) scoring well on your MSLE step 1. Statistically, the MSBS students that matriculate to UTCOM are some of the highest performing both in the class and on the Step 1. So definitely don't think of it as a year of throwaway science classes, they will help you immensely. But on the same side of that, they aren't throwaway science classes, so you'll definitely need to put in a fair bit of effort to get good grades.
Some more specific positives of the MSBS program are that in each subject, you'll be taught by a specialist with a degree in that field. So for lower limb anatomy we had a lower limb specialist teach us, for lipid metabolism we had a lipid metabolism specialist lecture, so forth and so on. And they're all very available, for the most part excellent lecturers, and are eager to help you succeed (which is good, because the questions you'll be getting won't be solvable by googling things anymore, trust me I've tried). The anatomy course you'll take is really excellent, you'll be split into groups of 8 (with each group having a sub-group of 4) and each group gets their own untouched cadaver, so during dissection days you'll have a ton of room (one cadaver split between four people, two on each side). And perhaps best of all for MSBS, the former MSBS graduates at UTCOM are a huge huge help. They'll give you tips and advice for classes, research, etc, will hold review sessions for you, and even take time on the weekends or after classes to help you with material. It's almost freakishly generous at times.
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Hi Sophil, wondering if I’d be able to PM you some questions?
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Also was wondering (if you were OOS) if Toledo have you enough plans for the year for living and tuition etc? Kinda worried about the money..
So far, money hasn't been an issue and it doesn't seem like it will for the foreseeable future. I am on financial aid, but the amount I need is within my means. There are scholarships and what not you can apply for, but I'd recommend talking to Anita (the program director) if you feel like it'll be an issue. Also keep in mind that, although it is expensive up front, it unlocks in state tuition for you going forward, so it sort of pays itself off that way. And of course, a lot of it depends on how well you handle your money. I know that, for myself, I'm a really good with setting and staying disciplined with a budget and I'm THAT guy who always tries to get the best deals on things, so that's helped keep costs down as well.
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Hi Sophil15,
Thank you for offering to answer some questions regarding the program. I was accepted and plan on attending. I happen to also be OOS. Do you have any recommendations in regards to housing?
Thank you for offering to answer some questions regarding the program. I was accepted and plan on attending. I happen to also be OOS. Do you have any recommendations in regards to housing?
Congratulations! As far as housing goes, eventually those of us in the MSBS program who become M1s (including myself hopefully) will make you guys a big “survival guide” with info on everything under the sun (classes/research/med school apps/and yes, housing).
as of now, I’d recommend doing things sooner rather than later, especially since you already know you’re in. I personally have been living in the Edge 1120 complex, but myself and a lot of my classmates have run into a multitude of problems, so I’ll be moving out. Some people have lived in Fox Chase, University Hills, Sylvania is in general nicer than Toledo (Chelsea place is nice) just a little farther away. And Perrysburg is like Uber nice, but probably the farthest away. I’d make sure to check out if the apartment comes furnished, and what utilities you need to pay for to find something that fits your needs/means.
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Current M1 former MSBS creeping here. I agree with absolutely everything @Sophil15 has said so far. I also have to say, having done MSBS has made my first year of Med school SOOOO much more manageable than what it could have otherwise been. MSBS is a hard year, but man, it worked out for me and I'm really glad I did it.
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@Miracle_Max ! Great to see you’re doing well! I remember seeing you answering a lot of questions in last years forum— happy to see that everything ended up great for you. Hope you’re doing well!
Lol actually kinda curious- do you and @Sophil15 know each other outside of SDN? I know you guys are a year above/below each other just curious
Also on a more serious note, are MSBSers in the same classrooms as the med students (albeit at different times) or is there a separate grad school where you guys take classes?
Lol actually kinda curious- do you and @Sophil15 know each other outside of SDN? I know you guys are a year above/below each other just curious
Also on a more serious note, are MSBSers in the same classrooms as the med students (albeit at different times) or is there a separate grad school where you guys take classes?
are MSBS classes recorded? i remember reading somewhere that attendance was mandatory, but wondering if you guys had to option to playback videos or anything.
also @Miracle_Max congrats on med school boii-- could you maybe explain the 80% attendance policy at UTCOM?
also @Miracle_Max congrats on med school boii-- could you maybe explain the 80% attendance policy at UTCOM?
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Also, do you retake the same classes as an M1 or do you opt out?
I have my suspicions for who @Miracle_Max might be, and we probably have met in person, but definitely not knowing who each other's usernames are. As for the classrooms, yes, MSBS students essentially take classrooms in the same rooms as medical students (as well as pharma students, nursing students, and so forth). MSBS classes are on the COMLS campus with all the other medical programs, so be ready to hear tons of chatter about medical nonsense pretty much anywhere you go.
Yes! MSBS classes are indeed recorded. Sometimes technology bugs out as it is wont to do, but for the most part you're able to go back and rewatch the lectures. As you please. I've never felt the need to with my study style, but if it fits yours then the option is certainly available! As for the attendance policy, you'll find that the *official* policy is mandatory attendance, but attendance is only explicitly taken for a few courses, and in many scenarios we wonder how they're keeping track. Do know that MSBS is essentially a year long interview, so it's in your best interest to show up consistently and professionally to make the best possible impression (especially since some professors that teach it may/may not be on the UTCOM admissions committee), but if your class is anything like mine, you'll find quickly that some of your peers are a little more abhorrent to consistent attendance.
Yes and no. From what I've heard from the MSBS graduates that are now M1s, a giant amount of the material you cover in MSBS carriers over to your M1 year, and yes, you will have to "retake" classes. But the courses you take in MSBS are similar, NOT identical, so you'll be going over much of the same information but at a more hectic pace and in greater detail with some more added on for good measure (as I understand it). Some might view essentially taking the same class twice as a bit of a pain, but I recommend looking at it like you're REALLY learning the basics of your craft. If your plan is to one day be a physician, this literally is the information you'll be using to save lives one day, so it's in your best interest to learn it as well as you possibly can.
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Thanks all! I'll field some questions, but definitely recommend you use @Sophil15 for the most up-to-date MSBS info. I'm happy to answer UTCOM stuff.
lol j/k.
Probably??? A lot of the M1-former MSBS class have gotten to know different current MSBSers pretty well. My love of all things Princess Bride is pretty well known, so probably not hard to put the pieces together.
Short answer: you don't opt out, but the courses are not the same.
Long answer: You still get many of the same lectures but you just skip the class that day and use MSBS notes. Back in the day (like 10 years ago?), when the MSBS curriculum and the med school curriculum were the same, I think you could opt out of a couple courses as an M1. However, the medical school curriculum changed a few years back, and the MSBS curriculum has gone through it's own evolution process to where it is today. MANY of the lectures we have in med school are slide-by-slide the exact same as MSBS, or many of the in-person lectures we had in MSBS are presented in Med School as on-line modules by the same professors with the same slides. However in Med school there is lots more than what was covered in MSBS. In musculoskeletal block right now, we had all the same lectures as from MSBS (many as online learning modules) but in addition we have specialty lectures on musculoskeletal disorders, and medical/surgical management of those disorders.
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Probably??? A lot of the M1-former MSBS class have gotten to know different current MSBSers pretty well. My love of all things Princess Bride is pretty well known, so probably not hard to put the pieces together.
Yeah, it's a myth. It doesn't exist. I think previous classes needed to do 80% attendance, but we do not, so probably something they got rid of prior to my class (thank god). Our lecture attendance is "expected". Probably <50 people (out of 175) go to lectures each day. I have been to class (meaning lecture) exactly 6 times since classes started in August. We have plenty of mandatory things like clinical skills checkouts, patient experiences (a patient with a rare disorder comes in and tells you about their life with a disease. It's really really cool), etc etc, but the actual meat and bones med school lectures are NOT mandatory. I chill in a coffee shop, sip my coffee, listen to lecture on 2x, and then do boards and beyond / sketchy / pathoma / troll MSBSers / First Aid / and generally make my medical school experience whatever I want it to be. I stay around 1 standard deviation above the class average so i think it's going fine for me so far.
Short answer: you don't opt out, but the courses are not the same.
Long answer: You still get many of the same lectures but you just skip the class that day and use MSBS notes. Back in the day (like 10 years ago?), when the MSBS curriculum and the med school curriculum were the same, I think you could opt out of a couple courses as an M1. However, the medical school curriculum changed a few years back, and the MSBS curriculum has gone through it's own evolution process to where it is today. MANY of the lectures we have in med school are slide-by-slide the exact same as MSBS, or many of the in-person lectures we had in MSBS are presented in Med School as on-line modules by the same professors with the same slides. However in Med school there is lots more than what was covered in MSBS. In musculoskeletal block right now, we had all the same lectures as from MSBS (many as online learning modules) but in addition we have specialty lectures on musculoskeletal disorders, and medical/surgical management of those disorders.
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@Miracle_Max did you continue research with the same PI from MSBS or did you get a new one?
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Thank you! I will definitely start looking into this. One last question, when does the semester generally start?
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Um, kinda both? So I still help out with my old lab when they need help with something. Towards the end of MSBS another lab found out about the random unique thing that I do in my lab and talked me into doing a little work for them as well, and I still help them out from time to time (just trying to get my name on pubs). Currently I am working for a surgeon writing up a bunch of retrospective analyses while chilling in Starbs and shopping them to journals, so no hard science for me at the moment.
I'm somewhat of a random case though... Most Former-MSBS-now-M1s, either are no longer doing research, or are keeping their old labs (and will be getting research stipends over the summer; and potentially longer).
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If I'm remembering correctly, should start mid/late August. You should specific dates a little after acceptance, but I think around then is pretty much when it's always been.
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Cool, thanks again!
@Sophil15 have you/your classmates started hearing back from UTCOM (if it’s time)? Any success with other med schools you’ve applied to during MSBS?
Also a logistical question, I’ve never applied to med school before so idk how this works— I am OOS (NYC). say I do MSBS and then matriculate at UTCOM the next year; I would be OOS for MSBS but in state for UTCOM right? How would I answer the are-you-instate-for-Ohio question on my secondaries? Since I wouldn’t have lived in OH for a year yet, but I will have by the time I (hopefully) matriculate to UTCOM. Does this question make sense?
Also wondering how close you guys are as a class to each other? I think there’s 30ish of you? Do you guys all live/hang out outside of school together?
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Also a logistical question, I’ve never applied to med school before so idk how this works— I am OOS (NYC). say I do MSBS and then matriculate at UTCOM the next year; I would be OOS for MSBS but in state for UTCOM right? How would I answer the are-you-instate-for-Ohio question on my secondaries? Since I wouldn’t have lived in OH for a year yet, but I will have by the time I (hopefully) matriculate to UTCOM. Does this question make sense?
Also wondering how close you guys are as a class to each other? I think there’s 30ish of you? Do you guys all live/hang out outside of school together?
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So we’re right in the middle of interviews, as far as I know everybody who made the GPA cut got their interviews so those should be wrapped up by Mid March! Some of my classmates have acceptances/interviews elsewhere as of this point, but matriculation to UT is still the top goal for pretty much everyone. Personally, I only applied to UTCOM as I felt in the long run that was the smartest decision for me, so we’ll see how well that works out this cycle!
As for OOS classification, as I understand it, once you complete your year living in Ohio during MSBS, you apply to be reclassified as in state during your first semester of M1 and you’ll have the difference refunded to you.
Regarding the MSBS class social dynamics, there’s 49 of us that started, so it’s a decently sized group, but small enough that everyone pretty much knows each other. It has the expected pros and cons of a group of young adults that are together pretty much 24/7 hahaha. So a ton of us hang out a lot, study together, different groups do different things, etc. Almost a quarter of the program lives in the same apartment complex so most social events tend to be concentrated there.
Obviously you’ll have people who don’t want to socialize with anyone, people who get bad reputations for being gunners, and your fair share of drama. But along with that we’ve made some pretty solid friendships and bonds so far, and I’m looking forward to (hopefully) studying medicine for four more years with these rascals (well, most of them
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So, I was OOS as a MSBS student. I also started my AMCAS application to UTCOM prior to moving to Toledo to start MSBS, so I was considered an OOS applicant. (Your in-state vs out-of-state status is only appliciable to Toledo for interview selection... once you secure an interview, like through MSBS, it doesn't factor into whether or not they accept you. How you demonstrated your commitment to Toledo and the community on the other hand is a different story, and should be a priority for OOS applicants IMO...)
So now as an M1, since I had been living in Ohio for 1 full year prior to starting med school, I got in-state tuition to start my M1 year (which ultimately makes MSBS + med school cheaper than 4 years of private med school). There are lots of hoops to jump through to make sure you get this in-state tuition, but so long as you aren't receiving money from your mom and dad out of state, it should work out. Also make sure you move to Toledo and start your lease prior to Aug 1st. This ensures that med school will start After you have been here for 1 full year.
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Hey Sophil, how many students would you say of the 49 met the GPA requirement and got an interview? I got accepted to the program a couple months ago and really like it but my MCAT is low. I just took it again and got below a 500. What scores do you think I should try to get in order to get into UTCOM? I am debating if I should go here or one of the direct SMP's for DO schools. Very confused.So we’re right in the middle of interviews, as far as I know everybody who made the GPA cut got their interviews so those should be wrapped up by Mid March! Some of my classmates have acceptances/interviews elsewhere as of this point, but matriculation to UT is still the top goal for pretty much everyone. Personally, I only applied to UTCOM as I felt in the long run that was the smartest decision for me, so we’ll see how well that works out this cycle!
As for OOS classification, as I understand it, once you complete your year living in Ohio during MSBS, you apply to be reclassified as in state during your first semester of M1 and you’ll have the difference refunded to you.
Regarding the MSBS class social dynamics, there’s 49 of us that started, so it’s a decently sized group, but small enough that everyone pretty much knows each other. It has the expected pros and cons of a group of young adults that are together pretty much 24/7 hahaha. So a ton of us hang out a lot, study together, different groups do different things, etc. Almost a quarter of the program lives in the same apartment complex so most social events tend to be concentrated there.
Obviously you’ll have people who don’t want to socialize with anyone, people who get bad reputations for being gunners, and your fair share of drama. But along with that we’ve made some pretty solid friendships and bonds so far, and I’m looking forward to (hopefully) studying medicine for four more years with these rascals (well, most of them
@Sophil15 would also love to know! Taking my MCAT soon and a little scared about scores..
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As far as I know, everyone still in the program has an interview. A few people didn’t return after 1st semester for a few reasons (grades, personal reasons, etc.) and I haven’t asked EVERYONE in the program, but I assume that in general pretty much everyone gets an interview that tries.
As for MCAT, it varies a little from year to year, but in general you wanna shoot above 500, and this year they told us above a 502 is super safe. The MCAT score is pretty important, historically people a little under a 500 have gotten in I’ve heard, but most likely because other factors overshadowed it. I’d highly recommend getting your MCAT in order before going to the program. You can retake it (some people have done it this year but it wasn’t fun to watch and I can assume it wasn’t fun to do)
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Hi @Sophil15 and @Miracle_Max ! Thank you for answering people's questions and being great representatives for the program!
I'm thinking of applying to the MSBS-MS program, and I'm concerned with Dr. Vazquez being the only point person for advising. I've had a not-so-great experience with my former research advisor where I was placed on the back burner, and I've really had to advocate for myself to get things done. Were there times where you've found that advising in this program was lacking?
Also, do you know how many MSBS students do clinical research instead of basic science research? I have 4 years of basic science research, and I definitely want to do clinical research if I have to do research in an SMP.
@Miracle_Max, you said somewhere that it was important to do an SMP that addressed your weaknesses, and for me, I think I can definitely gain more clinical experience. Can you describe any barriers to accessing opportunities that provide clinical exposure? (I come from a school that's located next to a teaching hospital that doesn't allow any students to shadow, and most premed volunteer programs don't provide significant exposure.)
I'm thinking of applying to the MSBS-MS program, and I'm concerned with Dr. Vazquez being the only point person for advising. I've had a not-so-great experience with my former research advisor where I was placed on the back burner, and I've really had to advocate for myself to get things done. Were there times where you've found that advising in this program was lacking?
Also, do you know how many MSBS students do clinical research instead of basic science research? I have 4 years of basic science research, and I definitely want to do clinical research if I have to do research in an SMP.
@Miracle_Max, you said somewhere that it was important to do an SMP that addressed your weaknesses, and for me, I think I can definitely gain more clinical experience. Can you describe any barriers to accessing opportunities that provide clinical exposure? (I come from a school that's located next to a teaching hospital that doesn't allow any students to shadow, and most premed volunteer programs don't provide significant exposure.)
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TBH, I only met with GV once or twice during the year. I more utilized my research PI (who is often on ADCOMS) who was very helpful for advising, as were various M1s I made friends with. You can sign up for an M1 mentor as an MSBS student, but I just ended up finding M1s with similar backgrounds to myself and asking them questions I had about what I should be doing to have a successful MSBS year.
@Sophil15 will have a better idea of what's going on this year, however my year it was about 50/50 split. You get plenty of choice over what lab you end up in, so just don't interview with basic science labs, and you will end up doing clinical.
Yeah, its definitely gotten harder to get clinical exposure. The big thing that Toledo has going for it is the community clinic that lots of MSBS students volunteer at. As far as UTCOM admissions goes, this is a pretty good thing to have on an app. If you do your research with physician PI, you can also usually finagle that into shadowing time. Some students in my class worked part-time as scribes or pharm techs during MSBS (opinions on if this is recommended will vary). The year before my year in MSBS, lots of MSBS students did volunteering through the red-cross that they counted as clinical somehow. As far as barriers go, it's kinda the same as everywhere else: not a ton of options. The MSBS program itself does not have any clinical experience portion to the program, so you just kinda have to hustle to find opportunities.
If overall your big application weakness(es) is clinical exposure/research (you have a good undergrad GPA, good MCAT, good basic science research, etc) then I guess I would have a hard time justifying doing an expensive SMP when you can instead take a year to work as a scribe, CNA, EMT, other super low-wage high hour job. Basic science research experience vs clinical research experience is not something that is going to keep you out of med school (at research institutions like UTCOM basic science research experience seems to be favored slightly over clinical research experience since most of the members of ADCOMS are research PhDs), so again, I would have a hard time justifying doing an expensive SMP just for clinical exposure and clinical research.
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Thanks for your input! I have a 3.3 BCPM undergrad GPA and 3.4 cumulative undergrad GPA and a 3.9 master's GPA (did a master's bc I thought I might go into research). Both my undergrad GPA and clinical experiences aren't stellar (with clinical experiences I think being the major weakness), which is why I'm torn between working/gaining clinical experience and doing an SMP. Idk, I have a lot to think through. Thank you again!
My new fear is that no one at the office will be able to read/evaluate my application when my 3/14 MCAT score comes out in a month bc of the coronavirus
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My new fear is that no one at the office will be able to read/evaluate my application when my 3/14 MCAT score comes out in a month bc of the coronavirus
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I wouldn’t worry I submitted in May last year and was still accepted.
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Yes. I just changed some sentences around to include why I want to attend their program.
Whew it's been a while since I last checked this. Like @Miracle_Max mentioned, I've only had to meet with GV twice this year, and they weren't even very urgent meetings. Any advice you need to get you can easily get from your peers, M1 mentors, Anita, etc so I wouldn't have to worry about that. Personally I've had some abysmal experiences with my undergrad advisor so I had similar worries coming into the MSBS program, but so far I've been more than satisfied!
I also am doing clinical research instead of basic science, and a lot of my peers are doing the same! My research involves figuring out ways to apply A.I. learning to diagnose schizophrenia, and I'm happy to say I haven't gone near a single pipette all year. There's a multitude of options that are made available to you, so as long as you're on top of things you should be more than fine.
Yes; my application isn’t complete yet so take that as you will (just looking to send scores)
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Nope! No fee for my year either.
@Sophil15 how do you go to lab during the virus? Or is that requirement waived?
Have ur classes been moved online seamlessly or do you have any complaints?
@Miracle_Max would love to know the same for you as you’re in Med school
Do you know if adcoms for MSBS are still taking applications even if there’s a virus?
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Have ur classes been moved online seamlessly or do you have any complaints?
@Miracle_Max would love to know the same for you as you’re in Med school
Do you know if adcoms for MSBS are still taking applications even if there’s a virus?
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All our lectures are delivered online... so since I don't go to class, this changes nothing for me as I would just watch lectures online the next day anyways after I go through relevant Boards&Beyond/Pathoma/Sketchy videos. I am still active in my research lab from MSBS, and am writing up some retrospective analyses for the lab (gotta git dem pubs!). Other than that, I'm drinking a lot of wine and watching a ton of Netflix. No idea about what MSBS admissions is up to right now unfortunately.
I applied this month and they sent an email a few days ago saying they were still going through apps, just remotely.
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Pretty much everybody's lab requirement has been waived for the semester. My particular project doesn't need to take place in a lab since I do my "research" pretty much from my laptop so I can still work on my project (which I don't mind since I find it interesting).
And yeah, all our classes have been moved online. Unlike my esteemed senior @Miracle_Max, I go to class almost religiously, so the switch to online has been a little jarring. However, life rarely gives you your ideal and desired conditions, so just taking this as an opportunity to grow and develop and all those wonderful buzzwords that mature people talk about. It's a learning process for everyone, so just taking it a day at a time.
Hi again @Sophil15 I had another question for you— I think (?) you guys don’t find out till after graduation if you got into UTCOM (correct me if I am wrong), but are there other schools your cohort has gotten into that you know of?
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You're correct! There's a decent amount of my classmates that already have acceptances and are waiting on their UTCOM acceptance to make their final choice (for a lot of them, UTCOM is their first choice and for good reason). I'm not exactly sure which other schools as there have been a lot of going ons here and there and it's hard for me to keep up, but yes people have been getting acceptances!
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For my class last year, we all found out about UTCOM in June-ish. Many of us had outside acceptances as well. Somewhere in this long thread I listed all the places i could think of that came to mind that my class and previous classes got into. I know quite a few of the current MSBS class has gotten into various MD and DO schools already.
The problem with not hearing about UTCOM until June is that if you get accepted somewhere else that starts early (like some schools start early July) you may want to move down there like in mid June and get established, but still waiting to hear from UTCOM. Also some schools have early "commit" dates where you indicate through AMCAS that you are committing to whatever school and will withdraw all apps from all other schools. This was a problem for a couple people in my class last year, but it all worked out.
I'll add here, a recent development in the MSBS program is that they're pushing the adcoms to have all our final decisions released by the end of May. I'll let y'all know if that actually happens this year, but I imagine that will be the goal moving forward.
@Sophil15 @Miracle_Max Do you guys know how it works for people who are concurrently applying to other med schools during the MSBS? Does Toledo send progress reports or do students just send schools their grades after the Fall semester is done?
Also are there any good gyms/fitness facilities in the area?
Thanks so much for answering all of our questions.
Also are there any good gyms/fitness facilities in the area?
Thanks so much for answering all of our questions.
