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mine was really fast, like 2.5 weeks (and an acceptance -- stoked). i interviewed on 10/8 in houston.
 
anybody else here interviewing 1/9? i know there's 5 other people that are gonna be there with me. so i guess the chances are about 5/1000. worth a shot.

note: i am not a genius. 1000 was arbitrarily chosen.
-mota
 
theunderdog said:
so anyone know what the turnaround time is after you interview at tulane???
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yo check the wall of fame, the turnaround time seems to be ~ 1 week. real quick. best of luck.
-mota
 
does anyone know if they're still giving out interviews?
 
DaMota said:
yo check the wall of fame, the turnaround time seems to be ~ 1 week. real quick. best of luck.
-mota
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yo man, don't worry.

you're interviewing early january. there will probably be about 20-30 spots left.

at my first interview, the guy told me about 7000-8000 applied this year. about 10% will evetnually be interviewed. and out of those 700-800 interviewed, very few are rejected.

in fact, the people that have interviews earlier (like you, mota), you have a very high chance of getting in. its the people after mid-jan who are interviewing that should worry. bc those ppl will be interviewing for a spot on the waitlist.

my student interviewer told me that between october and presently, 1 in 5 students does not get into tulane....
 
CoffeeCat said:
Okay, so I'm a Tulane supporter, but I'm kind of worried about these cuts...anyone else with me? Plus, research is nice, but the NIH decides the funding, not Tulane...and doesn't less faculty=less research?
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I am sure part of the way they decide who to cut and who not to was by an individuals NIH funding (or funding in general) . . . . there is a great disparity between certain faculty, one prof I worked for in the med school brought in 38 mil a year while another only 200k . . . and I'm sure many bring in less. Also, as I was working as a CRC when Katrina hit at Tulane (unable to return due to lack of housing . . . grrrr) I know that at least in the department of Surgery clinical research was only slightly disturbed and back on track so there will still be plenty of clinical research if that is more your style than benchwork.

As a Newcomb Alum (04) I am really sad about its dissolution. I chose to go to tulane specificially because of the Newcomb experience. . . I can't imagine that there won't be some sort of outcry from the alumni, . . maybe they could pledge to re-open newcomb when they were fiscally back on there feet. . . I dunno, I never realized how attached I was to Newcomb until now.
 
MEDICAL SCHOOL TO REFOCUS ON RESEARCH, EDUCATION
December 9, 2005


Linda Wilson, chair of the health sciences committee for the Tulane Board of Administrators, talks with an interviewer after the announcement of a wide-ranging renewal plan for the university.
In a move to respond to a healthcare environment changed by Hurricane Katrina, Tulane University is restructuring both the focus and scope of its medical school. The Tulane Board of Administrators has announced that the Tulane School of Medicine will eliminate 180 faculty positions, downsize its clinical operations and refocus its research areas.

“The fundamental fact is we don’t have as many hospitals and patients in the city of New Orleans,” said Martin D. Payson, who sat on the board’s medical subcommittee. “You have a large medical teaching operation that has to be brought back to the size of the constituency.”

Linda Wilson, chair of the board’s health sciences committee, said that in terms of research, the medical school will emphasize areas of strength: gene therapy, organ transplantation, cancer, infectious disease and cardiovascular diseases. “These are areas that are important to our population and where we are first class,” she said.

Payson and Wilson said that Tulane will recruit volunteer community physicians to supplement full-time clinical work and will reach out to other institutions to form partnerships to aid in developing residency programs and clinical operations. “Tulane is saying that somebody has to make the first move, so we are making it with partnerships to the extent that they are ready to step up to the plate,” said Payson. Wilson added that HCA, Tulane’s partner in Tulane University Hospital and Clinic, was consulted in developing the current plan.

The medical school, which has been functioning at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston since the hurricane, is expected to return to its location in downtown New Orleans for the fall 2006 semester.
 
This was posted by a student in response to the cuts:

I don't think this layoff is going to affect anyone's third year that much. Tulane had two group practice plans, the TU Medical Group and the Family Practice Plan. This means any doctor that worked at all in Tulane hospital or any of the community sites was technically "Tulane Medical faculty," even if they didn't have med students rotating with them or teach lectures. After the storm these docs scattered to the four winds, and some aren't coming back. In order to keep paying them, HCA (the Bill Frist family-owned for-profit that owns Tulane hospital) had any revenue they were making anywhere coming back to Tulane. Now they're planning the next step to get started up again in NOLA. This downsizing is a natural thing--a lot of these people aren't coming back.

For those of you that haven't been through third year, you worked with only a fraction of the "Tulane faculty" that the plan is referring to. At the most, now you might have an extra student or two on teams since there might be, say, one less surgery service. This is also temporary I'm sure (thinking long term); as the city regains population, services will be added.

The chances anyone will be in Texas next year for third year cores are slim. I think there will definitely be enough services to educate all the third years. Ochsner's fine and was severely underutilized before the storm--they had 1 or 2 people doing surgery there, about 3 doing peds, and it was a huge hospital. I don't know what the numbers are like now, but don't forget Ochsner serves an area that was not flooded and is still very populated (Metairie and the rich folks in the Garden District). Ob/Gyn didn't rotate through there, so that's a new possibility. Pineville could take more for surgery and ob/gyn, and medicine could start rotating through there. Family sites are all over the Gulf Coast and will probably increase. The VA is opening outpatient services in April, University is not condemned and will be reopening in the spring, Tulane-Lakeside has fully functional medicine, ob/gyn, transplant, heme/onc, peds, and surgery services as of today. Downtown Tulane already has outpatient medicine clinics open, they're trying to open the ER in the next few months. Everyone's still talking about where the Level 1 trauma center will be, but it's going to happen, it's just a question of Charity vs. a new hospital vs. a big military dome.

New Orleans is still a city of 75,000 and growing. By July 2006 I'm certain it will be substantially larger. How big were some of the places you interviewed at that had a med school? I mean Penn State supports a med school in the middle of cow farms and chocolate factories in Hershey. For better or worse, HCA is driven by profit, and if they see they can make money by serving the medical needs of a growing city, they'll do it.

So don't worry too much.

D
 
awesome, awesome post coffee cat

where did you find that one? tulane forums?

g00se
 
psipsina said:
I am sure part of the way they decide who to cut and who not to was by an individuals NIH funding (or funding in general) . . . . there is a great disparity between certain faculty, one prof I worked for in the med school brought in 38 mil a year while another only 200k . . . and I'm sure many bring in less. .
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This is pure speculation and incorrect. First of all, Tulane Med raked in $48 million total in NIH funding in 2004 (http://grants.nih.gov/grants/award/rank/medttl04.htm), so the chance that one guy brought in $38 million of that is slim to none (unless the $$$ came from a private donor, which is even less likely).

Second, to fire tenured-faculty b/c they didn't make the university enough money is something out of ER. This only happens if faculty members can't acquire enough money to sustain their research and their labs. Running labs is more expensive than running clinical trials. It doesn't make sense to cut the clinical trials because they are cheaper to operate and Tulane gets a smaller allotment.

Third, as others have alluded to, the cuts are probably going to be made on clinical/teaching faculty and not research faculty. Research faculty bring in money so cutting people who are crucial to rebuilding Tulane also doesn't make any sense.
 
theunderdog said:
yo man, don't worry.

you're interviewing early january. there will probably be about 20-30 spots left.

at my first interview, the guy told me about 7000-8000 applied this year. about 10% will evetnually be interviewed. and out of those 700-800 interviewed, very few are rejected.

in fact, the people that have interviews earlier (like you, mota), you have a very high chance of getting in. its the people after mid-jan who are interviewing that should worry. bc those ppl will be interviewing for a spot on the waitlist.

my student interviewer told me that between october and presently, 1 in 5 students does not get into tulane....
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thanks UD- i'm keepin my fingers crossed. it clicked for me a few days ago that Tulane is my #1. always was but i forgot that for a while.
-mota
 
Update from Dean Ian Taylor: December 9, 2005

Update from Dean Ian Taylor
The University has been proactive in developing a plan in response to Hurricane Katrina. A consultant firm with an international reputation was hired to work with the Health Sciences Center Leadership to develop a vision and plan for the future. This team was headed by Dr. David Chin, a Harvard M.D. and a Stanford MBA. In addition, several Presidents of Universities who oversee world renowned medical centers acted as consultants.

President Cowen has announced publicly that he wants our School to be in the upper echelons of Medical Schools. To achieve this goal we have had to define what is mission critical for our School so that we can develop a firm base on which to grow and expand in the future. A clear indication of the President's commitment to this goal is the fact that the University is guaranteeing the total salary of mission critical faculty through June 30, 2007. This represents almost two years of post-Katrina support which will ensure the quality of our faculty and our educational programs. This will also ensure our educational mission continues to be central to everything we do. The educational experience for our students and residents this year has been of the highest quality thanks to the dedication of the Tulane faculty and the generosity of the South Texas Alliance. We are all committed to continuing to provide the highest quality education when our students and residents return to New Orleans for the next academic year.

Ian L. Taylor, M.D., Ph.D.
 
does anybody have any info on rebuilding the levies? i keep hearing over and over that next year's hurricane season is gonna be worse than this year's and though it is improbable that new orleans will get hit again, those levies need to be in place
-mota
 
DaMota said:
does anybody have any info on rebuilding the levies? i keep hearing over and over that next year's hurricane season is gonna be worse than this year's and though it is improbable that new orleans will get hit again, those levies need to be in place
-mota
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mota--

here's a link to a story about how the levies were not actually built up to the snuff they were supposed to be (i.e. NOT the cat 3 level of protection they were supposed to provide) : http://www.nola.com/search/index.ssf?/base/library-91/1134028092231650.xml?nola

as far as for next year, i haven't heard any specifics, but i think they are planning to rebuild them to at least genuine cat 3 protection, but everyone in NO wants more than that (ie 4 or 5)...

if anyone knows something more specific, holler.

edit: here's the beef, imo

While it's easy to second-guess after a disaster, outside engineers say the depth of the sheet pile foundation appears too shallow. A survey by Team Louisiana, the state-sponsored forensics group, found -- and the corps confirmed last week -- that the sheet pile depth was about 10 feet below sea level in the breached areas at both canals, much shallower than the 18.5 foot below-sea-level depth of the canals and 7 feet shorter than the corps thought.
 
DaMota said:
does anybody have any info on rebuilding the levies? i keep hearing over and over that next year's hurricane season is gonna be worse than this year's and though it is improbable that new orleans will get hit again, those levies need to be in place
-mota
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Well, I'm guessing they won't be looking for help from Tulane's Civil Engineering department 😡

Oldie
 
Goose-d said:
Update from Dean Ian Taylor: December 9, 2005

Update from Dean Ian Taylor
The University has been proactive in developing a plan in response to Hurricane Katrina. A consultant firm with an international reputation was hired to work with the Health Sciences Center Leadership to develop a vision and plan for the future. This team was headed by Dr. David Chin, a Harvard M.D. and a Stanford MBA. In addition, several Presidents of Universities who oversee world renowned medical centers acted as consultants.

President Cowen has announced publicly that he wants our School to be in the upper echelons of Medical Schools. To achieve this goal we have had to define what is mission critical for our School so that we can develop a firm base on which to grow and expand in the future. A clear indication of the President's commitment to this goal is the fact that the University is guaranteeing the total salary of mission critical faculty through June 30, 2007. This represents almost two years of post-Katrina support which will ensure the quality of our faculty and our educational programs. This will also ensure our educational mission continues to be central to everything we do. The educational experience for our students and residents this year has been of the highest quality thanks to the dedication of the Tulane faculty and the generosity of the South Texas Alliance. We are all committed to continuing to provide the highest quality education when our students and residents return to New Orleans for the next academic year.

Ian L. Taylor, M.D., Ph.D.
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Goose, you're a wealth of information. Much obliged.
 
Just wanted to say thanks for all the information and that it appears from the postings and the class of 2010 signatures that there are a handful of excited soon to be med students in the big easy...I for one am looking forward to it - despite some of the uncertainty, I think it sounds very promising and that the class of 2010 will be a great and close one!
 
anybody else catch this in the new york times this weekend?
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/11/opinion/11sun1.html?ex=1134968400&en=febf58baae52191b&ei=5070

parts of it kinda pissed me off but i agree with the talk of needing to rebuild the levee system stat.

btw, i've read in the interview feedback that they've been recently asking "what are you going to do to help rebuild new orleans." i've got some ideas flowing but it's kind of a tough question considering we'll be cracking down studying most of the time. i dont want to be insincere and make false promises, but i do think i'll be able to contribute a positive attitude etc. to new orleans, you feel me? what do you guys think.

btw, i also want to point out that we've got some SDN all stars on this thread that will hopefully make up a good portion of the 2006 class. rock and roll.
-mota
 
Mota -

I think you are taking that in the right direction. Despite the situation, you are still a med student and to say things like I plan to reconstruct the levee would be an obvious lie...that said, the attitude and perhap your help in any club that serves NO - or even your participation in the med curriculum - assuming that they continue the POM course. Attitude is key and it seems to me that you have a good one. Good luck and keep us posted!
 
TheMightyAngus said:
This is pure speculation and incorrect. First of all, Tulane Med raked in $48 million total in NIH funding in 2004 (http://grants.nih.gov/grants/award/rank/medttl04.htm), so the chance that one guy brought in $38 million of that is slim to none (unless the $$$ came from a private donor, which is even less likely).

Second, to fire tenured-faculty b/c they didn't make the university enough money is something out of ER. This only happens if faculty members can't acquire enough money to sustain their research and their labs. Running labs is more expensive than running clinical trials. It doesn't make sense to cut the clinical trials because they are cheaper to operate and Tulane gets a smaller allotment.

Third, as others have alluded to, the cuts are probably going to be made on clinical/teaching faculty and not research faculty. Research faculty bring in money so cutting people who are crucial to rebuilding Tulane also doesn't make any sense.
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Actually, if you're research faculty and you lack funding, then you'll get cut even in good weather. While the Tulane cuts were 3/4 clinical faculty, I'm sure there were some in that number that higher-ups were letting stay on and now could no longer justify. And it's hard to run a clinical trial when most of your population base is displaced with no return on the immediate horizon.
 
Olddodger said:
Well, I'm guessing they won't be looking for help from Tulane's Civil Engineering department 😡

Oldie
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Yeah, isn't it ironic that "being part of the rebuilding and renewal of New Orleans" means gutting the engineering school in light of one of the biggest engineering failures in modern history. 😕
So disappointing...

(btw: they're "levees", not "levies" 🙂 )
 
DaMota said:
anybody else catch this in the new york times this weekend?
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/11/opinion/11sun1.html?ex=1134968400&en=febf58baae52191b&ei=5070

parts of it kinda pissed me off but i agree with the talk of needing to rebuild the levee system stat.

btw, i've read in the interview feedback that they've been recently asking "what are you going to do to help rebuild new orleans." i've got some ideas flowing but it's kind of a tough question considering we'll be cracking down studying most of the time. i dont want to be insincere and make false promises, but i do think i'll be able to contribute a positive attitude etc. to new orleans, you feel me? what do you guys think.

btw, i also want to point out that we've got some SDN all stars on this thread that will hopefully make up a good portion of the 2006 class. rock and roll.
-mota
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Mota, when is your interview again? Also believe it or not, you will have a little bit of free time...the system seems to work like this : a few weeks of moderate studying/work with time to do other stuff, when exams come around you will really have to knuckle down, then the cycle starts over again. I think if you express sincere interest in wanting to come to New Orleans you will have a foot in the door.
 
tulane06 said:
Mota, when is your interview again? Also believe it or not, you will have a little bit of free time...the system seems to work like this : a few weeks of moderate studying/work with time to do other stuff, when exams come around you will really have to knuckle down, then the cycle starts over again. I think if you express sincere interest in wanting to come to New Orleans you will have a foot in the door.
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its january 9th. the first day back from winter break. they told the underdog who had his interview last week that they would have the class filled by "the middle of january" so i'm hoping that means they'll have a few spots left for those first few people that interview in january. does that sound legit?
-mota
 
Sounds legit to me, also being there on the first interview day available in New Orleans may make a good impression on your interviewers. I would say your chances are looking very good.
 
there's a nasty rumor floating around that Dean of TUSOM Ian Taylor resigned today b/c of disagreements with Uni. President Scott Cowen. i heard this from a T3 friend of mine.
then again, my folks (down in NOLA right now) say that there are a million rumors circulating about TUSOM and LSU-NO. either way, i hope this won't affect people's decisions to go to Tulane.
b/c of the shortage of physicians in the area, the med students will apparently get amazing experience b/c they'll be thrown right into the mix of things at a very early start. once FEMA screws over everyone in hotels and people in shelters are forced to come back, the patient population is going to skyrocket again. guess who will face the brunt of this resurgent population?!?!? anyways, irrespective of the shakup in the top brass, i'm still excited to get started at TU.
 
This is posted on the TUSOM forum website (by an unofficial source, but all the students are talking about about it, so it sounds legit).

Dear Faculty and Staff of the School of Medicine,

I am writing to inform you that Dr. Ian Taylor has resigned his position
as dean of the School of Medicine, effective immediately. I have asked
Dr. Paul Whelton, senior vice president for health sciences, to also
assume the role of dean for the foreseeable future.

On behalf of the entire Tulane University community, I want to thank Ian
for his four-plus years of service as dean. During that time period, he
made many contributions to the school and university, including
continued LCME accreditation, expansion of the faculty, and greater
emphasis on research and the clinical enterprise. We are appreciative
of his efforts.

Hurricane Katrina has clearly taken a toll on all of us, but with the
announcement of our Renewal Plan on Thursday we have a clear pathway to
a bright future for both the School of Medicine and the university. I
will continue to do everything I can to make sure we confidently and
resolutely address any forthcoming challenges as I remain committed to
making sure that our future is secure in all ways.

I hope you will all join me in supporting Paul and his senior team
during this transition. Ever since Hurricane Katrina they have done a
marvelous job of addressing and resolving every critical issue they have
faced in a very difficult and complex environment. I am confident that
same focus and determination will guide them in the future. I stand
shoulder to shoulder with them to ensure the future success and vitality
of the School of Medicine.

Scott Cowen
 
Basically, what I can gather is there was a 'disagreement' b/t Cowen and Taylor over the medschool faculty cuts... rumor also has it that Taylor was planning to leave b4 katrina ever hit, so he got out...

I don't see this as a big deal as long as this type of thing doesn't continue to happen... Tulane needs strong and consistent leadership right now and in the future... I agree with you mota (as well as the nytimes) that the levees need to come asap.
 
Goose-d said:
Basically, what I can gather is there was a 'disagreement' b/t Cowen and Taylor over the medschool faculty cuts... rumor also has it that Taylor was planning to leave b4 katrina ever hit, so he got out...
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That rumor's been floating around since I got to Tulane Med. So for three of the 4 years he's been here, there have been rumors of his imminent departure. I'd take that with a grain of salt. I don't know the whole story, but the proximity of his resignation to the announcement of the faculty cuts is certainly raising a lot of eyebrows around here.

I've met Ian Taylor, and he is a great guy. The administrative team he assembled was one of the best groups I've seen, and I hate to see it dismantled in any way.
 
clusterfcuk said:
At least ~20 of the first-year students are not returning for the spring semester, and some/most of them will likely be joining the class of 2010 at some point, either in the fall or spring. a few superstars have already left and may not be returning at all.
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just because ian taylor left......?

man...
 
theunderdog said:
just because ian taylor left......?

man...
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of course i don't know for sure, but i don't think so. maybe they want to wait until they're back in NO or things are somewhat "normalized," if there is such a thing...
 
clusterfcuk said:
At least ~20 of the first-year students are not returning for the spring semester, and some/most of them will likely be joining the class of 2010 at some point, either in the fall or spring. a few superstars have already left and may not be returning at all.
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so where are these "superstars" going? have other med schools been giving them spots as transfer students?
regardless, i would still like to interview at tulane. sounds like amazing clinical opportunities will come up.
 
bubbleyum said:
so where are these "superstars" going? have other med schools been giving them spots as transfer students?
regardless, i would still like to interview at tulane. sounds like amazing clinical opportunities will come up.
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I must say that I was thinking the EXACT same thing of what you just mentioned....It does sound like good clinical opportunites would open up now for med students as future residents there and even joining as faculty clinicians when they start re-hiring for those positions again. Despite the fact that it may take some time, still if you're not in any rush, then this is the good time to rise up whatever opportunities you've been waiting for. In addition, hearing about faculty cuts and Dean Taylor stepping down has put questions in my mind about being a part of the Class of 2010, but the more I think of it, the more I think it will be worth it. So, I guess I'll see whoever joins next year's class in the fall!
Take care.
 
TUgrl04 said:
I must say that I was thinking the EXACT same thing of what you just mentioned....It does sound like good clinical opportunites would open up now for med students as future residents there and even joining as faculty clinicians when they start re-hiring for those positions again. Despite the fact that it may take some time, still if you're not in any rush, then this is the good time to rise up whatever opportunities you've been waiting for. In addition, hearing about faculty cuts and Dean Taylor stepping down has put questions in my mind about being a part of the Class of 2010, but the more I think of it, the more I think it will be worth it. So, I guess I'll see whoever joins next year's class in the fall!
Take care.
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if only they would give me an interview.... :luck:
 
TUgrl04 said:
I must say that I was thinking the EXACT same thing of what you just mentioned....It does sound like good clinical opportunites would open up now for med students as future residents there and even joining as faculty clinicians when they start re-hiring for those positions again. Despite the fact that it may take some time, still if you're not in any rush, then this is the good time to rise up whatever opportunities you've been waiting for. In addition, hearing about faculty cuts and Dean Taylor stepping down has put questions in my mind about being a part of the Class of 2010, but the more I think of it, the more I think it will be worth it. So, I guess I'll see whoever joins next year's class in the fall!
Take care.
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I'll be there 😀

Bubbleyum:

Good luck, keep in touch with the admissions office
 
Are they still giving interviews? I've been having some trouble getting in contact with them. Do they have an email address?
 
tulane06 said:
The admissions office is back in New Orleans - this is their website:

http://www.som.tulane.edu/admissions/

You can call the office at 504-988-5187
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u guys thinnk they would mail out decisions before returning to tulane?

i interview there in houston last week....

how long did it take for you guys to hear a decision? considering that i live in the northeast?
 
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